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Comments by "Mark Zuckergecko" (@markzuckergecko621) on "The Final Five: How Chinese Famines Reached their 20th Century Peak" video.
@toddlerj102 sure they do, it just may not be easily accessible. That's not the same as an actual famine, where there's no food. It's gone. It's not available at all. It's not there.
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While simultaneously accusing everyone else of "believing propaganda".
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@stefanschleps8758 "the most important thing we learn from history, is that we don't learn from history" that's a quote this crazy hippie history professor I had in college used to always say. I went to college back when they actually taught stuff other than why you should hate yourself and your country, and what kind of make believe genders you can be.
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Uh oh. All the black fist icons aren't gonna like you for this one, Simon.
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@angusorvid8840 definitely true. But people eating a ridiculously unhealthy diet is closer to the opposite of famine than it is to famine. We have a surplus of junk food.
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@TheRatsintheWalls imagine going to a college campus and saying the 2 phrases, "Nazis are bad" and "communists are bad", and the contrast in reactions. Any college campus, randomly, anywhere in the US. The first would be met nearly unanimously with "yep, Nazis are bad. Nazis definitely bad." The latter would be met with a bunch of wannabe intellectuals starting an argument over what "real communism" is and how it's never been tried, and that communism is actually good in theory. That's a problem. And if you don't think that's a problem, you're part of the problem.
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@TheRatsintheWalls that's the backbone of Marxist subversion, it's never a giant leap all at once, it's never any single, easily quantifiable thing. It's a million little baby steps, all in the same direction. Until one day you look up and there's actual communists teaching university courses, and University students that think that's completely normal.
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I hear Alaska is hiring. Not too crowded there.
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It's not the socialism or communism they signed up for, but it's the socialism and communism they got. Because that's what always happens. So in that regard, yes, it is "real" socialism. That's the mistake you're making, you're conflating what socialism says it is with what it actually is.
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@TheRatsintheWalls something like 95% of American college professors identify as liberal, or left wing.
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@TheRatsintheWalls it kinda does though. If the near unanimous consensus of the entire country, within or outside of college campuses is "Nazis bad", but when presented with the question of whether communism is bad, a very large percent of people will respond with "well actually......" then we have a serious far left problem. Honestly, imagine the same thing in reverse. Imagine if you saw people defending and apologizing for Nazism or fascism all over the internet and all over college campuses.
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@TheRatsintheWalls creates the illusion that most people are leftist, or at least more than half of people. But that's not true at all. The overwhelming majority of Americans that actually pay attention to politics are moderate or right leaning. You have to be an extra special kind of stupid and/or evil to actually keep up with politics and still be on the left. Seriously, the worst people on the planet, or you're certifiably insane and not fit for society. It's some combination of those things, with absolutely zero exceptions.
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@SkunkApe407 I didn't say it wasn't bad, I just said it's not a famine. Words have meanings. And you can take all your make believe virtue and shove it up your ass, you and I both know you would never help another person unless you thought you would get something out of it.
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Lmao, do you feel bad? Because I do whenever I'm shoving my face full of pizza and one of those starving kids commercials comes on. I just kinda turn to the side and eat that way, pretending it's not there.
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@TheRatsintheWalls first part, yes, even though they're not smart enough to understand that. Second part, sorta, the majority of people who would call themselves "left" just don't pay any attention to politics, or very little attention. So thanks to media propaganda they think "right, racist, left, not racist" and think holy shit, I'm not racist! I guess I'm on the left!
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@TheRatsintheWalls I can tell by the way you talk, you're further left than you let on, or maybe more so than you realize.
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@TheRatsintheWalls go for it.
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@TheRatsintheWalls well the centrist position those issues would be that equality under the law is a good thing, and capitalism is also a good thing, with social programs and safety nets. So that sounds like medium left. I would say further left than just a little bit left, but still not far far left. But the fact that you don't seem to care or think there's anything wrong with communist professors in universities tells me you're probably actually a little further left than that.
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@TheRatsintheWalls stupid most likely. I think you're being a little dishonest about what's going on with culture, specifically in universities, I think you're trying to play the "you can't prove it" game.
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@TheRatsintheWalls it's impossible to be a leftist and honest at the same time. It's like being a rhinoceros and a train at the same time.
