Comments by "geemy" (@geemy9675) on "Who's faster? Explained and Simulated - Horsepower vs Torque" video.

  1. interesting question and interesting approach with the simulation. unfortunately, bad execution leads to wrong conclusion. Horsepower is faster than torque, with a couple asterisks *as long as the gearing and ratios are properly designed *power and torque don't matter if you don't have traction everything is f***d up from the beginning starting with a 1800lbs FWD car with 500/1000hp and 6in wide regular street tires. takes no genius to know its not gonna work properly then you add transmission that are so badly setup that they either slip the clutch or spin the tires all the way through the quarter mile , and return meaningless results the simulation that's "closest" to reality is the one with manual transmission, where hp engine wins but even there, it spins the tires all the way through 1st and 2nd gear 6000lbs simulation is dumb too because if a car has a certain payload/tow rating, it will be geared to carry or pull that weight correctly. here we have a 1st gear geared for 110mph in the 1000hp engine... in direct drive simulation its geared for 270+ mph... also 6:19 shows that the 500hp engine generated by the simulation is actually a 671hp engine, not 500hp. it has a wide powerband so it works better in extreme conditions where the gearing is completely off in the first simulattion with no final drive ratio, it runs at 1500rpm so only 221hp, 1/3 of its power. the 1000hp engine is running a 3700rpm (~350hp) but it's slipping the clutch very badly because the gearing is for 800+mph so even with 1000hp its not able to lock the clutch without stalling, so it would slip the clutch all the way to 320 mph... the easy hp beats torque example is superbike ~200mph/200hp/100Nm/15krpm VS top pro sprinter cyclist ~50mph/3hp/200Nm/120rpm
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  2.  @rarneum  yes, actually if you look at the real hp number, the torque engine hits 631hp @ 4000rpm so for a fair comparison the hp engine should be geared ~2.6x shorter in the direct drive it was geared for 850mph 🤔
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  3.  shawn576  100% but I think it's also because of automatic transmission tuned for mpgs. people buy big engines that they dont use and that are not efficient, so manufacturers have to milk every mpg they can they short shift every gear and hide most of the power. I had almost never driven an automatic except some rentals. I had a shock when going from a 1.3 manual yaris with 90 hp to a sorento V6 6 speed auto with MORE than 3x the power. the sorento still felt slow until it kicks down and NOTHING happened under 50% throttle. like if I was in 5th gear in the yaris and trying to accelerate . if you put it in sport you get better throttle response but then it stays in a lower gear even when cruising and mpg sucks, engine braking and down shifts become more jerky. I guess modern transmission are better but I like the manual because the transmission doesn't have to guess what you're doing. also you can down shift BEFORE applying throttle, so you can drive faster and smoother Electric gives you all he power without the warm up/downshifts/turbo lag/noise/wear so you can actually use it all the time. I drive my 111hp fiat 500e and I'm dusting AMG's / M's and with 4-5x the power all day long🙄
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  4.  @nathanaelcole8466  simulator is great but parameters are poorly chosen
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  5.  @myne00  4A-GE 20V engine stock makes 162 Nm of torque at 5200 rpm or 5,600 rpm depending on the version. if you triple the torque from there its 486Nm and more than 265kW 🤔 Also if you shift near redline, only the second gear will drop below 5000rpm 🤔 properly driven it should walk away easily once you've reached boost in 2nd gear I mean a lot of things can go wrong outside a simulation, but if you can have boost between 5000 and 7500, its not that bad
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