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This is a depressing take, David. Historically this is how people move mountains. Canadians got their healthcare by it being passed during a time of financial and economical hardship. Pressuring AOC to force the vote is objectively the only way your country has a chance to get healthcare. She's released several videos in recent months decrying the sorts of people who are now excusing her. I don't really understand this perspective. It's really depressing to see this really defeatist angle. Don't tell me about "the real world." My real world as a Canadian directly reflects a strong liberal stride that you are deliberately sidestepping for almost no reason. AOC's career is not more important than millions of people with poor health.
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Wow. For a minute I thought I was at PragerU. All of this anti-M4A talk from « progressives ».
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After a number of bogus claims, their ability to claim videos should be throttled. Otherwise it's abuse of power.
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Don Lemon sucks, but Elon Musk shows that he sucks and can't take any criticism. At least Lemon will listen to critique without melting into a puddle of piss.
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Krystal Ball 4 life. You don’t get to get our vote without earning it.
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No, it’s just aggravating because we can and do have some disagreements but see why someone could have those disagreements. This is different. It’s a complete head fake. Up until Jimmy Dore mentioned M4A, literally every progressive was for getting it done. When AOC posted a video a month ago saying she was for this literal thing, everyone applauded her - now we’re actually asking her to do it and David doesn’t « get it »? Come on now. That don’t track.
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@New_Blue_2 This is pure elitism with a poverty mindset. And again, you cannot resist circling back to your feelings about Jimmy Dore. He literally has nothing to do with this - it’s just the only thing you have. If it was a bad idea you could just say that full stop. But you can’t because you have AOC quotes and Jimmy Dore’s anger to keep you busy. This is just the most ridiculous nonsensical conversation. You’re essentially saying that because Jimmy Dore doesn’t “know politics”, as if it’s the stock exchange and not a right of every citizen - then he should shut up/ is irrelevant because the election is decided by elitists. If you’re not for M4ALL during the pandemic, that’s your privilege- not politics. How is it Canada and every other country can do the math on health care without spiraling into a conversation about affordability. You have the most basic geography of the other G8 counties, the most money, the least taxes - and yet you still can’t get it together on this. You’re depressing. Also, when your country stays out of other country’s business - then maybe you can cheekily suggest everyone shut up about yours. At this point, your country not having proper health care is costing all of us money.
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@UconnzFynestZ it must suck to see her quoted directly saying that! Unfortunately, Canada did get universal healthcare in almost the same situation. There’s no excuse here. It’s historically proven that this is the time to strike. I’m tired of these lazy excuses.
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Force the vote
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Canada got universal healthcare during a depression, and it was widely supported. There is literally no better time than now to push for this. This is David’s laziest take and it shows.
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https://youtu.be/LkH2r-sNjQs
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@MindoftheNorthStar she was for M4A. You’re trying to blur the facts to make a point. Unfortunately we all have the internet, so that’s not going to work.
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Imagine being so devoted to a YouTuber that you call into a show to correct pronunciation.
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@New Blue 2 Please delete this. It's a wavering stream of excuses and nonsense. It was impossible in Canada, and every other country - until it wasn't. This American exceptionalism is your own undoing. It's your religion. The fact is - a floor vote puts things on paper, and then you actually know who to vote out - so you can put this shit in motion. Christ. How is this so hard to fathom? Everything is impossible for the richest country in the world. It's not impossible. It's embarrassing. Against all receipts, examples of every kind - your response is not dumb, it's embarrassing.
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This is your first Ben Affleck moment, David.
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@MindoftheNorthStar Your version of history is...odd. It doesn’t track at all with reality. I know Jimmy was a die hard Bernie and Tulsi supporter. I don’t really understand what you don’t like about tulsi? Let me guess - she works for Russia? Is it the gray streak of hair that throws you off? Or is it that she’s anti war because she actually was in a war - unlike the people who vote pro-war and never go to an actual war?
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@Silverfang447 « baffle them with bullshit » is the theme of this thread. WE ALL HAVE GOOGLE idiots. We can see that these things are not true.
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@Silverfang447 you’re calling them reactionary? You’re rich. You should look into the psychological term ´projection’. On your profile it says that you post 1k+ comments on Pakman’s channel. And you have the nerve to call Doré my idol? Ha ha ha ha. Dude David is married. If you’re reading this thread, check out dude’s profile - it’s just a hot mess of Pakman defending. I’ve literally never posted over 1k comments on anything. I would worry that I didn’t have a life.
