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Comments by "Incurable Romantic" (@incurableromantic4006) on "Was Colonialism Good or Bad?" video.
Blaming "evil colonizers" is a very convenient alibi for the incompetence, dogmatism and corruption of post-colonial leaders. You can see this a lot in India where it's become fashionable to blame the British for all their problems: despite the fact their country wouldn't exist without Britain, all their institutions are based on British ones, and their economy magically started taking off once they dispensed with the socialist ideology they adopted for the first 40 years after independence.
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@aAverageFan If it hadn't been the British - it would have needed to be some other empire. Dozens of small feudal states don't come together voluntarily
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@kushagraverma4943 "You can't predict an alternate reality" That's literally what you just did - claimed that without the British all those small Indian states would magically have decided to unify through some process too laborious for you to think through. Without Britain, India would be like the DRC - just countless warring tribes.
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@globalnationalismyoutube "Indian leaders don't blame the British for our post-colonial problems" Plenty of Indians do do - every time I make a comment on British India I'm deluged with hordes of dingbat Indian nationalists foaming at the mouth about supposed quadrillions of dollars "looted" from India and supposed trillions "murdered" by the British (the numbers keep getting more and more hysterical as they compete with each other to be the most extreme). There's never acknowledgment of all Britain did for the country or of their own poor policy decisions since independence.
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@kushagraverma4943 You didn't really provide an argument you just offered a counterfactual based on the theory that a loose coalition (that was too weak to fend off a country projecting tiny military forces from thousands of miles away) - would have magically developed the strength to become it's own continent spanning empire. It's an interesting piece of "what if" speculation - but its still a pure theoretical.
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@kushagraverma4943 Not at all - extrapolating from a real situation that really happened: is not remotely the same as inventing a pure theoretical and extrapolating from that. It's the difference between empiricism and ideology. Plus - I guarantee that if your rather fantastic scenario had happened: there would be people in other regions of India today blaming their woes on "centuries of oppression" by the Marathas. I've seen the phenomenon in my own country with the Celtic nations.
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@globalnationalismyoutube "You spoke about British India - not independent India" No - I spoke about people in India today: in 2023.
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@kushagraverma4943 Quite a few people on this thread have explained to you how implausible your rather childish little nationalist fantasy is - but if you're determined to go on dreaming about it: go ahead. Hell why not imagine your loose little alliance of small medieval states conquering the whole world? And then sending rockets to Mars in the 1800s? Since you're in the realms of pure fantasy. I will stick to the actual history and the actual facts: which are that modern India is almost entirely a British creation. How ever much those facts might annoy some rather silly people who prefer nationalist day dreams.
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"The British forced a bunch of tribes that were at best neutral to each other but at worst actively hostile into on Country" But surely "diversity is a strength"? That's what we're always being told in Europe. . . . . . .
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@littlebitoftrolling2859 Ladies and gentlemen I present as my example, exhibit one - almost 80 years after independence, and dingbat Indian nationalists are still dribbling away about their slums being somehow the fault of the people who brought them modern institutions and modern technology. Israel was founded at the same time as India, by people who had just survived the *holocaust*, and they managed to create a modern and developed society despite being surrounded by people trying to destroy it. Culture matters, leadership matters, and blaming people who are long dead for all your problems - is a loser's mentality.
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@zuesmaya8167 "Indian system is not based on British system, but mostly on American system" I was going to reply to your comment - then I read that part and decided you are SO lacking in the most basic relevant knowledge, there's not a lot of point. "Historians often rate the ICS, together with the railway system, the legal system, and the Indian Army, as among the most important legacies of British rule in India" - Citation from Ramesh Kumar Arora and Rajni Goyal, Indian public administration: institutions and issues (1995) Sadly this is typical of Indian nationalists - low IQ, low education, very high levels of emotion: and a tendency to engage in childish fantasy.
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