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Adrian If socialists understood about economics, then they wouldn't be socialists in the first place.
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@niyiboots3641 Socialists don't like to donate their own money, they like to force other people to donate for them.
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@niyiboots3641 He owned 17 county estates, totaling more than 100,000 acres, in addition to liquid assets of 550 million stored in various international banks. Source Noticias Centro.
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@rileymiller7786 Lol what? I didn't say anything nationalistic. You do realize that I'm from Finland? Which is why I'm using Finland as example because I'm more aware of our government's spending. Seriously... You just got totally owned by me showing the math that what you advocate is not sustainable at all, and then you resort into ad hominem.
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@rileymiller7786 Because then I would be arguing against video, not about you. You clearly don't understand anything you're talking about if you're linking me some random youtuber's video as "argument". You really think that video made by propaganda artists would change my mind? okay, I watch the video and then come back and laugh at your face.
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@AnonYMouse-ky4sg "disagree no countries would exist without strong defensive spending." Name a country that has continued existing without military protection. ". It requires another country to attack you." And what makes better target for opposing country to attack you than not having defensive forces? " There are many reasons why they wouldn't. " literally 0 reasons why they wouldn't attack if they know that they can get away with it. "It's my opinion that military threats from nations are overblown." I'm living right next to a country who just invaded ukraine. ". The real issue is civil/religious war, terrorism, and organized crime related, and that accounts for most if not all conflict in the world. " Seems like I'm dealing with teenager. you're world view is so shallow. It wasn't about that there won't be poor. It was about getting people free from welfare dependency.
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@AnonYMouse-ky4sg Happiness index, the one which you all have citated before. Google it up. Also only idiot thinks that happiness is same as quality of life. When you don't know anything better you can feel happy of your current situation. Hence it's extremely subjective.
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@AnonYMouse-ky4sg "Just because Finland is 0.1 higher than the US doesn't discount the fact that AS A WHOLE Nordic countries' suicide rates are below America's." You're twisting the narrative in here. You can't just look at them as a whole, since they are very different from each others. If as individual they show difference in suicide rate, then it already points out that it isn't the welfare system that makes them happy. "Having 0.1 higher suicide rates compared to much higher freedom and happiness is a non factor." Actually it's very big factor when were talking about happiness. How can country with extremely high suicide rate be counter as happy? "The USA has a bigger population size but also A BIGGER ECONOMY, the #1 in the world in fact. We can afford to do it MORE than Finland can." Actually that economy of yours is based on how much more population USA has. When we actually take into account population difference... Then the economy of USA isn't that great. Also, it would literally double your current spending. Not even with 100% of taxation on the rich you could afford it. "What does providing medical knowledge, techniques, and tech have to do with healthcare INSURANCE? " Because those are paid by the healthcare system. Prices are also high due the fact that they use that money to develop. "Even if we don't talk about insurance, 88% of Finnish respondents were satisfied with their healthcare's quality of service when surveyed. " Never asked me, nor did they ask my family members who died due public healthcare purposefully avoiding doing proper check ups. "So you're full of shit, and I doubt you're Finnish." Voin mä puhua suomeeki jos et usko. Vielläpä slangilla.
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@AnonYMouse-ky4sg 1. That is the topic what there was. Why argue over happiness if welfare is not part of it? 2. You're kind of proving my point. These are countries where more people feel unhappy to the point that they rather kill themselves. 3. You're mixing up GDP with wealth of the nation, or the people who live in there. It's easy to increase gdp artificially. And Finland can't afford it. What part of being in debt you forgot? "We are not okay with thousands dying every year due to falling into " And even more die if your policies would be implement due whole economy collapsing. "being afraid of going to the doctor for preventative procedures." HAHAHAHAH you're an idiot you know that right? You do realize that public healthcare doesn't provide preventative procedures. You get treated basically only when you cough blood and it's too late at that point. "You're immoral if you like our system. " demonizing opponent. I'm pretty sure that I have donated more money to charities when I were poor, than you in your whole life time. 5. That would be you. That is why you rely on statistics that are poorly done. 6. "There's no way a Fin would be claiming America can't have single payer healthcare insurance when every other industrialized nation in the world has it." Unless they actually have studied economics and know how to count. Also no... Not every industrialized nation has single payed system. You have no clue what you're talking about, not even Finland has that. "No Google Translate can change that logic," I spoke in slang. Which is something that google translation doesn't know. Find any finn from anywhere and they will tell you how much full of shit you are. "Wouldn't be surprised if you're a sock puppet account for the other commenter," Sock puppet accounts aren't over 10-years old.