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@Silverfang447 i’m worried you’ll spend another 1000 comments on this thread, because you clearly are addicted to this channel in a not healthy way. You really don’t have a leg to stand on when your profile is literally littered with d-riding David. If I were you, I’d be embarrassed to fight anyone for fear that they will uncover your cache of obsessive commenting. I mean look at your comments. Did David say your name in as stream or something? So embarrassing.
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@UC2BlCGrgE6masM9U4LYO4Vg 1004 comments
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@MindoftheNorthStar Really? How is this for lazy, citations (noting your not citing anything): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Tulsi_Gabbard#Health_care Gabbard supports a universal health care plan called "Single Payer Plus".[63][64][65][66][67][68] In 2017, she co-sponsored the Expanded & Improved Medicare For All Act[69][70] to create a national health insurance program that covers uninsured as well as underinsured people;[71] allows for private insurance supplemental to but not duplicative of benefits provided under the program; and paid for in part by raising taxes on the wealthy and taxing financial transactions.[48] Gabbard called the Republican-sponsored American Health Care Act of 2017 "really a handout to insurance and pharmaceutical companies that will further exacerbate the burden on American families. With citations - not just rambling comments on a YouTube page. Waiting for your reply on how all of these citations are wrong, while you cite nothing. Again.
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Kobayashie I dunno. Cause he’s a person and not a robot? Do you have Google, or do you like drama? Because I know you can google Tulsi and trans for yourself to get that answer. That whole Tucker Carlson “I’m just asking questions” routine is old.
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Tozias Silverfang Actually the most intelligent people I know do not delve into name calling. Can’t think of a single intellectual I know that does that. Weird. I like David - but all this interaction has shown me is that David’s audience is pretty cancerous. I checked your other subs - over 1k comments specifically for Pakman. You are obsessed and it shows to any conscious human being. You think you’re doing good here, but as someone who has watched Pakman for over 5 years, you’re just alienating people and it’s embarrassing and sad.
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@Murderbot2000 Literally no one brought up Jimmy Dore. Bringing up Jimmy Dore shows that you're emotional and not logical. Stop taking things personally and fight for your fellow humans. #TeamHuman #ForceTheVote
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I'm surprised Sam Seder has time for this, since he's spending a lot of time making sure his country doesn't have medicare for all - mostly because Jimmy Dore has a better YouTube channel. #M4ALL #ForceTheVote #ItsNotAboutYourFeelingsAboutJimmyDore
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Ha ha ha ha. Priceless 😂 You wouldn’t know what an algorithm was if it bit you in the ass.
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@Silverfang447 if me being embrassed for you is screaming then you need to self reflect buddy.
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@New_Blue_2 I dunno if you were around for the primaries - or familiar with your brand of “democracy”, but Bernie didn’t have a chance because delegates (how is this a democracy, exactly?) really decide what’s best for you, even when the votes are strong. In this case, Bernie didn’t win, but 67% of Americans want M4ALL. You’ll cite polling data when it meets your needs - so how about the polling data of those who want M4ALL? Secondly, the primaries didn’t happen during coronavirus. People are allowed to pivot based on the lay of the land. Polls have dramatically flipped in favour for M4ALL, even if you don’t like Jimmy Dore. It’s still true.
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A country who was founded on a rebellion is worried that AOC might lose her job if she fights for something. How pathetic.
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@New_Blue_2 ahem https://youtu.be/Slyfw8DiCKs
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@New_Blue_2 Seriously read your word salad. Spend that time fighting for change instead of finding excuses. If your government can’t respond to an epidemic with universal healthcare- there’s no point in your country. This looks worse on you than I think you realize. Countries with way less GDP are doing this and not coming up with 7000 paragraphs on why it can’t be done.
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@New_Blue_2 oh by the way - AOC is forcing à floor vote on $2000 stimpack - a Trump idea. That’s how wrong you are about everything - that you have to face the fact that that happened. https://youtu.be/I2cC2YAfynY
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@New_Blue_2 just call yourself a neocon so we can go to bed?
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@New_Blue_2 dude stop. You’re just putting words in my mouth now - classic sign of an argument losing it’s steam.
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New Blue 2 I don’t like trump at all. Knowing that you think that allowed me to ignore the rest of your comment, as everything is steeped in bs.
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New Blue 2 https://youtu.be/SHzqvxJYhmk yea, all of us real progressives were played, while you neocons pretended to care. I got it. Can you let Dore go? Honestly, it isn’t a great look. Look around the room - no one is talking about Dore except you. This is about medical for all - and perhaps you trying to deny people Medicare for all because Dore is smarter than you are? I dunno the exact reason - but I think you’ve shown your real reason for being here and it’s entirely selfish. Maybe you’re pissed because you’ve been trying to be a grifter and you feel Dore bested you? Sorry bro
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Dude get off cyberpunk and get some research done. Damn. You’re losing your audience bro
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@J He already did a segment on Jimmy Dore and force the vote last week and he went into this like he didn’t get it. I’m not exactly the only one who noticed this - if you bother to read other comments.
