Comments by "" (@random6809) on "The Mirror" channel.

  1. How does two men carry fishing gear near a river make them "suspicious"? Of course they are going to be wrapped up, they sit at a river for hours and the weather changes. Christ-on-a-bike.
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  2.  @Fairy71128  Using a fishing rod?
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  3.  @maggieedward3951  Not everybody watches the news. They may be completely oblivious.
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  4.  @ivorycxxxx  " Then that’s honestly the children’s fault for jumping in, in my opinion." With that attitude you should never be given the responsibility of looking after young children.
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  5. Police are searching the Wyre for the damaged section.
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  6. Captain Birdseye looked dodgy to me.
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  7. For Putin, yes it is.
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  8. Yes, the property is suspiciously modest and suggests that any alleged money went elsewhere. It's the sort of property somebody would live in to actively avoid speculation regarding their finances.
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  9.  @florenceandrews2526  You don't need a guise, you simply walk down the path like everybody else is doing!
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  10.  @araweelospirit4180  But the irony is delicious.
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  11. Only somebody living in a part of the UK that doesn't experience extreme weather events would say that.
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  12. It is local cell towers that send it, so I am guessing yours will not alert in France!
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  13. How do you know it wasn't? The video they want is from the day before she disappeared, not after.
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  14. "If she was in that river she’d be floating and visible by now" In freezing temperatures her body would decompose at a much slower rate, her clothing would be VERY heavy too. She could remain under water for weeks.
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  15. Yes...and no. He searched sections of the river. If he really wanted to assist, he would continue the search downstream.
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  16.  @geoffjoffy  Yeah there is a lot of "that's what I heard", going about.
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  17. Bodies move, you don't appear to understand that simple point.
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  18. Hope they aren't expecting to catch a train or bus to the protests.
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  19.  @stephen4121  Because people who live in coastal towns and wildfire areas obviously aren't important, right?
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  20.  @pjj177  I'm happy for you. However there are plenty of people who would have liked to have been woken during the night to be warned that their house was about to be flooded. Amazing how people are individuals who have individual circumstances. But as long as YOU are ok, right?
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  21.  @loriAlessiroberts118  Indeed, the police timeline stated that the harness was halfway between the bench and the river. Could it be that she fell in while attending to her dog, leaving the phone on the bench listening to the Teams meeting as she did so?
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  22. What exactly is it you want the police to do when adults decide to drop off the grid for whatever reason?
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  23. They can bring all the laws they like, who's going to enforce them? When was the last time you saw a dog warden or copper on a local street beat?
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  24. What YOU don't believe does not leave only one option! What you believe did or did not happen is irrelevant to what actually did happen, you do understand that, yes?
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  25. "how can she be so sure that every possible thing has been checked out" It is fortunate that she only said that in your head then, isn't it.
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  26. You can't have the police investigating every "missing" adult who has been gone for 60 minutes.
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  27.  @martinwebb1681  LOL! On the other hand I once witnessed a "missing" child report, toddler I think, so not the usual teenager going on the run stuff. I was impressed at how quickly the police had sealed off the housing estate within minutes of the report, there were loads of cars and vans. The police get a bad rap, but they were certainly on the ball that day. All ended well, the kid was playing hide and seek in their own house!
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  28. Why is alerting people of a local flood, 1984?
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  29.  @pjj177  "they don’t no where it’s gonna flood until it’s already started flooding tho brains of Britain" Erm, it's called a weather forecast. River levels are monitored, isn't all this stuff amazing? Welcome to the 21st Century!
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  30. Peter Faulding is looking a right idi0t now.
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  31. "The governemt has the power to jam your phone?" They already have to power to turn off your local cell towers, they don't need to "jam" your phone, not that this has anything to do with jamming anyway, because it doesn't!
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  32. People fall into water and drown every day. They are reported as strong swimmers. They are found weeks later by a dog walker or jogger. It's like you lot don't read the news.
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  33. If she is "right" then why has she withdrawn her comments and apologised?
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  34. Comparing an alert of a local flood to 1984? Get a grip!
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  35. The lesson I got from this is don't be a p!sshead and drive like a cnut.
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  36. Because bodies move around, get trapped, sink. It's not rocket science mate!
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  37. Except the camera at home shows he was there, at home!
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  38. Typical Windows update forcing a reboot and losing your work.
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  39. Bleeding heart champagne socialist spouts verbal diarrhoea.
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  40. The issue with people spouting their pet theories is that the police have to deal with all the crackpots turning up thinking they are Miss Marple. It is even worse when a so-called "expert" goes around making claims that she is not in the water when the whole river has not actually been searched. He should stick to using his sonar and leave it a missing persons case to the real experts, instead of getting the hopes of the family up.
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  41.  @MelliaBoomBot  Yes they turn up, it's why the police mentioned that speculation on social media was not helpful. It generates all these pet theories that then others act upon. They were breaking into empty houses for example. The sonar guy is experienced at sonar searching, his only comments should be that he could not find her. It should not extend to categorically saying that she is not in the river, that is a ridiculous statement that people on social media have picked up on who now believe she isn't in there because an "expert" said so. I believe that "expert" is going to be left very embarrassed with his reputation in tatters.
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  42.  @kpopfan674  But they have searched. What is it the 40 detectives have been doing?
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  43. Going after him suggests that the police are very confident of their information and getting to the charging stage.
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  44.  @keepitmoving5440  "It does not effect me" But it does others. How selfish can you get? You do know that it is LOCAL alerts for LOCAL disasters?
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  45. But his sonar was better than the one the police had! Perhaps had he been told of her problems he could have used the menopausal woman setting on it?
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  46. There are 40 detectives on the case. You actually believe they have 40 detectives only looking at the river theory? They don't tell us everything you know!
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  47.  @DameTremonti  Will people like you stop bringing common sense to the discussion. We need more wild speculation and bonkers abduction theories, not some sensible well thought comments from the likes of you.