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@realmatic10 He just went full crazy. His true colors are shown in here. Funny thing is... Why he even wants it in discord unless he plans to trace me? It's not like people in this comment section can see who wins the argument when it's on discord. It's literally because he is frustrated and angry. I have seen it before. This here is just pure win. He lost his composure. He is incapable to address my arguments, refute my numbers and instead he just goes on full crazy.
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@realmatic10 Also the guardian article is pretty accurate on my experience. Took several months for me to get my lungs scanned in public sector, when I had long lasting flu and effects of asthma. Had I actually had something serious, it would've probably been too late for any treatment at that point.
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@sorennilsson9742 You're acting as if president has power of King. It's the left wing that is against new nuclear plants and always block the attempts to build new one. Simply put.. It's the "progessives" who are the problem.
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@Samshubbi Define fair share. Also welfare states are nothing but ponzi scheme. That is why lot of European countries took ridiculous numbers of refugees in their countries in attempt to have more tax payers.
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JB JG People should have right to decide where they use their money and donations. So what if he prioritizes Mormons over communists?
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You forgot that he is a socialists. Incapable to think anything on his own without his new feudal masters.
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@rileymiller7786 Your convo is too long to address everything, so I focus on the latest ones. First you don't need to experience every culture in order to know which one is the best. You can gather knowledge and use reasoning without actually experiencing it. For example you probably never have experienced slavery, yet you think that it's better to have culture where such thing is illegal or not tolerated. Then for the statistics you provided. You try to find statistic which would show USA being best in some particular thing, instead of looking at the total picture. It's a fact that USA is currently most dominant country on the planet. Economically and militarily. Not to mention that their produce lot of scientific research globally as well. Happiness index is poorly done. Claiming Finland being top happiest country on the world is insane, especially since were known from being depressed and suicidal. Not so long ago they claimed Mexico being the happy country. "It sounds like you’re claiming the US is the reason Europe can have social welfare? " It actually is. It allows them to spend less on defensive forces. Look my country is good example of it. We spend 69.1 billion euros for social security. And there are only 5.5 million of us. If our population size was same as in USA. It would cost to us 4.6 trillion USD. That is more than USA's current budged. There is no way that USA could actually pay such cost and not collapse economically like Venezuela had.
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@AnonYMouse-ky4sg It's, since if you don't have that said freedom, then it's just matter of time until you stop being actually happy due government forcing you to do things you don't like.
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@rileymiller7786 "I did say multiple times that he could site statistics and facts to back up his claim. " I don't care what you said to him. Also simply posting statistics around doesn't really mean that you understand said statistics or that they have been made well. "No the US does not pay for the Nordic countries social welfare." I never said that. Directly they don't, but they enable it by providing military help in case they are invaded. Even when Finland is not part of Nato, we are still co-operating with USA. "You’ll find that these Nordic countries spend about 1% of their GDP on their military which is the same for almost all other countries." Nope, Doesn't apply to Finland. And that is because we actually live next to a country that can be a threat. "What does military might have to do with anything?" Military is the most vital function of any government on the planet. If it's possible to cut it's spending by having another country defending you. Then you have more money on other services. "If you got to choose what country you lived in, are you going to prioritise a countries populations health and wellbeing for the size of its military? " None of these countries would exists without having strong defensive forces. "Is simply wrong and I urge you to watch this video which basically refuted all anti Medicare " Not going to watch long video when I already provided actual raw numbers to prove my point. You can do the math yourself. Oh wait... I'm dealing with left winger. I guess I need to provide for you. Source for social service spending. Ministry of social affairs and health. 69.1 Billion. Population size 5.5 million USA population 328 million. Let's compare the difference in population. 328 million divided by 5.5 million = 59,63636363636364 Then add the cost of project. To that difference. 69.1 billion times 59,63636363636364 = 4120872727272,728 Now let's turn that into dollars. 4,667,927,637,357.704 USD. Aka 4.6 trillion dollars. You would be doubling the current spending. There is literally no way for you guys to pay it.
