Comments by "Deus Ex Homeboy" (@DeusExHomeboy) on "Strongman Robert Oberst's 20,000 Calorie Strongman Diet: FUEL" video.
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CurrencyPrime "One of the best". Claim made, prove it. I don't see any trophies, and there's tens of thousands of strongmen in the world, if not more, and you have nothing to deny that there's people who do better than him at lesser, overall calorie cost, conclusion; his diet, and causally, body is inefficient.
People like you only suck up on other people's beings and leech off them, just to feel less worthless. The typical "Oh, since you're not a participant in the action, you cannot criticise it, but oh yes, all praises are welcome, since we're little butthurt kids who can't deal with any kind of scrutiny, due to psychological inadequacies." Sorry, now I know ^-^.
All I did, was accurately describe his incorrect overestimation of what he needs. He fucking feels dizzy not doing anything if he doesn't get all that flesh deep in him.
If he DID actually have a clear understanding of how HIS body worked, he wouldn't be looking like a pig, but would be fitter.
But then of course, most people like you, like to warp the idea of fitness to suit yourself and your ideas, rather than admitting fault.
"I am the best in the world at doing X activity, because nobody else does it, so I am the champion and the authority and everyone else is wrong. Oh look, we have a competition where people numbering from hundreds to thousands, and not 7 BILLION, let's pull titles out of our steroid filled asses, like "world's strongest man", because logic. Good job sucking the fuck out of this ideology tho :D.
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Al Simons No, not necessarily. Think of this guy as a Hummer. Huge, strong, and had made itself dependent on huge amounts of energy to function, But 20,000 is not the number.
The more energy his body gets, the LESS efficient his body will need. Because there is Morbid amounts of energy being supplied constantly.
Here's another, clearer example:
US military.
They get a lot of funds,to do their things, right?
So they spend it, here and there, throughout the year, building things, training people etc.
Say, it gets around 50 Billion in funding. But only ends up spending, say, 30 billion out of that.
At the end of the year, they say "50 billion well spent, we were stretched thing, but we managed, it is the exact amount we need to work.
Now, someone else might be sceptical about the figures, how is it even possible to spend 50 billion when the OUTPUT is NOT tallying up.
And then, some "patriot" comes, and tells them, "Hey, you need to shut the fuck up you bigot anti-american guy, you don't know what they're doing, they're protecting us from the islamists, bla bla bla, fallacy of appealing to authority, blabla bla".
So, this is the situation with Robert, and all the "calorie patriots" here.
Remember Ends do not justify the means. And Co-relation does not IMPLY causation.
Like if I ate 50 newborn chicks everyday, and then grow to be 8 feet tall, I can just attribute it to my growth, so I can justify eating a stupid amount of baby chicks, and nobody can say anything, since they haven't done the "exact same things as me", which according to most people here, is the only way you can judge someone else's actions, lol..
Yes, he got something, and lost something. Well, he isn't a "smartman" after all, so I shouldn't even have taken his "conviction of 20000" seriously, and just ignored it, but you see all these other kids and their butthurtly dumb comments? Hilarious.
Here is something to weigh it around: There will be Dozens if not hundreds of HUGE and MASSIVE strongmen, who actually won a GOLD, and in multiple occasions(unlike our 20000 calorie god), and DID NOT need 20000 calories to do it, let alone the training leading up to it. Does this not show that he DOES NOT NEED it? He might WANT IT, but he Literally, Does Not Need it. He might say he does, but that does nothing to change reality otherwise.
Oberst might be something special probably, thaa chosen golden child. We'll just have to wait and watch ;). Or not wait, just watch randomly if the thought returns 20 years later. :D
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J.M. Lindner I think someone who deliberately continues pretending like they're right, despite being destroyed in all departments, factual or otherwise.
Yes, your lack of ability to "pay attention" to anything, seems to be your major cause of your denial, and desperate evasion of reality. When someone mentions a mistake of yours, you can either accept fault, or waste energy defending something that isn't even there in the first place.
