Comments by "snuffeldjuret" (@snuffeldjuret) on "Caller ATTACKS Krystal Ball u0026 Kyle Kulinski" video.

you mean she wasn't before? So her whole plea against Hillary was not far left?
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"...it feels more like she is trying to get even with the mainstream Left that has shunned her." ah so that is why she never complains about trump?
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but do you agree that it is possible that in 30 years, there is a scenario where we could be better of if Trump was elected to a second term compared to Biden's first?
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lol, the caller thinks he knows what he is talking about :P.
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exactly, only reason to be anti biden is if you believe biden is worse in the long run, even if he would be better in the short term. It is important to not confuse anti-biden with anti democrat hypocrisy though, which I believe Krystal is leaning more towards than Kyle. Kyle lives in California, so his vote wont matter anyway, he has the luxury to take a stance without facing any consequences.
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@Jcewazhere that is not hypocrisy though, it's "at best" ironic. CA and NY are interchangeable for my point so I chose to writer something shorter even though I wasn't sure if he actually lived in CA. I was also curious if anyone would correct me and how they would if so, and I guess that payed off :).
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@Jcewazhere not everything that is true is believable. Maybe you should consider the possibility of me being completely honest as I am right about it being ironic, not hypocritical, and that my point still stands if you exchange CA with NY. That should tell you that I am no dummy and probably can think ahead when writing comments. Although I have gotten two interesting replies from you, it is not nearly enough to satisfy my interest in you. What made you the way you are to write what you did? If you have time, please inform me :).
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@Spencerwalker21 but you get the point? If you argue against Trump in a poor way, it sounds like you are arguing against Biden.
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@Spencerwalker21 I didn't mean you specifically, just that the argument "'It's irresponsible and stupid not to vote against the war criminal, racist, sexual assaulting, wealth worshipping, mentally incompetent Presidential candidate!'" is poor.
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@Spencerwalker21 you have videos of him sniffing little girls and tells them no dating until they are whatever age, grabs at least one by the not yet existing boob. Many of them clearly reacting negatively to his advances. "Biden did vastly more than just vote for the war. Yet his role in bringing about that war remains mostly unknown or misunderstood by the public. When the war was debated and then authorized by the US Congress in 2002, Democrats controlled the Senate and Biden was chair of the Senate committee on foreign relations. Biden himself had enormous influence as chair and argued strongly in favor of the 2002 resolution granting President Bush the authority to invade Iraq." https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/17/joe-biden-role-iraq-war "Wealth worship idk but free college and student loan forgiveness doesn't mesh with that." Only because he is very pressured to do so. He would not have done it himself and as far as I know he argued against it since forever. "Mentally incompetent yeah when someone takes a 15 second clip out of a hour speech you can make anyone sound incompetent." So the same as Trump, which is my and SSky06's point. "even if people don't want to vote for biden we need to be careful and still express that you need to vote down ballot and for any ballot initiatives" Indeed, which is why voting 3rd party should not be demonized.
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@Spencerwalker21 you don't think by demonizing people voting 3rd party, more people will stay home and thus not vote down ballot? How is what you said congruent with saying "even if people don't want to vote for biden we need to be careful and still express that you need to vote down ballot and for any ballot initiatives" If you get control of the Senate you can block Trump from putting more people on the SC.
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@Spencerwalker21 not sure what you rant about. I already asked you "but you get the point? If you argue against Trump in a poor way, it sounds like you are arguing against Biden." to which you replied "yeah I get that...". No need for you to attack my character for no reason.
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@Spencerwalker21 I had a point, which you said you agreed with. Not sure what you want from me.
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@Spencerwalker21 if the alternative is not voting at all, voting all democrat except for president would be beneficial, no?
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@Spencerwalker21 I am not interested in having that discussion with you as you have shown you are in this discussion with bad faith.
