Comments by "Tespri" (@Tespri) on "Watch this 14 Year Old GMO Activist Smackdown This Bullying 'Shark Tank' Entrepreneur" video.

  1. Actually it has been long enough to know... Btw organic foods haven't been long enough to be proven safe. Why is that? Because they are under artificial evolution. Every new baby carrot has new gene sequence which affects in long term we don't know. While in GMO all the carrots have the same.
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  2. ***** http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Inside_a_wild-type_banana.jpg This is natural banana. The current banana you're eating is actually produce due cloning and the way it fights against diseases is via genetic manipulation aka GM. https://mmurchie.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/artificial-selection-and-the-rise-of-the-banana/ More about the subject for you. Also organics use actually more chemicals. It's a proven lie that they don't use any of them. Not to mention you don't even seem to understand what chemicals are. "Worldwide, all REAL studies prove the toxicity and health issues, of both people and the environment, of GMO trash. " Literally no study is supporting your claims. In fact if there would you would've cited them by now.
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  3. David n Yeah anyone with half a brain can see how stupid he really is. Even people who support his view over organic. He is one of those "justice troll" types. He trolls people who disagrees with his view. He thinks he is saving the world even though he is harming it. Just like nazies though they were saving world. I know the type. They basically try to bully you so that you stop fighting against their view. The worst part in idiots like him never consider what if they actually are wrong. Which is why you can never do civil conversation with them. It's pretty pathetic of him to attack your education when me for example come from a country which is known from good education and I still disagree with him.
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  4. ***** You growing your own organic doesn't mean that bigger organic companies grows in your style. In fact nothing stops GMO products being farmed same way as organic ones. ". I never use chemicals. No need, I know how to grow things." Really? Are you saying you don't use water on your plants? This is the most hilarious part. Fuckers like you who claim to understand science didn't even fucking know that water is a chemical. Your link is bullshit. Full of pop ups and virus warnings. Luckily I had good firewall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musa_balbisiana I literally gave you link about that and now you try to use it to contradict myself. That beast looks anything but delicious. Full of seeds and small. Same applies to other of those "natural" bs. Never said there isn't natural. Just pointed out you definitely won't find them from shop and they are far from what someone would call as a good product.  Now I bet you haven't ate natural potato or tomato. Pro tip they are both poisonous.
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  5. Ghengis Khan Talk about monsanto is a red herring argument. Monsanto isn't all GMO technology that there is. In fact the fact that you brought monsanto to this conversation proves that you don't know shit about gmo. Not to mention easily made bullshit site you just linked doesn't really prove anything. If you actually had evidence they would be in jail by now. "I do not expect a response from you since your apologist biotech narrative would be crushed. Your "Pro tip," regarding how poisonous natural potatoes and tomatoes are is ridiculous.  All my ancestors ate this "poisonous," food and I am here, LOL." Also you talk that you're irish. You do realize that potato wasn't founded in Ireland? Fucking idiot... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato#Toxicity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_potato What I'm talking about is that the original potato was highly poisonous until it was artificially bred into not poisonous one. The potato we still use on this day still provides a poison but not as much. Only a fucking idiot would start talking about ireland when the origin of potato is from peru and were talking about ancestors of the modern potatoes not the ones we have been breeding. Once again stupidity of organic believers have been proven. Also people have ate poison before. In fact our ability to drink milk is fairly recent and it's mutation. Our ancestors would've died or suffered from terrible disease from drinking milk. Natural selection is too much for you  to handle huh? PS: you haven't even seen a wild cow. In fact every cow that currently exists has been selectively bred by humans. They aren't natural at all.
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  6. Ironically all the people who actually are educated in field of biology disagrees with you...
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  7. suspectsn0thing First guy. If it would be you, then you would see me marking you.
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  8. Ghengis Khan 2 month old comment and you decide to address it. Organic isn't natural food. You haven't even seen natural cow nor a banana. In fact the food haven't even stayed same for thousands of years thanks to selective breeding. "How do you know that the cancer rates in this country have nothing to do with GMOs? " Burden of proof. You cannot blame GMO for it unless you have evidence for it. There are many different things that can cause cancer. One of them is over consumption. "However, since you are the paid apologist scientist for Monsanto" Is that what you say to everyone who disagrees with you in any subject? Try to throw ad hominem attack and ingnore someone's points because you think that they are "paid". Here is the thing. You really don't seem to understand how to debate or think logically nor even understand how scientific method works. "Here is why I hate Monsanto, more than the GMO problem" Monsanto is a red herring attack. It has nothing to do with the is GMO technology harmful or not. So in the end of the day all you can do is to yell "conspiracy CONSPIRACY" Just like creationist thinks that evolution is conspiracy made by scientists. Just like global climate change deniers  yells when someone contradicts them with fact. Just like UFO believers go crazy if people explain why event X had nothing to do with UFOs.
