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Comments by "Night Raven" (@GiRR007) on "The Race for Immortality" video.

Just make it so in order to live forever you have to get sterilized, resources will eventually by abundant anyway so all that's needed is to make it until then.
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Perhaps make it so for people to receive the immortality they need to be sterilized ?
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I mean in that case you could say that every time you go to sleep you are a new person. Also you could say that you aren't the same person you were like 10 years ago since people change overtime. does it matter
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eventually we will be advanced enough to make our own universes so maybe not
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Think if Abraham Lincoln , Albert Einstein, Isaac newton, become immortal. The world would be an amazing place.
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@necrosteel5013 OK if you going to put it like that then sure in billions of years from now everything well be gone after the last star fades out, or maybe not.
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why not ? We have already discovered animals that do basically the same thing immortality wise. We also know alot of the factors that contribute to aging and will continue to learn more until we know them all. 100 years ago people would never have imagine the internet so its very likly 1 day humans will be immortal.
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@T3CHNOM4NCER That answers a little lazy, What reasons are there to assume we wont ? Theres alot of reasons to say we will.
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@T3CHNOM4NCER True humans have been looking for ways to not die since for ever. All life does that really to some extent, and at a basic level all life has kind of found a way to not die by passing on genes. But humans specifically have been dreaming of immortality since we began, like literally the first story ever written was the epic of Gilgamesh, a story about the quest to become immortal so the ideas pretty old. But what we modern humans have today that those ancient people didn't is science and you've seen already what we can do with that. I'm sure there are reasons things die but that doesn't mean we have to listen to those reasons. We already don't listen to the other reasons nature does what it does so why should we when it pertains to our very lives. We already succeeded in slowing aging down in mice through certain chemicals so much that it can double their life span. I believe it really is just a matter of time.
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I wouldn't say people value life because its short, they value it because of potential and the ability to do things. There will always be more to do. If people started living forever then human lives would be worth more id say since whenever a person were to die it would be more noticeable.
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yeah millennials and zoomers are absolutely useless 😏
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You realize its the rich and powerful that usually are the casue for a lot things right, without them we wouldn't have much because your average joe shmoe isn't to useful in areas such as those. People will always be inequal, but if rich people do developed something eventually with time said things do trickle down to the masses as they become easier to make and the price drops .
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@moshpiler123 Are you really comparing the ability to live longer to a car... Not everyone in the world will have everything, that will never happen. Sure not everyone has a lamborghini, that's an enthusiast car, but a vast majority of people in America do own a car . So my logic still very much stands. The longer geniuses the faster problems will be solved because they will have more time to solve said problems. You make it sound like cooperation's actually control the world, they don't, its a service, you don't like it don't buy it. Even if the planet was over populated, technology improving faster would make that "problem" irrelevant since scientist will be living longer so we will be able to find solutions to problems like that sooner. Very few people have the will or intelligences to do what people like jeff bezos and bill gates have done for society as a whole, they have revolutionized things like transportation of goods and technology with out them life would be worse for literally everyone.
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@moshpiler123 Don't be one of those people who holds society back because of your skepticism and jealousy of people who have done great things for humanity And your inability to match up to them. Not everyone is equal.
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What nature wants is irrelevant,
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not really, just limit peoples ability to have children make it so that to be able to live for ever you cant have any more children eventually it will get to a point were resources wont matter any more anyway as technology progresses, so just need to make it until them
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@wargriffin5 You make it sound like younger people are the only ones capable of having new ideas, they aren't. Sure there would be stagnation for some people, but for other people they would have all the time they could want to actually complete stuff, its no different from today, some people are lazy some aren't the hard working people will be able to continue improving and doing what they love forever. And its not like change is always necessary just for the sake of change, unless the improvements are being made the change is a pointless waste. People have never been and will never be completely equal, humans aren't clones of each other.
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Imagine those hero's and geniuses that can live forever.
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OR , we will have tons of people with almost limitless potential since they will have abundant time to do stuff. All we have to do then is stop NEW people form being born
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Living is the only thing that changes you, death just replaces you with something else. One day aging will be defeated
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I mean so far the west has the most civilized and advanced countries on the planet, and those same countries are VERY young in comparison to other countries so...
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"in time" I think its called.
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That's been said about every technology that has ever existed, "only the rich will have it". Technology improves, it gets less expensive over time to the point where the masses eventually have it. The rich are a big reason why we have advancements in the first place, they are usually rich for a reason and are able to promote new things being created even if it is for a self centered reason.