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@AnonYMouse-ky4sg Slavery is part of cultures. Just because you subjectively think that culture is only food and music, it doesn't mean that in reality it's like that. " There's no objectively better tradition, " There used to traditions where humans were sacrificed. UBI has been tried in my country and it failed. Also you don't understand economy if you think that welfare programs would increase economy. "negative income tax espoused by conservative economist Milton Friedman" Negative income tax was proposed as method to get rid of welfare projects without hurting the poor. IT wasn't planned to leave it that way for all the eternity. "You're saying it's more important to have the freedom to be happy than to actually be happy because eventually not having the freedom will cause unhappiness." Again, your logic is flawed in multiple ways. In this case you imply that government is source of happiness, while failing to understand that it's literally impossible to have perfect government that actually manages to micromange people's behavior to the level that they are happy.
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@AnonYMouse-ky4sg Part 2. " Sure, suddenly and magically the Fins may crave "American freedom" and start to get unhappy" We already have more freedom than USA.
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@rileymiller7786 Any argument said in that video can be said by you as well. If you actually understand the arguments and content made in the video. There is no point sending me to watch a video like that which is filled with propaganda.
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@AnonYMouse-ky4sg part 2. Can you please respond with only one comment at the time? Or is it too much for your brain to write everytihng in one comment? "UBI has not been tried in Finland. Why are you lying? " Literally has been. We just did empirical test over it. Google it up.
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@rileymiller7786 Just watched your video, it was nothing but Gish gallop. You literally ignored the current cost of social security in Finland, and how much it would cost if we had as many people as in USA. Now for rest of your new comments. "Nordic suicide rates are on par or lower than the USs" False, Finland for example tops one of the highest countries when it comes to suicide rate. "-Nordic countries have a higher mortality rate " Healthier lifestyle, you will literally get killed if you use public healthcare system for anything more serious than flu. Seen it couple times. "-crime in Nordic countries is lower than the states" Also more homogeneous than states. "- discrimination is less of a problem in Nordic countries than in the states " Hahaha good luck finding a friend in nordic countries. Sure we won't beat you up, but we will most likely find you so annoying that we won't hang around with you. "- les political divide and dissatisfaction with government in Nordic countries than in the states " You clearly haven't been in Finland... "Less political corruption/ exploitation of elitists in Nordic countries than in the States" BS, I have been part of politics. Corruption in here takes different form and there has been huge scandals lately. "All these things correlate and are connected to happiness and suggests that the average Nordic citizen, is happier and better off. " Didn't you say before "correlation does not imply causation?"
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@AnonYMouse-ky4sg "And you still have no proof it contributes to happiness." Again on total freedoms Finland was top 1 country.
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@AnonYMouse-ky4sg Mexico was counted as happiest country not so long ago. You think it's the greatest country?
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@rileymiller7786 You don't even know what Gish gallop is? it's basically debate tactic where you flood your opponent with information and arguments without giving them time to address them. Or makes it so that it's extremely tedious to address every point he made. "That video showed that Medicare could indeed be paid for in the US and would actually be cheaper than the current system. " He didn't show, he claimed. And he didn't say that it's cheaper than current system on total to the government. In fact it would be more expensive to the government and tax payers. He simply compared it to how much people already pay combined in private and public sector. However it still wouldn't remove the cost made by regulatory burden created by government of USA, and like always shown in history. Everything government does is less effective than private. For same reason no one in here uses public healthcare system if they have something serious. " You’re just butthurt that your maths got debunked " He didn't debunk my math. In fact he didn't even address it. "Ok 1 I’m not just talking about Finland here, two the average suicide rate in the Nordic countries " Moving a goalpost. Existence of Finland already breaks your correlation. "Your healthcare refute was pitiful, if you’re seriously suggesting that the US healthcare system is superior to that of the Nordic countries, then you’re clueless." System? Depends how you define what is better. But when it comes to quality of doctors and treatment... Yeah USA has it better. Thanks to their system they even provide new medical knowledge, techniques and tech that other countries don't produce. "Your Personal experience doesn’t speak for your entire country + Norway, Sweden and Denmark’s. Statistics show these counties are healthier. " Correlation does not imply causation. As said, this can be explained with healthier life style, and genetics. " but you’re crazy if you think discrimination is more a problem there than in the states. " Depends how you define discrimination. But again, come here and find out.