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  48.  @loriAlessiroberts118  No that is not correct. It was initially reported that a man picked it up off the floor, however it was later confirmed that it was found face up on the bench.
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  49.  @fernfreeman1729  Get a grip FFS
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  50.  @fernfreeman1729  Get a grip
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  51. He is an expert on conducting underwater searches using his sonar equipment. He is not an expert on how to investigate a missing person. He has searched some sections of the river, not all of it. His opinions are just that.
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  52.  @raoulmoat6762  It was the family that wanted the information published due to somebody about to sell it to the press.
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  53.  @angrypandagames1792  Get a grip, the partner did do it.
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  54.  @MacStoker  LOL
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  55. "’I'd just wouldn’t no what to do if my wife was missing..." Read the washing machine instructions?
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  56. Er, yes. So?
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  57.  @docastrov9013  LOL, how dare they, it's January!
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  58. So not just the tories at it. Well there's a surprise! Perhaps she should have sorted her own house out.
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  59.  @amo2464  There is no evidence of her leaving the area. The route she took clearly shows she was heading back home. The simplest explanation is generally the actual one but people don't accept mundane deaths, they have to make it into some sort of mystery.
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  60.  @Hotsince83  Why would covering their face from the weather the day before her disappearance be suspicious? I sense a certain amount of hysteria creeping into these sightings by witnesses.
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  61. @phil stabler Including you?
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  62.  @markpallister9882  Well he did feed 5000 using only two small fish.
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  63. You win the Internet today!
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  64. I am not, but still found it frightening to have her and Corbyn in charge, hence why I didn't vote Labour.
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  65. He is not an expert on missing persons cases, he is an expert on using his sonar technology. He knows bugger-all about investigating a missing person! His opinion is no more valid or useful than any other here!
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  66. He's seen an opportunity to get national TV advertising for free!
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  67. It isn't a link, it isn't new, your phone has had the feature for years.
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  68. Except it is not a conclusion, it is a hypothesis. It is not their fault that you don't understand the difference.
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  69.  @PrivateEye121  I've sure the police know far more than you do about his alibi.
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  70. Just you.
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  71.  @orsoncart1547  There are no reporting restrictions on why somebody gets arrested. You clearly don't understand the law yourself!
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  72. The word r@cism no longer means what you think it means. Language changes.
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  73. Fell in a river and drown, people drown every day.
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  74. When not working for the BBC who have to remain impartial.
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  75. What is she living on, fresh air?
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  76.  @JillValentine18  It was men with fish gear. It's a river, of course there will be people fishing!
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  77. They are reading glasses, he is reading and can't see peoples faces when wearing them. It's not rocket science!
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  78.  @joannalane9528  The people who find trivial things "annoying" are the ones who spoil it.
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  79. If she was riding a horse, she would be referred to as horse rider. So?
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  80. Indeed. I have been saying since he appeared in front of the cameras earlier in the week that he is an expert on conducting sonar searches and that is all he is ! He is NOT an expert on missing person investigations. For him to make a claim that she is not in the water before searching was ridiculous, then to say that he would have found her is utter nonsense. Suggesting that a third-party was involved is utterly bonkers, he is a glorified diver!
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  81. "Much cheaper, more reliable, and can reach more people quicker." No they aren't, no they aren't, no they don't.
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  82.  @kippertrace5808  What are you on about?
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  83.  @davidclayton3831  The sonar guys haven't searched all the river. My dog would not jump in, you have no idea what a dog would or would not do.
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  84. The dog stays where the last scent is. The reported running back and forth is anxiety, not knowing what to do.
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  85. The Teams meeting had ended, you can remain in the meeting until YOU leave it.
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  86. Whatever you believe her point to have been, she has withdrawn and apologised for it. Clearly accepting she was wrong. Did Labour miss her point when saying the comments were, "deeply offensive and wrong"? I suggest that it is YOU that has missed her point.
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  87.  @kpopfan674  "So yes, I believe they have wasted 40 cops on just the river. " Except they clearly have not, hence why they found witnesses by trawling through CCTV and other cameras.
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  88.  @shellyastro  What?
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  89. Pepper spray...oh wait we are not allowed it. How about a taser...oh wait we are not allowed it. How about a knife...oh wait we are not allowed it. Hang on while I get my 3 inch swiss army pocket knife that I am not allowed a locking blade on. (if you have one, a CO2 fire extinguisher does the trick, you can then bludgeon the dog after it is empty too!)
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  90.  @thekitowl  Stop spreading this BS. Peter said he searched where the body was found. He then searched before the weir later on.
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  91. The police are not "armchair detectives" though. Neither are the National Crime Agency who also say the most likely scenario is the river.
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  92.  @helencampbell2064  I initially got confused about that too because the early news reports had quotes saying that the dog walker was seen picking the phone up off the ground. It didn't help that the police stated the phone and harness were found in the area of the bench, rather the harness being on the ground and the phone on it!
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  93. He hasn't search all the river.
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  94. You can express your view of how "your" people are discriminated against without then claiming that others aren't as affected as "your" people are. She is a hypocrite.
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  95. "Surely if she fell in the river her dog would have gone in after her. " Or it could have stood at the edge watching her drown. It could have walked away and sniffed a tree. You can not say what it would or would not have done. "if she had drowned I'm sure she would have surfaced by now. " Nope, people drown are are never found, some takes weeks. "Something happened to this poor woman" The likely thing being that slope in front of the bench and then the vertical drop into the river at the end of it!
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  96.  @thekitowl  Wrong. He searched that section. He said so himself!
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  97.  @barbaraurquhart2276  Typical bit of deflection there, keep this about Sturgeon.
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  98.  @scaztalks5952  So she's a liar?
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  99. Are you suggesting that they don't search the river? How would she be found if they didn't search it?
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  100. This guy loves the camera.
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  101.  @teddyturner6859  Yes I know, hence why I'd have to read the washing machine instructions!