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@carlosh.detorresbarrios1695 smart phones, cars , watches, tv, air conditioning, not to mention the COUNTLESS drugs and medicines developed to help all kinds of illnesses. These weren't things that started off with a majority of people being able to afford. As far as populations go just make it an ultimatum between having kids or being immortal. Not that we are dealing with a population crisis in the first place. The government cares about money, if you can pay for it they give it to you. And the price usually comes down.
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some people would probably get stuck in that mindset XD but after a long time i'm sure they would eventually make it out
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Eventually the price would come wayyyyy down just like most every form of technology.
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there will always be new stuff to do.
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If people were immortal hitler couldn't do anything since he wouldn't be able to kill anybody...
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well I guess YOU will just have be prepared to die good luck, im gonna go live forever
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@NexusWarior211 even if science was a religion it would be the best one since it has the most proof compared to literally every other .
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But you would have unlimited time to get out of said rat race and do what ever you wanted then for ever if so desired
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Eventually they would get out of being just the work force.
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nahh
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depends on what you do with your life
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eventually it will just need better technology for the scan ands not even like if you were to make a perfect copy of a person they would continue to be the exact same throughout their lives
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Why would you wan't the people they killed to die instead of being able to live forever ??????
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@ashleysimthi4852 If there's no good there's no bad either so might as well make everyone immortal.
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Society wouldn't stall as long as people are around new ideas will emerge. As long as our current system of government stays the same it should be fine , even in a feudal system people would eventually get tired of it and revolt. Imagine all the good that could come of people like jeff Bezos or albert Einstein or steven hawking if they could live forever.
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@bloodwitness7037 There's always gonna be evil somewhere, it will exist as long as humans exist. Just have to press on.
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we aren't born for any reason we are the ones that decide the reason and if we decided we are born to live forever, that is now the reason.
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the rich help with progressing science and the like, since you need money and resources to do stuff they are a big help. Even if it is for self centered reasons eventually the technology will be brought down in cost and made available for the average person.
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I mean if you want to completely stop death just transfer a person mind into a computer and boom
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That's the saddest part, imagine how lonely the oldest immortals among us would feel.
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why not just buy rocket boots ? :)
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The elves literally lived in a primitive backwards world with seemingly no technological advancements of course they were fuckin miserable XD. Pain and suffering is the meaning of live, a live with out any hardship at all simply isn't living . Risk need to be taken. And there will always be more to do.
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@Noobscodee Not just life threatening risk, but risk that can but you in a less advantages position in general. Its how you learn.
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Hey if they make it that far they earned it as far as i'm concerned
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if we are still an advanced species by the time heat death occurs we would be advanced enough to avoid it.
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your prerogative of course, but i think most people would
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well no the chances stay the same, but since you are alive longer you just have more opportunity's to experience those situations. If you would still be partaking in said opportunities .
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Humans have never been and will never be equal... If we had immortality those same tyrants wouldn't be able to do anything .
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We probably could eventually
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Do you really think they can all of a sudden just prevent death with out understanding it first ?
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no such thing as being too competent, If we ever mastered time it self that would be amazing.
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Probably, every time you go to sleep it can be seen as a different person waking up. Are you really even the same person you were 10 years ago ?
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Technological progressions isn't something that should be limited by politics.
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@dcwhitney8314 As far as cooperate interest go they are interested in making money so they can be pretty easy to predict most of the time. If a cooperation sees a gap that can be filled they will try to fill said gap and profit from it. Said profit usually comes from selling goods to people that they actually want. So really they are just fulfilling the wants of the population. As far as governments go I would say it depends on the government.
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ok boomer
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eventually we can just make other things to store our memories instead of our limited brains or even just improve our brains
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In time
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I'm pretty sure it is a quote from interstellar.
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A great irl example is Age, you aren't the same person you were 10 years ago, and when you sleep it can be said that a different person wakes up in your place because of how your brain works. You are not even the same person you were 5 minuets ago. Your brain is nothing more than a computer anyway.
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People have said that about every kind of technology that has ever existed. Technology improves and makes it way down to the masses once the price is reduced. And its the rich usually who spur on those developments in the first place making it possible for the rest of us.
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@htchamber2776 Imagine "insert your preferred politician here" or any other none corrupt politician or philanthropist living that long... -_-
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@htchamber2776 I'm sure plenty and the benefitted society a lot. And really when you think about it world wars lead to a lot of technological advancements so at least it wasn't all for nothing.