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@rileymiller7786 part 2 Since you're incapable to respond in one message alone. " You total, bizarre dismissal of that video is astonishing and I’m dumbfounded." I have refuted every point that video make, long time ago in other discussions. I would literally need to write an essay to address everything he claimed in there. "and it’s coming from an experienced doctor." Appeal to authority. "That video proved your bullshit “US can’t pay for it argument” wrong" It didn't. He simple made multiple outlandish claims without backing them up. "but you can’t admit it because you spent all that time typing out your ‘perfect’ maths lol and it just got blown out of the water" So taking into account population difference when it comes to cost of the social security system, is blown out of water? I even provided sources for the spending of Finland. You're free to copy the math. Your "doctor" never took into account population size difference of these countries. They are all extremely small countries. He tried to compare current USA system to some fantasy that he is talking about. I was talking about CURRENT SPENDING OF FINLAND and how much bigger it would be if the population was the same. Left wing is just incapable to be honest. This is why you guys are losing globally.
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@AnonYMouse-ky4sg "There hasn't been a country without military protection of some kind" Again, what makes you think that no one wouldn't attack you if you didn't have any protection? "You have to consider that not having military forces also makes you less of a target because you're showing you're not a threat to them. Again, WWI." What? You don't make any sense. With you reasoning Finland would attack Russia because they view Russia as a threat. Also WW1 was caused by different countries having military agreements. "So you're saying you would kill and rob me if you knew you could get away with it? You're a sad human being, if so." I'm saying that there are people who would do so. Ever heard of sociopaths and psychopaths? It's as if you think that Stalin and Hitler never existed. " consider the Ukraine conflict to be more of a civil war. " Great... I'm actually dealing with someone who's IQ is less than 90. "There are a lot of people in Ukraine who want to belong to Russia." You do realize that Russia had send those people there though migration in order to have cause to invade Ukraine? You also do realize that the invasion happened only because Ukraine was about to join EU? "An ad hominem attack instead of showing me how most conflict is not terrorism, religious, civil war, or organized crime related?" I would need to write an essay to person who is incapable to comprehend anything I say.
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@AnonYMouse-ky4sg Citatating anything for you guys is purpose. As shown with your friend who ignored actual cost of the social security in Finland. Even though I posted the actual spending budget published by our ministry of health.
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@Dencyftw "That doesn't reinvest money back into the economy" Actually it does, and you ignore that they can't just keep buying back their stocks. Money keeps circulating no matter what you do.
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@Dencyftw No they can't. Do you understand what buying and sale entails? And again why is it bad that they buy their stocks back in order to secure their influence within company?
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@rileymiller1294 "I want to clarify, want is your actual position on this US Nordic countries thing, is your position that the US is a better place to live than these countries?" In some cases, yet and in some no. Depends on state you live in and what you actually value the most. "Continuing with the healthcare debate The money is saved by using a public healthcare system (still retaining private health) by reducing the huge overhead wastage costs." you do realize that the whole wastage cost is purely based on government regulations? Regulations that nordic countries don't even have. " the second biggest source of savings would be through the ridiculously high pharmaceutical drugs, with the US spending on average twice as much for their pharmaceuticals than other high income nations." Regulations <3... Not to mention tarrifs. But then again... Why I'm surprised that left winger never even thinks why the prices are so high. "its been measured that the US would save 2 trillion from this over 10 years" Colleges got more expensive once government started to intervene with it. What makes you think that those companies won't just increase the prices since they know that tax payers will pay them anyway? "Also are you happy with thousands of Americans dyeing yearly because that cant afford healthcare? or 29 million Americans being uninsured? " It's people's own responsibility to take care of their own health. If we look at them at individual cases, we will most likely find some drug addicts who prioritize getting a new shot over getting medical treatment. " or 29 million Americans being uninsured? " This is bad why? "Also cut the appeal to authority crap." It's a logical fallacy, so maybe you should stop? Also Rand paul and Ron paul were both doctors. Both disagree with you. "Sweden, England, Denmark, Japan, Germany, France, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Ireland... all have some form of universal healthcare." All are countries which have been lately cutting their spending in welfare projects and countries that have huge debt issues because of welfare projects. Plus lot of those are actually more free economically and have less corporate tax rates. Now I need to make another comment because otherwise youtube won't show this.