I am not projecting my ego. I merely stated a factual truth of him being terrible at calorie management, let alone all the dirty shit he consumes on the way. Of which there is clear evidence, by the distribution of fat in his body, and fat's just one of the problems.
No glass houses here.. I do wish my room had one more window tho, helps make a good oath for air drafts.
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J.M. Lindner When you write "You're" instead of "your", it does show that you put in conscious effort to type 2 extra keys, thinking that it was the right one.
Worse yet, when someone else remarks at your mistake, you AGAIN, always start by getting butthurt and lashing back, in some effort to undermine or completely disregard the statement.
When just admitting your fault (even silently), would save you the bother of ever typing the wrong your/you're again, but again, your shadow of an ego, pops up and makes you feel like you have some authority to reject truth, simply because it does not consonate with what you think of yourself. Why? Because you live life thinking that whatever you think is justified, and you prefer to reject an idea than to accept being wrong.
Just admitting fault can save you so much effort. But again, to fix the dissonance, you would rather wage war about it than admit and stop making the mistake.
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Aldo Vazquez I understand, But he STILL, eats the same factory food, industrialised foods, all kinds of unhealthy shit, and Several Times More, too. So, he DOES have a higher propensity for disease and death.
Also, the only time one would become fat, is when they are eating more than they need to. (or they have genetic deficiencies, but that's used more as an excuse).
Twice the weight ain't twice as big, somewhat. Phelps is 1.93 meters himself. Which is not half of this guy's size. AND Swimming IS one of the HIGHEST burners of Calories, and I can bet literal money on the fact that Phelps swims more than this guy Eats and Lifts.
So, he eats twice, though he needs half, and Phelps does Twice, in Half. So he's reduced his physical efficiency down to 1/4th?
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CurrencyPrime Lol, I do, but kids like you can't hold complex rules for reality. Your brain functions on things like "X works at Y and has spent quite some time there, X knows everything about Y and everyone else is wrong, other than the people who praise X, because hypocritical double standards"
You must just be a low functioning human being, with basic social-survival intellect, and can't think complex thoughts or process information that makes you look like a sycophantic suckup, but I think I just have to remind you this:
You are the one who got butthurt here, all I did, was write a comment on the video and left. You were the one who got butthurt and had to write something (even though completely unsubstantiated, and merely pulled out of your own ass). Whatever happened after that, was just me replying to people writing on my OP. so, time to self-reflect for you ^-^.
Wow, kids like you are stupid enough for me to feel like I have to waste my time writing these things, or maybe nobody else ever might for you, and then you'll just remain as dumb and ignorant as you are now, so I'm kinda trying to help you <3.
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Don Megga Mariusz Pudzinaowski and mark felix, two examples.
Here, read this yourself, if you want to remove your misinformation.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-23574005
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Felix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariusz_Pudzianowski
What Idiot, will use having FOUR INCHES MORE, as an Excuse to east almost THREE TIMES THAT OF SOME STRONGMEN, and STILL LOSE, and STILL continue on the same path? :<
" Also I have better things to do that disliking a video of a scrawny little kid." *Yes, Like going to people's channels while participating in a completely unrelated argument, just to find potential ad hominem dirt to throw at them. Not that I mind, since I know its origin.* <3
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***** Oh good god, yes I have, since it was IN the video.
Of course I won't be running behind a strongman trophy, just how I won't be running behind a figure ice skating. They're all petty titles that people chase all their lives, when all they ever had to do, was to realise their strength themselves, lol.
A "TITLE" is a TITLE, not the "TRUTH". "Miss Universe, DOES NOT MEAN, Mistress of the universe. "Mister World, DOES NOT mean mister of the world. "Strongest man trophies" DO NOT make the person "The Strongest man". It's just a human concept, and equally petty. Just because a bunch of people start caring about these things, doesn't change their worthlessness and arbitrariness.
What does the number of trophies he has, have anything to do with anything?
If a guy who has 1 more award than him, comes an tells him that he is an idiot, then you will probably believe him instantly, because of the 1 more trophy he has, lol.
