Comments by "False sects like shia are judeo ibn saba made" (@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543) on "What is Shia Islam? - Twelverism" video.
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there are 3 main waves of deception in shiasm i know of.
- ibn saba the neo pauline preacher said Ali is a god and pushed civil wars like paul did, then Hasan united them.
Ali burned the she'a who said he's god too!
2nd wave when the shias who did taqiyah and weren't burned for shirk by Ali invited Hoosain, shias worship hossain who married a princess from magian areas as a front to continue magian royal worship!
3rd wave, lies on rest of ahlul bait in particularly Jafer Sadiq who said Abu Bakr gave birth 2 me twice, had a daughter named Aisha, until the 12 imam who matches the dajjal.
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If she'a followed Quran they would be Sunni, Quran 25 :74 mentioned make us husbands imama - and Umar married Ali's daughter so imama in Quran is Sunni Caliphas, game over!!! Umar who defeated the magian empire is Quran's imama and should be the she'a "imama"!
but shiasm isn't about Quran, its about taqiyah for their magian empire who (along with byzantines) aided the riddah wars beaten by Abu Bakr justifying Umar topping the magians (& byzantines) themselves!
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This is symbolized Abu Bakr and Umar's Conquest of Magians and Byzantines from 2 buckets of water unified in one conquered by the umma in the hadith acc. to ibn Hajr & Shafaa:
Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whilst I was standing by a well, drawing water from it, Abu Bakr and ‘Umar came. Abu Bakr took the bucket and drew one or two buckets, but there was some weakness in his drawing. May Allah forgive him. Then ‘Umar bin Al-Khattaab came and the bucket turned into a very large one in his hands. I had never seen such a mighty person as he in doing such hard work till all the people drank to their satisfaction and watered their camels that knelt down there.’” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3676).
Quran exposes rafidi shias as disbelievers per Quran 48 :29
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Abu Ja’far, the 5th Shia Imam said
Abdullah Ibn Saba used to claim being a prophet and claimed that The commander of believers (i.e. Ali) is God. Allah is Higher than such claim. This news reached to The commander of believers (i.e. Ali), so he called him and questioned him. But he repeated his claims and said:
"You are Him (i.e. God), and it has been revealed to me that you are God and I am a prophet." So the commander of believers (i.e. Ali) said: "How dare you! Satan has made a mockery of you. Repent for what you said. May your mother weep at your death! Quit [your claim]." But he refused, so Ali imprisoned him and asked him three times to repent, but he didn’t. Thus he burnt him (i.e. his corpse after killing him[24] ) with fire and said: "Satan had taken him into his whim, he used to come to him and to induce these (thoughts) in him”.
— Rijal al-Khashshi, V.1, P.323
Some knowledgeable people have stated that Abdullah bin Saba was a J*w who had accepted Islam and showed great devotion for Ali (peace be upon him). As a J*w, he used to exaggerate the personality of Joshua, the son of Nun, the Wasi of Moses. After becoming a Muslim, he began to say about the personality of Ali such this(peace be upon him) after the demise of Rasulullah (peace be upon him and his progeny), and he was the first person who manifested the saying of obligation of believing in the Imamate of Ali, and completely dissociated himself from his enemies and he openly opposed them and denounced them as infidels. So, it is in this light that those there were against the Shias said: The origins of Shi'ism and Rafdh are taken from J*d*ism.
— Rijal al-Kashi, page.71
history of she'a lies and betrayals to Islam like that of Hossain... -
when she'as stole the kaba sharif, aided crusaders, aided monguls, safawids betrayed Uthmanis, cia backing iran in 79 to be israelis hidden ally until today etc...
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@History_Matters Qur'an 2 : 25 - ... Every time they will be provided with a fruit therefrom, they will say: "This is what we were provided with before," and they shall have therein Azwajun Mutahharatun (purified mates) and they will abide therein forever.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir : Ibn `Abbas said, "Nothing in Paradise resembles anything in the life of this world, except in name.''
Quran 16 : 60 - For those who believe not in the Hereafter is an evil description, and for Allah is the highest description. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.
