Comments by "Omer عمر" (@Omer1996E.C) on "Why Are Muslim Countries Poorer? - VisualEconomik EN" video.

@gwaittaali8597 I wouldn't put the gulf nations as examples, I see that real wealth is human capital. And we don't have it even in gulf nations, I believe that most of our problems are with our governments
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Indeed, and Muslims ruled India and they weren't majority, so did they cause all the poverty in India? A rational, non hindutva, would say no
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As a Muslim who's main topic is economics, I studied this alot because it affected the foundations of my faith, even studied why Israel was so rich and Pakistan so poor, and basically every western nation rich, and Muslim nation poor My final conclusion was that, Islamic law isn't being implemented at all, the whole problem lied on the governments, just written laws and never really implemented, especially Islamic economic laws, that promotes free trade as heck and minimum government control, minimum intervention even if you're starving. For example, in Islam, additional taxes are not allowed except in crisis, especially taxes on trade, so much that the prophet compared anyone who taxes trade with adulterous. And price regulations is strictly prohibited as it's proven in hadith and sunnah. And as you said, feudalism was prohibited in Islam, that was even a boost for us This is never implemented in muslim countries, they are too authoritarian to accept the rules
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@julm7744 what? Indonesian and Malaysian Muslims are very religious Muslims, what's "behaved"? Does it mean they're obedient to you? I don't think they are
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1:50 It was the wealthiest, yes. And it had it's own golden age from Spain in the west, to Afghanistan in the east The problem is not with the religion, but with governments, trust me, I studied it for years
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@julm7744 you can't prove Saudis or Egyptians are less tolerant either, the problem is not with tolerance as we can see Let's be honest, you can't prove that tolerance rates are significantly different between these states
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@RalphEllis of course, not every thing in it was pure Muslim invention, the same way it's today with most western techs, it's all a combination of civilizations, diversity and tolerance is a great source of prosperity
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@farbodparhizkar1033 at the roots of Islam The Shura (consultation) system, similar to but not exactly like, parliaments elected the caliphs, and it was always used for important decisions and rules. It was reduced to just literal consultation system during the period of the ummayads, the election system was stopped in a civil war and replaced by a dynasty. That's why the 2nd Islamic civil war happened, we were trying to save our "democracy" unsuccessfully
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why-lj5tc this is because the Saudi citizen population is almost 95 percent sunni, with 100 percent being Muslims, that doesn't show extremism or intolerance in the community, although the government is doing very unislamic things, that I refrain from the calling the saudi government "Islamic" at all
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@badluck5647 that's what I'm talking about
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@zwierzak2012 I said it was government, not taxes
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@stoneruler now, our governments are not limited by religion, they just apply some rules to appease some islamists, but actually it's not functional We have an unlimited democracy, and that's a bad thing too
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I'll tell you something, you're just describing everything from a westerner point of view, the same way westerners thought they understood Iraq and Afghanistan when they invaded them We know our problems, they lie in our governments and not a little bit of it is from Islamic rules. You see the situation as if praying for 30 min wreaks the economy, but spending 3 hrs on social media is ok
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This is a strong argument many ignore just to say "lack of interest based banking systems is the cause of poverty"
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Put an argument please
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@farbodparhizkar1033 we have our own political philosophy, very similar to democracy, but it's within the system of Islam, some even claim it'd be better than any democracy. But it's always overshadowed by the well funded "democracy" philosophy, funded by foreigners
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@puraLusa indeed, the prophet left some political instruments with strict laws and rules, and for the rest he said "you are more knowledgeable about your worldly matters", meaning that the religion is more flexible in politics, and doesn't dictate everything to do, because human conditions aren't fixed and stable always, we need some flexibility and some rigidity. Islam provides its part, but we're not providing our part, and as I said before, I blame our governments for our backwardness
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@alonhaviv6755 honestly, the middle east wasn't backward economically, until the mid 19th century For example, ehen France colonized Algeria, France was already in debt to Algeria (France never paid back) and they stole the treasury of Algeria which was bigger than the French one (they stole the treasury too) This is only about Algeria, and Egypt at the same time had an economy larger than that of the Japanese empire, despite Egypt being an ottoman state. So, there's something wrong with the 19th century happening in the Muslim world, try to figure it out
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@fahmieraoff1520 why did my reply disappear? Anyway no, it's not. You can read it as (story of roma well) In short, muslims were thirsty and only one jew monopolized water at high price, but the prophet never stopped this price hike, because it's that jew's right to increase prices, rather he asked someone (Uthman R.A) to buy the well at high price, and Uthman RA made it for charity. Conclusion: price control is haram
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After watching and rewatching the video, there are misconceptions and misunderstanding in this video to the sharia law, and most problems you mentioned is from governments and societal problems, that are all never connected to the Islamic law
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@bottomethgear9622 indonesia is a Muslim country, but not an Islamic country, that's what you meant Muslim country is a country dominated by Muslims, Islamic country is a country dominated by a government claiming a religion (even if the state religion claim was fake, like Egypt that's actually, technically and in reality secular, but just claims to be Islamic, just to appease the population)
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@surajs5913 this is just your thought, India is always bragging about mughal architectural and engineering and you say this? Lol
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That makes no sense First, gdp shrinks when it's taxed. So having a jizya should make the economy less than 10 percent Second, jizya wasn't a high tax, except in certain occasions, and it was many times equal to the zakat Muslims paid in the first place Third, Islamic empires never had imperialist conquests, there wasn't conquests for exploitations like the west did, because the Islamic law prohibits unjust exploitations and enslavement of free people
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@julm7744 in Egypt, they're free. In saudi Arabia they're legally free, but culturally not free to go anywhere Where is that significant difference then?
