Comments by "Mark Zuckergecko" (@markzuckergecko621) on "British Poems Legalised" video.

I don't know if I would call this a "victory", it's more like stealing a round in a fight you're already losing 7 rounds to nothing.
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I'm very surprised by Leo taking that position about hate crimes being worse than others, I really don't see where it matters whether a crime was done out of racial motivation, greed, or ignorance, it's still the same thing. The only time motivation should matter in a crime, in the legal sense, is if it somehow justifies the action, like self defense.
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@kenric5084 it is pretty crazy though how merely not being a bat shit insane authoritarian is enough to be considered "right wing" by a lot of people. Look how many people think Tim Pool and Joe Rogan are far right. It's completely insane.
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Yea he's probably what would have been considered liberal by American labels about 10 years ago. But the left has fired itself out of the crazy cannon so far to the left, that's considered "right" by them. They think democrats are right wing and Republicans are far right. Which is total nonsense, it's true that the parties are pretty similar because they're mostly concerned with keeping the power structure as it is, but that doesn't make them right wing, that just makes them politicians that have been handed undue power by leftists who are so stupid they think the government is gonna give them free stuff just because they're cool dudes like that.
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@michaelsorensen7567 yea that makes sense. We have to remember that the whole point of prison is to either remove someone from society or try to rehabilitate them. Not that we're actually living to that standard in most western countries, it's definitely mutated into not that. But that was the intent. So someone's probability of remorse and rehab should be taken into account in sentencing.
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@vaclavjebavy5118 intent and motivation are different things. Killing someone on purpose and killing them by accident are fundamentally different things, but killing them because of their race, or because they called you a name are really not fundamentally different.
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@vaclavjebavy5118 well what that generally means in the most practical sense is that you caught the person doing something detestable and killed or attacked them in a fit of rage. If they were demonstrably committing a depraved crime, like struggle snuggling your daughter or something like that, and you blew his brains out, you would probably not be convicted of a crime, or at least be reduced to a less severe conviction. That makes complete sense.
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@vaclavjebavy5118 yea, and like most legalese arguments, it's often used more as a tool than a legitimate claim. And there's a lot of grey area too, like if you catch your wife cheating, are you justified in killing her and her lover? There's a lot of varying views on that. I say no, I say you're justified in whooping his ass and divorcing her ass, and not leaving her a penny. But I don't think murder is justified because of extreme emotional distress.
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@vaclavjebavy5118 well sure, for every absolutely absurd legal technicality, there's a reason it exists. I still believe the US has a fundamentally solid legal system, there's just too much corruption and too much financial involvement. If someone pleads guilty to a crime, whether they're given probation or time served is almost exclusively dependent on whether or not they can pay for probation and/or a good lawyer. And by "good lawyer" I mean an expensive lawyer that has their hands in the right pockets. That's wrong, that's the primary part of the judicial and legal system that needs to be reformed.
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@bbbbbbb51 I would still expand that to include greed and ignorance, although as I stated in the OP, it doesn't really matter. But if someone steals, it's generally not because of hate, most of the time it's just greed, they just want the money or car or whatever else they stole. They probably don't care who they stole it from and may not even know them. Drunk driving and things like that are generally ignorance, or apathy, a drunk driver doesn't usually hate the person they got into a wreck with, they probably don't even know them. They just didn't care.
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@vaclavjebavy5118 basically "crime of passion" is more about the motivation than your actual state of mind, you could be completely calm and rational in the moment and still justifiably claim crime of passion, and it would even more loosely fit into the category of self defense. Even if the person isn't directly threatening your life.
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