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  102. Those having a go at the police for releasing the information didn't bother to check first that it was the FAMILY who wanted the information out there. It was due to their fear that somebody was about to sell the story to the papers.
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  103. "yet no one on holiday walking the riverbank ,and countryside has ever fell in the water before." Except the two year old that you obviously don't know about?
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  104. What if your house was about to be flooded with your baby sleeping downstairs?
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  105. He was very good at claiming that he was very good.
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  106. STFU it was proved from the start that he was home.
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  107. @escodo The major reason the tories got in was due to left-wing right-on trendies crying about losing Brexit and calling Brexit voters "gammons" and "r@cists" etc. Calling your traditional voters that is no way to get votes from them!
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  108.  @dalebenton3354  It is possible that they don't even know that they have been witnessed there, if what the witness states is true of course.
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  109. @JESUS IS MY KING ELIJAH CHRONICLES 3 GLORY TO GOD If he had a bike, he would have used it.
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  110. They searched that section of river not all of it. You have no idea what state the river is in. Something can float a long way in an hour.
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  111. She also missing the point that the family wanted the information release because somebody was going to sell it to the very media she is a part of, who would have then printed it!
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  112. Unfortunately (or fortunately for the family) the police are in the media spotlight on this one.
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  113. It is literally a ping from your local cell tower to a feature that your smartphone has had for years. Nobody is gaining control of your phone...
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  114. Yes we do have wild fires and extreme flooding in the UK. If a local river is about to flood, I want to be alerted. I am sure that those living in rural areas would like to be alerted to wildfires too.
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  115. The word r@ce no longer means what you think it means. English evolves, you need to buy a new dictionary.
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  116. Because you are an expert at underwater searches.
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  117. He's full of sh!te.
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  118.  @cherylsapcote7327  The owner is a waste management company, the land may not be of value to them for building something! They may have no wish to use it for an actual building but for some other purpose.
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  119.  @PrivateEye121  The partner was home.
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  120. You wouldn't happen to know the hex head size of the bolts? Asking for a friend.
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  121. Willow running back and forth is nothing to do with the gate. The dog can go under the fence right next to it! The reason Willow was at the bench was due to that being the last place the scent was. The actions of the dog were caused by anxiety due to it not knowing what to do. Stop jumping to insane conclusions based on your lack of understanding!
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  122. @Pilkington Archive 🟠 "Other than the fact that he clearly stated yesterday they are doing all of this FREE OF CHARGE. " Of course national TV coverage for his company and its services is nothing to do with him doing it "free of charge".
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  123. You are suggesting that it is impossible for somebody next to a river to fall into the river?
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  124. I read that his Ring doorbell shows that he was home at the time.
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  125. @mr wpg The Stasi and Gestapo were so successful because it was your neighbour that was making the accusation.
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  126. The current is strong enough. A body in heavy winter clothing sinks until it decomposes and then maybe floats, since the water is freezing it would take some time to decompose.
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  127. Fell, panicked/unconscious, drown. Simple.
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  128.  @mikebarratt9627  Yeah because it makes perfect sense to go back with a body when the police and public are there.
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  129.  @luluah1198  You think it unusual for Labour to react this way when cleaning up their history of anti-Semitism?
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  130.  @goldensoul1842  The partner was at home, it has been proved you m0r0n.
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  131. "The police shouldn't just focus on one avenue but explore all avenues" It's fortunate then that they have 40 detectives doing that, why on Earth do you think they aren't? The "flood guy" does not know that river. We know for a fact that a body can go over the weir into the tidal part.
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  132.  @patricialee7919  Her partner is desperate to cling on to her being alive. She is in the water, it is that simple.
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  133. Knowledge of her mental state is for those officially taking part in the investigation. It is not the fault of police that the internet crazies latched onto this case after an idiot "expert" told them that she is definitely not in the river. Had it not been for him then the focus would have remained on the river and a bunch of armchair m0r0ns would not be demanding personal medical history. What the public think is irrelevant, if they have information they only need to offer it and let the police determine its relevance.
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  134.  @acechadwick  "Nicola's husband kept insisting there was no way she would be in the river. " Because of the "expert" Peter Faulding. He was the trigger. Without his comments it would have been a mundane search with the body turning up weeks later as usual, zero need for any information being released by the police. One f00l claimed she was abducted by helicopter!
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  135. FFS STOP
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  136. Wrap your head in cardboard too. It's the only way to stop "them" getting to you.
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  137. Heavy winter clothing would drag her down like a stone. Soak a load of clothes and a heavy winter coat, then try picking it up! Now in addition to that weight, imagine being freezing cold and wet with slippery slopes.
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  138. You really don't understand how this works, do you. "They" don't know anything using this alerting technology.
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  139. It is LOCAL cell towers alerting LOCAL phones.
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  140. "He said the body would be floating within like 8 days." He's clearly full of sh!te. We know for a fact that a body can remain below the surface for weeks as it depends on water temperature affecting decomposition and the clothing worn. We know this because bodies not being found happens plenty of times.
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  141. Bodies have not been found for weeks, or ever. We know this as a fact. The decomposed body taking 6 to 8 days is clearly what sometimes, but not always, happens. It is pointless quoting it. She will appear in the water somewhere eventually.
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  142. A beach doesn't know how to behave?
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  143. She did not leave her phone behind, it is likely that she placed her phone down to attend to her dog or whatever. It was in a Teams meeting so if sat at the bench you would simply place it on the bench to do something, like get the dog or a ball or whatever.
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  144.  @damprotek  No, read my comment properly
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  145. It doesn't.
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  146. Because you are the expert on pulling 3 week old decomposed bodies out of a river.
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  147.  @hummerstattoo9769  So not an expert on pulling decomposed bodies out of a river then.
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  148.  @hummerstattoo9769  I made no claim, you did.
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  149. It isn't shallow, it is 15ft in places.
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  150. Because the bench is literally at the bank of a river that slopes down to a vertical drop. It's not rocket science!
