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Comments by "Tespri" (@Tespri) on "Debate: Do More Guns = Less Crime?" video.
Guns are banned in mexico yet they have huge crime rates. Guns are also banned in japan. Yet they have criminal activity. Guns doesn't make criminals. Your society makes them for being too stupid to not focus on real issues like bad education, social healthcare, low salary.
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No, but more guns won't increase crime either. Better social healthcare, salary and education though do mean less crime.
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DarthCipient It's funny how you can't see how your comment just proves my point. It's not the guns which cause crime. The fact that you totally can't see it even after your statement proves that you aren't thinking very deep.
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***** Actually many people make that claim. You can even rob people with a kitchen knife. They don't need to buy a gun from black market. Heck you can even make bombs from normal stuff that you can get from a grocery shop.
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That is a red herring argument. Argument was about crime overall, not about gun violence. Gun violence is just subcategory of violence
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Tadzio5050 Are you really that stupid? Read the fucking title of the video. Nothing to do with gun violence but about crime overall.
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Tadzio5050 Like you can't explain why mexico has so high gun violence rate even though guns are banned. What a joke.
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Mexico. your whole point nullified by naming a country which has a gun ban yet crime rate is huge as fuck including gun violence. Europe, Canada, and japan all happen to have better welfare of citizens than in America. not to mention better education. High crime rates ALWAYS correlate with those factors.
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***** Yep, but so does bombs and guess which one is easier for person to get? Spoiler, it's the bomb. You can make easily one of them just from the stuff you can find from grocery store. Far more dangerous and easier to get away with.
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Stikibits I don't own a gun nor do I want own a gun. So I'm not a gun nut. I just happen to realize that all you people are doing is supporting organized crime with your actions. Laws against guns is as effective as laws against drugs.
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Stikibits Gun nut by definition means that someone is mad over guns idolizes them and collects them. I can't be gun nut if I don't desire to own one. Subscribing to every right wing or left wing ideas is something that an idiot would do. Which so far applies to you. Smart man picks stuff which actually works. Gun laws don't work as it's shown in crime rate in UK and Mexico. This whole "to have guns or not to have guns" debate is just distraction from real issues that world is having right now. While the real issue and cause of crime isn't really talked as much as ownership of a gun. "It's like saying I think Nazi are right, but i don't own a uniform, or KKK are correct but I don't go to clan meetings." Well you kind of think that nazies were right. After all they did have strict gun laws. "A firearm can only ever increase risk." Yeah keep sucking balls of the mafia. I bet they love it.
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Stikibits You lose more money and time. Enforcing the law will not only costs to the government but give more revenue for black market. It's easy to get access to a gun through that. Believe it or not. No matter what the law says, people can have what they want. You're basically demand that people should be putted to a jail for a victimless crime.
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Stikibits I have got. In fact my country even has a strict gun law yet pretty much every criminal has a gun or a weapon which is against the law. The very fact that mexico has high crime rate and gun violence even while having gun ban is evidence that those laws doesn't stop people from having them if they really want it. We just happen to have low crime rate because free and good education, better wages and social healthcare which insures that no one needs to commit a crime in order to get their livelihood. Really only crimes are either done by people who are drunk or related to drugs mostly. This is how you solve crime issues. Not by banning stuff and creating more criminals.
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Stikibits Do you even understand what peer review means? Also being credible has nothing to do with the soundness of the argument itself. "Mexico has massive poverty, the Drug War and it's flooded by weapons and all thanks to the USA." And if you would be intelligent you should now realize that violence including gun violence is caused by poverty not by fucking existence of the guns. mexico is perfect example that laws doesn't prevent anything and crimes are caused by other reasons than certain laws not existing.
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Stikibits the stuff you cited had nothing to do with effectiveness of gun laws. OR are you seriously saying that article about do million people actually shoot gun at criminals actually being relevant to anything I have said here? This argument style you're using is known as shotgun fallacy. Try impress others and drown your opponent with irrelevant stuff. I here quote Einstein: "If I were wrong, one would be enough." "a single credible source for science and research" Crime rate statistics have nothing to do with science. Fucking idiot...
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Stikibits Hah this is golden guy who resorts to dirty argumentative methods calls someone dishonest for pointing them out. :D 1. Talks about high murder rate in USA. 2. Just talks about risks of having a gun in home and does it overweight the benefits of having one. Nothing about why guns should be restricted/banned, just why it's bad idea to have one out in the open in family house. 3. Book chapter not a study. Suicides have nothing to do is guns legal or not. In fact suicide rates actually tend to be pretty high in places where guns are banned/heavily restricted. Japan for example. It correlates with problems of the society not with gun. 4. Mexico and not really a study. Also an argument from authority. Whetever someone is "leading" psychiatrists is irrelevant to the fact is he speaking truth or simply outright wrong with his/her reasoning. I rest my case. You're dishonest person who only relies on bullshit. So now I showed why every source you provided were irrelevant to the point at hand and why some of them weren't even studies. Not to mention you relied on argument from authority (common fallacy among idiots) by saying "leading psychiatrist"
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whyamimrpink78 Why would anyone who has a criminal intent buy a gun legal ways?
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