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Comments by "Mosern1977" (@Mosern1977) on "Как санкции изменили русскую деревню? Жизнь в российской глубинке после санкций" video.
Here in Norway prices for fuel has gone down over the last 6 months. It is still higher than 2 years ago.
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It actually makes sense that the more self-reliant people are, the less sanctions affect them. If you don't have anything, you cannot lose anything.
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Love the way Russian internal propaganda works. Throw 20 different crazy theories out there, different theories stick with different people, its kinda tragic and fun.
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@СергейКарташков-э9ъ - well, there isn't much to counter-sanction. Russia has already lost its main export customers in Europe. Russia's GDP is on the size of Italy, it is not very important on the world's economic arena. But I'm sure China is pleased to gobble up Russian resources.
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Why would you expect that a small village out in nowhere would feel the pain of war happening thousands of km away. Take it for what it is, a report from rural Russia. Guess when it turns out that the ones that were sent to war, never comes back, the mood will change a bit. Probably they will be just more angry at the west for helping Ukraine defend itself.
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@nanicrash - no, because you need a special mindset and culture for that approach to work. In the West there is an official story, and one sticks to that. There isn't 20 different semi official versions, and people pick the one that resonates with their beliefs. The shop-keeper here had taken the "America is pulling the strings behind the scenes" narrative to heart, guess that worked best for him.
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@sergueimikhail9654 - right... What was the punishment again for calling the "special military operation" for a "war"?
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As you can clearly see Russians will not overthrow their government. The amount of hardship they endure and accept is mind-blowing to people living in the West.
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@SurvivalRussia - yes, they were involved in reducing Russian involvement. But USA didn't invade the country afterwards. If Russia had kept it at trying to influence elections an stuff like that, all this mess would have been avoided.
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@LukeKeeganN - ahh the "defend the people of Donetsk" excuse. Good, we are working us through the bad excuses here. So, unless you have a very recent map bought in Russia. Donetsk is a Ukrainian area, and no country but Ukraine has jurisdiction over that area.
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@alexokunnur8946 - yes, I've been watching Russian propaganda since the war started. It is a common trait in my culture to educate oneself on things. And it was way different than what was expected, and the mindset of a lot of Russians also very different than I though. But after a while one gets the gist of it. Strange that you haven't mentioned "fighting nazis" yet, another common excuse.
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@alexokunnur8946 - well, as I said, you can go from an individual to a society. But going from a society to an individual is much less likely to work. But there seems to be a high willingness to fight an aggressor at least. Ukraine seems to me to be a bit closer to Polish mentality than Russian.
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@alexokunnur8946 - no, assuming that might be a quirk of it though. Its different, not inferior. Cultures are very much a product of climate and history.
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@sergueimikhail9654 - wow, you can support the government position. Incredible. That one could do in Nazi Germany during WW2 and in North Korea today too. Kinda hard to know what freedom is, when you don't understand the concept. Saying boy or girl is not illegal in the West unless you swallow Russian propaganda sideways.
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Norwegian here - why don't you use electric cars? You've got plenty of cheap electricity.
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@OrdinaryEgor - well, it must be good, cause it must stand criticism and critique from all over the place. Crap propaganda doesn't stand a chance.
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@chickenlover657 - which of the 20 or so versions do you fancy?
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@wyliamulayye7534 - why is that?
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@harshmishra3214 - what relevance does that have. Indians and Pakistanis are more than happy to slaughter each other today, no outside help needed. Germany started WW2, doesn't really mean anything today. The world changes much in 10 years, even more in 50.
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@LukeKeeganN - again, Russia attacked. Doesn't matter what bad excuse they invent to try to make it sound better. If Russia didn't want Ukraine to be armed to the teeth, it shouldn't have attacked. It isn't up to Russia to decide were NATO puts bases, it is up the countries themselves that wants to join NATO, because Russia behaves like a violent drunk bear. This is btw the "we must stop NATO expansion" explanation. One of the 20 or so bad excuses spewed byr Russian propaganda. (Russia just got Finland and Sweden to apply instead, yeah!)