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@rileymiller1294 Part 2. "How do you compare which healthcare system is superior" Quality of doctors and equipment. " well you'd compare how many citizens are benefiting or not benefiting from their system, Higher life expectancies, lower infant mortality rates and user satisfaction are good indications on how effective a healthcare system is. " Every citizen in North Korea get's free healthcare. Do you think their system is better? Do you think they actually provide better care? Are you more likely to survive surgery or even get one on time? "ser satisfaction are good indications on how effective a healthcare system is. " Not really, since if they don't know better then they are satisfied. They could literally introduce voodoo doctor and have high number of user satisfactory. In fact lot of pseudo medicine works in this way. Their customers are satisfied even though they are dying. "well that's fine. heck the US should keep the pri health sector, it should just be optional, and every US should by default be guaranteed to healthcare." Why? It's not my responsibility to pay your medical bills for smoking cigarettes or driving a car while being drunk.
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@AnonYMouse-ky4sg "Hitler didn't exist in a vacuum. He had the support of many Germans." Yes and? You're the one who thinks that you're in vacuum where no one who would threat your country would ever arise. The fact that history is filled with warfare kind of proves your whole point wrong. "What evidence do you have Russia sent those people?" How else Russian population would've suddenly be in Ukrainian? Use some brains.
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@rileymiller7786 It's a fallacy, look it up. Very common one in fact. "did I say that? No. Again I’ll repeat myself. " Yes you did and I quote: " and it’s coming from an experienced doctor." Like as if him being doctor is somehow relevant. "Why do you think studies always include the person occupation?" Good question. Why do you take marx seriously even though he isn't economist? "Because it adds credibility to their claim." No it doesn't. In studies no one cares are you doctor or not. They care how the study was made and can it be repeated. "Show me where these governments have been cutting there social spending" How? You want to read articles in Finnish? How big part of the country got angry because of the cuts? "Yes regulations, like no shit, the government needs to regular the pharmaceutical companies." No they don't, and most of those regulations are purely there because they were lobbied by big corporations to keep smaller competition down. "then the pharmaceutical companies set their price extremely high because they no the consumer really dosent have a choice if he wants to cure his illness," They have choice to buy the medicine elsewere. The profit margin in actual products is actually pretty low. "ell the Proposed universal US system wants to get rid of this private overhead cost, your finish government didn’t? Cool, irrelevant" You haven't shown any data to support this claim. "ahhh if the studies show that North Koreans are living a higher life expectancy and not dieing due to not being able to afford healthcare like in the US" Correlation does not imply causation, and you're missing the point. Again, higher life expectancy can be explained by many different factors. " But what use is it if you can’t afford it?" Insurances, charities, take a loan etc... ". Are you ok with this? You didn’t answer" Again, it's not my responsibility to pay life choices of others. Most of the medical problems are purely caused by lifestyle and people being stupid.
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@rileymiller7786 Literally 0 evidence of that. But if you think so, then now here is your chance to get rid. Make your own company that makes those drugs, and become rich by undercutting their prices. I bet your IQ wasn't high enough to wonder why no one haven't done that yet? Tip for ya: It ain't because they have some grand conspiracy to put the prices higher.
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@AnonYMouse-ky4sg Being happy is subjective.
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@rileymiller7786 sorry I'm smarter than that. I'm not giving my discord to far leftie. You do realize that you could just log on computer and answer back later? "What’s your point on bringing up that those countries are freer economically and have lower tax rates??" Because they are all the things that you oppose. "You do know I’m for capitalism and a free market right?" Sure that's why you promote eliminating free market in healthcare. "No when all countries with social Medicare are satisfied" I bet those Venezuelans and Cubans feel so satisfied that they don't have access to even basic antibiotics. "It’s like your suggesting Australians and Canadians would be better off with a private only system, ridiculous." They would. At least their government wouldn't be swimming in debt. You see everything cost, nothing is free. All of those countries currently "enjoy" healthcare at cost of the people in future.
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@rileymiller7786 "A cut in Medicare expenses in Finland does not mean all the other countries that have UHC are doing it now does it? " They do, dome some research. You're spouting ideas that you haven't even researched. And all of those countries are in debt due overspending. That alone is evidence that it's not sustainable practice.