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  151. Occams Razor, she fell in and drown. The bench is at the start of a slope with a vertical drop into the river.
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  152. ^This
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  153.  @angelsackson  So? A limited company means no liability, nothing to top yourself over.
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  154. "council estate morals" That comment reveals much about you.
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  155.  @nickcolarelli8131  Triggered!
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  156.  @stephenparker9434  How do you know they didn't have an "open mind"? What is it you think 40 detectives have been doing?
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  157.  @norabarry7694  Aww diddum's.
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  158.  @norabarry7694  Triggered!
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  159.  @norabarry7694  Triggered!
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  160. The public usually find drown bodies doofus. They pop up when decomposing. The police divers find them when they are still close to where they went in.
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  161.  @Ghostrrr11  We know he is innocent due to his alibi doofus.
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  162. It wasn't listed.
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  163.  @alibobsmarland9572  The clue is that people died and the guy is alleged to be responsible for their deaths. Hence manslaughter!
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  164. @Paul Embleton There is a rather large difference between being critical of a policy and comparing the policy makers to Nazis. The fact that I have to point this out to you is bizarre!
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  165.  @kieran2842  Who do you think was in power in the 1930s? He knew exactly what he was referring to, the fact that I have to point this out...
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  166. Until YOU need them.
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  167.  @chrisbamo6400  They have been fine when I needed them.
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  168. Downstream.
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  169. Because it makes total sense for somebody to carry a bloated, decomposing body in the boot of their car to an area where there is a large number of police and public hanging around to catch you chucking a body into the river. smh...
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  170.  @nelsoncep7379  The police were still searching the river!
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  171.  @nelsoncep7379  The police stated that they were still conducting the search of the river. Not sure how that can be made any clearer? As for nobody being there at 2am, how would the person dumping the body know that for sure? Why take that risk? Why assume that some armchair detective was not patrolling expecting somebody to be dumping a body? None of it makes sense when the body can simply be buried ANYWHERE ELSE without risk!
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  172.  @nelsoncep7379  Because even for somebody not of sound mind it makes no sense to take the body back to the river and risk getting caught.
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  173.  @JokellyARt  Get a grip!
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  174. If my local river was about to burst its banks, I'd prefer to be woken up and informed about it.
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  175. Commas and Full stops are a thing!
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  176. When the body turns up in the water, what are you going to say then about the police?
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  177.  @stevec6427  Going after the gangs is Whac-A-Mole. You need to make it a non-profitable venture.
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  178. Because there hasn't been a crime so it is not a crime scene.
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  179.  @carriered4715  People like you make the mistake of thinking rivers aren't dangerous. Sometimes they even live to tell the tale.
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  180. "despite all of the evidence" There is no evidence that she left. Not one camera picked her up leaving the area.
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  181.  @kennywilkinson913  Nobody would know the location of CCTV, doorbell cams and dashcams. Not one witness saw her leave the area, yet they saw her enter it as did cameras. She is in the water.
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  182.  @kennywilkinson913  She would not know all the locations of CCTV, doorbells, dashcams and witnesses. It is impossible! The water near the bank is 18 inches. It is 15 feet deep close to where she was.
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  183. If there is no evidence of criminality, of course you can! The police follow multiple lines of enquiry and the evidence. None of those have produced any evidence of criminality, therefore the most likely scenario is the simplest one, fell in and drown.
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  184. It's because they have to bank the Scottish note as English people will not take it in their change. It's not hard to figure out!
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  185. "At least now we can say she isn't in the river" No, all that can be said it that sonar did not pick up an identifiable body in the section of river they used it in. That is not the same thing at all. "we have a second opinion thanks to Peter " It is just that, an opinion. Other experts have the opinion that her body is now miles down the river. But of course they don't get their face on the telly to tell you. Do you actually believe that the police don't have access to many other experts? "and the police are now 'open' to other enquiries" They have from the start, what do you think the 40 detectives have been doing? How do you think they can say that all the other leads they followed do not point to criminality? They haven't had 40 detectives looking at a river! "Either Nichola planned this or someone else did" "Yet there is zero evidence. Not a single CCTV camera, doorbell camera, dashcam or witness shows her leaving the area or in the areas surrounding that area. No one report of strange activity, or persons of interesting. Nothing. The simplest explanation is that she is in the river, her body will be discovered in the weeks to come.
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  186.  @bubandlisa  Your point being what?
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  187. The met office doesn't alert you to a local river about to flood.
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  188.  @simonrodgers2375  Peter Faulding isn't an expert on that river and constantly changes his tune as new facts emerge. His reputation is in tatters now due to the utter nonsense he has stated as fact during this search. He himself had searched the section where her body was found. We know for a fact that a body can go over the weir as it has happened before. The lad went in upstream of the bench and was found SEVEN MILES downstream, two months later. That "expert" should not be listened to. He is back-peddling like mad to save his company. The police will have real experts on that river advising them.
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  189. You mean the "expert" who said it would take a day and then backtracked when seeing the size of the task and now says days?
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  190. It is literally for local cell towers to alert people in the area local to THAT cell tower of a local potential disaster. Calm down.
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  191. Indeed, it appears that it is those who said she had been abducted and other nonsense that appear butt-hut over the police being correct.
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  192. Slavery is worse than being murdered? The J's were slaves two thousand years before people of colour! May I suggest some history lessons?
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  193. Had the locals supported the pub it would still be there.
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  194.  @juliehot679  You are not all the locals though. Had they gone rather than cry now, it would still be open.
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  195.  @juliehot679  The power was with the locals who could have done that years ago yet did nothing about it! As usual people can't be bothered and then cry about it later.
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  196.  @juliehot679  Well, no point crying over spilt beer!
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  197. Alerting people that their local river is close to flooding, is a "fear tool"?
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  198.  @DaveStreet-v2t  Or cats.
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  199.  @apollonia6656  Get a grip.
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  200. Yes it is daft.
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  201.  @cas995  Just to be clear. You think you know what a crime scene is, but the police don't?
