Comments by "Tespri" (@Tespri) on "Muslims Are Going to Kill Us" video.

  1. This is why criticising any religion shouldn't be taboo. What makes religion so special that it can't be criticised? Especially since whole definition of religion is vague as fuck.
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  2. +Nilesh Kumaraswamy Many who are now in center or right, used to be in left. We saw how left became regressive.
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  3. +Myke Alien I haven't heard much xenophobia toward asians. Also muslim is not a race. It's collective of ideas and laws. Tell me, in WW 2. Would you not be suspicious toward people who are openly nazies who want to move to your country while you're still having war against german?
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  4. Padraig O'Connor Some of them are. Religion doesn't care about race.
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  5. mochronik War in Syria wasn't started by USA. Syria is a very mixed situation. And you trying to plead on emotions doesn't counter my argument at all. So if you would have nazies claiming that they are running away from war. Wouldn't you still be suspicious? "How can you fucking compare them to NAZIS...are you fucking nuts?" I'm not saying they are nazies, I'm using nazies as example of group you're in war with and has idealogue that you most likely despise, due it being harmful. On side note comparing muslims to nazies isn't that far off. They are well known from hating jews, and breaking human rights. "WELLL OVER 90% of people killed by Daesh/ISIS are...wait for it...MUSLIM" And? You think that makes Islam peaceful religion, that might not have any harmful ideas inside of that might encourage them to do such things? "for fucks sake stop being an ignorant fuc" Read a book, I recommend Quran. 
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  6. Padraig O'Connor It's hard to tell when someone is joking and not through internet. Especially when there are people who actually make such claims.
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  7. Pirabee religions overall are problematic. Islam just happens to have more problems than others.
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  8. Evidentialist SJW people don't care. They only care if it's "white cis male" who does it.
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  9. Mario Pendic You are dealing with cultural relativist... They are the worst. They are the type who can't deal with evidence nor logic.
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  10. eqsmooth I have looked it's definition, but the moment church of flying spaghetti monster became official religion. The whole idea of religion went out of the window.
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  11. +Abnormal Wrench According to SJW warriors in the left believe that all muslims are brown.
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  12. ***** How come I'm racists now? I know Islam doesn't give a shit about race. Me pointing out that left thinks that they are are brown on basis of calling people racists who criticise Islam. I don't see why right winger can't be social justice warrior. It simply happens to be that SJW are mostly on left.
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  13. FrostyFlameTV Correct, but I don't see why right wing member can't call someone racists. Didn't we see right wing media call trump as racists?
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  14. ***** "You're racist because you mentioned race and/or racism in any context.  Hello?" What? This makes no sense. Are you trolling in here? You simply cannot say that someone is racists by saying that some people believe that muslims are brown. "You may not be capable of thinking.....of a reason why right-wingers couldn't be SJW's....that is a fascinating delving into your mental capabilities....but how about a list of right wing SJW's?" Do you understand what right wing even is? Do you understand what political spectrums are?
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  15. ***** Poe's law. I have seen multiple idiots who are like you acted and were sincere about it. Google poe's law already. 
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  16. ***** SJW people rarely have brains. Seen even more ridiculous claims. 
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  17. mochronik There is no such thing as radical Islam. There is fundamental Islam. And if something in religion's fundamentals tell people to do fucked up stuff. Then that religion is fundamentally fucked up. Also still waiting for you to respond to rest of my points.
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  18. Myke Alien "Well if you haven't heard about xenophobia towards Asians you should brush up on your history. " Nope nothing about asians. Only about certain country during war against them. you know second world war. Could you please tell one xenophobic stereotype european had toward asians?  "Lastly of course you would be suspicious of a German during world war 2 moving to the us. But that is because most Germans at the time were Nazis they affiliated with the Nazi party. " Now if you understand Islam is religious and political group same time. You would understand my point. "When you talk about Islamic fundamentalism you are talking about a fraction of muslims." Literally large majority of muslims support and want to have sharia law. What you fail to understand that warriors of Islam are only fraction. "From what ive seen from my research there are 184,000 known terrorist in the world and even that number is a but inflated. There are 2.2 billion Muslims. That is about .0001 percent of the Muslim population. So this hyper paranoia of all Muslims being extremists are completely based in conjecture." This is because you fail to understand nature of warfare and Islam.
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  19. Myke Alien You still haven't named a single stereotypical xenophobic stereotype. "Well the chinese exclusion act was pretty important." What year? If you mean during cold war, then you missed totally out that china was communistic nation and communists tried their best to infiltrate societies in order to incident rebellions. Nothing to do with race. As with japan. So nothing xenophobic there. Simply realities of war. And you blame west for being careful how to let people in from countries they were in war with? Just listen to yourself. Other responses aren't vague at all.
