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Comments by "Tespri" (@Tespri) on "Bill O'Reilly Denies Having White Privilege" video.
Because it's racist? Whole white privilege is just used as a ad hominem argument. "you can't know since you're privileged" "you should just shut up because you have white male privileges". How about instead "you have majority privileges"? Go to africa and see how much privileged you are in there. You would be surprised how much worse racism is in there toward white people than white people have in USA for blacks.
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dffykvn Bullshit, you're basicly trying to nullify other people's success by stating that "because he is in race X" if that would be true we wouldn't have poor white people. Whole thing that you guys are crying is nothing more than excuse, especially since there are people from other races who are successful, heck some even without trying hard. Just admit it already that maybe you're not as talented as you think.
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dffykvn Again bullshit. That advantage only exists if you're trying to get work from a person who is racist, and that advantage goes both ways. Black guy who owns a company but is biased toward white people wouldn't hire them if there is a less capable black guy also competing for same place. In other words get over it, that advantage only exists if your boss is a racist.
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dffykvn Are you fucking idiot? Those are called as family connections and has nothing to do with you being white. He got those advantages BECAUSE OF HIS FAMILY, not because of his race. He would've got all of those anyway if he would've been black. Good job on proving that you have no idea what you're talking about.
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dffykvn Again bullshit, or are you telling me that black and asians don't use family connections in America? You are so fucking stupid if you can't see difference of having advantage because of rich family to having advantage BECAUSE OF YOUR RACE. O'reilly only has those advantages because HE HAS A RICH FAMILY. Edit: Also his family isn't benefited because they are white. You just moved your goal post from O'reilly being white to his family being white, without ever pointing out how they magically got rich just because of their color.
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dffykvn I'm not missing the point. You are literally suggesting that they suddenly got rich out of nowhere just because of their skin color. Rich enough to give power to their offsprings. If this would be true then every white person would be RICH. But it's not true. This is a issue of classism not issue of fucking race. IT DID EVEN EXISTS BEFORE THERE EVEN WERE BLACK OR ASIANS IN WESTERN COUNTRIES. "Oreilly is white because his family is white and thanks to their whiteness he got to live in a home that black people wouldn't have had access to." Again that has nothing to do with them getting RICH. With your line of thinking every white person should be living well, but that's not true. And again, black people are also getting this advantage if their family is rich. Obama's family for example, heck those actors kids are getting roles in movies even though they can't act for shit. It's not about race, but family connections. More powerful your family is the easier you get with you life. "Acknowledging white privilege is admitting that he got a head start and he owes some small part of his success to that head start." He didn't have head start because him being white but because his family had connections. Trying to move goal post again? It's pointless if you can't give clear correlation and causation how the fuck you suddenly become rich by just being white. "The black grandson benefits from his families whiteness but he doesn't get all of the benefits." Claim without any evidence backing it up. Is meaningless claim.
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dffykvn "I said they benefited. They got a cheap home thanks to the government and racist policies. Wanting him to acknowledge that isn't the same as saying that he owes EVERYTHING to his race. " Expect that's what you said. Cheap homes? and racist policies? Please point out where in your laws and regulations reads "white people will get cheaper and better homes" then I believe you. "Once again, that isn't what I said." It's exactly what you said. You said that he got benefits because he is white. I told no, he got benefits because of his family connections. Then you tried to move goal post that his FAMILY got those benefits from being white. However you fail to realize that we are talking about, not how his family got into power position. Not to mention you fail to address how his family even became successful in the first place. "/looks at the founding documents. Only landowning white men can vote....hmmmm nope that couldn't have possibly contributed to the success of a lot of people. I guess I'm going to have to repeat that I'm not saying it's the only reason for their success it just contributed to it and made it much easier for them." Look there is this thing called as europe. I know for Americans it might be hard to believe that there are other countries. Europe had multiple countries, and there whole racial thing barely did even exist. Also notice word LANDOWNING. Not to mention there barely even were any foreign people in there except slaves lantern on. Mention of white was most likely meant to make sure that indians won't get any power. And that law doesn't even exist anymore which is why I said BULLSHIT to you. If we would still live in 1800 then you would be right, but WERE NOT. "So he didn't get a headstart from getting to live in a cheap home that only white people could buy?" Again evidences... Waiting for you to cite any government rule which says that only white people could buy. Also wtf cheap homes has to do with your success?