I Guarantee to you, that even if he wanted, he wouldn't be able to hold his breath for more than a few seconds, and would lose to little kids. Should I call him a loser who can't even hold his breath for longer than little Children, but still calls himself a "strongman"? Lol, no. Because that's how idiots think.
He didn't win trophies on calorie utilization mastery, nor did he win the national trophy of knowing what to eat, and knowing how much one needs to eat.
I Can use the same trophy argument in the other direction and just say "Nope, he doesn't count for shit, since he has no world championship trophies." But then I would just be deliberately lowering my logic, just to feel like I am making sense.
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Anthony Bachour Difference between "Huge calorie intake to maintain body fat" and "consuming 20,000, Ten times the average calories".
" Also I don't know your goals but being 6'1'' at only 165lbs is nothing to brag about ;)" Wrong. You are the one brining out his dimensions, do you not think it sensible for a context and contrast?
But of course, someone who's set on defending the guy, will certainly think anyone who mentions a number, is "bragging", lel.
"You also know nothing about nutrition if you think that maintaining 400lbs body weight while doing extremely demanding physical exercise doesn't require a way above average calorie intake."
*Wrong again, but you have already drawn long conclusions,so*.
There's a difference between maintaining 400 pounds of non-fat, Lean muscle AND Between hitting the 400 number with a huge belly and stuffing oneself calling it "training food, extreeemeee".
Of course, he's taken the easy way in. Like most do anyway, which is not a surprise.
Also remember fat is lighter than bones and muscle.
And you ACTUALLY think that a man whose 6'8'', has to "work hard to maintain 400 pounds". Lewl.
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Anthony Bachour "Do you even lift? This man needs so many calories because he's on a quest to become as strong as possible. He's 6'8" which is hardly average and needs to maintain 400lbs body weight so he can be competitive. He has a reason for eating so much and I don't think he's worried about dying of clogged arteries as he's already decided to go on a cocktail of drugs to be able to reach this level."
I do occasionally, Lift, yes. Not in the gym, at home. I can handle myself, and don't break like a twig.
Healthwise, I am much less likely to die of a disease, and much probable to live a longer life,etc,etc,less bp, less stress,etc (unless some fucker drives me over.... fuck, that'd suck.)
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Ok, so, I am 6'1''. around 165 lbs. but I KNOW i will Never Even need 10,000 calories a day, Let alone 15 to 20,000 (Used the numbers to give you an idea. I'm still not half his size. Weight maybe, but more weight doesn't require more calories, to be weight, there's just a constant putting on and off of weight.
Yes, he does heavy workouts, and I'll probably never be able to do them, but heck, I would never become like that, in the "mission to become the strongest". His training is also consistent of LIMITED, Specific Workouts. Or you would be able to tell, just by looking at him, what he focuses on; Food and Lifting.
Also, the term "Strong" is ambiguous and often revolves around the limited perception of the humans of a particular time period.
Since you asked me whether I lifred, *Ask him this, "Do you even run?"
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Za Warudo... WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA The idea of an "average man" again, I suppose, differs depending on geographical regions. I've lived in places where people couldn't drive to work, because there were no roads, so they climbed mountains everyday, and then worked on the mountains.
Also; "say everyone starts doing really bad in the tests one day, and you're the only one who scores relatively higher marks. But, did the others lowering their own level of scoring, suddenly make you better?" Yes, but only in comparison :D
Someone still has to explain to me, How he manages to burn 20,000 Calories, in under SIXTEEN HOURS? He sure as fuck doesn't look like someone who can exercise for long amounts of time in a stretch. More of an explosive strength kind of guy. That makes it more likely for him to workout even less in a day.
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onlymoneyloves You are misinformed if you think I give a fuck about lay minded people giving a fuck about what I say. Therefore, your fucks, become irrelevant.
Leeeeel, Your idea of what "matters", seems to be copied from the general population around you. Do you even think anyone's gonna remember his "uber 20000 calorie diet of manliness", a few years in the future, when people realise how pathetic a diet like this is? Of course you do. Wishful thinking is strong in this one.