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  20. Myke Alien "What do you mean by stereotypical xenophobic stereotype." Do you understand what xenophobia is? Do you understand what phobias are? You could say that it's xenophobic stereotype toward black people because they are violent and criminals (stereotype). What bad can you say about asians in stereotype way? "The chinese exclusion act was passed in 1875 and perpetuated the racist ideological stances of the US at the time. " need more details than this. These laws are rarely made on basis on pure race. "And being careful would be reasonable. " So you agree that during WW 2 japanese being in camps until war ends was reasonable reaction? "But that is not how the us addresses the problem of Islamic extremism. We attempt to address it with mass hysteria of how dangerous all Muslims are." It's not about how all muslims are. It's about what Islam is, and what it does to a person who is seriously religious. "Donald trump says we should ban all Muslims which how that would work is beyond me. " Ban from immigrating to USA. It's different from saying that muslims in USA should already been banned. Don't believe what left wing media spouts at you. Go to the sources. " And if you aren't willing to explain your other points im fine with that because it just proves you can't actually defend them." there is nothing to explain since you don't go in detail which one of them you didn't get. I don't like to repeat myself when points were clear as sky.
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  21. Mario Pendic You sure you did respond to right person? Who did say that quote? Though on side note, early christians were pretty much opposite of early muslims. They were pretty much pacifists until catholic church came into power.
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  22. Myke Alien > says that was nice conversation and is now done with it. > makes 2 more comments after it. "The evacuation of 120,000 residents of Japanese descent from the West Coast was pretty much saying that our constitution means nothing. " Actually constitution justified that action.  "These people were AMERICAN CITIZENS. " No they were people who just moved into america or were first generation people. Both can be easily be acting as spies. In fact in japan some ninja families did infiltrate their opposing factions for many generations. I'm not saying these guys were ninjas. But I'm saying that infiltration is still possible with generation that fresh. " Think about that these people who were US citizens were stripped of their rights because of their ethnicity. " Because of their country. You didn't see any vietnamese in those camps did you? " No German or people of Italian descent were detained no only Japanese. " Actually nazies were. The thing you fail to comprehend that the connection needs to be fresh. "I really don't think you understand what fundamentalism means my friend. The ku klux klan was a christian fundementalist group." No it was christian group but not fundamentalists. Do you understand what fundamental means? Now please explain what part of not turning your other cheek was not fundamental of christianity? What part of forgiving your enemies wasn't fundamental of christian teachings? " In Myanmar Buddhist attack Muslims in the streets. So what do you mean they are pacifists. So what are you talking about?" Literally 0 piece in buddhists literature that justifies violence on any level. Those  buddhists didn't attack because they were buddhists. They attacked because they hated muslims who attacked them. But hey for retards like you self defence is wrong. Cuckolds... "So what do you mean they are pacifists. So what are you talking about?" Buddhism teaches pacifists. The fact that not all buddhists are pacifists doesn't change that fact. "There are 184,000 known terrorist in the world and there are 1.7 billion Muslims. " That depends on your definition of terrorism. Also your muslim count keeps changing. "Just don't let people in who affiliate with Islam. Well they can just say THEY ARENT MUSLIMS. " That is why background checks exists you dimwit. "That's every religion not just Islam you are just refusing to admit it." I'm not saying that religions are good. All I'm saying that Islam is partially more violent and hateful than others. "Why are pretending that Islamic moderates dont exist. " Name even one moderate who doesn't believe that sharia law is best law. "Terrorism is what the majority of Muslims don't agree with. " Majority muslims agree with sharia law. Terrorism is actually least of your problems. " Sharia law is an entirely different discussion. You keep bringing up sharia law but that isnt what im talking about. " That is exactly what you should talk about if you understood what that means.  IT means that people you consider "moderates" aren't moderates at all. " Xenophobia towards Muslims is because for some reason we think they are all terrorist. " again phobia is irrational fear of something. How is it irrational to fear religion that teaches that people like you should be killed?
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  23. Mario Pendic I'm talking about early christians. You know the ones who refused to fight in arenas when they were thrown in there. When you talk about christianity and violence, you're talking about crusades caused by reaction of catholic church against muslim aggression that had lasted for centuries. After that the persecution done by catholic church were not approved by scriptures, it was simply corrupted regime trying to stay in power with tooth and nail. However Carlos is wrong by thinking that all religions are equal, and there is nothing bad in them.  Even with pacifist attitude, there are plenty wrong with christianity.