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why-lj5tc this is governments problem, not a problem of culture, in Saudi Arabia even sunni scholars are executed if they spoke aggressively against the government, and there are already incidents where an execution order was issued against scholars, in fact, currently there are more sunni scholars in prisons than Shia ones, especially since the current crown prince was in charge
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@seyyes2047 I'm tired of this argument honestly You just got Egyptians out of the equation because it didn't fit your argument About saudis, they have alot of cultural non religious norms, remember the car driving ban on women? Yes, it was cultural not religious law, as you know Saudis are generally traditionalist tribalists, so you shouldn't connect to everything they do culturally to Islam Until the reformation movement, women were freer in the Islamic world than the western world, the they became equal, and in the 20th century, western women became freer in the western world. Do you seriously think that all the economic problems are just because women are partially in the labour market, and you threw corruption, over regulation, lack of education... out of the window?!
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@seyyes2047 it's ok, but don't repost the removed comments because youtube would temporarily close your ability to comment for 24 hours. And don't put any links 🔗 whatsoever, and be careful with words It was nice talking to you
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@Itsvivx99 seriously! Omer is an Islamic name, the 2nd caliph of Islam, the one who defeated the Byzantines and Persians, in two of the most important battles in history I'm originally from Ethiopia, since you asked
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@tassie7830 I know, they took what they want from the sharia and forgot the core, without they're not nothing, without oil necessity will come, with necessity innovation and hard work comes. They didn't follow the full laws of Islam, if they did I'm sure they'd be better than Norway
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@theniravpanchal first, who are you to set legitimacy laws, even historians have no right to set such conditions And a terrorist is who terrorizes innocent civilians and commits crimes against humanity on them for political reasons, like how Israel is exactly doing to Palestinians
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@surajs5913 i read only half of this, as I'm busy But what I understood from the first half, you consider Muslims as non Indians, just like how jews were considered non Germans in WWII Gotta
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@lingesh2773 have you read my replies? I won't copy pasteit again, please read it and reply to me again, I want to know your idea then. You're talking to a social science nerd and I know what I'm saying
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@desiputtar89 you're totally ignorant of Indian history, learn history and never talk to me before that
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@desiputtar89 lol, when you can't prove a point, make a conspiracy
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@alonhaviv6755 of course, we, as communities and societies take a great part of the blame, because we didn't resist to the legal changes, we just accepted secularization, corruption, regulations, dictators, etc...
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@puraLusa when it comes to legal sharia law, only small parts of Islam is changing (with different interpretations) but these are largely overseen by non-Muslims, idk why And about picking a side, this is not part of Islam, this is only if there was no evidence for anyone who own it, as it was said in the video, most people used oral testimonies, but in Islam you can use material evidences (and it has a priority), like an ownership paper, a paper indicating that you bought this land and others, if both of you don't have any evidence, the one who was already running that facility would be the owner So, what we say is that you can own something and have an ownership document for it like nowadays, and it is given a priority as primary evidences. Oral testimonies are the secondary evidences, if the primary exists, then the secondary would be invalid
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@anksssssssss ok, so tolerance to you is how strict are laws, like if you can wear only underwears on beach and like that, as if they're the indicators of development
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@williamzk9083 where is that? You can give me 5 examples, but Muslim countries are 54 countries, this intolerance isn't the norm, this is a lie some people spread. Tell me which country outside the gulf and Afghanistan has a law that forces a religion?
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@Itsvivx99 I don't have statistics, so I won't disagree But what I'm asking is "is it a significant difference?" I want to know that Malaysia has 20% or something like that less intolerance They are talking as if they know about anything in these regions, even I doubt your knowledge on tolerance in other countries, or are you judging by stereotypes?
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@Itsvivx99 btw, I'm not an Arab myself, I'm just saying what I see in some Arab countries, & in non-Arab countries there's more diversity indeed, because of the very long Muslim rule in there, & it's a really normal thing, even Muslim share of population in south east Asia is growing, and with time, diversity will dwindle more and more
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@wengelder9256 Arab bedouins were so hard working, warriors, independent peoples Oil caused them to rest and make resting a habit. In short, oil made them lazy, they weren't lazy before, now their governments are trying to push them to work, but they also fear a discontent among the people, monarchy lives as long as it's accepted
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@Miyamiyamoji then, you should at least also recognize that they decreased nothing
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@Miyamiyamoji i told you stop talking if you know nothing about history, you're still making lies, I'm tired of you
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@Miyamiyamoji I'm fed up with you, our talk is not productive, I better not talk after this, bye
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@rezgarosman9779 i told you, no government wants to apply a system that limits their control, even the Shura system is more strict than the parliamentary systems, much more strict Plus, westerners are funding "democracy" and governments want to take some advantages of loans and tourism, so they just say yes blindly, and democracy is really recently tried thing, so even here it has many supporters who believe it doesn't contradict Islam
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@offred6013 should I explain everything, there's loopholes that you can use, ask professionals for precise details
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@puraLusa haven't you seen the video? It was talking about Islamic golden age in Spain, uhhhh
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@stoneruler haven't you seen the video? It was talking about Islamic golden age in Spain, uhhhh
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