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  9. boonw WEll what I remember from reading the court cases. Most farmers who blame them or get sued by them have actually been stealing from them. In court when it has been shown that it's impossible for their seeds to get X persons farm or be so many of their seeds on their farm from certain distance. So most of the time those idiots got butthurt and try to win them at least in something by doing dishonest business.
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  10. ***** Ignoring study without reading it and repeating it just speaks in volumes of your lack of understanding over science. Real science is based on repetitive testing. You cannot bribe yourself in world of science. Every study that has been bribed and done by bias has been founded out to be faulty when someone else decided to do the same test. Idiots like you don't even understand scientific method, hence you keep trying to ignore evidence with your conspiracy nonsense. PS: I eat GMO and I'm thin as fuck. It's matter of life style not is it organic or GMO. Fat people did exists even before GMO was invented.
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  11. ***** no I don't take drugs. Unlike you who probably smokes weed daily.
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  12. Ghengis Khan I have countered all of your evidences and now you're trying to make strawman argument to save your face. Cross-pollination would be impossible if idiots like you weren't against the seed type which is sterile. It seems that nothing is fine with you. If it's sterile you cry if it's not then you cry.  Fucking religious nuts slowing down the progress of mankind. Seriously if you don't like progress then go to a deserted island and live as one with the nature. Or better join amish community oh wait even they are using GMO because they actually know about farming and issues they have to deal as a farmers. 
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  13. Ghengis Khan I have countered them. It's different do you acknowledge them or not. From view point of a neutral viewer I have addressed them. "Everything that you said is hearsay" Oh the irony. So delicious that I want to make you say it more. I bet you're too stupid to even realize why what you said is ironic and hilarious when it comes from your mouth. " "Revolving door," and Iraqi Order Number 81, I fully understand why you did not bother to respond to the Iraqi Order Number 81, since it would take a lawyer to understand what it means. " I fully understand that it has nothing to do with gmo. "  It was all written by the biotech lawyers, word for word, IMO." Lawyers shouldn't give a shit who they serve. In fact it would be unethical if they did. I guess you're one of those idiots who don't even understand how law system works. Might explain why you view lawyers as evil. "Your argument, "They would all be in jail," makes sense to a scientist, I guess but not to me, or anyone else on this thread." Nothing to do with someone being scientists. Your stupidity seems to be increasing the more you comment. "My posted link listed all the names, in high places in government, all former Monsanto employees,   Did you know that most of our ambassadors, are former employees of Monsanto, as well?  I have provided the link below. " Again you're merely poisoning the well. Monsanto isn't relevant to the technology of GMO. Let's put this way. Even if monsanto didn't exist and other company would do it. Then would you then support it or allow it to be done? If not then leave monsanto out of this and give actual reasons to go against gmo, instead of your conspiracy theories that monsanto is trying to conquest the world. "So, who is this "mythical they,"  that would be in jail? " ... you really can't be this stupid. You were the one who claimed that monsanto has broken laws. If they have and you have clear evidence of it then there literally would be in jail. "money talks" you're going to say next? Well didn't talk when people did defeat tobacco companies. " I am still scratching my head about the Peruvian potato and what it has to do with Ireland, LOL." As I'm scratching my head about why do you think that ireland has anything to do with potatoes ancestors being deadly poisonous to human beings until we started to farm them. "Read my posts, I never said that the potato originated in Ireland." yet you implied it when you started to talk how your ancestors couple hundred years ago ate potatoes.  "I care about "credible studies," and not the ones that the Biotech company monopoly approves of." Our friend here already asked questions and so far you really wouldn't give a shit about any study if it goes against your view. what is this "credible study". Study which always says what you agree with? In science credibility means nothing. Only thing that matters can the test be repeated and will the results be the same. So far anti-gmo side has been actually doing frauds in studies like the rat study which has been refuted and they did take the study back. "They have not only ruined the careers of good independent studies, but threatened them all with lawsuits if they published again.  Some of these scientists are renowned in their fields, " Yeah and earth is actually flat but evil scientists are destroying careers of those who know the truth. Idiot like you doesn't even know how scientific method works. Might be reason why you think that conspiracy theories would apply in science. Whole science is working only because it's very premise is to debunk the very study they are doing. "They would not bother to threaten them with lawsuits, unless they feared something that they said." First of all evidence for threatening. Second if that is all you can think for reasons for that then you're more stupid than I thought. Ever considered possibility of them trying to steal the patents they are currently creating? Or harassing them? In fact idiots like you have been harassing people who try to do tests over this stuff. "Dr. Gilles-Eric Séralin" HAHAHA you actually quoted name of a known fraud XD. This is fucking hilarious you quoted the person who made fake rat test in order to gain publicity against GMO and then retracted it back after the damage was done. Not only she had small sample but she also used rats which gain cancer with high chance if they eat too much. Not to mention she had bias when she was doing in the first place. She has history of doing fraudulent researches and always has been caught on it. She is a scam artists who is taking advantage of people like you in greenpeace. That kind of people exists everywhere. Heck some of them have even done fake tests over homeopathy and claiming that it works. You literally are no different from anti-vaccinators. You fear something new. Just like your ancestors did fear train, car, book, electricity etc.. Now you're fearing the next step of mankind. Bioindustry, most ironic  thing that you fear the thing most which has most potential to safe the mankind from itself. You fear it because you're religious and it undermines everything you believe into. 