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@garretth8224 if it were so bad that not a single person was getting a legitimate degree, then everyone would know it was a problem and we wouldn't even be having this conversation. I already touched on this in another comment, it's not one single obvious thing, it's hundreds or even thousands of small things, none of which are enough to cause alarm in a vacuum. So people who are either not paying attention, or flat out lying, will say there's nothing wrong going on at all.
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@ThunderStruck15 the problem with America is people like you are here.
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@ThunderStruck15 you can do whatever you want, but when there are people who hate their own country, it's going to have negative effects on that country. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. All of the things that suck about America are because people who suck are here, like you. We would all be better off if you left.
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@ThunderStruck15 I already clearly stated that you can do whatever you want. No need continuing this, since you're not capable of being honest.
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40% of the food produced is what?
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@manicpepsicola3431 tell me how many Americans you think starve every year. Go ahead. Give it an estimate.
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They probably account for that when they tally up those numbers.
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@jordanclark4635 because the whole point of socialism is to cause wide scaled economic collapse, leading to desperate people desperately giving in to authoritarianism.
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@jordanclark4635 the point of capitalism is to reward hard work by letting people keep what they earn. Which leads to a handful of people getting stupid rich, but a whole lot more people being more rich than they would be under socialism, and some idiots that aren't smart enough to capitalize or don't work hard enough to earn anything shaking their fists at the sky. Which is hilarious.
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@jordanclark4635 🤣🤣🤣 of course you did. That makes this make more sense. Yes, someone owns companies, but anyone can own a company, most people just don't have the means or desire to take on that much investment and risk. So they work for someone who's already started a company. Less risk. If you're not happy, or don't feel like you're getting paid what you're worth, you're free to leave and work at a different company. Or start your own company. And if you can't do either of those things, then you're probably not worth what you think you're worth.
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@jordanclark4635 Nordic countries are capitalist with high taxes. Which is the exact straw man you use when you accuse people of thinking socialism means high taxes, and calling them stupid. But it's different when you do it. And sure, people have value as a person, but that doesn't mean you get money and stuff just because you want it. When it comes to monetary value, you get what you give. At least in a functional economy. Which is why socialism isn't a functional economy. Which is why it devolves into authoritarianism. You following this yet? Or does it not count because a communist professor isn't saying it?
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@jordanclark4635 well, would you say that income inequality in the US is better, or worse than it was 50 years ago?
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@jordanclark4635 and is there more regulation and social policies in those 50 years, or less?
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@jordanclark4635 lmao, you're a clown, you just cherry picked one metric that you think supports your claim and ignored all the rest. No reasonable person can honestly say that the US is more free market oriented now than it was 50 years ago.
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@jordanclark4635 progressive tax rates and increased welfare aren't capitalist.
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@jordanclark4635 in that regard, yes. I love how you pretend like there's only one factor involved, but only when it suits the narrative you're trying to push. You're slipping bud. I would estimate 5 more comments before you disappear.
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@jordanclark4635 but welfare has only expanded, along with corporate bail outs and business regulations. None of that is capitalist.
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@jordanclark4635 I didn't say it was socialist, I said it wasn't capitalist.
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@jordanclark4635 if you really want to be overly simplistic and make it a dichotomy, fascism and communism would both align more closely with socialism. And the government selectively bailing out and propping up their preferred businesses definitely leans more towards the communist or fascist side than capitalism.
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@jordanclark4635 well I'll say one thing, I was definitely wrong about you running away after 5 more posts. But no, fascism is definitely socialist, as were Nazis. Just because you think they're bad, and you think socialism is good, doesn't mean they're not what they are.
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@jordanclark4635 and no historian or political theorist would say that most of the people who supported the Nazis got what they thought they were signing up for. That's kind of the whole point of all this. That's what "real" socialism is, it's smoke and mirrors that's sold to stupid people. And that's also the difference between practice and theory. I'm not quite so concerned with the theory behind something that's only resulted in disaster when put into practice.
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@jordanclark4635 the only thing right wing about fascists and Nazis are their strong ties to tradition and nationalism. Everything else about them is left wing.
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@jordanclark4635 I never said it was successful socialism.
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@jordanclark4635 so in modern terms, would you say that the left is more collective and the right is more individualist?
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@gogrape9716 lmao.
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