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@Zangief The Red Yet you cannot refute anything I had said.
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@Zangief The Red All I see is that you're here bitching and crying about that you just got owned by me.
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@Ffkslawlnkn "it seems you have no idea what kind of private property marx wanted to overthrow, and it seems you didn't really get what the 'dictatorship of the proletariat" So far you have only said "you are wrong, I'm right" without demonstrating that I'm wrong. History is on my side. Every time communism/marxism/socialism has been tried. It has always lead into same sort of government. Mass murdering and oppressive regimes. That is the truth of marxism. Idiots might not realize it, but intelligent marxist know it. And the reason intelligent ones support is. Is because they are psychos who think that they will be the ones leading and oppressing others once revolution is done.
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@Ffkslawlnkn "abolition of private property and some brutal dictatorship. " All is in his manifesto. He literally stated there. "fact is that you have no idea about what private property means" Yet none of the communists or socialists were capable to actually define it in way that doesn't apply to literally everything. "as a dictatorship by our definition." He literally did advocate for dictatorship of proletarians and explained in details what it means. Aka working class oppressing all the other classes until class distinguishing features would disappear and everyone would act and think the same.
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@Mister.Braddock In part where he talks about persecuting wealthy and killing them during and after revolution.
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@Mister.Braddock So him talking about how the revolutions of the past were used to achieve what he wants, and how similar one should be made again... Doesn't advocate for mass murder? Even though revolutions he refereed had mass murders happening? Dude... Read the fucking manifesto. There is a reason why literally every socialist and communist society on this planet has committed mass murders. :D
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@Mister.Braddock No you haven't. Where in the manifesto he advocated for peaceful "revolution"? Where in book he advocated for live and let live? No where, instead he was talking about tyranny and forcing others. So again, go back to cave. Socialist and communist are nothing but bunch of psychos.
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@Mister.Braddock Oh I knew your true nature long before I even saw Sargon on youtube. You see... I love studying philosophy and history. There is nothing more viler than socialism and communism on this planet. Go to a shrink, you need some serious help. Before you start killing people in name of the most retarded ideology on the planet.
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@Mister.Braddock PJW who? To study history? Rofl... I actually read history from history books and history lectures. Same with philosophy. Anyway, it's funny how you still don't deny that you wish to kill people. Psychos without any substance. That's what you people are.
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@whitetuxmafiaandfilms5042 You say so, yet you are incapable to demostrate it.
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@chavdarnaidenov2661 Well that's what marx's books were. Propaganda booklets.
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@chavdarnaidenov2661 You're not refuting anything I had said. So long as you fools fail to address my arguments, is as long as you all look like total tools.
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@chavdarnaidenov2661 Then you should have pressed "reply" to his comment, instead of tagging me.
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@SuperResnick I'm astonished that you read marx and still support that wife beater who never did any honest work in his lifetime.
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@SuperResnick Problem here isn't not just his sick character, but his ideas also are terrible. I have done multiple time debates about this and crushed around thousand of communists. Just getting bored now and appealing to the emotions. After all... That is the only thing that you savages will listen. "Please provide proof of Marx never doing any "honest work in his lifetime"." Google it up. He lived his whole life with the money that his capitalist friend provided for free.
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@SuperResnick You know, like debating with thousands of creationists. You will eventually see the pattern. They refuse to change their stance due their religious attitude. For communists and socialists their marxist belief is their religion. Since all socialists and communists are dishonest, so it's better that I don't write essay in here. Instead in order to avoid you from changing goal post (literally every far leftie does that whenever someone tries to pinpoint what they actually mean with socialism/communism). I want you to post here how the society that you advocate for would run. I'm not asking you to tell me what it's goals are. I'm asking you how it would actually organize itself. After that I will proceed and demonstrate all the flaws in your system.
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@SuperResnick Marx way was already tried in soviets. It ended up as disasters. They followed communist's manifesto by the book. So you admit that you are supporting ideology that you are totally clueless about.
