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Comments by "Chaos Corner" (@chaos.corner) on "Elon Musk ACTUALLY built this Loop Extension!" video.
Not being familiar with London, I once used the underground to travel what looked like a really long distance (and taking a fair amount of time to do so) for what was, in reality, only a few blocks over and could have been walked in five minutes. Perhaps something similar happened here.
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@davecom3 For sure. It's one of the oldest and in constant heavy use and a political football so it's easy to see the reasons for that. I'd say New York's was worse but that's not saying much.
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@sorh I've also done it the other way where what looked like a few stops actually turned out to be several miles. The underground map is great for readability but not necessarily for navigation.
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@TheWatchernator There will be ways to deal with it. Probably insurance included in the cost of using the self-driving (if that's a service of the company) or the driver of the car (if the self-driving is part of the car). It's still a long way off though but that means there's plenty of time to work these things out.
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@michaelsommers2356 It can't right now either. What's your point?
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@anzaca1 Maybe. That sounds a bit like histrionics to me (I'm actually just more skeptical that self-driving will actually be usable anytime soon). We'll have to wait and see, I guess.
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@DyeJoeBlue There are also reasons to believe it will be safer than a normal real person because normal real people were not designed to be piloting a ton of metal travelling at speeds in excess of 10 times what we're typically capable of propelling ourselves. There are a lot of obstacles to overcome but pessimism isn't really warranted.
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@zwerko By improving the technology?
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@michaelsommers2356 That was not really my implication. It was a suggestion about how accidents would be covered. Cars already consist of a combination of human and manufacturer provided systems, either of which can malfunction at any time resulting in damage, injury or death. After that, there are two issues, liability and culpability. Liability to be handled by insurance, culpability to be handled by existing or newly enacted laws, presumably. This isn't nearly as complicated as you want it to be.
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@michaelsommers2356 To be clear, it will be accepted that AI will make some mistakes. Just as it is accepted that people will make mistakes and that manufacturing defects happen. If/when AI becomes accepted, those numbers will be much lower than for human drivers and other factors will make it an attractive proposition too.
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@michaelsommers2356 Well, TheWatchinator asked "who's responsible?". I was looking at the financial aspect. So I'll repeat that that wasn't my intended implication. Clearly if you're looking for culpability, that is another issue, probably to be settled in courts and will likely come down to whether due diligence has been carried out.
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@michaelsommers2356 I agree. And I do personally think that it is a lot further off than many think. I do think it is ultimately attainable though. Of course, Skynet may murder us all well before then.
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