Comments by "Lynott Parris" (@DenUitvreter) on "NFL Fan Reacts to EURO Opening Games - Fans Take Over The Streets" video.

Orange is a principality in Southern France. William of Orange, AKA William the Silent and not to be confused with William III or Orange who took the throne of Britain over a century later, was as a German noble steward (stadtholder) to the king of Spain for the Netherlands. Then he led the rebellion against that same king because the Dutch, protestant and catholic, wanted religious tolerance instead of the Spanish Inquisition. The colour derived from his name became the symbol of the revolt that would eventually be an 80-year war with Spain and Portugal before they also recognized the Dutch Republic's independence. The stadtholder, steward without a king now, became the leader together with the grand pensionary, not a noble and formerly the position of lawyer to the parliament of the Holland province. Nation states were not a thing yet, Europe was divided in monarchies and even the Dutch didn't know how to go about independent government at first and took 7 years between the declaration of independenc and naming themselves the Republic of the Seven United Netherlands. All the symbolism and flags were royal too, so they had to come up with all that nationalist stuff themselves and the colour orange worked great. So that's also why the Dutch have the oldest tricolour and the oldest national anthem. Even the carrots got bred orange to boost national spirit. Later it became a symbol for the Orangists, the pro stadtholder and more national unity republicans, who were opposed by the "Statists" republicans, who didn't want a stadtholder and very autonomous provinces with power in the provincial parliaments (i.e. the parliament of Holland bossing). The Orangists won. The position of stadtholder was only heriditary in the sense that almost only men from the noble Orange-Nassau family were appointed stadtholder by the provinces parliaments or there was no stadtholder appointed at all. The stadtholder would be the commander of the army and in charge of foreign policy. Most of them delivered for the Dutch, some spectacularly well. They are related, but the current Dutch royal family is the product of the Napoleontic occupation and defeat, and the British wanting a buffer monarchy between itself and republican France. So it is a dynasty going back to the 1500's, but not a royal dynasty. They don't deliver for the Dutch anymore either.
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@CaptainKevinDarling Yes, it comes from the Persian word for the orange fruit, but by then they were also the same word for the colour and the principality. The Dutch have skipped the fruit, that's called a Sinaasappel, China apple.
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Not the channel for stuff like that I suggest.
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Nice to have a big tournament back in Western-Europe again. Qatar, Russia, you can't buy atmosphere. England was not really hosting the whole tournament it and wasn't a proper host anyway just wanted home advantage. One country, where lots of fans can drive, take a bus or train to, works best for the atmosphere. The US is hosting the WC together with Mexico and Canada in two years, so maybe the home fans do something similar there.
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@ChristiaanHW No, he didn't start the royal house, he started the Dutch Republic that would last over 2 centuries. He actually split the Netherlands rather than unified it, because the Southern Netherlands, now Belgium and Luxembourg, bottled it and chose the Spanish Inquisition over freedom.
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@yungmorelsy6275 A revolt and 80-years war needs symbols, orange is a strong colour. He and his son were usually referred to as Nassau.
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@ChristiaanHW Yes I understand but that's from a view point is doesn't really make that much difference and that's what I don't agree with. It was really a big thing, kings were supposed to be put in position by god through inheretance. There we no countries as such, no nation states, just monarchies varying in which area they ruled over with inheretance and marriage. William of Orange changed all that himself by declaring the legitimate king had left the throne of the Netherlands by becoming a tyrant. Over 2 centuries later, as a consequence of his actions, there were proper countries, nation states, in Europe and one of those could just pick a monarch because Britain wanted a buffer monarchy against now also republican France and the bankrupt Netherlands didn't care saying no. Stadtholder, no matter how semi-heriditary, was a completely different position than that from a king, it was more like an appointed civil servant. They would grow more similar over the centuries, also with kings becoming less absolutist, but not when William the Silent was stadtholder. Commander of the army was the main task, especially for his son Maurice of Nassau.
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Stadtholder (m) of the Dutch Republic.
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Not king, the steward to the king who led the rebellion that would lead to the Dutch Republic, which became named as such in 1588, the kingdom of the Netherlands is only from 1814.
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No, it's much older as a national colour than the kingdom, it's even older than the Dutch Republic (1588) before that.
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@katjaboelieable Een huis is geen koninkrijk. Het koninkrijk stamt van 1815, de Republiek der Zeven Vereenigde Nederlanden is van 1588.
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Due to a family that only became a royal family much later. As a national colour it comes from the Dutch Republic and the events leading up to that.
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No, natiional flags were not a thing yet because the nation state had still to be invented, after the Dutch declaration of independence that took another 7 years. The personal flag of the Spanish king was the one flying here until independence. The Statenvlag is named after the Staten, the provincial parliaments, just like Staten Island. It probably was changed during the stadtholderless era (stadtholders were almost exclusively appointed from the Orange-Nassau family) when there was rivalry between the Orangists and Staatists.
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@h50herman I agree wholehartedly with you, I just don't think this is the kind of channel to discuss things like that in the comment section.
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