"I'll just play this charade I am surrounded by and pretend like it's the shit, since there's idiots idiotic enough to buy it, and then we'll all close our ears and scream at any other opinion, until we die, so we never have to face reality." lelelele
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Nas Weekes Ok. I'll just put some more detail into the facts here>, rather than just looking at the points that support your argument.
Marius Pudzinaowski
February 7, 1977 (age 37)
Other names Dominator, Pyton, Pudzian
Nationality Polish
Height 186 cm (6 ft 1 in)
Weight 142 kg (313 lb)
So, Marius is EIGHT years older. only FOURTY Kilos LESS, and only SEVENTEEN Centimetres shorter. Has actually won a gold (If you are the kind of person who takes medals as something important, which is likely.)
Robert Oberst
December 20, 1984 (age 29)
United States United States
Other names "OB"
Occupation Strongman
Height 203 cm (6 ft 8 in)
Weight 181 kg (399 lb
This boy, is ONE HUNDRED Pounds heavier, and only SEVEN inches taller, and ALSO YOUNGER, But FATTER, and WEAKER, and MORE CALORIE DEPENDENT. It's called being a fatty who eats 20,000 Calories in a day, can lift some weight.
I Just don't see the logic, maybe there is none to him.
Coorelation does not automatically imply causation.
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Krešimir Duvnjak You're wrong.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2177613/Michael-Phelps-12-000-calories-day-dont-doing-harm.html
Please, do explain how "phelps swimm*ed and eat a lot, that's true, but swimming is less calorie demanding than strongman training. I must say, you obviously don't know what a strongman training looks like. "
Phelps eats 12000 Calories in a day (He's skinnier and 4 inches shorter, and STILL TAKES THIS MUCH ENERGY), " swimming is less calorie demanding. " Lol...
Also, Since you like the basic societal mentality of perception and 'value', The Fatty hasn't won a single world championship gold, and Phelps has more than I remember.
And I'm not even defending or attacking anyone, lol. People should do some checking before they waste their own time, and mine :|...
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***** It's not my fault, that people, repeatedly use the same reasoning. "You can't say anything about him because you are not a strongman yourself." Etc,etc.
Totem did point again, at "my lack of being a strongman.", Even if not entirely basing it upon oberst.
So I guess only a mad man can call another mad man, mad. I guess asylums should be run by crazies, and Managers who've never played football themselves, should just shut the fuck up and not tell the footballers what they're doing wrong, etc.etc.
This is not a competition, I am not ahead, and neither is anyone else. It's just a remark, that some people seem to take offence at. *Despite themselves, feeling like they have some authority to defend him and then tell me things like* "You can't say anything because [insert random argument here]"...
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Don Megga Oh god, another one. I just hope you didn't go disliking my videos just to feel like you won anything, like most people do. It's really a pain in the ass, lol.
Now, here's something for you to consider: the 9 above him, didn't take his diet, and outdid his ass IN EVERY WAY(which is why he lost). You can only burn so much energy in a day, and 20,000 is not it, not with his "workout", which probably consists more of cooking, eating and shitting than training. That's why he's so fat, he's probably not seen his own dick in ages. I don't know what you are even defending. There is a DIFFERENCE between a Nutritional diet, and a CALORIE heavy diet. GUESS which one his is?? If he actually ate Proper food, he wouldn't be able to stuff enough to get that much. That's why he eats shit full of shit, where everything is replaced with calories.
If he actually gave a shit about doing HIS VERY POSSIBLE BEST. He wouldn't look like a pig who just got lucky at being big as well. He doesn't care about that, he doesn't mind being the freak if people throw money at him for doing it. Talk about "Being a strong man competitor". He's just like you; Lost in numbers, medals, and the fad of his time period, and defending and continuing it, because it saves him from more cognitive dissonance.
"bla bla bla, Look at his medaaaalsssssss look at the moulded, plated metalll, it means so mucchh, it is soo much proooofffff, Loook thizzz facctzzz". jee. Petty Argumentum ad populum and Ad hominems.