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@htchamber2776 Does it matter what people are MEANT to do, humans are smart enough now to choose what THEY think they are meant to do and that ability will only grow as we learn. We are the ones that decide meaning since we are the only ones who have the ability to actual make a choice .
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@htchamber2776 People question others ideologies regardless of them being alive or not. I mean slavery is illegal now so I doubt that would happen again. One person can only control so much. Also a neat fact, slavery was more so abolished for technological and logistical reason anyway, making that entire industry less viable. Not strictly because of ideological reason.
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@htchamber2776 They don't ruin it for everybody necessarily. Also were are you getting these arbitrary age limits from anyway ? There are creatures in nature that could theoretically live forever. Certain lobsters and jelly fish being prime examples.
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@htchamber2776 I'm not talking about the logical part i'm talking about the purely biological aspect of how certain creatures approach the concept of aging .
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@htchamber2776 I mean those same dictators would probably just pass off their rule to their children like in north korea. Older generations dying isn't what spurs progress, quite the opposite actually since it's the old who generally know more about the past and actively seek to change things. And true not every country is at the same level but I doubt that will ever be the case honestly. New ideas aren't restricted to the new generation.
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Because death is an objectively bad thing for people ? unless something worse is happening which isn't the case most of the time.
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or nothingness and be left behind and eternally forgotten about
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@georgiohyde1027 You saying he does exist wont make him exist.
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@georgiohyde1027 I mean if you believe the bible god literally had to stop humans from working together because they were building a ladder. If that the limit of his intellect we aren't to far behind. We were made in his image allegedly after all. Religious people have said tons of things about progress throughout the years, things that have progressed society. Things they say only god can control and they are always wrong. Science doesn't wait for anyone.
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@georgiohyde1027 there are no 2 dimensionally beings
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@georgiohyde1027 It would be quite the discovery if you managed to find the 1 and only two dimensional being in all of recorded human history.
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@georgiohyde1027 I mean your the one who seemingly has no idea how dimensions work so are you sure you aren't the autistic one here ?
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@georgiohyde1027 hey, not my fault your since of humor is bad
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@georgiohyde1027 never
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hitler killed himself and binladan was killed by others. You make it sound like only young people are the ones that contribute new ideas and that is categorically untrue. And true the death penalty would probably hold even more weight than it does now. Scientific progress isn't something that should be limited. Even if new religions did pop up it doesnt really matter, people can believe what they want. Rich people aren't gods and probably never will be. They have to obey the same laws as the rest of us.
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@ericfrehlich8800 Or maybe there is no god and when you die you are reduced to nothing and are just gone forever, while the living forget about you over time and continue moving on and living and experiencing life while you are unable to even lament the fact you made the wrong decision.
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@ericfrehlich8800 Wrong as in if you end up being wrong about your beliefs.
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@ericfrehlich8800 yeah that's why a said unable to lament
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There will always be more to do.
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Feelings get in the way most of the time and cause people to do stupid stuff, things should first be looked at objectively.
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@kristiant96 when it comes to important decisions they ALWAYS do. Most of the mistakes humans make are because of rash decisions based on impulsive emotions like hate or fear or excitement.
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@kristiant96 Sure SOMETIMES as in a vast minority of times but its still better to trust what you know like what most people do everyday of their lives. Imagine how bad the world would be if everyone was going off of instinct as much as logic. That instinct can be just as wrong as your mind, even more so in most cases.
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nope
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@morenojames5868 Death is a disease, the greatest disease of all. The antithesis of life and a problem not even nature has figured out a way completely around yet. Think of all the good that would come from people living for ever, issac newton, albert Einstein, Abe Lincoln, Everyone would live for ever so no, no more holocausts.
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@gangsta74110 boomers don't fight in wars they conscript the young punks to do it for them XD
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@Grey Bear Ok zoomer
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@Grey Bear not zoomers that's for sure, most of my personal doctors are in their 40s
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@Grey Bear well 1 I just looked up the credentials of but the rest I know personally.
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@Grey Bear Nurses aren't doctors and some nurses are also in their 40s. It's not my fault you don't know how to type out well structured sentences .
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@Grey Bear Doesn't really matter what you want to rebel against , you'll get drafted all the same young buck now go fight for me some more would ya XD
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@Grey Bear dam ive been exposed XD
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no, there will always be new things to experience
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I mean if no one is dying there's no need for a new generation is there.
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yep
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People dying isn't good for the next generation, it just makes it so they have less to learn from if anything.
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ever heard of a revolution ?
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@panzervor184 True some people won't survive it. But that's just the way thing are. If things get bad enough eventually people will revolt.
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