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  202. Get a grip Miss Marple.
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  203.  @kpopfan674  I can see there is zero point discussing this with you as you have a huge chip on your shoulder regarding the police. No matter. Bye.
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  204. Why back at the river when it is a massive risk compared to simply burying her elsewhere. It makes no sense to take the body back to where there is a bunch of people hanging around to spot you. After three weeks you will not be wanting to handle that body and the autopsy will show that she was not in the water.
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  205.  @jonswift6173  But that would mean they would know she hasn't been in the river for 3 weeks. It certainly would not bring the matter to a close, it would start a murder investigation.
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  206.  @shellyastro  Yes and about time too, it is a good layer added to securing your account.
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  207.  @johnross2924  Yes, but the point is that they can already do it right now. They can jam your individual phone, all ones on a certain cell tower and even all non-essential phones leaving a select few working during disasters. It was in response to the OP being surprised by "The governemt has the power to jam your phone?"
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  208. "There were a handful of stupid and inept officers handling this case. " Disagree, the police were correct. It was the "expert" Peter Faulding fuelling the media vultures and armchair detectives that caused all this nonsense. Had the police been allowed to quietly get on with it then, as usual, the body would be found by a jogger or dog walker and that would be that.
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  209.  @mydogeatspuke  " It's mind blowing how nobody seems to understand this." LOL indeed. I despair for our future if it in the hands of the geniuses in comments.
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  210. Wrong. You follow the evidence, there is none that suggests abduction and plenty that suggest drowning. The "expert" diver should stick to what he is an expert on, searching the river. He is not an expert in missing persons cases.
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  211.  @tracymac1111  You are not making any sense, the job of the police is literally to follow evidence!
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  212. You might want to be alerted that your house is going to be flooded though.
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  213. "it would not rule out foul play." That's what an autopsy does!
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  214.  @sharonreichter2537  There is no evidence that somebody has taken her. That is the point. I'm not quite sure what it is you want the police to do?
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  215.  @pjl8119  "At it's deepest that "river" can't be much more than 6ft." It is 15ft near the bench. On the tree right next to the bench is a sign warning of deep water. You obviously don't know the river!
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  216.  @sharonreichter2537  It is the correct road. People looking on Google Maps don't realise that it is wrong!
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  217. "yiu can't say that there wasn't a crime committed" If you listen properly, they aren't saying that.
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  218.  @helencampbell2064  The phone was on the bench, this was confirmed by the police. It was early reports reported in the media, since debunked, that it was on the ground . The police stated it was on the bench face up.
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  219. People fall into water and drown every day.
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  220.  @realityhijack1985  No, bodies do not initially float, the lungs fill with water and they sink. Depending on buoyancy they then bobble along the riverbed with the undercurrent. Water temperature and O2 levels determine the rate of decomposition, the body fills with gas and then floats, this can take days or weeks.
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  221.  @realityhijack1985  The body is being released to the family so that confirms it isn't murder either. Looks like accidental death with be the result of the June inquiry.
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  222.  @bobdylan7120  It wasn't a crime scene and it still isn't.
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  223.  @Andre-im7eq  There hasn't been a crime. It is a missing person investigation. Please don't comment on something you clearly now nothing about.
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  224.  @bobdylan7120  You are looking silly now!
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  225.  @Andre-im7eq  Don't you look a bit silly now!
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  226.  @Andre-im7eq  Aww butt-hurt because you look silly now.
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  227.  @dilonkumar4960  Wh1te supremists aren't the issue as they are blatant about being r@cist, it is people like you that are the issue, the subtle ones.
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  228. She was on cameras and witnessed entering the area. She would have been spotted leaving it.
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  229.  @meganjperry9489  Indeed, but for her then not to appear anywhere AFTER that area is highly unlikely. Not one CCTV camera, doorbell camera or dashcam. No witnesses.
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  230. The volume of water to be searched is immense, even the section where she likely went in is a massive volume of water with zero visibility. They use fingertips to feel around. Now imagine yourself in a huge, three-dimensional space, blind, freezing cold, trying to find something. It's not a heated clear swimming pool.
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  231.  @nickcolarelli8131  Aww my own stalker, how quaint!
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  232. @paulf2529 The owners also have a adjacent waste disposal site.
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  233. I'm baffled that you think the police haven't already considered what you are baffled about. They have done this before you know!
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  234. She is thick. In cases where the body is not immediately found it is usually the public that do.
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  235. The family believed that somebody was going to sell the story to the very media industry this woman is a part of. Her hypocrisy is astounding!
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  236. Because the police would never of thought of all that.
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  237.  @ossianx8752  The whole river has not been searched, only sections of it. Since the whole river hasn't been searched it is highly likely that she is in it compared to other scenarios where she simply vanishes without trace. It took two months before Roger Jones surfaced seven miles from where he entered the water, upstream of that very bench.
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  238.  @tomburnham6640  The dog can get under the fence near the gate.
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  239.  @thekitowl  WRONG He has stated that he DID search there. Stop spreading BS!
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  240. Your friend is an idi0t. The camera proves that he was at home.
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  241. @Butt Hole It's a feature that your smartphone has had for years. Calm down Nancy!
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  242. I guess that her warped belief is that bl@ck people can't be r@cist only a victim of it.
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  243. It was not and still is not a crime scene.
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  244.  @alanthomson1227  I don't need to, you've described my missus.
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  245.  @fluffy00123x  That "expert" is going to be left with egg on his face when they find her body in the water.
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  246.  @JDE_2713  Common sense is not carrying a decomposing, bloated, falling apart, body back to the river when you know that there is heavy police and public scrutiny in the area. You would have no idea if you would be witnessed so instead you would bury it somewhere where there is zero risk. Jesus...can you be any more stup1d?
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  247.  @5ifty6ixmediauk  It is the logical conclusion that she fell into the river. There is no evidence of criminality, so what exactly do you want them to do?
