Comments by "Arthur Mosel" (@arthurmosel808) on "Indiana man charged with buying gun used to shoot 2 Chicago cops, killing one" video.

He admitted to making a false official statement. He knowingly bought it for someone who was ineligible to own a firearm. Charging the buyer as an accessory would be fair to me. He committed multiple felonies. He was not a legitimate buyer.
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@TheWorldsOkayestUSMarine i don't share all your comments, but the main point is that we all agree the straw buyer deserves severe punishment. He knew better.
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@noneshere Wrong under Fedderal law when you purchase a firearm the form has c you certify that you are the intended purchaser. This man had been asked to purchase the weapon by an underage convicted felon. So, he lied on the form and what is called a s trap buyer. More importantly, he then disposed of the weapon across state lines a felony in itself, an additional felony was providing it to a person that he knew was a previously convicted felon. The Feds have changed him, unfortunately, maximum sentence is only five years. The latest update is both men (brothers) in the car have been charged. The murder charge is against the older brother (21 years old)along with attempted murder charges, it sounds like he shot at another officer but missed, as well as charges relating to possessing and using the firearm by a convicted felon. The younger brother (19) was charged with firearms related charges related to his convicted felon status. He is also under 21 and his possession for that reason is also illegal, but the convicted felon aspect probably trumped that. The woman was uncharged, as no crime was attributed to her. So selling your used car analogy doesn't hold water. Nothing under existing law requires you to check anything out about the purchaser; Federal and state laws do have ru l es.
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@lesterpettus9094 Illinois abolished the death penalty. The straw buyer is at least an accessory before the fact. So, even if there was a death penalty, he probably won't qualify; however put him in prison for a lot longer than what is authorized for a straw buyer.
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@NikoBellaKhouf2 The Founders didn't add that since the way justice was at the time a convicted felon was unlikely to be able to reoffend. A suspected murderer wouldn't be out on bail to harm again, and a convicted one couldn't do it from the grave. Punishment for theft and rape were also severe. So no need for the obvious.
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As to the Federal form being too draconian, we have to disagree. As to which brother (both convicted felons) it was bought for appears to be the younger brother, but it seems the older brother shot it. Subject to clarification as details emerge.
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I need to clarify, to me acknowledge neither had new charges pending, only convictions. You should be aware because of release without bond, they are running out of ankle tracking bracelets in Chicago, per the Police Chief. They currently have hundreds of violent felons on the street w I th these bracelets, and others without them. I gather from the ch ef's comments this includes more than 100 charged with murder. So, the situation is very concerning.
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@troywyte6550 No one person alone, I agree; however, leaders set the tone and leaders who excuse misconduct actually encourage it; and the Dems are in full bore encouragement mode in many cities. As elections come up they may say something else but look at the records.
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@fishmonger6879 Many things are involved. Like most complex problems that come into being over long periods there is no single date or event. Elements include increasing self-centeredness and feelings of entitlement, this can result in frustration when events are adverse. The increasing number of people existing without a moral compass, on the positive side the forms of Christianity prevalent in the US traditionally were guilt based and worked against murderous behavior; however some forms allow confession to clear the person of guilt, and this is found in some areas (not just Catholic). Feelings of governmental unfairness or racial hatred play a part in some cases. Other cultural values or lack of them, some religions are shame based, meaning do what you want if not caught. Encouragement from leaders either overtly or unintentionally. This along with uneven law enforcement, an example that is real is theman who recently beheaded a woman in Minnesota; multiple convictions, illegally here and left on the street (a receipe for disaster). So pick and chose. Pieces of all are involved. No one alone can explain everything, but there is no unified field theory that works here better than physics.
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@jeaniemarczniec7755 While I agree that not all Dems or even all Dem government officials back the insane portion of the party they have done little to put them back in their niche. Prosecutors who refuse to take action until something too bad to ignore occurs are Dems, whether in Chicago, St. Louis, San Francisco, etc. are all Dems. Mayors and city council people yelling defund or reimagine policing were almost entirely Dems. Stste govrrnments that have abolished bonds and permitted even murderers to be released immediately pending trial with depressing number reoffending before they are tried for the first offense are again.almost all controlled by Dems. I will agree Repubs are as guilty as Dems at not rearresting and placing people in jail for vio.ating probations and paroles. All of these things have led to where we are today; but as I said why haven't they been stopped in locations where Repubs have no chance of winning?
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@davekoenig9935 The buyer is charged with Federal, not state charges, so five years in a Federal facility and a Federal criminal conviction. As to filing off seril numbers, they can be brought back if you work at it. They are stamped and affect more than just the surface. As to your disposal scheme, it is possible, but unlike you I am glad most of these fools don't do it.
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@NikoBellaKhouf2 Where and when was your comment true? Few people owned a riding horse in the populated areas in the 1780s and 90s. Wide spread horse use came later.