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@harshmishra3214 - 30 years ago now. Very important to blame everyone else than the attacker.
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@alexokunnur8946 - no, the Russian mindset is "special" compared to what I am used to. It takes time to wrap my head around it, because it is pretty foreign to me. To be fair, I wasn't aware how different the Russian mindset was to the western mindset before the war. Of course, not all Russians are the same. But it takes a "special" kind of mind supporting a war that is pretty much only approved by North Korea.
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@alexokunnur8946 - correct each person is an individual, however at group levels there are traits different people have in common. This is often called a 'culture' or 'mentality'. Things that work in one country or culture might not work in another, because of this. I don't claim to know the finer details of Russian (or as you point out - all the sub-divisions) culture. But I can easily spot places were the mentality at a high level is very different. (Same as a Russian would be able to spot the difference in willingness to do a major demonstration in France vs. Norway. It is an easy thing to spot.) For example the Russians seems to have a much higher tolerance for accepting and enduring hardship than what we see in the West (again in general).
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@Memovox - thankfully, not adjusted for purchasing power. Also Norway has a shit-ton of electric cars, so fuel prices are not really a big deal.
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@KarlReimerGodt - naah, if there is a hole in the bucket, you don't pour more water in the hole to fill the bucket. You plug the hole.
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@outerspaceoutlander - well, what will happen is simple, Russia is being disconnected from the Western world. It takes time, but trade to the West will go down to zero eventually. And yes, Europe isn't the biggest continent in terms of people, but compared to Russia it is big. Resources will be found elsewhere, just like Germany did with its gas. It is more expensive, but Russia did piss off Western Europe, so then that is what will happen. So, it is time for Russians to look east. Start learning Chinese.
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@haias4839 - Russians are so poor because they are being fucked by their corrupt government. Its really sad to see really.
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@СергейКарташков-э9ъ - Russia is so far behind Germany in living standards it isn't funny even. When all the money ends up into a corrupt elite, you cannot look at the average PPP, median is were it is. In any case, seeing non-effective Western sanctions are, you can bet any Russian sanctions will be even less effective. Bypassing sanctions in a corrupt society is a non-issue. It is sad Putin chose to fuck over the Russians this way, but it is what it is. Cold war is back on the menu, and China will seek to gain a lot on it.
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@zemm9003 - like all measurements it has its use cases.
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@vladimirnikolskiy - probably true. But wood being cheap in an poor area with loads of wood around isn't strange. If you go into a poor town in northern Sweden you'll find the price for fire wood being low as well. But at the end of the day, you can look at how people live to get an idea of the wealth. And it is clearly not found in this town.
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What is truly amazing is that people with access to the internet think that Russia botched invasion of Ukraine now somehow can be "swift and decisive". Russia has less and less control over Ukraine, had to fall back to mobilization to backfill its ranks. Russia has managed to destroy and capture a small village over the last 6 months of fighting (while loosing control of large areas in Ukrainian offensives). At this rate it will take Russia hundreds of years to take Ukraine, assuming no future Ukrainian offensives. I'm genuinely curious to how one can be so disconnected from reality, when you have access to all the info in the world.
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Probably true. The good news is that it isn't relevant anymore - the only relevant thing is how much military gear Ukraine will get to keep killing Russians, and how long Putin will want to kill more Russians and Ukrainians.
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You know this war is great for the American economy, right? Because Europe is in the process of re-arming itself, and guess who sells weapons? USD is now very strong, and you can get a lot of imported goods for it.
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@GoViking933 - I'm not Russian, but I think I share your view of them to a degree.
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Yes, even more so in authoritarian regimes.
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Well, Russia will have to fight Ukraine, until USA runs out of weapons. That's not looking good for Russia.
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@FaithsFallen - why would anyone launch nukes if Ukraine was going to be beaten? You know the only nuclear power that is part of this conflict is Russia. Although in Russian propaganda they pretend to fight NATO in Ukraine, the truth is, NATO is just sending some spare stuff that was not being used anyways to Ukraine. Russia just need to pull back from Ukraine, if they don't want more Russians and Ukrainians to die. Putin could do that tomorrow.
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