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Don Megga So, doesn't the " One case of a strongman that actually eats obsessively insane amounts of calories everyday, but doesn't manage to beat the OTHER strongmen around him, who can easily go with 7500" ALSO come under the same "It shows nothing of substance since it's just one fat guy?
. THIS is what I meant, by empty calories, and proper nutritional food.
You do also realise, that Oberset is YOUNG as fuck, and STILL so damn fat and energy cookoo already.
"And yes I looked at your video, it is relevant because you are the only one who is attacking the guy on his diet and physique... so of course I had to wonder what you actually looked like."
- Fair enough. BUT, Again, I am not "attacking" him by mentioning the poor logic behind his diet. It's not "attacking", simply pointing out the obvious mistake, some may call it criticism.
If me criticising him, is "attacking", then anyone else Praising him, is "kissing his ass".
You can't just be like "Ok, we're letting all the praises through now, ok keep the praises coming, keep all the good feedback up... OH WAIT, A CRITICISM??!! YO POUNCE THIS H88888ER, for hating and attacking someone with text boxes!!!" Can't have exceptions like that. brings Flaws of personal Bias, which is detrimental to you, ultimately ;v
My simple point was that Mark Felix is only 4 inches shorter and 100ish pounds less, yet can do BETTER than oberest, literally, like better in terms of stats and all that, with almost ONE THIRD the calorie intake, and he was just ONE of all the examples.
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Don Megga Yes, because that's what he's eating like. I'd call anyone who eats absurd amounts of food based on some assumption as an excuse, a pig, At least if their video shows up on my feed, and the comment section is open.
"Also you still fail to mention a simple point that I made twice... the current champions are fatter than Oberest" < I see, But you have to yet show me where they also consume 20,000 calories a day to win all the golds (which Oberst hasn't, even though I don't care about that, but it seems to apparently matter).
Since they're "fatter" than oberst, should'nt they be needing EVEN MORE CALORIES than oberst, by the Pattern of the logic seen here. "X is bigger, X is justified to eat any amount of food, and ultimately just say 'i'm... bigger...' and nobody can say anything".
Also, Mark, as I mentioned, takes only around 7500 calories, despite being 6'4'' and around 350 pounds. How does ~100 more pounds justify eating almost three times the calories, and still lagging behind?
ALSO, Muscle is Denser than Fat, you know what that sums up to ;).
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Conner H Actually you didn't get what I meant.
The shit he eats, and the amount of it that he eats, IS a health issue, and don't tell me that strongmen can't die of disease. Also, remember. a "strong guy life" is not the same as a "healthier life".
I don't eat shit like that, and DO statistically, have a better chance of living a longer AND HEALTHIER life.
"Also, i don't understand why it's so unbelievable to you that he needs 20,000 calories to maintain his 400 pounds of body mass" You didn't read the comment above yours, where Megga himself, tells you how there are WORLD CHAMPIONS who WEIGH MORE, yet EAT LESS. So you can SAY that he "needs the 20,000 to remain unsuccessful in winning a strongman championship, while others can take the cup at around 7000 calories, EASY.
"And finally, i don't get why you're critiquing what Robert is doing to reach his goals. Why don't you go fucking do something instead of bitching about how much one of the strongest men in the world eats."
Think of the judge and the murderer, and their lack of relative experience of each other's actions, yet look at the judgements. "OH JUDGE, YOU can't Say I'm guilty, you Can't say that I am a murderer, because YOU'VE NEVER KILLED ANYONE, therefore DO NOT possess the authority to say ANYTHING to me." Same goes for you and your politicians. Don't you fucking dare to insult ANY politician on what they do, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT A POLITICIAN. DUDE, Talk about fucked up, self-fulfilling garbage logic.
Lol, the hypocrisy. Didn't you Think this when you were typing? You're here, criticising/ backlashing a butthurt, about how I'm supposed to "stop bitching and go do something", and what are you doing? Sucking on the teats of a guy who doesn't even know you exist, and you're busy sucking up to him, maybe to fire motor neurons to make you feel whatever you long for.