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@NikoBellaKhouf2 When, I doubt if horses have been issued for years, let alone a pistol provided. Perhaps during the Seminole Wars.
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@NikoBellaKhouf2 I agree that strictly enforcing firearms sales rules won't stop all firearms crimes but it helps.
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@NikoBellaKhouf2 We live in today's world. On the frontiers, lynching wasn't just for minorities, it was the law in effect. Rustling, rape and murder also existed and were just as likely to meet the same fate. Check out what happened to the James and Youngers on their last raid, many towns people were Civil War vets and were more than willing to deal permanently with such. In other words, not everyone followed rules or respected each other. People who stepped out of line were dealt with permanently where certain offenses occurred. Once regular law was established the ad hoc enforcement ceased because people trusted the law. Prohibition began to end that. Consensus about that wasn't there, so wink and nod became a rule. As I said in another post, where we are today was a slow slide.
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@Armed-Forever what is the gang crime rate? Answer that.
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@jameschanin876 Two wrongs do not make a right. I agree that Hunter has committed enough crimes that he should celebrate his hundredth birthday still behind bars. His gun offense at least didn't cause a death; but only by good luck.
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@josephjames259 The last stats that I saw are fairly old, 10 years plus; however out of 100,000 plus straw buyers only around 1,000 were charged; and no conviction numbers give. I hope you are right, because one chance in a 100 of being charged would make this a low risk crime with high risk result potential.
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@jameschanin876 As I said only good luck kept it from being worse. The actual improper disposal wasn't by Hunter, so we can't get him for that.
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@josephjames259 i hope that you are right, but I am worried that he will not be held at least partially responsible for the death and what I am afraid will be the permanent injury or death of the other officer who has a bullet in his brain.
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@drizztdourden5291 Nope? A one word answer that means nothing. Nope, nothing will be done? Nope, nothing should be done?
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Up date, he was shot in the eye, so definite permanent injury and loss of career. It wasn't clear if a bullet is still in there.
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@drizztdourden5291 May you learn to appreciate what it means to suffer such an event. Hopefully without permanent loss.
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@NikoBellaKhouf2 Yes, a stolen weapon bought on the street illegally is more common; the vast majority of legal firearms owners follow the law.
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@drizztdourden5291 I have tried too answer this one twice and both have been disappeared. I guess someone doesn't like facts. Please look at the FBI stats and realize that you may have come to believe a false belief. I hope this at least doesn't trigger some fool.
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@picolascage8123 Your screen name says it all. The reason for the stop hasn't been released that I have seen or heard.
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@NikoBellaKhouf2 By the way, I am happy to see you believe you can read my mind about all my beliefs. Intonation claim that about anyone I met by typing a few lines, I guess your unique.
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@drizztdourden5291 Countless, please check the FBI data base. More innocents (bystanders or family members of the targets) have been killed in Chicago this year to date than truly innocent Blacks (men or women) in the last four or five years. If you count the gang bangers who died because they were shot by other bangers, it might be as high as 10 years of truly innocent. The odds are that this post will disappear like another that spoils the leftist narrative that you have been fed.
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@drizztdourden5291 I am conservative also, and I do support the police. If you want to complain about some of the nonsense that legislatures pass; and they must enforce; we would probably find more agreement. A good example was the death of the guy selling single cigarettes in NYC. The law was passed by the legislature, supposedly to reduce smoking; however, if you look at the letter put out that should have been part of this incident it complained about lost tax revenue and called for increased enforcement. By the way, the same law was a boost the cigarette smuggling industry. The mayor than wrote to the police chief who had the bosses get on the patrolman and women. Now, add to this that Mr. Gardner had several prior arrests and convictions for this and tried to walk away from the officer, and the receipe for disaster. We can argue if a chokehold was used or different but similar method was initiated but slipped into a chokehold. The fact remains that he had resisted arrest and was still alive for sometime after the event. The arguments ignore how many officers were kneeling on him to hold him down. His family got millions; interestingly, his daughter died of the same type of heart failure, but she was neither choked or held down by the police. Media facts and all facts frequently tell very different stories. While I don't agree with stoning the left, media should be held liable for the damages done due to bad reporting. Those are both damages to the individual defamed and; and any property damage that insues.
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Sorry Eric Garner not Gardner. By the way it was soon to be former Governor Como who wrote the letter that led to Garner's death. Strange avlityle like sending the elderly COVID patients to nursing home and then forgetting that helped cause the deaths there.
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@davekoenig9935 Subutban in this case; but we are getting tourist crime from Joliet and Chicago. Just not a high rate yet. The worst was at a store right off of I80 and on Harlem Avenue a few years ago, still unsolved.
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@Armed-Forever We, like medicine should target disease not symptoms, violence is the symptom, the disease is the pathogen that causes it. Gangs are the largest pathogen in our society closely followed by those who excuse or use them.
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