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@doire7 Also early christians would like to hear that one too.
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@ JuicYouS Also IF THEY WANT FREEDOM SO MUCH. They should fucking oppose sharian laws. Instead support it. That law is stripping their freedom and everyones else freedom in muslim countries MORE than some farmers are forced to farm something else. Talking about freedom of speech here also. Or does monsanto seed hurt Iraq farmer so much, that he needs to kill for it? (costs more then the by products costs too more ;) ). I say discrimation toward women and non muslims is bigger threat than seeds.
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W8 w8 w8..,. wasn't Islam whole religion trying to conquest whole world? Hard to beleave if muslims make offensive jihad toward USA (in this case) and there are muslims in army, that they would actually defend USA. They would be most likely happy to see sharian laws applying in USA. As we all (well should know) Sharian law is against human rights. Islam is political religion, lucky for us there are muslims that are not so into in being in Islam.
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@Xaklyth Erm Communism is not scary word... IF you look at jesus he did prety much suport idea of communism... share wealth ideology. Point was democracy is not from bible. OH I don't pretend it to be there. I know its there. That is what jews beleave not christians. Christians do not see any good reason to do that kind of stuff anymore. Read new testament. Also we were talking about just sec ago about is christianity politic religion. You still haven't accepted point.
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@Xaklyth It's not blank statement... Fact that sharian law is in muslim countries prety much proves how much they "care" about other people. As I said earlier I'm glad that not every muslim are like this.
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Well at least "freedom" is not telling us to kill anything. Also that freedom belongs to all... I say it is probadly best reason to fight and die for. Unlike religious ones... where they don't actually have any rational evidence that their religion is real one. Now if you start talking "what about religious freedom" You can beleave in god, I don't care... AS LONG YOU ARE NOT GOING to discriminate, kill and take other peoples freedom away because of your "god". This is what Islam is doing atm
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@Nolanfan26 Unless I remember wrong.. Crusade was about making pillgrims avaible to go safely Jerusalem. Not destroying Islam. Also these crusades were pope's "orders". Actually they were instead destroying islam they did liberate them from Hussein. They still allow Islam in their own nation... they still allow islam in IRAQ. Only idiot would say they are trying to destroy Islam, if they don't watch what is going. ISLAM on other hand tries to destroy every other religion, and says this openly
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@Xaklyth Even with your logic... why should then "christian" nation then have muslim soliders fighting war against muslims. Ye point made, makes no sense. Islam is for my knowledge worst popular religion that is in this world, and I consider Quran as biger threat than Bible.
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Well those Iraq farmers had not much of freedom during reing of sadam. Well When terrorist attack happens I say "most caused to civilians attack over last day". Also Civilians die always in war. One of the reasons why they die in Iraq is because Iraq solidears/rebels, do use civilian clothes, so that soliders wouldn't shoot them. One of the many reasons. At least they are not capturing Iraq women as slaves and force them to mary em. This is how Islam acts.
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@Nolanfan26 First nolanfan, my first language is not english. Second, In muslim perspective we are not innocent. To every other religion, muslims started persecution of all other religions since it started. Lol tries to destroy by conversion? That is what every religion does. Islam however DOES NOT SUPORT conversion. In otherwords it is beleave or die(well you can live as second class citizen too). Í didn't insult you (at least directly) and you are insulting me.
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@Xaklyth Well bible lireralists also know that they go to heaven, no mater what they do... just beleave in jesus. Jesus does not at least command to hurt other people. Also Christianity is not political religion THERE IS DIFFERENT. Well check news what is happening in europe... at least in UK. Also most of muslims live in countries where sharian law IS, and also SUPORTS it. In other words they are using it. Ye most of the muslims in western nations are not like these... and I'm glad for it
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So you say it BECAME goverment after constantine accepted it... well tell me what was it before it? What was the christianity ITSELF (teachings, and stuff) before it? Was it goverment? No it wasn't. Quran in other hands tells people to make these kinds of goverments that abuse other people.
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@Xaklyth Nah sharian law are Laws that Quran commands. Catholic laws? Let's talk Christian laws. Ten commandments at least and teachings of jeesus. Doesn't say that you should cut thiefs hand, doesn't tell that women need 4 MALE wittneses, if se wants to report that she was raped. Those were just few examples of many injustice that they have. Breaking human rights... that is what is wrong. Also most of the muslims, beleave that sharian law should be in every country.
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@Xaklyth Christianity itself does not tell you to make goverment and follow rules that it has made. Democracy is not christianity. Communism is much closer option. Also Islam is also Form of goverment, and it also say prety clearly in their holy book how should goverment work. Unfortunally Christians have some power in politics. This is why religion should be separeted from goverment, but their bible does not tell form of goverment. It tells how people should live (like ALMOST every religion).
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Nothing is stopping for any religion to form any goverment... but religion itself is not Telling you to do this kind of goverment, unlike Quran does.
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@Nolanfan26 Oh and USA did not conquest Iraq and said it is not christian or part of USA dominance... please englight me, if they said so. Muslims on other hand does like this... also forces it's views to people living in muslim countries. Big difference you know.
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Parts of it... and from many sources checked also what does Quran say and tell... Even asked some muslims about it. Though these muslims are different from those who live under sharian law. Don't get my point wrong.. I don't hate muslims. I hate that religion. Actually same goes for all abrahamic religions.
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@Xaklyth I KNOW IT IS IN THERE. BUT NEW TESTAMENT PRETY MUCH says that "turn other cheeck" and "beleave in me and you get into the heaven". Which means you DO NOT NEED TO KILL ANYONE in name of the GOD. Geesh Still YOU HAVEN'T made point to say that christianity is political religion. Christianity itself is not form of goverment. Laws christianity has are personal. Seriously you start sounding like fundamental christian. Go and read new testament. I'm not a christian and I still know this much.
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Erm... You know that if politic is beleaves in buddha,.. that doesn't mean Buddhism is form of goverment. Learn the fucking difference. IT would be different if jesus would have said like this... All nations should live under democratic order.
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