[Allah's description is highest above tashbih, & tied to Akira (Ruya?), see Quran 75 :22)]
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Nu`aym bin Hammad Al-Khuza'i, the teacher of Imam Al-Bukhari, who said, "Whoever likens Allah with His creation, will have committed Kufr. Whoever denies what Allah has described Himself with, will have committed Kufr.
lmaam Ahmad (d. 241] said, “These ahaadeeth should he left as they are ... ‘We affirm them and we do not make any similitude for them. This is what has been agreed upon by the scholars.” - 136 Reported by Ibn al-Jawzee in Manaaqib lmaam Ahmad, pp. 155-156.
Imaam at-Tirmidhee (d. 279H) said, “It has been stated by more than one person from the People of Knowledge about such ahaadeeth, that there is no tashbeeh (resemblance) to the Attributes of Allaah, and our Lord, the Blessed and Most High, descends to the lowest heaven every night. So they say, ‘Affirm these narrations, have eernaan (faith) in them, do not deny them, nor ask how.’
However, the Jahmiyyah oppose these narrations and say, ‘This is tashbeeh!’ However, Allaah the Most High, has mentioned in various places in His Book, the Attribute of al-Yad (Hand), as-Sam’ (Hearing), and al-Basr (Seeing), but the Jahmiyyah make ta’weel of these aayaat, explaining them in a way other than how they are explained by the People of Knowledge. They (the Jahmiyyah) say, ‘Indeed, Allaah did not create Aadam with His own Hand,’ they say that Hand means the Power of Allaah.” 138 - Sunan at-Tirmidhee, 3/24
Abul-Hasan al-Ash’aree (d. 324H) said, “If it is said, ‘Why do you deny that His saying: “Do they not see that We have created for them what Our Own Hands have created.”
And His saying:
“Whom I have created with My Own (Two) Hands.” 165 are rnajaaz (metaphorical)?’
To him it is said, ‘The ruling concerning the Speech of Allah, the Mighty and Majestic, is that it is taken upon its dhaahir (apparent) and haqeeqah (real) meaning. Nothing is removed from its dhaahir (apparent) meaning to majaaz (a metaphorical) one, except with a proof ...
Likewise, the saying of Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic:
His saying: “Whom I have created with My Own (Two) Hands.” 167
It is obligatory to affirm two Hands for Allaah, the Most High, in its haqeeqah (real) meaning, not with the meaning of ni’matayn (two bounties of Allaah).”
- Al-Ibaanah ‘an Usoolid-Diyaanah, p. 133.
The ascription of this book to Abul-Hasan al-Ash’aree, and that it was his ‘final book concerning‘aqeedah, has been testified to by a number of Scholars, from them, al- Haafidh Ibn ‘Asaakir in Tabyeenul – Kadhabul - Muftaree, p. 152, al- Bayhaqee in Al-I’tiqaad, p. 31, Imaam adh-Dhahabee in Al-Uluww,
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there are 3 main waves of deception in shiasm i know of.
- ibn saba the neo pauline preacher said Ali is a god and pushed civil wars like paul did, then Hasan united them.
Ali burned the she'a who said he's god too!
2nd wave when the shias who did taqiyah and weren't burned for shirk by Ali invited Hoosain, shias worship hossain who married a princess from magian areas as a front to continue magian royal worship!
3rd wave, lies on rest of ahlul bait in particularly Jafer Sadiq who said Abu Bakr gave birth 2 me twice, had a daughter named Aisha, until the 12 imam who matches the dajjal.
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If she'a followed Quran they would be Sunni, Quran 25 :74 mentioned make us husbands imama - and Umar married Ali's daughter so imama in Quran is Sunni Caliphas, game over!!! Umar who defeated the magian empire is Quran's imama and should be the she'a "imama"!
but shiasm isn't about Quran, its about taqiyah for their magian empire who (along with byzantines) aided the riddah wars beaten by Abu Bakr justifying Umar topping the magians (& byzantines) themselves!
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This is symbolized Abu Bakr and Umar's Conquest of Magians and Byzantines from 2 buckets of water unified in one conquered by the umma in the hadith acc. to ibn Hajr & Shafaa:
Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whilst I was standing by a well, drawing water from it, Abu Bakr and ‘Umar came. Abu Bakr took the bucket and drew one or two buckets, but there was some weakness in his drawing. May Allah forgive him. Then ‘Umar bin Al-Khattaab came and the bucket turned into a very large one in his hands. I had never seen such a mighty person as he in doing such hard work till all the people drank to their satisfaction and watered their camels that knelt down there.’” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3676).