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  24. ***** "because myths do not arise from a culture" Myths and religions are part of the culture. You're trying to argue over semantics. You're still being relative over religious rules and teachings even though evidence contradict you. Myths can arrive anywhere. One can make a prank and create myth out of it for someone.  You're trying to argue that all religions are equal because they all came from unconscious mind.
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  25. Mario Pendic "The witch burnings and halting of scientific research and the dogma of Catholic church" All done by catholic church. All actions that contradict the teachings of Jesus. It was all possible because common man could not read latin. This is why things changed fast after invention of printing press and translating bible to language of natives. Which allowed it's real teachings to be known by common people. This is where catholic church started to lose it's power and it couldn't pull off same atrocities anymore. What you forget, that before catholic churches there were christians. These are the people who are referred as early christians. " that it brought about was definitely Christian doctrine being implemented. " Oh like how christian shouldn't give a fuck about government and follow it's law as it's said?  Or how they are told to forgive their enemies and love them? "You are using the "not a true Christian" rhetoric. " No, I'm using rhetoric that catholic church went against teachings of new testament.  "The difference is christianity has reformed into secular governments l" which was only possible after bible was translated and distributed to common people. IT was only possible when they noticed that catholic church was full of crap. They were no longer the sole owners of "the truth". Hence they had to be more lenient than before.
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  26. ***** I have read a lot of philosophy, religion, history and psychology. Happen to be one of my favorites things on this world beside sex and gaming.  you so far seem to be one of those pseudo-scientists types of people. On what grounds you say that all religions are equal?
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  27. Mario Pendic "no they don't. the bible specificly state to not suffer a witch to live and specific doctrines that allow for opposition of basic sexual education" Old testament said that. New testament made old testament rules more like a moral guide lines instead of laws to be enforced. After all according to christianity everyone get's to heaven as long as they believe in jesus. Which is something I doubt that you would disagree with. Difference is, those who follow old rules personally, and will be called as great in heaven while those who do what the fuck they want are called least. "Common man could read what the texts say and espouse. you are now trying to pretend that nobody in early christianity was ever a "true" Christian. Kind of like how muhammad wasn't literate either huh?" Are you saying that early christians got it wrong, but catholic church's got it right? That's like saying that early muslims got it wrong, when they were spreading islam with sword. "Doesn't say that. yes Christianity and government " It actually says it. People tried to make jesus to incident jews to rebel against romans. But jesus always flat out denied them that. Remember him stating laws of men and laws of god? Christianity was formed into religion of cuckolds. " In fact throughout it states that those who aren't with you are against you and Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other." Now you're quote mining. As atheist to atheist. Have you ever checked the context of said quotation? I recommend to go and read whole section and then come back and say that you still think like this. I believe you should be mentally mature enough to realize your mistake by then, as I did when I did check the context in the past. "He has "come not to send peace, but a sword" " Context, read it. "eternal hell and death for homosexuals as well as explicit endorsement of slavery and more. " Well he wasn't against slavery that is for sure. However homosexuals were still able to get heaven as long as they did believe in him and accept him as savior. That was the whole fucking point of him coming to earth. To make new pact with humans. "he Catholic church follows their reading of the bible which includes the new testament moron. You don't get to decide who is and isn't a " true Christian" " And you do? "Nobody noticed the church was "crap" they held back scientific advancements and catholicism was and still is a major role in the population of Christians. " Already forgot Martin luther?  "You are nothing but a Christian apologist." I'm atheist you idiot... I'm surprised that you still can't fucking recognize my name since we have talked before, and have both commented on same atheist channels we both are subscribed to.