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Canada got healthcare during the depression. Honestly, what is your bar for realism? Because existing receipts don’t seem to do it for you people.
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You nailed it
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P White stop. Imagine being her parents and reading your garbage. Think about individuals and try not to make it about your political goals. Disrespectful. No one here would do the reverse - so have some tact.
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cough vaush cough
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@Avenger222 idealizing dropping bombs on Israel and acting like a champion for women while gas lighting them is pretty far left nowadays.
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@umbreon4369 you like watching someone who mentally and verbally abuses their partner ✌🏻
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@Avenger222 thanks for not addressing anything. I’ll be sure to check my Overton. Really quality commentary.
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Honestly, seeing David pretend that m4a #ForceTheVote isn’t a thing is beyond weird. If you’re a progressive outlet, it’s in the top 3 things going on right now. How it almost never comes up is suspect.
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@ProgramKing I’m coming back to this comment later with citations as to why you’re wrong. I knew David ‘s fans aren’t big on the concept of « burden of proof ». Edit: noticing your other subscriptions makes me think you don’t care about proof.
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@ProgramKing There are 14 members who can vote easily. Basically any progressive voice in the house. You’re not about facts at all. Also, I’m not so worried about the different outlets you watch so much as who you watch - as they make you look rather immoral, to be honest. Steven Crowder hasn’t been a Canadian since he was 5, but I hear he’s still going on about how Canadian health care is bad. Who better to know than a 5 year old, right? Yeah - you’re a real fact finder.
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@ProgramKing I literally live in Canada right now. Any idiot can go to a Walmart with a camera and a line up and claim all Walmarts have lines. Doesn’t make it a fact. Forcing politicians to the will of the people is how democracy works, else how is anything done? Also, there’s literally thousands of videos on YouTube of people lining up outside of walk-in clinics in the US. So based on you and Steven Crowders flawless logic, that must mean the whole US medical system is bogus and not worth keeping. And since when is a walk-in clinic « wait times at my doctor office »?Walk in clinics have wait times for the same reason that fast food restaurants have lines. Your reasoning is basic. Steven crowder is your Michael Moore. Moore’s version of Canada was utopian, Crowder’s is dystopian. Both are dumb points of view that scale to the audience and not reality. The conclusion that makes the most sense is to ask what Canadians want, and when polled, we deny private options every single time. That tells you how bad we have it - that when given the option to have private care we never go for it. However, when your country is polled, universal Medicare sits at 57-80% (depending on poll). I find it hilarious that your country is one of the least free countries in the world. Your people have no say in anything. Falling for Steven Crowder’s take on reality shows you literally have no grasp on reality. Your subscriptions are all grifters.
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You could have used your platform to push #ForceTheVote - so fellow Americans might not be stranded with medical bills. You chose this instead.
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He means the angerbots Vaush and Jimmy Dore.
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Given that this channel is now a right-centrist channel, probs.
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Chris Ray Gun confirms that Sedar is a Sam Harris hater. Triple checked sources.
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@Silverfang447 are you seriously posting this in every thread? And you want to look like someone who isn’t unhinged, right? You’re like a Dennis Prager Stan.
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@Silverfang447 copy and paste more PragerU talking points. We love them.
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Pasan Hiker then you will be responsible for the next 3 times. It has to stop now. Not in another 4, 8 or 12 years.
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@Silverfang447 keep posting your PragerU points buddy. We’re not falling for it. Not once did I name anyone. You can’t keep Jimmy’s name out of your mouth. You’re obsessed with him.
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@Silverfang447 1000 comments.
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@Silverfang447 It's typical for a Prager person to not care about emotions, so that's not too surprising. 1005.
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Kobayashie He vote Bernie before. Said many times he gave up on Bernie’s approach - which is felt but even his organizers - so Dore isn’t exactly alone on that feeling. He’s also anti-war, which its now clear that no one in this thread is anti war, since any one who says they like an anti war candidate is branded as a crazy, or in this case “angry.” Speaking of trans rights - when trans people are angry we don’t tell them to shut up. As someone who believes in equality in conversation, you need to start self reflecting. Nothing progressive about “certain rules for certain people”
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How’s that doing the same thing forever working for you? https://youtu.be/SHzqvxJYhmk
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@MindoftheNorthStar haha personal attacks. Nice. A Wikipedia page? What a weak argument. Are you deliberately ignoring the citations? She did run on it. Read some time. It will clear this all up for you. And if that doesn’t work for you, there’s a podcast she did with joe Rogan and he straight up asked her and she straight up said yes. Putting things in caps doesn’t make you less wrong. Countries with universal medical and private health insurance options: Canada Australia Singapore Germany Switzerland Norway Sweden Britain and the entire United Kingdom et al What’s wrong with you?