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@SuperResnick If you had a clue, then you could've already state how your society is build. As long as you cant answer and give your example of such society. Then by default no one should ever vote for someone who advocates socialism/communism. "Marxism is a wide range of thought within philosophy, economic analysis and scientific theories" Cop-out. It's still a fact that soviets followed his manifesto by the book. Also marx strawmanned capitalism since he didn't even understand economics. He never did any real work and never studied economics. Hence distorted view. Which is why all of his predictions went wrong.
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@SuperResnick 1. Judging by this we can conclude that you have no reason to support any Marxist idea since you can't even fathom what sort of society should be build. 2. It's cop-out when you are using it as attempt to avoid answering the question. As I said before... Far lefties are dishonest. Always trying to weasel out. "Socialists can neutralize the problems of Leninism and keep the good ideas by using foresight." HAHAHAH what a joke, if they could use foresight they wouldn't be socialists in the first place. 3. Extremely correct, since he was stupid enough to think that one can only be rich by someone else being poor. He thought that economics is a zero sum game. Marx was an fool and his followers even bigger ones.
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@SuperResnick He has explained it and it has been explained it. Free people are able to generate solutions to problems they have even without government. That has been empirically proven. It's basically natural selection of ideas. While communism and socialism both rely on having political elite class that does decisions for you. Which has been proven empirically to be a bad idea. You see since you are not that bright I need to explain this to you in detail... You are advocating for totalitarian government. Hence you should be able to actually explain how such government would be build and how it actually functions. I don't really need to explain how free society should function, do I? After all.. I'm not the one who is proposing central planning. "Explain to me in what way did I avoid the question. " When people say that soviets weren't true marxists or communists. Then pointing out that everything that marx demanded communist uprising to do, was done. Manifesto was fulfilled. You are being dishonest when you bring up "but there are some other people with different definition". That is irrelevant to the point. Once again I have proven that you can never trust a socialists. 3. He actually did use them, especially when talking about the conditions they lived in. "In essence the capitalist class needs the working class in order to exist. " Not really, you can have your own company and be the sole person working there. You can also use drones and robots. Not to mention that it's in truth... The working class that needs capitalists. Since they are the ones with brains and drive to actually do something else than drink their brains out. "I would appreciate if you would respond to one of them but the topic changes. " That is literally what you have been doing all the time. You refuse to actually state how your society should be run. That is because you know fully well that you would get destroyed the moment you even try. As I said before... You guys are nothing but psychopaths trying to find excuse to kill others.
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@SuperResnick Remember what I said earlier in this thread? That I will predict that you will leave the moment you lost the debate. Psycho's like you who want to kill others to get their stuff deserve 0 respect. Sources need to be provided only when being asked. And in my experience it's pointless. Socialists never check them, they just do what you do now. However none of you have ever refuted any argument of mine. And no, I'm not stupid enough to add some psycho to my discord. I work enough in IT to know the security risks concerned over it and I know fully well that you people are psychopaths. You want discussion? We can do it here. If you keep insisting on discord it will just prove your true colors. So judging by your comment, I can take this as a win.
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@robertocaesar Actually context was that people were still living under feudalism and mercantilism. They were just about to switch from societies based on farming into industrialization. Actually marx didn't believe in democracy. Read his manifesto. He openly advocated for tyranny of the working class. Also it's crazy. So many stupid ideas in it. " You must have a context and stop getting scared by history. " Within in context of the manifesto he was talking about violent revolutions where anyone having opposite opinion would be murdered. "you have to learn the ideas not the surface propaganda. " OH boy... If I would believe in the propaganda then I would be agreeing with you lot. However I don't. I'm not a sheep like you are. I actually can refute whole communism/socialism on philosophical ground easily. Not to mention that empirically speaking... It has always failed. Simply put... You people advocate murderous ideology, but then again... You don't care. Since that is basically viagra for incels like you.
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@chinaski2020 Just like one can read whole bible without believing it's non-sense. One can read everything marx wrote and still see it as BS.
