Comments by "Ton Bong" (@tongobong1) on "Gregor Hohpe On How Software Architects Transform Large Enterprises | The Engineering Room Ep. 15" video.

  1. Gregor said: "Any line of code that is not deployed is cost" so what about the code of unit tests then? I think many unit tests are useful but there are also unit tests that are not worth the cost of having them and we should delete them right? Especially we should delete many London style unit tests because those hard to understand unit tests are terrible for projects right?
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  2. I totally agree with Dave Farley that "quality in modern systems is our ability to change them". On the other hand London style unit tests use many mocks implemented by hacky mock libraries that are hard to understand and they easily break when changing the internal implementation despite the functionality remains the same. London style unit tests make the system much harder to change yet Dave still thinks London style unit tests are useful. What do you think?
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  3. I believe we should increase the flexibility and complexity of design/architecture only when we really need it and never upfront.
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  4. Yes there are several rugs that we should pull from programmers. One rug is trying to use TDD everywhere. The other is mocking everything outside the class under unit test and another rug is using mock libraries... I believe good unit tests are the next step in making system that are easy to change. Unfortunately right now 90% of programmers don't know how to write a good suite of good unit tests.
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  5.  @architectelevator  OMG are you the legendary Gregor Hohpe?
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