Comments by "Arthur Mosel" (@arthurmosel808) on "Black Hammer’s Colorado Commune" video.

During the summer this might survive, but the results of the first winter will be very interesting. DONNER party anyone? Racists in their own Marxist utopia!
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More like the Donner Party!!
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Left out the wolves and bears.
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Not all will be dead read what the Donner Party camp looked like when the relief party got there. New material for horror stories.
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@stegwise i didn't mention toxic plants or other dangers they could blunder into as well. Also, since there was no mention of sanitation, intestinal, issues and diseases will be a major issue. I also wonder about medical care; as I sat, these people are returning to the Dark Ages.
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Talking about weather at altitude, when I was younger my par re nuts took my brother and sister on a camping trip through South Dakota and Montana going to Yellowstone. We need up in Red Lodge Montana on the 4th of July, but had to stay there because the pass into Yellowstone was snowed shut the night before. That night was so cold that water was freezing, and we all ended up sleeping in the vehicle rather than the tent because it was so cold. All of us jammed together in sleeping bags made it just bare able. At 10,000 feet I could just imagine.
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@flukedogwalker3016 We had a frost problem in the morning and no one wanted out of the sleeping bags. My father and I had to start a firre before anyone else moved. We ended up in a cabin Yellowstone that night. We wished that we had brought winter clothing though. My point is that this was supposedly summer, and we weren't at 10,000 feet. No one was going to grow much with those conditions. If this group is for real they will get a Darwin Award for improving the gene pool by the probable results of their choices.
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@flukedogwalker3016 I went fishing there, but I didn't catch anything. I sort lost interest when a bear came sniffing into the place that I was fishing. He followed me for a bit; he changed his mind when I past two other fishers. I guess the smell from their creels was more interesting. By the way, my trip was in t he 60's as well.
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Delusional people shouldn't be encouraged in their delusions.
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Also questionable sanitary, good breeding grounds for respiratory diseases. There are other building materials there. This like saying lets return to preindustrial society. Where our tribe raids the next to stay alive.
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@ElGreco15 We are talking about different things. If they want to leave the US, fine if they c a n find somewhere that will take them and their beliefs. My comment was about this community, located where it will be, and the fact Government money and effort will be needed to save them from their own insanity.
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@lee Of doom They need to buy it elsewhere. Succession failed in 1861 to 1865, anarchy isn't a solution it is a major problem.
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I didn't realize that they were prospectors, re. A. Packer.
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Sarcasm I would hope.
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The true of socialism, a return to the primitive. Look at the living conditions of serfs and slaves, and then consider these homes.
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Yes, but extremely uncomfortable and potentially unhealthy. As a temporary shelter maybe, but with other building materials available no long term solution.
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@LesActive If they own the land, they own the trees on it. Unless the land is already barren, there would have been plenty of trees available. The terrain is rocky, so stone is available. So, I repeat that these buildings, especially if they lack sewage, are potentially unhealthy. They have more in common with the hovels that serf and slaves lived in the Dark and Early Middle Ages.
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@Trollificusv2 The picture that was displayed showed more than scrub oak and Pinon pine; but wood is still available on lower slopes; but how they would log and move it is a question. I didn't think of the manpower issue; but, besides technicians for the more modern infrastructure needs, how many of them know how to use an ax or other hand tools. The Inca and their neighbors in South America were the only tribal people that I know of that lived anywhere near that altitude. They used stone structures, planted hardy grain on terraced fields, and in general physically adapted to those heights. At 10,000 feet you start to need oxygen in an aircraft (definitely at night), so altitude sickness will be another factor for which they hadn't planned. I know of no North American tribes that lived that high up, at least on a permanent or semi-permanent basis; so any Native American people joining them have no better knowledge than the others. It would be good if any survivors told other fools that returning to the past "substantable life style is a crock, but they will rather say that "the man won't let them do it where it would work". Actually I sincerely hope this is a scam of some sort, because I don't like the idea of anyone dying due buying into a foolish idea.
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@LesActive Sorry, but all forces of earth buildings have issues. These are issues that I don't desire in a permanent shelter. From mud brick, Adobe, and sod
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To name a few. There safety is heavily dependent on rain fall, seismic activity to borrowing animal. As a temporary shelter earthen buildings might be a decent alternative; but not as a more permanent one. Read about the effects of seismic activity on Adobe and mud brick dwellings for example.
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@alkestos Yes, I understand your position, but hunting out of season and gathering wild plants could keep them going until winter; however, winter will be the end.
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