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  14. Ghengis Khan Why the fuck are you talking about nazies all the suddenly? "Please explain this case of 5 million farmers , a class action lawsuit, brought against Monsanto.  " why should I? There can be multiple reasons for that, but the fact is you're not answering my previous points. Also read your own fucking links. They pretty much gave reason why monsanto did sue them. Those seeds were smuggled in. They were illegal seeds. heck even the article writer doesn't understand how global economics works. If farmer makes little money then that 2% is also little money.  I find it funny that this short of stuff happens in poor countries. Countries which are known from low morale and high criminal rates. Ever even bothered to think that maybe the farmers were the bad guys in there?
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  15. boonw and it isn't surprise if some of the "organic" label food actually has GMO in it. And with that I mean intentionally. Seriously even amish people use gmo now. Heck organic has become a trend and most people have no idea what it actually means. Seeing "organic" banana in a shop which is exactly the specie that has been cloned and uses gmo just makes me facepalm. But people are stupid and buy that crap. Seriously they are willingly going into a scam and even defend it extremely :/
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  16. Ghengis Khan I did answer to them, you're not just acknowledging it. It's like I would ask you are you gay or not. Whatever you're gay or not has nothing to do with this debate, as with that lawsuit it has nothing to do with GMO tech. It's a copyright and corporative law issue. And I'm not going to debate whatever copyrights in gene tech is right thing to do. Since our current law system is far behind from the technology. From both sides, internet and biotech. "Secondly, FYI, I never said that "lawyers are evil," so I suggest getting back on your meds as prescribed.  No more spastic swearing before reading what I said. " you sure did imply it. "Who would get arrested? The government officials who passed Iraqi Order Number 81, or the biotech industry which wrote the law? Paul Bremer, since it was signed by him?" I did answer to that question pretty clearly. The people who you claimed to commit a crimes. If there was no crime then you have no case in here. "You claimed before, "that it has nothing to do with GMOs." Please explain, because, if I was forced to burn/ destroy all of my crop seeds to contract with biotech multi-nationals, which are GMO seeds,  I would call that fascism, by the invading force. What do you think? One  more question, since you hate religions so much, and science is what you appear to worship, do you respect any religions? " Tell me, if organic farmer abuses the law and does shady business. Does that mean that it has everything to do with organics? Does it has anything to do with how to create organic products, and are they safe? If you say no, then you should stop talking monsanto and tell what is wrong with GMO instead. "One  more question, since you hate religions so much, and science is what you appear to worship, do you respect any religions?" Never said that I hate, nor do I worship anything. Only religion worth of respect currently is buddhism. And even that is bullshit in my mind. Beside it's more like a philosophy than actual religion. Also it literally nothing to do with gmo topic.