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  248. Because he's full of sh!t. His only interest is getting his face on national TV and advertising his company. He states that usually it's 2 to 300m, then switches to searching the full length, He clearly underestimated the size of the task.
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  249. "She fell in ok, then where is she?? " Somewhere is the VAST volume of water that has yet to be searched. "Makes absolutely NO SENSE" Makes perfect sense, people drown and are not discovered for weeks, if at all. "Why insist she fell in, without further investigation?" I guess you've missed the whole investigation thing going on then....
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  250. Yes they did.
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  251. "Braverman, Farage, and the rest..." don't work for the BBC.
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  252. She was on a Teams meeting. The phone video and mic were muted, as I do when I am on a Teams meeting. Her friend said she used the speakerphone when on calls, so it is normal. It makes perfect sense that should would place it on the bench listening to the meeting drone on while attending to her dog. If the ball was in the river you would leave it, if it was rolling down that slope toward the river, you might try and catch it. At the end of that slope is a VERTICAL drop!
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  253.  @Blazeproudman  None of what makes any sense? She was on a Teams meeting. The video and mic were muted. She was known to use the speakerphone. The bank slopes away from the bench. There is a vertical drop into the river. These are FACTS. They haven't found her because the river is a massive volume of water with zero visibility. It can be shallow and then goes to a depth of 15ft. People can be found weeks later. The divers have to do fingertip searches in a three-dimensional area of immense volume. Not sure why you think that it would be easy to locate a body.
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  254.  @Blazeproudman  The slope to the river literally starts at the bench. She would have been a few steps from her phone which was still on the Teams call. It's not like she left it and went for a walk! Attending to her dog is likely.
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  255.  @Blazeproudman  No it hasn't.
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  256.  @Blazeproudman  They have searched the sections they said they would, not all over it.
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  257.  @Blazeproudman  Swimming in a heated swimming pool is nothing like falling into a freezing cold river while wearing winter clothes instantly soaked and weighting you down, panicking because of the vertical drop you have just fallen down.
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  258. "Nicola is not in that river..." She has not been found. It is impossible to say that she is not in it.
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  259.  @EliteMMAv2  The whole river hasn't been extensively searched. Why do you lot fail to understand this?
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  260. I'm sure the family have been kept informed, you however don't need to know.
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  261.  @tanzieification  Mine and the police. Quite rightly too, it is nothing to do with you!
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  262.  @tanzieification  Aww diddum's upset because they can't have their own way?
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  263.  @tanzieification  I am not the one who thinks police should be updating them on an ongoing missing persons investigation. NEWSFLASH: It is NOTHING to do with you!
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  264.  @tanzieification  The police are under no obligation to tell you anything. The fact that I have to point this out to you is bizarre.
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  265. Racist
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  266. In India she would have been raped just walking down the street.
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  267. "and have 100% sucess rate" Wrong! Peter Faulding stated that she was not in the river, he said it should be a land search. Stop defending the guy.
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  268. The partner has a solid alibi.
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  269. "You can't blame the public for listening to someone who positioned themselves all over the media as an expert, as Faulding did." Yes in fact, you can. Those of us who are not idi0ts saw through the guy on day one. His claims BEFORE he searched sounded alarm bells. When you have two sets of competing experts, don't listen to the loud one saying that they are an expert.
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  270. @Dougie "Got sick of reading the nonsensical comments made by the armchair experts." Says the armchair expert. Irony.
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  271. She herself knew she was wrong, she withdrew her remarks and apologised.
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  272. He's full of sh1t. Free advertising for his company.
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  273. 15 ft is not "shallow". Over it's length the AVERAGE is shallow with depths of a lot more.
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  274. He is a Counsellor not MP and it has been dealt with, so what? You are really comparing some no-name Counsellor to Diane Abbott in terms of status?
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  275. The speculation was the cause of idi0ts breaking into peoples property, digging holes and having the locals living in fear of their door being kicked in by the mob. Police have better things to do.
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  276.  @traceymitchell6619  "imply she took her own life by giving personal information" They implied nothing of the sort, you reached that conclusion on your own. The information was released at the request of the family as they believed it was about to be sold to the media by "somebody" close to the case. "and failing to look at any other alternative" Wrong. Early on the police stated that they had followed all leads and none led to any evidence of criminality. They had evidence of her entering the area, yet none leaving it. In the absence of criminality their hypothesis was that she was in the river, but they were keeping an open mind. What do you think the 40 officers were investigating? How wet the water is? "She couldn't have drifted that far down so how did she get there?" Are you an expert on that river? No. The police will have plenty of experts advising them, perhaps saying that she can indeed go that far down the river. We know for a fact that a previous victim did go over the weir and several miles down the river. The so-called "expert" Peter Faulding has been left with massive egg on his face.
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  277. Not everybody follows the news.
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  278.  @imKXLAA  It is one test.
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  279. Her newspaper would have been the first to buy the menopause story from whoever was about to sell it. It was the reason the information was released by the family. She is a hypocrite.
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  280. The CCTV proves he is not involved you pillock.
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  281.  @Trux2010  Because you've seen the CCTV, oh wait, no you haven't! Get A Grip
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  282.  @Trux2010  YOU are accusing an innocent person of murdering his partner when the police have evidence that he was at home. STOP IT
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  283.  @Trux2010  You actually believe that police haven't asked him about his whereabouts? HE IS ON CCTV AT HOME
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  284.  @paulinecabbed1271  My guess is that the ANPR has been used to identify the 700 cars they know passed through and who's owners have been contacted.
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  285. The partner was home, this has been proved.
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  286. Left the phone on the bench as she attends to her dog. It is a sloping bank with a vertical drop into the river. What the dog would or would not do can not be said, so is irrelevant. There is no evidence of abduction, nothing on the cameras saying she left the area. The simplest scenario is the most likely one.
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  287.  @octowuss1888  Of course I have a phone. Yes I have dogs. Mine would not go in water, it would be far too interested in sniffing a tree. You obviously don't know that the bench is a few steps from the river, she hasn't just gone for a walk and left it, it would have been right next to her on the bench.
