Comments by "Nick" (@NicodemusT) on "The REAL Reason Cyberpunk 2077's Software FAILED!" video.

Finally. Someone covering this truthfully. The CDPR fanboys/stans are Trump-level ridicuous right now.
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What’s it like to be a fanboy and ignore literally all the evidence in the world?
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@hektik2200 unfortunately we’ve actually seen some CDPR code and it’s college level. There is almost no memory management, it was removed from the PS store, I could go on and on about the crap AI, amongst the billion other things. There’s also literally video evidence of employees saying the exact opposite that you are claiming. What would they know - they only worked there, right?
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@hektik2200 If we're not going to blame the developers, can I blame the fans, then? Because other than the ridiculousness of taking zero responsibility for the code written, the only other thing would be the gamers who demand ridiculous expectations, and do not let the developers re-realize their current situation and react to it. That I can agree with - but I think laying blame on project management (also essentially non-execs) and execs is lazy and easy. I've never worked at a company where the line between execs and production was as thick as the fanboys are trying to claim it is. I don't buy that - it's not only unrealistic, it doesn't work. If you don't have direct lines of regular communication across the whole company, you can't get anything done.
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@hektik2200 I didn’t call it college quality, it was the opinion of those who saw the code. Honestly, I have a bunch of games and Witcher 3 is easily the buggiest game out of them all. This isn’t a mistake or a weird coincidence. I don’t know what you’re exactly defending here - the software is not good, not even people who work there are trying to say that - so I don’t get your angle.
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@hektik2200 creatives actually define the scope. Business does not understand technological restraints. You know that, though. I’ve never worked at a company where an exec walked into a meeting with a game idea - it’s production that presents their vision to execs. Look, you don’t get to blame execs and call them dummies “that don’t get it”, but also try to present them as Neil deGrasse Tyson of industry when it’s convenient. Either they are idiots who blindly boss production around, or they are idea wielding geeks. You don’t get to have both. How you don’t know that, with the experience you’re trying to convey - it’s strange.
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@hektik2200 speaking of, haven’t you? So engineers don’t deserve the mob but creatives do? Why don’t you admit bias here and save yourself from denial. “Random string of text” is a dead give away of “blanket reasoning “
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You’re crazy, dude. This thing was removed from the PlayStation store - a first for any title. I have 34 switch games - the Witcher 3 is the only one with basic new-programmer level bugs. This didn’t start with Cyberpunk. They have always been poor developers. Several ex employees have posted about this - so you can write a denial essay, but it isn’t accurate in the slightest. Not only that - we’ve seen their code!The code was amateur. Memory management is nonexistent. The fact that their save files are GIGABYTES shows they do not manage resources at all. Treatment of employees was already outted as bs by many in the gaming industry, including ex employees have said that employees are treated poorly unless they have status. Anyone with any background on this topic is going to see that you’re an apologist. Lying to customers, blocking them from seeing accurate reporting, and preventing customers from seeing the product before buying IS NOT customer friendly. Trying to pretend it is is pretty ridiculous.
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@krinkrin5982 You want me to find their code for you (as proof?) but then go on and on about your inside knowledge of the company. Either things are proprietary or not - ex employees are literally not legally allowed to talk about their experience there, so - can you provide me your proof? My guess is no - because there is about 20 or so YouTube videos from ex- employees who are claiming literally the exact opposite that you are. And, I've worked at enough software companies to know that high turnover is not something you get to paint with a rose-coloured brush. High turnover is literally your metric for telling if a place is crappy to work at or not.
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Blaming management is an easy cop-out. Forgetting who hired the management - and completely forgetting how a company works, you know that execs don't claim to know anything about software dev, right? They take dept. heads feedback, and make decisions based on that. Dept. heads are usually lead designers, lead developers, or at the very least some variation of a director of X - so how are you getting this firm hard line between execs and production? Because I've NEVER worked at a company where that was a thing. This hollywood picture you have in your head, where the execs sit on a slightly higher floor looking over the minions is not at all how it works. Please stop portraying our industry like that.
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We’ve actually seen CDPR code, though, and it was lambasted by developers as poor, college level code. We’re not going to get into saying all developers are wrong because you have feelings, right? Because there’s a LOT of evidence working against your view.
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@stugeh I guess - but why should I give CDPR a pass when none of the developers at EA ever get a pass? The problem with this conversation is that it is steeped in personal bias. You’re all peeved off when it’s CDPR, but silent for literally any other time. #FreeMelee was a “shit on everyone at Nintendo fest” and I don’t remember there being legions of unpaid d-riders pushing a false narrative about greedy people. You want them to be seen as an indie developer (and they are not by definition), AND this well oiled ship, with a hard divided line between management and coders - and I’m sorry, but that line is a made up thing in your head. At some point this little indie developer asked for the public offering, when they were just a few people. They don’t get kid gloves treatment when they are a publicly traded company. I’m sorry, but no one is buying this perspective.
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@stugeh Okay that I can agree with.
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@stugeh you as well! ✌🏻
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Imagine buying a Tesla and then it doesn’t work, but because you’re a ridiculous fanboy you are cool with parking it for 3 months while patches come out.
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@guxershmeg you don’t understand how software is made.
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@guxershmeg they build on existing OS - they don’t build a new one every year
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