Comments by "Chaos Corner" (@chaos.corner) on "The Wayland Linux Screensaver Dilemma" video.

It's like a used car salesman telling you you didn't really need a radio or windows that wind down anyway.
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@CjqNslXUcM That's funny cause the older I get, the more I realize that other people have different wants and needs to me and that my aren't applicable to everyone. Also one of the great things about open source is choice. I don't really care either way. I don't use screensavers and I don't have any urgency for Wayland.
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@CjqNslXUcM Right. I do think this is something of a special case because their aim is to replace an existing solution. That means not being cavalier about the use cases you support IMO. Also, I do support your appreciation for minimalism (I'm currently working on a project which throws away about 98% of the usual Linux userspace) but I think there should be choice and that generally implies flexibility in the underlying systems which are there to serve the user and not the whims of the developer (though Open source does lean towards the latter, again, I would say this is a special case)
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@BrodieRobertson Who's going to go to that effort when the devs are saying it's not a feature they want or are going to support in the protocol?
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@BrodieRobertson Your own poll says 5% of people use screensavers. Do some multiplication. That's far from nobody.
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@BrodieRobertson That's reciprocal though for something like Wayland. If you want application developers to make their applications work on your system, you need to make it attractive to the people who will be using those applications. This whole "You'll eat what you're given" attitude is a big red flag. Besides which, for someone, somewhere, screensavers are a must-have feature. Taking a flippant attitude to peoples' use-cases is no bueno.
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X did not really have screensavers in the early days. It was a heavily requested feature and was eventually made properly usable. Of course, new devs are going to reinvent the wheel...
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@BrodieRobertson Apparently some users have been making the case or this would not be an issue. How hard are people with no leverage supposed to fight before they give up and walk away?
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@BrodieRobertson Maybe they're all using xorg or windows. I don't care, I stopped using screensavers a long time ago. I just think the attitude is a poor one.
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@BrodieRobertson What percentage of those people even use Wayland? I don't generally go around opening issues for projects that I don't use. It's starting to sound like rationalization for a poor design decision to me. That's really what I take issue with (I don't use screensavers but life - and software - isn't all about me). I think you should give steelmanning the other side a try.
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X screensavers and lockers didn't really work that well in the early days. It took someone to fix it (I have no idea how X works but maybe some kind of extension) and eventually it worked.
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That's just Bill Gates haunting you.
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@BrodieRobertson I'm familiar and sympathetic to the concept. I just don't think it's the whole story in this case.
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