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  28. Mario Pendic "again, no. Jesus states not to ignore anything as he came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it and no jot will be ignored until heaven and earth pass away. " I never said about people should ignore old laws. I said it to become moral guideline. This is why you ignored the part where he describes people who break them and people who follow them. "No. I said that we don't know who "got it right" they all cherry pick parts and claim to be the "true" followers. It's not that hard to understand. " Now you're sounding like that idiot you're arguing with. "Early mislim were not spreading it. " Immediately after death of mohammed they started to wage wars. "I said that Christianity has verses encouraging the separation of religion and state." Why then mention if you agreed with me? "Yes I have. The text states it clearly. Jesus has stated this in his own speech and that you should love him more than any family member. Maybe instead of being the apologist, you actually read what it says. " But you failed to comprehend it clearly. It didn't mean war or killing people or anything like that. It was simply that people should follow his words instead of anyone's else.  And again I'm atheists not apologist. "! It clearly condemns homosexuals and calls for the death of them. Jesus IS the same fucking person/ god as the old. " Where in new testament he calls death of homosexuals. In his own words. "You don't have one without the other. you either reject the original sin story or not. You don't get to cherry pick. " Yeah keep on forgetting what new testament means. "What the hell does he have to do with anything? His anti-semetic views didn't help either" Who and what? Please provide quotations so I'm aware what you're addressing. "I'm surprised that you use the same Christian apologetic arguments yet you demonize Islam as if it has no merit. " Because Islam and christianity are fundamentally different. There is nothing in Islam that gives people freedom to not follow rules of ISlam. "well early Christians weren't really Christians therefore killing witches wasn't Christian" is something not even Christian apologists will say. " You still mix catholich to actual early christians. Do you have any idea how christianity was before it became official religion of state in rome? What wars you remember them having before it? What part of them refusing to fight in arena even if they would end up dead you didn't get? "Unfortunately your overt hatred of one religion leaves you completely delusional of another" Moronic thing to say. I hated christianity before Islam. However unlike you, I don't let my hatred to blind me. "Oh and no. Homosexuals don't get to magically go to heaven" What part of sins getting forgetted you didn't get? " you don't have any good understanding of these basic tenets and denominations. " Clearly you didn't read any of my words if you still think that I'm christian. I'm starting to think that all the pot you have been smoking has actually reduced your IQ.
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  29. Mario Pendic "it became moral pronouncements and how one should live. That is the entire bible.  so you can tell who is and isn't a true Christian? I'd love to hear this." Old testament had set of rules which should be used in order to form government. They were laws, not moral rules back then. True christian? I don't think you understand what that means. What I'm saying that some people clearly haven't followed the teachings of jesus. For example if you try to get revenge, you're not really following his words. I give you better example Who are you to say that gay guy is not straight if he says he is straight, while fucking another guy in the ass? "I said early Islam. Meaning mecca. During that time muhammad was not violent. " You already forgot that all muslims actions are based on teachings and commandments of muhammed? Already forgot how he took mecca via force? " Christianity also spread with a sword for many years and caused wsrs." That is same argument as saying that atheism was spread with genocide and communism. Both claims including yours false in some way. It's true that communistic regime did spread atheist through force and genocides. It's also through that some christians did spread christianity via force. But neither christianity nor atheism condones such actions. Those actions are done outside of those ideologies and beliefs. "I mention it because it shows your lack of nuance. "Islam = evil and Christianity = good" is not a valid way to approach anything.." When have I ever said that christianity is good? I said multiple times during our conversation that christianity is still fucked up. Is it cognitive dissonance here preventing you from reading my text? "I never used the words war or killing people. That verse specifically encourages divisiveness which allows people to shun family members and passages encourage faith healing as well. " Given in context you did actually use it to justify wars and killing people. Or did you already forget the comment I made you created that as response? " That is like arguing early Muslims weren't really Muslims because we now have different sects." Sect difference is based on who is the leader of Islam. Not that much really on their doctrine. "Catholics are Christians. " True but you fail to understand that they follow pope with authority. Pope that can be corrupted. Pope that can make ćommands without any support from the bible. For example crusades wouldn't have ever happened if he followed the rule of "turn your other cheek". Same time if that would've never happened, then we all would've been muslims now. " Nobody disputes the violence in early Christianity. Only you are. " You're still so fucking stupid that you think that catholics were first christians. "look up " wars Christianity" it's not hard. Tone down your hatred for Islam and be objective." Again crusades can go fuck themselves. Were talking about early christians. Not a fuckign medieval period of them. They were literally in the fucking middle. Not early. "No you clearly have a strong bias. " no you have a clear bias. You like to believe that all religions are equal, unless they have absolutely 0 death count. you think they all support killing if individual happens to kill someone while being part of that group. You're collectivist, you fail to understand what individuals are. "Nowhere does it say " sins of the homosexual will he forgiven" I'm fact I just gave you the fucking quote that says that." But it does say that he died for our sins. Soooo... homosexuality is sin...  Got it now idiot? " It is in the bible and makes it all that immoral. " You do realize that muslims believe in bible too? They have their own version of it though, and they still believe in concept of hell. "None of the denominations view homosexuality as some great moral deed. " Strawman, I never claimed such thing. Yep so far I have been right. It seems that you don't even read what I say. Calm your shit and actually read them instead of act like a fucking monkey.
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