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  288. What is you solution to economic migrants attempting to illegally enter a country?
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  289. Ok Adolf.
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  290. In heavy winter clothing and freezing water, nobody is.
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  291.  @JPayne95  " if you believe there's no evidence then thank fuck you're not the main detective working the case. The items were clearly there to distract police, either left by herself to fake her own death or left by her killer/abducter" Or she fell into the river and drown.
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  292.  @craigsmith9876  In heavy winter clothing nobody is a strong swimmer. The mistake people like you make is underestimating how dangerous a freezing cold river is that instantly saps your strength and how difficult it is to get out of it. You could be dead in 15 minutes.
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  293.  @conhand.3578  She is easily found, she has her own Postcode.
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  294.  @johnross2924  What is it that you believe "they" achieved during the pandemic?
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  295.  @pjj177  You put far too much faith in the Governments ability to be anything other than incompetent.
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  296.  @johnross2924  What exactly is coming?
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  297.  @jabbadabbajew6035  Did they? How so?
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  298.  @johnross2924  So a feeling that than anything based on fact?
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  299.  @jabbadabbajew6035  Such as? Be specific.
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  300.  @jabbadabbajew6035  I am asking YOU
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  301.  @jabbadabbajew6035  So you are full of BS then. Got it.
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  302.  @jabbadabbajew6035  " everyone reading this" knows why YOU are not answering the question. Goodbye!
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  303. Don't forget to buy his book!
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  304. They don't have your number. They are not blocking your phone. Jesus people are thick....
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  305.  @pureblood8307  The public will solve it, like they do whenever a body turns up weeks later in the water.
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  306. Diane Abbott is a r@cist, who could possibly have guessed...
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  307.  @paulwilliams5013  Yet not one witness or camera has shown her to be alive.
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  308.  @simonbaxter8001  LOL
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  309.  @florenceandrews2526  It was the day before her disappearance. There will be a LOT of people there wandering around the day before!
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  310.  @CB-xr1eg  At todays prices it would be 2.
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  311.  @markpallister9882  I guess it is possible that he rode a bicycle 1,200 years before they were invented. But if there were bikes, why did the Romans walk everywhere? They'd have cycle lanes on the Roman roads.
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  312. It is equally possible none of that would happen. The simplest scenario usually turns out to be it, she fell in and drown!
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  313.  @oldpainless316  "They are found where they go in." Really? Then explain why bodies are found weeks later? USUALLY they are found where they go in.
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  314.  @oldpainless316  What?
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  315.  @HiddenExistence  Ignore @Aykut London Even though the police have ruled out the boyfriend the poster is going around saying he did it.
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  316. "All these years I have been called a conspiracy theorist." I wonder why!
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  317. I had one this morning.
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  318. Electable MP in her area...
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  319. It's because the Labour Party has issues with anti-Semitism and they are cleaning house.
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  320. Based on the bench being next to a sloping bank with a vertical drop into the river. That there is camera and witness evidence that she entered the area, but none that she left.
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  321.  @sharperprospecting6980  It isn't. It is simply pinging out to any mobile connected to that cell tower. Your phone is already being pinged every few seconds!
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  322.  @sharperprospecting6980  It is a function of your phone. It is literally installed at the factory!
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  323.  @sharperprospecting6980  What are you talking about? You clearly do not understand this.
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  324. Bodies are generally found by the public. This is nothing new. Dive teams tend to find them straight away or not at all.
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  325.  @halp_ai1227  I will x
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  326. Does it use different technology? Turn it off on Android: Notifications, Advanced, Emergency Alerts OFF
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  327. She was in a Team meeting, I'd imagine that she said hello to everybody at the start of the meeting.
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  328. Except the police asked 700 drivers in that AREA not just a road.
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  329. It isn't the police, the clue is in the name.
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  330. He/she will be thinking the same, indeed the National Crime Agency also believe she fell in, it is where all the evidence points.
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  331.  @paulinecabbed1271  The dog, harness and phone! The bench being at the edge of a slope with a vertical drop at the end. She was not captured on any CCTV, doorbell cam or dashcam leaving the area. Not one witness saw her leaving the area. Everything points to the river.
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  332. The police have stated that he has a solid alibi due to cameras at home.
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  333. They all knew the salary when applying.
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  334. WRONG The police said from day one that she is. It was "experts" on TV such as that idi0t diver Peter Faulding saying she was not in the river.
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  335. Peter is a m0r0n.
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  336.  @CB-xr1eg  The day before? How so?
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  337. The great thing about watching nursery children play is exactly that, nobody cares about skin colour. R@cism is taught.
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  338.  @thedroneflyingviking1284  Your name means you are guilty of Cultural Appropriation!
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  339. The simplest scenario is likely to be the one. She fell in. The bank is sloping from the bench and there is a vertical drop into the river there. Other scenarios such as abduction or walking away introduce complexity thereby reducing their possibility. No witnesses, not one appearance on any CCTV, doorbell cam, or dashcam. That is complex, so less likely. The more complex an explanation has to be, the less likely it is.
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  340. It's a good job that they haven't then!
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  341.  @kamgunner5920  No. They have not. What they said was that lines of enquiry into criminal involvement have not suggested there is any.
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  342.  @kamgunner5920  What claim?
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  343. Reviewing the case will help establish if changes to training are required. I'd expect the focus would be on media training.
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  344.  @hariowen3840  It isn't meant to be independent, it is a training organisation hoping to learn from any mistakes so that they can be avoided in future training of police officers. Not sure how this can be made any clearer to you?
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  345.  @hariowen3840  I did, I was explaining the process to you. But forgive me for trying to be helpful.
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  346.  @hariowen3840  You are everything that is wrong with social media.
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  347.  @hariowen3840  Thank you for continuing to demonstrate that you are what is wrong with social media.