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@chrism415 no Sampo is correct. You do not understand anything. You guys don't even know how NATO actually functions and that it's defensive allience.
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@LeeLee-BB I don't mind if Ruzzkiez attack us. That would only help UKR in their wareffort against you evil people.
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@wrongthinker843 That's literally how people did hunt bears in the past.
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@tadhgcronin175 literally nothing but defensive pact. Maybe you shouldn't attack nato country if you don't want to have war with them?
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@jmwoods190 In NATO's rule only obligation is to defend each others. Nothing else. If it were something else then they would be obligated to invade no matter what. This is not the case. Read the bloody rules of the agreement.
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I'm literally qualified to be genius by official tests. You however... not. This is right decision anyone saying otherwise doesn't have much brain activity going on.
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@nickfury8973 usa has nothing to do with this. NATO isn't USA. USA is just one member nation that is part of it and isn't even currently leading the allience.
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@SandHanitizer69 decisions in nato are done by vote and each country has same voting power. Thus NATO isn't USA.
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@nickfury8973 Yeah and you keep with your delusions that nato is USA. But do a world a favor. Go to the frontline as proud "bulletsponge" for ruzzian facists. We already have too many mouthbreathers on this planet.
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@SandHanitizer69 no they don't. They literally have nothing they could use to force voting. That is why they aren't even being the head of organization
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@matthewitt2276 anyone with IQ over 100 knows that nukes are good way to keep evil ruzzkiez away.
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ever noticed how no country with nuclear weapons have ever been attacked by another nation? It's our national intrest to have nukes. Ruzkiez wouldn't dare to nuke us if we can nuke them as well.
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@jairkerker2821 nuke is what people call as equalizer. All those 144.5 mil will be easily gone by shooting one nuke to every ruzkie city.
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@theriverschool822 lol stop lying. Ruzzkiez are for global domination. Only thing standing between their and khinese evil plan is NATO.
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@aritakalo8011 every law can be changed and in this case we should. Nuclear weapon law was made to please ruzzkiez while leaving us vurnenable for their invasion which they have been planning to do next after ukraina
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Social security is not socialism in any manner.
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@alkestos you do realize that it would be practically same as they would be nuking themselves? Were too close to be nuclear targets.
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@alkestos has to have low IQ if you stand by ruzzkiez side.
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@mykehog6646 lol what? Okay then please explain huge ruzzian army and mobilized troops in Okraine if Ruzzkiez didn't start the war?
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@alexsilent5603 USA did literally nothing .USA started war in there as much as Britain started WW2. Ruzzkiez are evil
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@corneliussulla9963 NATO didn't topple any government there and even if it did... how is it asking for war again? No seriously... what is your justification for war just because government isn't licking your boots like a slave?
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@alexsilent5603 That's a lie and you know it is. 1. It's not ruzzkiez business on what happens in domestic policies in other countries. Thus it doesn't justify the invasion. 2. The parliament just elected out corrupted official. 3. It's not dictatorship, thus it cannot be coup. President doesn't own the country. And he was caught on corruption and cheating in election. None of this is justification on actions that your people had done.
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Good the moment Putin fires nukes in here, whole world will destroy ruzzia forever with shower of nukes. If Helsinki needs to be sacrificed for destruction of evil ruzzkiez... then that's the price I'm willing to pay.
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@sampohonkala4195 to be precise... Our response was "you can only blame yourself".
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@vesakaitera2831 actually there was never rebelion. They were all ruzzkie troops in the first place. Every captured troop was found out that they were part of ruzzian army. Just think this logically. There is noway that civilians would be able to have fully organized and functional army and equipment in couple days after "protest". It's simply put impossible to organize that fast.
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@js70371 Turkey literally said that they will ratify Finland and Hungary has confirmed as well. The issue is will sweden get in. Also ruzzkiez are onjly warmongerers on this planet
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@jtking666 that's fine, only 4% of our energy came from Ruzzian sources so we are just fine without ruzzkiez
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