Comments by "Mark Zuckergecko" (@markzuckergecko621) on "Everything Is Now Right Wing" video.

@Gormen Freeman thank you for this, it always blows my mind when people call themselves "Anarcho communists", or when they say fascism is the far right. Anarchy and communism couldn't possibly be more conflicting with one another, and fascism is more left wing than it is right wing, strong ties to tradition and national identity are really the only things "right wing" about fascism, and those things aren't even exclusive to what left and right really means, just generally more correlated with the right.
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@timesthree5757 he represents the actual left, that may have some naive and idealistic views, but can still have a conversation about ideas with people who disagree with him. And the looney far left can't have that. Any free exchange of ideas means their ideas get tossed into the proverbial idea dumpster, where they belong.
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@timesthree5757 same here. We would probably disagree about more than we agree about if me and him were talking politics, but that's fine, he seems like an alright dude. I had a bunch of hippie friends in high school and college, most of them are pretty cool people. And most of them also don't really know what they're talking about when it comes to that stuff, if you actually engage them with ideas they'll pretty quickly realize they're over their heads. The ones that double down and pretend like they're right just because they say they're right are the ones that became far leftists.
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@BertoxolusThePuzzled how does that even work though? "Everyone has to pay their fair share!" "Make me." "Fair point....."
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@BertoxolusThePuzzled well that's not really anarchy then, even though that's not a tangible government structure, it's still a mob essentially serving as a heirarchal or governmental structure. I guess you could call it anarchy-ish, because it's a very loose structure, but you still can't really call that a true anarchy.
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@Gormen Freeman one thing that makes more sense to me than the traditional left/right paradigm, or even the political compass axis is the pyramid structure, where you have liberal, fascist, and communist in the respective corners. Liberalism valuing liberty most, fascism valuing order and tradition, and communism valuing progress and equity. Shortfatotaku has a really good video breaking it down in detail, but it really gives a lot of nuance to where people actually lie within those confines, very few people are really going to be on an extreme corner, but pretty much all moderates in the west would be towards the top corner (liberal), both traditional liberals and conservatives, because they value liberty the most, but liberals would be a little towards the left side of the slope, since the value progress and equity more than tradition and order, even though liberty still trumps both of those, and conservatives would be towards the right side of the slope, since they value tradition and order over progress and equity, but still not as much as liberty. But it also explains why communists call everyone a fascist, and fascists call everyone a communist. Because they're both on the extremes, to a communist, progress and equity are ALL that matters, so whether you're an actual fascist that values tradition and order above all else, or you're a liberal that values liberty, it doesn't matter to them, if you stand in the way of progress and equity, you're a fascist. And fascists see anyone standing in the way of tradition and order in the same way. That's why fascists and communists can seem the same in a lot of ways. Because they are. Their tactics are the same, but to serve a different end.
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