Comments by "Tespri" (@Tespri) on "Liberal Media is Clearly in Trouble" video.

And it should be in trouble. Conservative media and liberal media both are bullshit. New reporters should be neutral. This is why you guys are bad journalists, because you're not neutral.
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Steve G Again sun doesn't rise from the west is totally different argument. The fact that you still haven't figured that one out tells a lot about your IQ. " A reporter's job is to inform the public of what is true" Exactly and which is why they should be NEUTRAL. BEcause biased reporters tend to do lot of fuck ups like fox news and TyT news does. BECAUSE REPORTER DOESN'T FUCKING PICK THE SIDE. HE JUST REPORTS IT. I really hope that caps locks helped you to realize it.
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NUTCASE71733 Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. Both sides are far from being neutral. They don't tell the news and the each side of the argument. Instead they yell their own opinions instead of just telling the freaking news. TyT network is one huge propaganda network just like fox news.
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Steve G You really like to walk long ass comment with very little substance in it. By looking your picture it might make sense... "One person says "the sun rises in the East," and another says "the sun rises in the West." A neutral person listens to these and says "well, they each have their opinion, and I will stay out of it and just report these two opinions because I am neutral." " False, neutral doesn't say that. Neutral reporter says what each of those said and leaves it be. How hard it's to understand this concept? Neutral means that you're not picking SIDES. You're just reporting it instead of going war with it. Being on either liberal or conservative side easily makes you lose objective view, while as neutral news station you can actually keep it.
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NUTCASE71733 What the fuck are you talking about? I did literally say that I want that reporters REPORT THE FUCKING EVENT. Not to talk about their opinions over it. Get it? Shouldn't be that complex idea to get.
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NUTCASE71733 No, it's clear that you're not getting. You are talking about world views and opinions here, not about NEWS. News should be only based on the facts that they have on their hand, not on their opinions about the situation. Whole creationist bullshit has nothing to do with my comment at ALL. Journalists doesn't come and say anything or report anything of from those two talking. BECAUSE IT ISN'T NEWS. Journalists aren't commentators. They are suppose to just report, he can report that those two had a debate (if that's the sort of journalism he does), but he shouldn't be saying his opinion over the subject nor pushing his opinion to viewers. "when the thing is, science is something that is not fucking voted upon," And in journalism there isn't anything to be voted about. How fucking stupid are you? Journalists doesn't decide what is true or what isn't, that isn't their job. "THAT is how news is to be done." That is no longer a news, but a debate.
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HyperOpinionated Because people don't change if no one ever questions them or brings something to them to think about. For that same reason cults try to avoid that their members have contacts outside their cults.
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NUTCASE71733 Rofl you just contradicted yourself here. As I previously stated that news should only report FACTS instead of their OWN OPINIONS. News reporter isn't neutral when it starts to talk what is his opinion about the subject.
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Steve G Oh please... It seems that both of your's positions have suddenly changed over time. News reporters job is just to report the news. Not to have a fucking debate over it or state their opinions about it. NEWS REPORTERS JOB ISN'T TO BE A FREAKING POLITICIAN.
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I'll make this simpler for you two. When there is a news report that group of nazies rob a bank. Only thing that news reporters is suppose to tell is WHAT HAPPENED. Not to start talking about their opinions about robbery or about their ideologies of the people who did commit it. Only what happened nothing else. That's they job.
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NUTCASE71733 Objectivity is just to report what happened. Not anyones opinions about it. News reporters aren't suppose to pick sides. how hard it's to get this? They just REPORT WHAT HAPPENED. Also your politician add to this doesn't make any sense. Since news report didn't ask what politician thinks about it BECAUSE THEY ARE OBJECTIVE. They just report that they were nazies if the evidence shows that. How fucking hard it's to get this?
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Steve G No you don't understand. you literally keep repeating yourself even when I have already refuted you both many times. This is why you guys are idiots. Because you just don't get it. "the reporter would be NEUTRAL in reporting both claims," False statement. You're trying to create situation where reporter is forced to choose even though that situation still does not apply. If the fact about the where they nazies or not wasn't known then the reporter just doesn't say that they were nazie. In fact now you're saying that bank owner (eye witness presumable) says that they were nazies. Then reporters duty is to say that "According to eyewitness they were people who belong to the group X" "group X denies the allegory" That is what true reporter would say. Now if they had actual evidence that they were nazies then they wouldn't even go through what witness said or what group X said. " and for the reporter to be a JOURNALIST, he has to determine which of these two claims is more valid and present the truth, " False claim. Journalist doesn't need to seek what is the truth. THAT IS THE JOB OF THE POLICE. Journalists job is just to report the event. Journalist can say that according to person X it was nazies. Their group denies this.
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So in the short. Reporter doesn't need to know which one is true in this case. It isn't his job to investigate it like a detective. It's his job to report what happened. And what happened was that person X said that it was nazies, and nazies denied that claim. Nothing in here contradicts their work and they are neutral. Now you two for some idiotic reasons want apply their opinions to this stuff. Which was in fact the very context of this whole talk. Since this youtube channel talks about their opinions about the event and their speculations instead of what has happened.
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Steve G I'm sorry how This report isn't true: "Bank Y got robbed by group of people" "Bank manger stated that group was nazi group " "Nazi group denies this claim". Everything in this report is true. And every claim in this report was true. It isn't reporters job to do police's job. you're living in weird world where movie reporters are the ones who solve everything. Now when police finds out what group did that. Then they report what group did it. Simple as that. Speculating over it and wondering which one did it is pointless and damaging if the speculations were wrong. And that is exactly that both liberals and conservatives are doing. They don't care about truth.
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Steve G I really don't see what is your issue. Are you saying that you have been arguing with me whole this time without you realizing that you have same position with me? My original point still stands. Funny that you didn't notice it. Being neutral doesn't mean that you lick each side's asses. It means that you don't give a fuck about either side, and report the situation like it's. To be honest I don't see how the fuck you two came into conclusion that I think that reporters should ignore the facts so that every view point looks equal.
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NUTCASE71733 Learn to read for fucksake. You're just throwing straw man arguments in here.
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NUTCASE71733 No there is nothing else to that job description. It's just reporting what they have founded out so far. Their job isn't to do cops duty or scientists. Fact checking is part of it but that doesn't mean that they should go and figure out who was the murderer in case X. They wait for someone else to do it. If they don't know who did it then they just report what is known currently. Creationists VS the scientists has nothing to do with the NEWS. It's totally different subject. You're for some fucked up reason viewing reporters as a judges of a debate contest. NEWS shouldn't have any part on debates nor politics. They should just report the results and the events.
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NUTCASE71733 Not putting words into your mouth at all. I literally said it's not job of the reporter to solve the cases. "Ok, taking this into consideration, was it wrong for the media to report that Iraq had no WMDs prior to the Iraq war" How is that a debate or about about political ideology. Also for your "creationist vs scientists" Please provide even one good news example of any situation.. I can guarantee that you will fail.
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