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I have lost all respect for this channel I thought it was a science channel not failed science propaganda channel. Science data shows that CO2 follows temperature changes, the insignificant positive reinforcement has magnitudes less influence than other factors. This is a disgrace you should be ashamed. The "vast majority of climate scientists" make their living from this fabrication so of course they push the idea. Then you dismiss anyone who disagrees by claiming it's evil "businesses with vested interests" . This is a weak pathetic argument that isn't even based in science. Why don't you point out all the climate models have been wrong. I'll tell you who has a "vested" interest all the crony capitalists and pandering politicians who make a fortune off the uninformed public.
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Its a religion not a science. It has all the markings of a religion such as the Christians believe in a 6 thousand year earth, the Warmers believe it all started about 150 years ago. The sacraments are taxes and regulations for carbon sin. The demons are big business and Satin is big oil. You are an apostate denier and labeled sinful and ignorant if you don't believe . I think the arrogance comes from their belief in their moral superiority. Their God is Gaia and they hate anyone who threatens her. Yes it's much clearer to understand as a religion. Al Gore is a very rich hypocritical TV evangelist. The ipcc is like the vatican producing dogma that is not to be questioned. They aren't content to practice their faith alone they must proselytize everyone including the children. The apocalypse is coming because man is sinning and they must save as many as they can and pay penance for their carbon sin. You see man by his very exhalation is a sinner, he was born into it. The only answer is defend the faith, vote democrat and drive a Prius
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ginckgo I Don't believe CO2 is a significant part of any warming but I can see both sides are excluding the entire picture. Skeptics won't admit CO2 has had any factor because Warmers will exploit and exaggerate any such admission. Warmers are clinging to the slightest hint of warming to assign blame for it on CO2 and can't afford to admit roads, cities, clear cutting, and unnatural erosion may play a role , let alone any other natural causes. The Warmers claim they know to what degree every other contributing factor could possibly contribute and they have concluded zero. Two things have to be true for them to be right , 1. There are no unknown factors that haven't been discovered and, 2. they know more about every other factor than they do about CO2. I call that arrogance. Warmers have to believe that 1/41,666th of the atmosphere is 100% or almost 100% responsible for maybe a .8C rise in 150 years and that absolutely spells disaster. You tell me who has a more reasonable position Skeptics or Warmers?
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ginckgo Yes you ignorant tool even scientists can be corrupt, although I think it's easy for them to turn a blind eye when it comes to truck loads of research money. The ice record clearly shows CO2 is a product of warming not the cause otherwise how can you explain ice ages after CO2 was 5 times higher than it is today ???
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ginckgo "but without a drop in CO2 they never descended into proper Ice Ages." What do you think caused the drop in CO2 ???????????? Temperature !!!!!!!!!!!!
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ginckgo Let's talk about negative feedback. Temperature cools and oceans a primary sink absorb gasses including the current 1/2500th part of the atmosphere CO2. It seems to me negative feedback is much stronger because CO2 is forced to comply and you can see every time It cools CO2 falls even when it was still rising when temperature began to decline.
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ginckgo CO2 is a prisoner to temperature, it always follows , going up and then going down, and temperature is beholden to greater cycles.
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ginckgo Proxy information is subject to many variables, known and unknown but it's general and consistent message is CO2 follows temperature.
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ginckgo Mine is the broader open approach. You are insisting that 1/41,666th of the atmosphere is the only factor that matters.
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FiT PT Read The Liberty Amendments by Mark Levin, I believe there is a solution to our problem in that book.
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ginckgo Always follows, just look at the data.
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EpFiDude OMG someone actually is defending "Warming" as a religion lololol, they do exist! I am an Agnostic and I got that way through many years of reading religious texts, going to church, meditating etc. Then one day I decided no one really knows anything about God (if he exists). All religions can't be right either. Do you approve of throwing virgins in volcanoes? How about beheading infidels ??? Most warmers are leftists, religion mocking big government freeloaders. I merely compared the attributes of religious beliefs with their belief in the warming religion. Something I knew they would take offense to, to make an undeniable point. The Warming "religion" will fail because time and a better understanding of global temperature balance will happen. Much like there are no apologists for the flat earth theory these days because we know better. What kind of philosopher are you anyway ? "No one cares what you think, you're going to die anyway, the end will come anyway, you're consciousness will be deleted from existence etc etc. " Oh wait I get it , you're a motivational speaker LOL !!! Hundreds of comments and debate and your own philosophical ramblings has already proven you wrong. People care so much about my opinion they spend time and effort to talk about it.
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EpFiDude So your dust in the wind, so what . Agnosticism only admits no one knows and you certainly don't know. Like quantum physics almost everything is a possibility but some things are more probable than others. Is God a pink bunny ? I highly doubt it but no one knows for sure. I am not religious at all nor do I swear there is a God, I don't attend a religion or support one. I made some videos on my journey to where I am now but I have moved past religion, it's a man made myth to explain the unknown. You seek to attack me personally because you have nothing relative to the conversation to add. I love science and most scientists are good honest people but they are not infallible . The universe is about 4.6 billion years old and there is plenty of evidence to support evolution. Is there anything else you want me to correct you on, your about 100% off so far.
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FiT PT You nailed it !!!! This is exactly what the Warmers Cult is !!! Great Post !!!
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FiT PT I hope you are right , I hope we see Science Justice and a return to science improving the lives of people instead of stealing their money and freedom along with the crooked lowlife politicians.
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***** It doesn't.
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***** I don't need a priest I think for myself and strongly recommend you do also.
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***** No I live in an advanced society who invent traffic lights to save lives. There is a legitimate purpose for a traffic light and no one is arbitrarily controlling the light. Your logic in incongruent.