Quran exposes rafidi shias as disbelievers per Quran 48 :29
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Abu Ja’far, the 5th Shia Imam said:
Abdullah Ibn Saba used to claim being a prophet and claimed that The commander of believers (i.e. Ali) is God. Allah is Higher than such claim. This news reached to The commander of believers (i.e. Ali), so he called him and questioned him. But he repeated his claims and said:
"You are Him (i.e. God), and it has been revealed to me that you are God and I am a prophet." So the commander of believers (i.e. Ali) said: "How dare you! Satan has made a mockery of you. Repent for what you said. May your mother weep at your death! Quit [your claim]." But he refused, so Ali imprisoned him and asked him three times to repent, but he didn’t. Thus he burnt him (i.e. his corpse after killing him[24] ) with fire and said: "Satan had taken him into his whim, he used to come to him and to induce these (thoughts) in him”.
— Rijal al-Khashshi, V.1, P.323
Some knowledgeable people have stated that Abdullah bin Saba was a J*w who had accepted Islam and showed great devotion for Ali (peace be upon him). As a J*w, he used to exaggerate the personality of Joshua, the son of Nun, the Wasi of Moses. After becoming a Muslim, he began to say about the personality of Ali such this(peace be upon him) after the demise of Rasulullah (peace be upon him and his progeny), and he was the first person who manifested the saying of obligation of believing in the Imamate of Ali, and completely dissociated himself from his enemies and he openly opposed them and denounced them as infidels. So, it is in this light that those there were against the Shias said: The origins of Shi'ism and Rafdh are taken from J*d*ism.
— Rijal al-Kashi, page.71
history of she'a lies and betrayals to Islam like that of Hossain... -
when she'as stole the kaba sharif, aided crusaders, aided monguls, safawids betrayed Uthmanis, cia backing iran in 79 to be israelis hidden ally until today etc...
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6 :00 - No shi'a do say Quran is incomplete, they just do taqiyah...
Quran 5 :3 - . This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you,...
This was revealed at Hajj, i think before Gadir Khum when there were much more people so Ali being leader doesn't logically make sense, but yea shi'a founder ibn saba made Ali a god ruler like figure against Islam but was from the zoroasters.
plus in Sunni & shi'a sources Ali said Abu Bakr is the leader, and even he told his son, Muhammad Hanafiyya, he was the best.
5:20 - interesting chart on shi'a sect images
8 :30 Jafer Saadiq said Abu Bakr gave birth to me twice and even had a daughter named Aisha. shows they respected the Sunni Caliphas.
As for shi'a mehdi hiding in a cellar, it matches the dujjaal.
Muslims believe in a Sunni Mahdi.
the other issue is they say the imams had lordly power like knowing the unseen or controlling the atoms and the like.
15 :45 - yes shi'a like Tusi did take in Mutazila.
17 : 00 - there were schools who studied and contextualized the hadith but the 4 mathhab imams even said if anyone misses a hadith go with the hadith, so we are always learning.
19 :50 - shi'a reject most sahaba so almost never have a chain.
shia follow kafi, Muduru Faqi, and 2 by sh. Tusi.
AShura, karballa they do see as more important then hajj at times too.
22 :30 - Zahir and Batin...
they say its Tawil - Tawil is interpreting Quran and Sunnah with other parts of it, to contradict it, is Tahrif or distortion.
seems like they just made up stuff which violates Islam being complete, hence bid'a.
27 :00 - shia says imams know a secret name of God to get powers... thats out there.
28 :00 - yea makes no sense, no offense but built on spreading brutally.
30 :00 - sufis became shia and forced convert and did oppose Uthmanis.
33 :00 - their source of fiqh is different... and so are their books
reason for Taqiya is ironic considering you just mentioned the safavids.
38 :00 - ibn Arabi was adapted to shi'aism irfan sufism?
like haydar tumuli.
Khomeini, sent ibn Arabi to ghobachov of ussr?
43 :00 - esoteric ideas just seems like a story to make ups tuff.
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