I didn't go up to his house to insult him. HIS VIDEO loaded on MY FEED, and is in the PUBLIC DOMAIN, and OPEN TO CRITICISM. If you Can't take a fucking criticism, you're not fucking worthy of the bother of a praise. As I mentioned before, but the world wouldn't be as fucked as it is, if people actually accepted their faults in the first go, lol.
Go cry somewhere else.
And YES, this debate is stupid, because most people getting butthurt here, can't read the previous comments and then Keep typing the same shit again and again, and I have to keep coming and correcting them and their biased delusions.
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ipoomini I understand. But really, man. Using analogies does help, But then Mariuz, felix, and all the other guys, are ALSO planes. and Seem to run perfectly fine (Actually BETTER) at around 7500 Calories, when this one needs around 20000 Calories, just to not feel dizzy. He's not much bigger. Over me, having around 17 centimetres, and 220 pounds, causes him to need around TEN TIMES the energy. Really, it's obvious that he doesn't NEED that energy, he just THINKS that he needs it, and forcing this onto his body, conditioning his body to depend on more energy than before to to the same tasks.
I have drawn comparisons with half a dozen other strongmen, who ALL have MORE(actually have golds too) trophies, awards, etc,etc. All at the cost of around HALF, That's TEN Thousand Calories LESS, and Almost the same size if not bigger.
Doesn't add up.
Let's take the following analogy as example:
I am a wrestler(yes i know it's just entertainment, w/e). I ate 30000 calories in a day. Then I managed to "win a belt" somehow, and did fair amounts of training. Now, I can credit me winning my belt and being "so strong" to the calories I eat. And my fans will agree to it and mimic the thought.
But then what about all the other people around me who're just as strong if not stronger, and didn't eat as much as me? Well, I and my fans will simply disregard them, and go back to using me as the justification for my own actions.
That's not how logic works for me.
Also, Swimmers and cross country cyclists, and other sportsmen like these, are the ones who "go on non stop". Not strongmen. They have breaks.
Ultimately, YES, he is BIGGER AND STRONGER(and fatter), a Strongman, and DOES NEED a buttload more Calories in a day than an "average" person, but yo, 20,000 is NOT THAT AMOUNT.
It doesn't affect me in ANY WAY. If he gets a stroke or something, I am not the one who's gonna be flailing on the ground.
Even though it is entirely possible for me to get a stroke, but sure as fuck not as likely as him, along with a legion of other diseases.
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Most people here just appeal to authority. Which is a logical Fallacy. But that happens almost everywhere since it's become the "social norm" way of talking where everyone's got flawed and poor debating skills, but they all consider each other competent, and skilled, as to not realise their own shortcomings, and come to random conclusions, but concur them to be true, as to again, not realise their own shortcomings.
Because it's human propensity to seek mental 'stability' and 'sense of being right', than actually facing and admitting reality. They're not helpless to it, It's just a propensity, but I guess it's preferred. But again, Billions of people in this world are religious, Sure as fuck doesn't prove them to be right... well at least they can keep their thoughts, as long as they do not go outside their herds, because that's where their delusions are open to be destroyed by others who see their fallacy.
Holy fuck, 150 comments about whether a human NEEDS 20,000 calories or not. Remember, I said NEED not WANT or FEELS LIKE. There's a clear fucking difference lel....
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Elvis Florian True. Yes, I never denied how strong he was, which is evident from his actions. But at the same time, that doesn't justify the amount of food he eats for it. There is a reason for why I've made this conclusion: There's been dozens of other people, who've WON the GOLD, with almost ONE THIRD of the energy that Oberst "needs", to win some smaller state or other championships. But good luck to him, It's either adapt, or "don't win the gold he wants to win so bad", we might get to see, in time :D
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tickyul Yes, I did, thus the criticism.
He doesn't "need" 20 k calories everyday to do the things he does. How the fuck does a person fit enough workout to burn 20k calories in a day (24 hours MINUS sleep, shower, eating, shopping,shitting,etc,etc.)? That's right, he doesn't, that's why the stomach.
Ends don't justify the means, or maybe they do, but only in a base levelled debate.
He could still maybe kill me with a well timed punch. lol >.>
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