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  348.  @hariowen3840  I comment as much as I wish.
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  349. Of course they know. The post-mortem CT scan will show it, they will know right now. If the body is released soon to the family it will be because there is no criminality, so simple drowning. The inquest isn't until June and it will be there where the cause of death is officially determined. Speculation was fuelled by idi0ts like Peter Faulding claiming to be experts. The police had searched empty properties in the first instance. The police knew about her being vulnerable from day one.
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  350.  @zxpalpha8664  If they are not immediately found, that is how most drowning victims are found doofus. It is a HUGE volume of moving, shifting water.
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  351. He is not right to compare policy makers to Nazis.
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  352.  @missrockafella9432  Get a grip, you know nothing about living under a Nazi regime. It is an insult to the victims of Nazism.
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  353. You only need to look in my bed for her.
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  354. It has been verified that he was home. Stop speculating b0ll0x about an innocent person.
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  355.  @goldzerox  He is literarily on camera at home. Get a grip!
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  356.  @markr6653  LMFAO
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  357.  @countfosco8535  The results of the Brexit vote suggest otherwise.
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  358. Who do you suggest do it then?
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  359.  @niallg3551  "Try to use your brain before you hit send." To be fair, that's a big ask for most commenting.
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  360. Yes, of course you will.
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  361. We don't actually know if it was insured at all. If the intention was to buy the land and demolish it, then you wouldn't bother with costly insurance. The value is the LAND not the building. If it is not an insurance job then the owner can do as they wish, it is their land, their building.
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  362. Why take the risk when you can dump it anywhere? The autopsy will show that she has been in the water for weeks.
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  363.  @PrivateEye121  My logic suggests that the police know far more than you do. Do your powers of logic make you disagree with the simple statement that the police know more than you?
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  364. Or you could join the Labour Party.
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  365.  @marcusknowles711  So now you think it is the husband and somebody else? sigh
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  366. @Daz Doing nothing? You've missed the whole searching the river and local area thing then?
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  367. @Daz It isn't a crime scene.
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  368.  @mOTHgOBLIN  His mouth is where his arse should be!
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  369. @Haider Ali Ibn Akhlaq The river is 15ft in places. Slow moving gets a body a long way over several days.
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  370. Being bumped off over doing a very local petition or whatever is stretching credulity to the extreme.
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  371.  @lyndadolan456  So some master criminal has bumper her off in Lancashire over her protesting something in Oxford. That really makes sense toy you? Really?
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  372.  @lyndadolan456  There is a large difference between credible threats and utter nonsense.
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  373.  @lyndadolan456  Because there is no evidence of criminality. It's not hard, is it!
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  374.  @lyndadolan456  There is no body, yet. It has to be searched first, which is a mammoth task.
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  375. 1. They have said no such thing. What they said was that lines of enquiry they followed have not lead to any suggestion of criminality but they remain open minded. 2. The so-called "expert" cannot know whether she is in the water or not. All he can state is that usually bodies are found close to where they enter the water. This is not always the case as we know for a fact that bodies can be found miles away weeks later, if at all. What he stated is verifiably not true. 3. Wrong. See point 1. There is no evidence of criminality. If evidence is found, they will of course investigate it. 4. Not quite sure why you assume that. It is so-called "experts" messing the family about, not the police. 5. Since it is not a crime scene there is no point.
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  376. Why do you think that they haven't?
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  377. The most logical hypotheses is that she fell in the river. The more complexity you have to add to a hypothesis, the less likely that it is correct.
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  378. The meaning of words change over time, you do understand that, yes?
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  379. @ J T Biology is obviously not your strong point.
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  380.  @orsoncart1547  No it does not. Reporters literally report on crimes as they attend the court case and watch from the public gallery! Where on Earth are you getting this nonsense from?
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  381. Of course they know that it is her. The police have to wait for the official confirmation. I suspect that DNA will be one of the requirements.
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  382.  @mareemcglashan  LOL!
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  383. So she's going to be found in a four star hotel funded by taxpayers?
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  384.  @Arthur_King_of_the_Britons  Every cloud, eh?
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  385. People can't accept the mundane, they have to embellish things and make them into a great mystery. Simple fact is, she fell in and drown. People would do well to understand the theory of Occam's Razor.
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  386.  @HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022  I am sure the police have investigated all they need to regarding his whereabouts.
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  387.  @HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022  One of the cameras was not working. There will be plenty of others such as the ones used to find the witnesses.
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  388.  @HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022  That "expert" doesn't know anything, it is speculation based on nothing!
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  389. Racist.
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  390. @mr wpg You know what makes a police state successful? Witnesses making claims that fishermen are acting suspiciously!
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  391.  @seamusoflatcap  Not being found is the curious bit. However with my zero knowledge and sitting in the comfort of my armchair, I don't place significant faith in the sonar equipment. Sure in ideal conditions it would find her, but are they ideal in this case? The expert stated that it is difficult to interpret the display and a body side on was difficult to identify. Would Sonar identify her if she was side on and stuck under an embankment for example? Maybe, maybe not. I'd have to bow to the experts knowledge, but his comments do introduce doubt when it is a human, even an expert one, having to interpret results displayed on the screen.
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  392.  @seamusoflatcap  Yes which makes it an almost impossible task to fingertip search a huge three-dimensional environment such as a river. Just because much of the time a body is found around where it fell does not mean they are all found all of the time. Once the body is out of the immediate fingertip search area I imagine it being a hopeless task finding it until it floats. We've all read of bodies being found weeks later, nowhere near where they went in. Why should this case be any different to those just because this guy says so?
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  393.  @seamusoflatcap  I too wondered about the weir, but have no idea what it looks like, so can't comment. For all I know the weir could be fairly submerged allowing a body over it. It must be possible if the police think so. Locals have claimed all week that she will be washed up on the beach at some point. When everybody was claiming that the river was waist deep, local anglers were saying it was 15ft deep in places! I believe that the "expert" is going to be left with egg on his face.
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