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Comments by "Tespri" (@Tespri) on "Is Intellectual Dark Web Turning People to Marxism?" video.
+Nathan Drake In fact it's objective truth that he got it all wrong. 1. Marx claimed that revolution would happen in capitalist countries. Which in fact it didn't. 2. Marx claimed that wages would get smaller and smaller. Which is opposite of the truth. 3. His claim that capital would flow into hands of fewer people. if that were truth then western countries wouldn't look the way they look now. It's objective fact that poverty rates world wide are all time low now. They never been this low in existence of this planet. We also have more millionaires than ever before. Yep his capital accumulation was refuted. It's objective fact that all capital produced by some family, will be lost by the third generation. This has been already studied and proven. Far leftie calling someone as dishonest... Dude... History books are filled with facts that socialist and communists are always schemers and never keep their promises. You're shitstain in mankind's history.
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Says only people who don't understand what marxism and capitalism is.
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+Rob McCune There is no such thing as late stage capitalism. Literally every prediction Marx made went wrong.
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+Fish Knuckle Panic? Nah, no idea why you even view it as panic. It simply happens that internet allows press freedom in levels that exists no where else. In matter of fact, you see people's true opinions and news online instead of some corrupted mainstream news outlet. This is why it's called as intellectual dark web. Because it's not part of the mainstream source. It's the source that actually has biggest influence.
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+Revolutionary marxist leninist pingu All of his predictions went wrong. LITERALLY ALL OF THEM. If capital would be centralized into fewer and fewer hands. In that case we would have less millionares now, instead of having more of them than ever before. Not only that but we live in era where we have less people in extreme poverty than ever in human history. All of these achievements would be impossible if Marx were right. GDP has been debunked, it's bad way to measure buying power. As it was very high during world wars, but we all know that life during world war was far from luxury. Also number of wage is irrelevant. What you can have with it is more relevant. So what can someone with minimum wage in USA get for example? Computers, phones, drink weekly, apartment where to live, food and other smaller luxuries. It's more than kings during marx's time could have. Computer's and phones alone are the level of luxury that people of the past would've killed for. Also wages are all time high historically now than ever before. For example in nordic countries there are no minimum wage laws, yet they have one of the the highest wages on this planet. Corporate imperialism? Lol what? Not even close. You claim these things are facts, but in truth it shows that you haven't even looked into statistics. It's objective fact that world is in better shape than it ever was.
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+Nathan Drake 1. Nothing to do with accomodation of demands. Everything to do with better life quality. Wealth can be only created through time. Which is one of the fatal flaws of socialist and communist thinkers. Since they think that economics is zero sum game. Where one can only win when someone loses. This is not true. 2. Actually he did. Because it's not for interest of capitalist to pay low wage. In matter of fact most capitalist and free'est countries on the planet have highest wages on the planet. Also your obviously made propaganda piece as link (The bias is extremely obvious they they use word steal) is just idiotic. Number of the wage is irrelevant, what matters is what you can have with it. Even the poorest in modern era western countries lives better quality of life than kings did hundreds of years ago. In matter of fact you live pretty good life in western life no matter where you stand in economic level. For fuck sake, even unemployed people with less than minimum wage support they get from their states, can afford to have computer. 3.Aljazeera, you do realize that is actually propaganda paper? Literal propaganda paper made by government that supports slavery? Aka Propaganda made by Qatar government. They carry lot of anti-western sentiments there. Not only that... But you posted opinion piece. Income inequality is higher? Nope... As I said, were literally living in the time where we have least extremely poor, and most rich people ever on the planet. That shows that marx got it all wrong. Things didn't get worse, they got better than his tiny brains and brainless followers he had could ever predict. Nope, I didn't refute myself, as I pointed out that usually all the wealth gain will be lost in third generation. With more millionares than ever wouldn't be possible if capital would accumulate and never leave from the person. It would literally be impossible. There would be only few or couple millionares who owns everything if that were true.