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  17. Ghengis Khan Question wasn't whatever some organics do or not. I was pointing out what if there was organic company which does exactly the same as monsanto with their business practice. Does it mean that all organic is evil? If not then stop pushing monsanto to this discussion. "which needs to be regulated IMO.." Gmo technology is already one of the most regulated  thing that exists on this planet. You have any idea how many tests they are forced to conduct before they are allowed to release their product to markets? Any idea how many years it takes to do that? You won't see it in any other business. For fuck sake they are doing more testings than people do for nuclear facilities before building them.  "Furthermore, you spent plenty of time insinuating and assuming that I am a Christian, " Provide a quote where I have ever said that you're christian. " you brushed that off by saying, in your earlier posts, it has nothing to do with GMOs." because it doesn't. Or are you saying that your religious stance somehow is evidence that GMO is bad? If not then go fuck yourself. ".  I honestly do not care as much about the science of GMOs" Yeah we have noticed that. Which is why you call it frankenstein food and keep talking about souls. "I strongly believe consumers should have a choice on whether to buy GMO products or other food sources." And you have. Buy products with organic label. I have no idea how the fuck you cannot buy the food you want when they even use label to describe it. Only option beside organic and GMO is the farming style where they use heavily pesticides which is harmful to both nature and humans and you should be more worried about that than GMO, which is used so we can use less harmful pesticides or increase taste and nutrition value of the food. " I believe the FDA and USDA, use a double standard for the biotech industry, because anytime any other company changes an ingredient, or adds one, it is required by law to include it in labeling. " The fact that you don't understand how GMO works is reason why you believe so. GMO food does include the ingredients and nutrition value of their foods. GMO itself isn't nutrition or ingredient. Basically you're saying that house is a brick. What do you think food which has label GMO would tell about that food? Does it tell it's nutrition value? Does it tell it's ingredient? It literally tells nothing about it it just tells what technique people used to get that certain breed of plant/animal. "Organic companies own a very small share of the U.S. seed market, like 10 percent, and Monsanto owns 73 % of the corn, and over 90% of the soybeans, "according to commonly accepted knowledge." " Í don't see how this is relevant and that is also attempt to hide the truth about organics. It's still billion dollar business regardless what is its market share. ""according to commonly accepted knowledge.""  what? Are you saying now that common knowledge is source for your information over statistics..? holy shit... " am very aware of Buddhism , due to my study of Yang Tai Chi, for the many years.  I believe the less invasive type of medicine that they practice is the way to go.  They do not have nearly the cancer rates, in China, that we have here. " HAHAHAHA I have heard this bullshit before. First of all buddhism has nothing to do with medicism. It's just way of life. And now it seems that you're also one of those anti-vaccination people who believes in alternative medicine bullshit. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3643656/ Also some science. China has bigger cancer rates in certain type of cancers. Cancer can be caused by pretty much anything, so saying "because of alternative voodo they don't get cancer" doesn't prove anything. In fact cancer rate just means cancers spotted not treated. "I strongly disagree with your assertion that no crimes were committed in Iraq, regarding Iraqi Order Number 81.  If the White House, including the DOJ, gave the green light on this law, then nobody would be arrested.  This law has everything to do with GMOs and you said "It has nothing to do with GMOs."" Holy shit you are stupid as fuck. I SAID IF THERE WERE ANY CRIMES COMMITTED IN THE FUCKING IRAQ AND YOU HAVE CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE OF IT. THEY WOULD BE IN JAIL.  Got it now? I think all caps locks might help you in reading that. "This law has everything to do with GMOs and you said "It has nothing to do with GMOs.""" I'm sorry what does it has to do with genetically manipulating organisms? Are those crimes and laws part of engineering DNA process? If not then get the fuck out. "It is unfortunate , when a superpower invades a country on false pretenses: 9/11, WMDs, nuclear enrichment programs and harboring terrorists. The war was illegal since we did not get attacked by Iraq, but who is going to arrest Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld since White House advisors and lawyers helped draft reasons to attack Iraq." There is no such thing as illegal wars. There is no laws out there saying that you can't got to war. There are only excuses to go to war not crimes to go to war. This proves that you don't even understand war history of the mankind. Have you actually studied anything in your life time beside alternative believes? "It really sounds like you are saying, since nobody went to jail, no crimes were committed. " that is a strawman but whatever it's not like you understand even if I point it out. "Thank you for not dropping F bombs every other paragraph." this did just change.
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  18. boonw By judging his bullet train of sudden comments I can guarantee he has issues. Especially since he took hours to write them. Probably drunk or something.
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  19. Ghengis Khan So after your huge spam and wall of text that is all you can provide back? To my refutation to everything you seem to believe.
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  20. Skepti Cat Actually because of you fucks monsanto did take terminator seed from the markets because you guys cried that those plants should be able to produce naturally without need of buying more for every harvest. Those seeds can be made so that they won't "contaminate". Also your sites have clear bias, not to mention who the fuck thinks russians are smart? Literally corrupted government and people are barely educated.
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  21. Ghengis Khan Can't you even create a reply which is connected to something that has been said before? Oh boy... you really are pathetic aren't you?
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