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dffykvn 1. I think I did already mention that it's only advantage if you deal with racist person. And it's also disadvantage if he deals with a racist who is black. You don't get any advantage out of your color unless you're dealing with racist person. 2. Yes you keep making long ass comments without providing anything insightful. Or is it because you lack one? 3. Evidence or didn't happen. 4. Did you even read the wikipedia page you provided to me? 5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_O'Reilly_(political_commentator) I'm sorry but his birthplace clearly had no affects on his success. It's pretty clear that he WAS (used to be) talented individual who did achieve his status with hard work. Also do you know what part means? I have already said before that your skin color only helps with to deal with racist which prefer your color. I never denied that there would be absolutely no difference. However when someone comes and says that he got where he was because he was privileged whiteman then it's a very different. And "admitting" that it's PART of reason would just thrill idiots like you to think that he actually did reach his goals because of his skin color. 6. Nah you don't acknowledge it. You're simply making excuses and trying to please people around you by saying it. Since you still haven't figured out that it only benefits if you are dealing with racist person. It's double edged sword. 7. You don't seem to know what the word "trying" means? They don't OWN a part. It's same as you would just go and say that the bread they ate in morning OWNED a part in their success. The part it owned was SO FUCKING LITTLE that it shouldn't be mentioned in this case. How hard it's to get it?
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dffykvn 1. So now you're denying that racist person wouldn't treat people of his race better than other races? Holy shit you really are dumfuck O.o. 2. Why don't you use your brains in order to figure out what I said instead of being grammar nazi? Puzzle too hard for you? 3. You made a claim and didn't back it up with any evidence. 4. Actually my reading comprehend is very good (full scores from tests), my writing is just bad. Only one who isn't getting point is you, and I doubt that it has nothing to do with language in this case. More like about your cognitive dissonance. 5. "So his parents getting a quality home at a cheaper price just because of their skin color didn't improve the odds even a little bit? You're a fucking idiot if you believe that. " And you thought that repeating same which you have been saying all the time would change the situation. You're fucking retarded of believing that. It's not like I have actually answered to that question multiple times already. Looks like memory and thinking isn't your strongest forte. "Are you quoting me or are you asking me that question?" Rhetorical question from my side pointing out that you clearly can't even speak your own language. "But that isn't true. If you grow up with things that people who didn't share your skin color couldn't have had access to then you've benefited from white privilege." This comment makes no sense at all. You ignored my comment totally and started to talk something which is irrelevant to it's point. "Yea why should anyone acknowledge objective reality." False, again he should be forced to admit that eating a yogurt also had it's part. And in matter of fact ADMIT THAT EVERYFUCKING THING FROM THE SMALEST ATOM DID. In a way they did, but their part like his skin color played so small part that it shouldn't even be mentioned. 6. "Actually I did acknowledge it. Do you have a learning disability?" No but you really seem to have that one by looks of it. Since you like to repeat same arguments over the my rebuttal that did just counter your argument previously. You're going in circles idiot. Rest of the comment is again irrelevant to the point which I made. You just keep repeating yourself while totally ignoring what I have said by looks of it.
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If white privilege would be true we wouldn't have white people who are poor and who are in prison. It's classism nothing more. Rich and famous just don't get as much punished as poor people. Because of this news I' am really wondering that I should unsuscribe, don't get me wrong I have no love for O'reilly, but this news was just bullshit.
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Chris Cullen It does, David is too stupid to see difference of using family connections and racial privilege. David fails to demonstrate and explain how laws in your country gives white people more privilege.
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Chris Cullen You really aren't that smart? I do comprehend the topic. The fact if there isn't any law giving any privilege to white people, means that there really isn't any privilege in being one. It just means that privilege you gained is simply because your family connections. The fact that some racist person might let you go easy doesn't mean that it's privilege because other races people can also be racist and give same privilege to people of their choice. People just tend to favor their tribe more than others. Nothing new in here and everyone are doing it,even you.
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Chris Cullen I'm also white male and as far as I can see no advantage over it. In fact some might even say that it's disadvantage in my country. Yeah you would love my country. Instead of having far right nuts we have far left nuts. Also good way to ignore what I said previously. Oh and wait here is more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_O'Reilly_(political_commentator) By looks of this, Bill's success isn't about his color but his work. If you really read his history it clearly says that this guy really is something which someone could say "selfmade". Anyone with his CV would be successful in his late years.
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