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Mark Zuckergecko
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Comments by "Mark Zuckergecko" (@markzuckergecko621) on "The Sorry State of Pop Culture" video.
To me, the problem isn't politics being mixed in pop culture, it's that they've lost all sense of subtlety, and it just comes across as preachy. I always use the old Star Trek movies and series as an example, there were a lot of political themes in them, but they actually told a good story, because they posed difficult questions but didn't give you the answer, it was up to the audience to think about it. They presented both sides, where you could actually see the motivations of the Borg, and why they thought of themselves as "the good guys".
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They probably colonized all the countries between them and the shore, but they just left that part out.
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@MirandaSinsera true. And I think the funny part when we're talking about Black Panther in particular, is I think the writers were trying to go for the same thing I used as an example, where Killmonger is the villain in the way the Borg were in Star Trek, but it's supposed to make you think and see where Killmonger is coming from, and even question if he might be right. The problem is...... No. He's not right. He's a psychotic genocidal maniac. Any sane person thinks about it for about 4 seconds and concludes "oh yea, he's a crazy monster. Definitely not the good guy." But in the minds of these deranged, race obsessed lunatics, they actually wrote a compelling villain with a sympathetic motivation.
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@rico9374 for me it's not necessarily being political, it's more about "the message". It's fine for media to have a political theme, it just tells a better story when they don't explicitly take a side. You're supposed to ask the questions and let the audience find the answer themselves.
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@kevinb9830 it's so tiresome. Even if practically everyone dies, and the first movie has a very neat, conclusive ending, they'll just retcon it for a sequel, or mash together some poorly conceived prequel.
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@ryanoneill3192 it's hard for me to believe it's organic. Sure, there's a lot of people who will just watch anything MCU that Disney craps out, I know people like that. It's almost like a collectable, like they feel obligated and committed, because they've seen all of them, so even if a new one comes out they're not even interested in, they watch it anyway. But I don't think that accounts for as much as they consistently draw in. I think China helps them fudge those numbers, their CCP donors probably just buy several thousand tickets each just to make it look like it's more popular than it really is.
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@Mikedot right, and I'm not even saying the left shouldn't make media that's explicitly on their side too, that's fine, it's just that it's very difficult to be that on the nose with your messaging and still tell a good story. Of course they don't care about that, that's where this entire problem arises from. Mainstream pop culture has become bland and watered down, because they're compromising good story telling for naked propaganda.
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