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***** What happened to "Global Warming"? You Warmers are the cult, deniers are to be shunned and labeled. People in your cult are the last to know it. LOL
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FiT PT Yes I've already been subscribed to Steven Molyneux .
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FiT PT Nice post . I think the basic problem is warmers believe in a very weak balance that can tip over at the slightest change. If that was the case we have had 4.6 billion years for it to happen and it hasn't.
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FiT PT Your right my friend, the world is at war with success.
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FiT PT Send me your links so I can use them too. They get so offended when you "insult" their beliefs with truth :)
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FiT PT I will share this. I thought I read about this a few years ago and how the solar system oscillates in the cosmic plane. If your interested in theoretical physics check out my videos on my Frame Theory.
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FiT PT Since obamacare my little town has lost their doctors and nurses and clinic. I have personally lost my affordable plan, my new one is 3 times more expensive with a much higher deductible and much less coverage. I just keep hoping the people that supported this get screwed even more than I did. Let's have equal misery as the liberals are calling for.
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FiT PT I'm not responding to them because I think I can educate the mindless drones. I think some people read these threads and maybe a few of them can use my argument and sources to to refute the ignorant fools. Of course you are right the truth will always eventually prevail. AGCC ? I thought it was AGGW......ok I get it , it doesn't fit the mantra, because THEY are giving up the global warming argument LOL !!! But even the "dangerous" climate change BS isn't working because less tornadoes and fewer hurricanes is becoming obvious even to the desperately ignorant.
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Throw more virgins into the volcano the climate gods are angry and round up the deniers we can't have any dissent. Even the most foolish could see the climate gods aren't angry.
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***** You are the kind of sheep that goes along with the stupidity because you're too lazy to figure it out for yourself. It's a con job and you really believe scientists can't be bought and corrupted like anyone else ....LOL. Carbon has always followed temperature and has a slight positive reinforcement but it's nothing to the negative feedbacks or much less to solar output. So much trust in something you know so little about.
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***** Politicians love taxes and regulation, it's what they do, and they can fund more "research" . Think about this , how much money would there be for "climate" scientists without this politically backed invention ? Read a book called Trouble with Physics by theoretical physicist Lee Smolin , the book doesn't speak to man made global warming specifically but fully explains the corruption in academia and the scientific community. If you think highly educated people can't be corrupted by money and aren't affected by peer pressure you are very naive.
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Armoured Challenger On the contrary, they have provided the proof themselves with their predictions over the years that have all been wrong. Everyone could understand global warming but "climate change" is no proof of anything. Just a few years ago they said there were going to be more tornadoes and hurricanes ........wrong again. If we had to judge this man made global warming theory using the SCIENTIFIC METHOD , theory , prediction, confirmation and repeat it has been conclusively been proven wrong.
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FiT PT They have hedged their predictions but you can't keep people excited about the "apocalypse" when it's 100 years away.....unless it's paved with dead polar bears but that's not happening either. I think this has almost run it's course.
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Armoured Challenger You can make anything you want out of a chart as long as you carefully choose where to begin a trend and of course warmers will always pick the point that bolsters warming. The evidence is all around you, your claim is more CO2 more warming right ??? Well there is more CO2 and it's not warming and certainly not like the sky is falling global warming witch doctors were screaming. Yes heat is dissipated by winds that are caused by high pressure heated areas (otherwise it would continue to climb, simple enough for you ?). Your right clouds have both but a much more negative effect the longer they persist. Oceans absorb CO2 duh, unless now your claiming CO2 isn't a positive reinforcement. Yes billions of years, all you need is a little common sense. There have been lifeforms on the earth that thrive in that sliver of climate earth has that hasn't been found anywhere else so.......yes a balance that has been tested by much more than the speck of life called humanity. The problem with warmers is they prefer to live in a fantasy rather than see what was and what is. Here is a comprehensive overview. https://www.cfact.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Climate-Hype-Exposed.pdf
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Armoured Challenger Yes I know the warmers think the world is only 150 years old LOLOLOLOL !! https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/05/31/ice-age-at-2000-ppm-co2/
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FiT PT Liberalism by the fruits of it's tree , poverty, jealousy, race bating, printing and spending money, taking from those who work hard and rewarding lazy parasites. AGGW (don't let them change the name, they are embarrassed by the global warming label) is the chosen method to shame the deniers and round up the useful idiots for the cause. You must hate fuzzy cuddly polar bears if you don't stop plant food emissions now !!! Their prophesies have failed to come true, so their priests the global warming witch doctors decided to say there will be more storms and stronger storms starting in 2009 (and 6 years later the complete opposite has happened LOL). They refuse to believe that CO2 is the product of warming not the cause. Science doesn't matter, reality doesn't matter it truly is a cult, a multi billion dollar cult. You can buy a lot of "experts" to excuse the false prophesies with billions of dollars .....
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FiT PT Ok interesting post, I can tell you as a former apologist for the literal 6 day creation theory (religion), people find a philosophy they like and tend to defend every aspect of it. They have a circular logic that if you believe and you find a conflict the conflict is the problem and you find a way to dismiss it. Believers twist and contort to maintain their faith. The one thing they love the most are experts that agree with them. When it is beyond them to defend the faith they simply dismiss the infidels as inferior to their "experts" , the example most vomited out is scientific "consensus". The majority of witch doctor "climate" scientists (dependent on the myth) agree ....... I am currently free from religion and claim the Agnostic label with a caveat or two. Evolution ....no one should dismiss the physical evidence but I think it's a leap of faith (another religion) to believe it's a natural process. Missing are all the subtly different transitional lifeforms. I think it's much more likely a higher intelligence every now and then changes the genetic code for some unknown reason, perhaps terraforming for some intergalactic truck stop, but that's just a notion I surely cannot defend and as an Agnostic it's possible but not probable.
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