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@MindoftheNorthStar In the same comment you managed to both say I am too immature for politics, AND call me like 4 names in one sentence. And you don’t see it. It’s really heart breaking.
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@MindoftheNorthStar yeah, I’m the angry one spitting out vile, hate. Self reflection is not your strongest feature.
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@MindoftheNorthStar You’re ignoring videos of her saying it in interviews. That’s a Trump move.
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@joobeib1 Did he? I dunno. Because when it comes to making a claim against anyone, why is it so hard for you righteous do-gooders to find a damn citation. JUST ONCE. Please. Didn't David Pakman say that black people deserve to die? And didn't "proto facist statement to make me feel smart but not actually have a point" blah blah blah? I dunno. But until you actually cite something, no one has to believe you. You seem to be a Dore hater, so that at least tells me you watch his videos LESS than I do, and I've never heard him say ANY of that. Citations or STFU. How's that "do the same thing for 5 decades working for you? I'll take Dore over feckless, do nothing liberals who claim to care but find every reason not to.
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@Murderbot2000 Jimmy’s name is not in the title.
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@Murderbot2000 I think it’s about giving Americans health care. I think you can chew gum and walk at the same time. You can hate Jimmy and support the movement. Being in love with Jimmy is not a requirement in this, unless you have an agenda.
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@Murderbot2000 ya you simply cannot resist going back to Jimmy. You’ve lost the plot here, buddy.
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@Murderbot2000 How is « staying on topic and not indulging in your personal gripes about a nightclub YouTube comedian » gaslighting exactly?
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@Murderbot2000 yeah, you don’t seem unhinged at all.
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@Murderbot2000 does it hurt you that a dank nightclub (failed) comedian from Chicago lapped every single fauxgressive media outlet? I think that’s what it is. I can see why someone might not like Jimmy Dore’s approach (although I do think it actually makes a difference whether you can admit it or not), but I can’t get how you will let that get in the way of making your country infinitely better. Like, I hate Stephen Crowder as much as you can hate a « failed comedian », but if he had a medical for all vidéo up on his channel, I couldn’t see myself over there being a relentless dick about it. I think the fact that you’d give up free heart surgery if you ever needed it - just to make sure every one knows Jimmy Dore is bad, etc, is an extreme show of bad faith.
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@Murderbot2000 He literally is just asking (as well as thousands of others) for her to do what she said in the video she put on her own Twitter. You’re bringing up trump audio - great - he’s a fraud - but AOC isn’t much better when it comes to defying what is said in their own video. It’s pretty clear cut. You can go on and on about how this is dumb (again, I disagree since there’s plenty of examples to pull from, like the fact that John Baeoner literally quit because of the tea party pressuring him). Pressuring works - I agree with AOC (prior to her recent flip flop). This cause is literally showing her her own video. And if it is a dumb move to force a floor vote then isn’t she a dummy for saying it before? Pick your perspective. I’m certain if AOC spearheaded this you’d have zero problem with it and that to me is the pure definition of bias. Up until this month I liked AOC way more than Jimmy Dore because she was saying what he is saying now. I don’t care who said it. I’m not like you - I don’t just flip because my idol says flip. If Jimmy Dore said he was against M4A, I’d be as antagonist as you are right now.
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@Murderbot2000 I don’t understand how you can accuse someone of a purity test when you’re literally doing that this whole thread to Jimmy Dore. I know, I know. America is so exceptional. Hey did you hear about that time Canadians tried to her health care? The doctors went on strike, and it was pushed by a minority party that had NEVER been in power. Each country who has single payer has a story. Yours isn’t any different. I think you love AOC beyond logic shown to you. She basically (what other word could you use?) lied to everyone. She did have time to be on the cover of every magazine though. You’re not being objective here.
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How does Secret Service work behind jail?
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All of those 90s Gene Hackman/Morgan Freeman movies become reality.
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In Canada we get $2,000/month until September. We’re a really small economy with no where near the GDP. How can your country not afford stimulus?
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https://youtu.be/I2cC2YAfynY
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@wallacewallaby5782 watch more of his content and not Vaush clips and you’ll not have this opinion.
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