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+Nathan Drake 1. You do not know what social democracy is, if you think that it's about public pension and universal healthcare. Historical social democracy has been about trying to achieve socialism through democratic means (aka through politics), instead of trying to achieve it through revolution. This is basics of understanding political science... Universal healthcare is simply nothing but forced charity that has lot of negative effects on the people who are suppose to benefit from it. 2. It's not stealing. You do not understand what word stealing means if it's about paying someone less than government somewhere demands. Stealing is when you take something that someone owns without their permission. This is not the case. Also false... The countries with highest wages in the west (like nordic countries) don't even have minimum wage laws. Also no... We do not have families who struggle. Not getting new iphone every week isn't a struggle. This comes from a guy who literally lived a decade with less than minumum wage in USA. In a country where living cost is higher. 3. What part of me stating that they hate west and try to undermine it you didn't get? Great... Now you're using blog as evidence... Do you even have any opinion formed by yourself or are you just a parrot? Shifting the number of the money is irrelevant if you fail to understand why it happened. Ever considered that value of money is not fixed and hence we need to take into account how much cheaper products are now days when compared into the past? Which is why with same amount of money you can actually get more. 4. Income equality is irrelevant. One having more than you isn't away from you. Also great depresion was caused by federal reserve. Which they even admitted decades later. But I doubt that socialist like you would be aware of it. We have less people in poverty than ever. Plus most countries that suffer from poverty are all socialist or communist countries. With almost 0 economic freedom. You keep insisting that one can only be rich if someone else is poor, but that is still fatally flawed logic. This is not the case. Which is why capital doesn't need to be equally distributed in order for there to be less poor. You literally don't even understand what wealth is. This is why you have fucked up perspective on economics. It would be literally impossible to current world stage to exists if marx was right. WE WOULD HAVE LESS MILLIONAIRES, AND MORE EXTREME POOR PEOPLE, if he was right. There wouldn't be increase in number of millionares. 5. No were not talking about them losing 90% of their wealth. But that 90% of the third generation of the children of the wealthy families, end up using ALL OF THEIR WEALTH AWAY. It was around 40-50% for second generation. This has been proven by science already. This is where the stereotype of rich wasteful and spoiled boy/girl comes from. In matter of fact you can see similar behavior with people who suddenly win in lottery and become millionares. Some of them literally spends it all in a week. You're having this weird delusion that only rich people can become rich or stay rich. While ignoring the reality that people keep dropping off from being rich to poor and middle-class all the time. As same time lot of poor and middle-class get to become rich. For fuck sake bill Gates came from middle-class family. He didn't earn is money from his parents. Same thing with Warren Buff. And more keeps coming. Only reason you support far left movements is because of your ignorance.
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+Nathan Drake I haven't ignored you. In fact it's the opposite. Only reason you think I'm "doubling down" is because you ignored me so much that you fail to comprehend my point. This is due you suffering from cognitive dissonance. You do not understand theft if you think that business owner is stealing from someone who they hired just because they both made voluntarily agreement on how much worker should be paid.
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+Nathan Drake How are they underpaid? Do you have mathematical formula to prove what is the exact value of their labor? Or is it rather that value is determined by seller and buyer's consent? Which is affected by the laws of supply and demand. It's illegal to pay less than you have made in contract. If something like that has happened, the business owner will lose their business. What the link you used, was saying that paying less than minimum wage is theft. Nothing about someone trying to pay less than what was agreed upon. As I said, that what you just described is already illegal and will ruin any corporation or company that would even try that. This shit doesn't happen in reality.
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+Nathan Drake Your article is meaningless as I already refuted it long time ago. Article spoke about that minimum wages are not respected in USA. This is not same as the contract written with someone. Plus whole Article is based on survey. Which leads to question it's validity. Since if you sue company for not paying what was promised. The company will go bankrupt. Also it's hilarious that moron like you talk about war on drugs and prohibition while having huge hard on for socialism. Your belief contradicts itself here. Also the biggest success companies actually pay more than minimum wage. Because most companies that earn the most literally are tech-firms and are having shortage on tech-people. Again, your whole article was based on survey. It might very well be illegal immigrants working as law mowers who took the participation to that. If capitalist were clearly incentives to pay workers as low as possible. Then in nordic countries that have no minimum wage laws at all... People should be forced to work for bread only. You're fucking joke, just like your idols.
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+Nathan the useful idiot. Also hilarious that socialists thinks that he has right to call someone as dishonest. Your whole ideology and characteristics are based on dishonesty. Never have socialist and communists kept their words.
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People actually reading about marx makes them realize how much of a bullshitter he was. Just like reading a bible turns people into atheists. So does reading marx's horrific texts that advocates mass murder do the same. There is nothing interesting in marxism unless you're a psychopath. PS: David would be hanged in socialist/communist society.
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