Comments by "DonXardas" (@DonXardas) on "Konstantin Kisin vs. Entire Audience at Doha Debates" video.

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  3.  @Woodsaras  ok, to be honest I did not expect a coherent answer that was not a mix of slurs. Kudos to you for that. Okay let talk about your points, I for once am interessted in an youtube commentator's opinion. You object to censorship of opinions. I get that. I have 2 problems with your argument. 1. England with all the censorship is objectivly better than Russia or China or some Middle East hole. Cause they censor way more. And we are not even talking about other laws. So objectivly speaking you would have to agree that England or other western countries are better in comparison. 2. The problem with censorship is if you want a variety of opinions you will not only get good/interesting opinions. You will get silly and useless opinions and what is even worse you will get outright evil and harmfull opinions. Thats is why I do not agree that it is a copout and useless. We can compare our country to others and learn from that, we can see if we are doing fine or not. Why would somebody criticize the government on topics where their views are similar? You actually do compare countries. I mean you can compare ideals, but the ideals do not matter as long as the people do not "live" those ideals. And while comparing countries we do exactly that, we compare the behaviour of people. I would argue he knows enough aboit other countries. I myself lived in a few including post-soviet space and yeah what he says is mostly true. While I agree with you that England is not the best country regarding reedom of speech, it is still near the top. The only countries where I would say it is better are Israel and Switzerland. The rest of EU is on the similar level to England with Austria probably being somewhat better. Ok the next point is interesting. It depends what you mean with worldview. I think he means political/value system. And I totally agree with him (if we are talking about systems that are actually being used and not about theoretical systems). Those systems are objectivly worse than our system, just when you compare the standart of living alone. So of course it is "enemy propaganda". Dont you think that people in those other systems see western values as "enemy propaganda". That does not mean that there only bad idead in other systems. We ahould learn from them, take the good ideas and implement them in our system. Nobody is saying that you should never critisize your own system. And Konstantin have critisized his own government on multiple occassions. The problem is that the talk here was not about issues of England. It was a discussion about the different systems. And even with all their problems, the western system"s" are superior to all other systems that ae being used right now. I would argue that there is a far superior system, but sadly there probably is never gonna be a country with such a system.
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