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@Dencyftw Based on what?
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@rileymiller7786 How about math again? Since population difference between Finland and USA was 59,63636363636364 Then let's look Tax revenue. USA 482529 million USD Finland 95 126 Euros. 59,63636363636364 times 95 126 000 000 = 5 672 968 727 272,728 Then convert that into dollars = 6,428,219,675,152.496 USD When population difference is taken into account. Finland would generate more tax revenue than USA.
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@rileymiller7786 Just google "Finland eu debt". You find tons of articles about it. You can look into any of those countries economics and debt clock easily. IF you have hard time finding those informations then you're not capable to these discussions in the first place. It's not like they are hidden by some studies behind a pay wall. "When I’ve tried to search, I’m just finding stuff on how good it is!" Aka your IQ is too low to even use google. Nice "I actually find it hilarious that you are repulsed by me because I’m a leftist, so much so that your too scared to talk to me on something like discord. for what?" Leftists are known to resort violence whenever they want. Scared? Rofl... anyone can surprise anyone and there is long history of left wingers being fanatics over their ideology that they would be even willing to killing millions of people in their mad attempts. "ou must be repulsed by Republicans too, because even the majority of them want UBH you numpty. " Claim that is not backed up by any data. "Basically every wealthy country except the US has a universal healthcare" Not an argument. "but apparently you know better than all the economist," That's funny because it's literally the economists who speak against this. Nobel prize winner ones as well. " In fact, it sounds like you want a even freer health market than the one the US has." Actually lot of countries you look up to... Have freer market than USA. "with your system, there would literally be people dying on the streets. " Doesn't happen unless they ruin themselves. "People who can’t afford healthcare would literally just die because they can’t afford it." Literally anyone who works can afford it. " Get on discord you coward so I can educate your dumb ass" You act exactly like some guy who pretended to be a wolf on steam forums. In fact he went as crazy as you, and then started to throw death threats around. Just read your own comment. You sound like someone who got hit into head as a child.
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@sorennilsson9742 Economics isn't a zero sum game. One can be rich without someone being poor.
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@sorennilsson9742 "so by not investing in the USA the people who initially worked hard to generate the profit losses" By investing in USA they will make loss and go bankrupt. By investing in Asia they will gain wealth which they use in USA. Want them to invest in USA? Cut the taxes and regulations. " Even if you cut the taxes down to 10% there are nations out there that has lower taxes" Correct, but you fail to understand that it's costly to trade across the sea. USA happens to be in good spot when it comes to trading routes. You're basically saying that people should have even smaller chance to compete against other countries. "By having higher taxes, investing them in infrastructure, education and reaserch one can make ones nation competitive thereby increasing production in once nation. " false, there is limit how much investing in infrastructure will bring wealth. Same with education. For example Finland has good education, but we still don't have as many billionaires and millionaires as USA. Education isn't a magical pill as solution. Because what is the point of having highly educated country if no one puts that talent to use? Soviets had all of that yet they struggled. "We have seen money constantly leaving the USA for 40 years," Your comment makes no sense. What do you think that Chinese guy will do with a USD in a china? Nothing, unless they use it to buy American products. "The budget and tradedefecit will brake the economy, the debt is now over 22 trillion" Debt literally caused by federal government alone by spending too much. Your lack of knowledge is pretty high.
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@Fuckjaredmilton Oh please... American poor are basically middle class in other countries. The definition of middle-class, lower and upper class changes all the time. What really maters is do they have now more than before, and objectively speaking... They do. Also money circulates regargless of the middle class. Rich people keep investing and even if someone keeps in them a bank, the bank will borrow and invest it. Money circulation never stops. "Trickle down doesnt work. " Strawman argument. Name an economist who has ever advocated or created theory of trickle down. It's only a buzzword used by people who don't understand economics.
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@sorennilsson9742 Not really, he was simply about lessening the regulations on coal industry. Not about forcefully using it more. Coal is after all one of the natural resources that USA can benefit from. "The fact that, sun, water, wind did not get any help can not be hidden by your argumentation" You clearly don't understand about cost effectiveness. Those things don't need and shouldn't have any help, since they aren't as cost effective. They are more costly than other forms of energy sources. The cost based on the resources spend on creating them and in comparison how little they produce. Only delusional people support those forms of energy to be used by whole country. It's not plausible in it's current form.