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@Spencerwalker21 you previously said "so you didn't have an argument just offense ... an argument on why voting third party over Biden helps the progressive cause." To which I replied "if the alternative is not voting at all, voting all democrat except for president would be beneficial, no?" And you answered "it would be better ..." Yet now again you say "So you had no arguments just offense." That is an example of the bad faith I am talking about. You are not talking to me because you are not listening to what I am saying, you are talking to your twisted idea of me. I would like to give you the advice of reading up on, and following, "the principle of charity", to get away from that destructive habit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity Another example is this statement you made "even if people don't want to vote for biden we need to be careful and still express that you need to vote down ballot and for any ballot initiatives". When I express that I agree with you on this, instead of finding satisfaction in this, you instead scold me by claiming that I "... don't care about LGBT rights student loan forgiveness climate change fixing our Healthcare system ect." Unless you surprise me and write something meaningful in return, this will be my last reply to you. Btw, even Trump says LGBTQ, so maybe you should at least as well. You sound like a fake ally.
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@Spencerwalker21 actually it's not LGBTQA+, it's LGBTQIA+. You didn't say anything meaningful, but I had to correct you. And since you didn't look up and apply "the principle of charity", I'll quote the description right here in case you are too lazy to look up a link: "In philosophy and rhetoric, the principle of charity or charitable interpretation requires interpreting a speaker's statements in the most rational way possible and, in the case of any argument, considering its best, strongest possible interpretation. In its narrowest sense, the goal of this methodological principle is to avoid attributing irrationality, logical fallacies, or falsehoods to the others' statements, when a coherent, rational interpretation of the statements is available." Maybe you should not have forgotten about the golden rule btw: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
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@Spencerwalker21 I am not breaking the rule as I do onto you as I wish you would do onto me. I want you to argue in good faith, so I do that myself. I am showing you a moderate amount of respect because that is how I want to be treated as well. I am not assuming things about you as I don't want you to assume things about me, instead I solely go based on what you write. If there is something I want to know about you, I ask instead of assume. I try to follow "the principle of charity", because I want others to do it as well, so it is possible to have good conversations. I correct others when they are wrong as I think people should correct me when I am wrong. I do my very best to not stoop so low and belittle or insult those I have an argument with as I don't want others to do that while talking to me, not because I get easily offended but because avoiding that helps fostering a good conversation. Maybe this will make you reflect upon how you have treated me. Never did I say it is better to vote for Trump than Biden, or better to vote 3rd party than Biden. I am not even American so I can't vote, I live in Sweden.
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@Spencerwalker21 not sure why you think I am/got upset. I am only talking to you to see if I can find a reasonable person behind the words. You are the one that appears to be terribly upset given the tone in which you have written. You might have attempted to argue in good faith, but it wasn't something you did.
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you can't call it selfish if they aren't doing it for themselves.
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@jasonk8190 that is your perspective, and I could call you selfish. You all want the best thing and if wanting the best thing is selfish, you are selfish.
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@jasonk8190 and the fact is that e.g. Kyle is not selfish when he considers not voting for Biden. That is just a fact, that a Trump-fan-like person like you have to deal with. You can argue that it is bad, destructive etc, but it is not selfish.
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@jasonk8190 I am mirroring the nonsense I see coming from you.
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@jasonk8190 I am not allowed to vote as I am not an American citizen, so no need to try to shame me. But hey, it doesn't matter anyway as Trump already has the power and is now Hitler, so why bother voting at all according to your analogy?
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@jasonk8190 what says what about me? Be specific now. All this is besides the point though, you can argue that not voting Biden is bad, destructive etc, but it is not selfish if you do it because you think it is better in the long run for other people. You can argue that it isn't better in the long run for other people, but a motive is a motive even if doesn't turn out to be the outcome. Do you understand what I am saying?
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@jasonk8190 you claim you understand what I am saying, but your next sentence clearly shows you don't understand. How do you define selfish? If I do something, is the selfishness of that act based on my intent or the outcome?
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@jasonk8190 you talk about pride at the same time as you refuse to answer my question, which is critical to this conversation. That is quite ironic.
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@jasonk8190 again, this discussion is about selfishness, and selfishness is about intent, not outcome. It is not about what might be obvious to you, it is about intent, not outcome. That is why Kyle and Krystal aren't selfish, you have to look at their intent, not what you believe the outcome will be from their actions. Last time you said you understood that, but then went on to write something that contradicted that claim of understanding. Do you still claim to understand me? This discussion is about the definition of selfishness. Unless you define what selfishness is in your next reply, I am going to go ahead and ignore you because as it is now, this is a complete waste of time.
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