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Comments by "snuffeldjuret" (@snuffeldjuret) on "Trump PANICS, Tries to Scrub "Coronavirus Hoax" Clips" video.
link to yt-clip and time stamp please. If you know it exist it takes you so little time to provide actual evidence.
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@monicad5270 he said "this is their new hoax". So right there you have failed to provide evidence for him saying "The Coronavirus is Democratic hoax.". Do you concede or do we need to keep going?
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@joemercieca4794 and we have three choices. Interpret it in the worst possible manner, the most reasonable manner or the most charitable manner. I choose the most reasonable manner. Irrational Anti-Trumpers choose the worst interpretation and irrational Trump fans choose the most charitable interpretation. It should give the people in this comment section pause that they are just like irrational Trump fans, choosing the interpretation that satisfied them.
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@jons9621 that has to be the most futile attempt at an insult I have seen in my entire life. Congratulations, troglodyte.
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I am neither his minion nor dumb, and I agree with snopes: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/?collection-id=242252
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Keena Tucker did you find any?
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@jons9621 haha. Very funny. I understand that you think everyone did as you did it yourself.
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@joemercieca4794 he meant that the democrat perpetrates the hoax that Trump is doing to little about the virus. Obviously he did too little, but that is till what Trump meant. It becomes very clear if you actually listen to what he said, and more than just one sentence.
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@jons9621 do you seriously think I am a fan of Trump? If so, you really need to rethink your view of people. I am not even American, so it is beyond my why you all won't support Bernie.
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if you think it is clear, provide a citation, including the context, where he says it and explain why your interpretation is more reasonable than mine.
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King Yellowman you ought to know that that line does not address my point.
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King Yellowman I am not saying that the democrats criticism was a hoax, I am saying that is what he meant. So it is useless for you to explain to me something I already know. The only think you get wrong is that "He called the virus a hoax". He did not, literally. And that is why the fact checking websites side with me, not you: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/
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King Yellowman no need to repeat yourself. Go read the snopes article and then tell me what they get wrong in it.
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King Yellowman OK so because you can't say what they got wrong you just say they got it wrong. Brilliant. And as I said, no need to repeat yourself.
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King Yellowman what exactly did he say? Citation needed. Cite what snopes got wrong. You can't go on presenting your interpretation as the truth, you have to provide citations.
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King Yellowman if you won't make the effort and cite him I have no interest in taking this conversation further. An honest discussion about what a person have said must include citations.
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King Yellowman well, regarding the hoax line. That is what we are discussing. "15 cases, soon to be zero" is in line with him saying that he is on top of the problem. So you are not really presenting an argument for why he says the virus is a hoax.
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@UCBR20WjA4kGijvAKZpNvpdw "your defense is that..." I am not defending anything, I am only interested in what Trump said. Out of curiosity, did you notice that he said that the lack of cases in the U.S. at that time didn't mean that there wouldn't be deaths from the virus in the future?
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King Yellowman https://youtu.be/G5TZ6fTYrsE?t=92 There you have it. For full context, start at 1:20
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King Yellowman nope, he is calling it a hoax that he isn't prepared. He wasn't prepared, but that is not what we are talking about. If you would cite him literally saying it is a hoax, you would have legs to stand on. But you don't dare citing his sentence he is using hoax in because it hurts your argument. That shows how dishonest you are, and you call me brainwashed when I can easily disprove you by providing a video with a timestamp. Unless you have something great to say in your next reply, i am done with this nonsense.
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I don't understand how anyone can look at the original video and not understand what he said as "the Dems new hoax they are perpetrating is that I (Trump) am not doing enough about it". I challenge anyone reading this to cite, word for word, what Trump said. In full context, and show me how I am wrong.
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@ChinaxxlGreen-hq2eq cite it then. I have never see anyone give a citation of where Trump says it.
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@kylemcdonnell86 I believe this is what people call fact resistant. I remember when people at least tried to act as if the truth mattered.
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@ChinaxxlGreen-hq2eq as you are not blind and deaf, what EXACTLY did he say? Cite him and I will prove you wrong if you are wrong on even just one word, so don't be careless now.
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@birchtree2274 https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/?collection-id=242252
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@yolandadenny8692 https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/?collection-id=242252 Do I really need to spam this?
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@jons9621 It was a nod to how you were projecting. I did use it correctly: "a stupid person who ... behaves in a way that is not considered socially acceptable"
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@jons9621 you are conducting yourself very poorly. That is not socially acceptable. And again you are projecting with the "Pathetic attempt to save face" comment.
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@jons9621 starting a conversation by saying "Did you eat paint chips as a kid?" is not conducting yourself quite well. "You are just embarrassed that you have been outwitted." Again, you are projecting. If you do this more we probably need to exchange your lamp.
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@vidguy007 I have watched it, and he says "and this is their new hoax" as I said 16 hours ago when I watched that specific video. So what is your point? You should expect me to get that far when there is proof in this very comment thread that I did. Trying to make me look stupid only makes you look stupid.
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@vidguy007 that is a moot point though because the discussion is about if he called the virus a hoax or his supposed lack of action a hoax. I am not a Trump supporter btw, I am not even American. As I am Swedish I obviously "support" Bernie regarding your (I presume) election. I am amazed that this has to be pointed out for people to correctly interpret what I write. Can you shed some light on why that is?
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@darkeimp555 the discussion is about the distinction. Don't like it, don't participate.
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@jons9621 weak.
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@vidguy007 he used both the words politicizing and hoax. Did you watch the entire clip? Not sure what you mean with "Is politicalization of a hoax?"
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@jons9621 I didn't call you weak if that was what you were thinking, I was calling your argument weak. The fact that this is a YouTube comment sections doesn't make your behavior OK. Funnily enough I didn't take your for a person frantic enough to post numerous comments to one comment, so I missed a rant of yours. "Sure it is." No it isn't. "... save face in an argument you lost a long time ago." You don't even know what my argument is. "...at that point you had zero context to make that claim." I had your comment. "...you have difficulty using proper English..." I am not a native English speaker, so sew me. Oh well, this was incredibly useless and boring. As you are so focused on winning and saving face, I'll give you the last word you so desperately need. Don't worry, I won't read it so you can say whatever you like.
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@vidguy007 don't repeat yourself, clarify your thoughts.
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@TheOzthewiz he didn't phrase it like that. If you phrase it like that I understand why you make the interpretation you do. But if you actually look at the exact words he used, the reasonable interpretation is the one that snopes did.
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@vidguy007 well, at least you agree with me.
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@vidguy007 the nonsense is you thinking you disagree with me, because you think I support Trump. You actually agree with me, but you won't see that until you accept the possibility that you might actually agree with me. Also, I thought you blocked me?
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@scotthullinger9955 oh no, observing all the shenanigans you are up to is great entertainment :). It is also good to widen your perspective, to not just look at things going on withing your own country (even if it is a big one).
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@scotthullinger9955 my arguments are solid, the problem is that he had none and started with unbridled nonsense.
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@scotthullinger9955 Because I care about other people.
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@scotthullinger9955 Nothing? I am just saying that I care about other people, not just myself. So what happens within the borders of other countries is not something I ignore, even if those things doesn't directly affect me. Not sure how this can be confusing to you.
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