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@rileymiller7786 My actual expertise is IT. I could easily track you through security holes on Discord. "You are so wack bro, like I’m going hop on a plane and fly to Finland you fucking doofus." Or just ask some far left anarchist group in here to do something. It's pretty obvious that you people have connections. And in all honesty, that has happened before. The suggestion you just had made. There is literally 0 reasons to do this discussion on discord, when it can be done in here. "You’re clearly too insecure to chat to anyone, I understand" What? How is this related to someone being insecure? You have some serious issues if you think that someone can be insecure over voice chat. "Why do you think no wealthy country has your system in place? " Why do you think that all the most wealthiest countries have most freest markets on the planet? While countries with lot of regulations and government control/ownership are poor? ". You just admitted you’re ok with thousands if not millions dying because they can’t afford it " If they can't afford it, then the society can't afford it. And I never said that I'm okay with thousands of people dying. That is a strawman from your part. I simply stated that there are better solutions than stealing from future generations. "oh yeah all the people who get cancer and other sickness, fuck them by your logic. You’re a sick human being, who lacts any empathy " Sure that's why I donate big junk of my wealth monthly... Because I'm sick human being who lacks any empathy. Cancer and other sickness are actually very rare things, and can be treated pretty cheaply depending on the severity. However get cancer in public healthcare and you will die before you get treatment. At least you can be in debt and alive in USA. "Oh yeah, show me all these economists who want a total free market health system, I’ll wait. " Milton Friedman and Friedrich Hayek, both are Nobel winners. Then Johan Norbeg. Those three I can name out of my hat. Most economist stand for free market since they understand that more free the market is, the better opportunities people have to make business. "I bet you’re in favour of scrapping the minimum wage too you maniac" Nordic countries don't have minimum wage laws and wages are higher than in USA. "Here’s you link to show that 70% of Americans are dissatisfied with their current private system" Does not mean that they are in favor for public healthcare. Also you can't trust polls. Didn't the last election already show why? "you’re just a scared, Insecure little girl" Calling me as a girl? Is that suppose to be an insult? Seems like left wingers are bigger sexists than right wingers. Yep you went full crazy the moment you started doing thrash talk and avoided all the points I had made. I already know how crazies like you work. Done this before.
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@realmatic10 Don't bother joining him on discord. There is literally 0 difference expect he can shout over you in attempt to hide your point. While in text he can't do that, nor can he trace you.
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@Dencyftw Only kids think that socialism or social democracy is a good thing. That is because they lack knowledge and experience of the real world.
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@realmatic10 I'm pretty sure he is legitimate member of antifa. Which makes him literally worse than Hitler. But see my point? He didn't want to add in discord to have debate, he wanted to add so he could yell at you. Due all the frustration caused to him for losing the debate. There is literally no reason to add someone on discord for a debate. Only mad fanatics demand it.
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 @Dencyftw You do realize that I'm from Nordic country? Everything you think you know about us is most likely false.
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@Dencyftw Unlike you, I have actually read socialist and communist work. You're delusional if you think that nordic countries are socialists. "and some more bullshit like that " That is not bs, that factual. They have one of the most freest markets, with very little regulations. Not only that but they have very low corporate tax rate.
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@marcobrace According to socialists, that is same as giving. ORANGE MAN BAD!
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his IQ is less than 90
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Let's address this video. Earned tax cut: This part of yours implies that government owns every source of income you have and that you have to earn the right to get some parts of it. It isn't about that you have to do something majestic to "earn" tax cut. It's just that they decided to take less from you. You already earned your income by working. Tax cuts being good: Even though you hire people more based on demand. You fail to realize that some industries might have higher demand for workers. Not only that, but you could actually increase wages of your current workers. Or simply hire better ones who would only work for you for higher cost. You could also donate the money to charities you believe, or voluntarily send part of your income to the government. Also it's more about you spending the money in the things you like. Instead of some corrupted politicians choosing how to spend your money. Money will be spend anyway, even if it were in a bank (because they loan and invest your money). These things don't make sense to you, because you're not a deep thinker. And lastly... You look like a crack addict. Seriously you used to look more healthy.
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