Comments by "Mark Zuckergecko" (@markzuckergecko621) on "Using Abortion to Reject Your Duty" video.

My fiancee is pregnant, and it's been absolutely revolting how many women asked us if we're "keeping it" when we first found out and were telling people, even when we've gone to the OB to get check ups and blood work and all that, one of the nurses or other staff always have to remind us that we're in Texas and will have to go somewhere else if we want "certain procedures". We never even discussed that as an option, and haven't given any sort of suggestion that we were even thinking about it, that's just the first thing a lot of people jump to whenever anything about pregnancy is brought up.
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@Cytochrome8 encouraging people to make good life decisions is empathy. Giving them a free pass to do whatever they want and pass responsibility onto someone else is enabling.
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That's just leftism in general. One of my favorite booby traps to throw out in front of leftists when I argue with them online is to ask them to give ONE example of something they think should be a personal responsibility that everyone should have to take care of on their own. Any example at all, completely open ended question. I've never once got a straight forward answer. It's not even much of a booby trap, they could even say personal health or something like that, but they can't give a single example. It's a foreign concept to them.
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@DriveInFreak can you name one thing you think people should be personally responsible for? This is a real question, completely open ended. I want you to give ONE example of something that you accept as your responsibility and yours alone, and that you think everyone else should be equally responsible for in their own life.
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@MsMounen saying people should have self respect is gross?
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@DriveInFreak nobody could say anything more insane than not allowing the mother to kill her child because it's inconvenient is "forced birth" if they were trying to say the most insane thing possible.
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@DriveInFreak how many homeless people do you have living with you for free? If your answer is anything other than "all of them", you don't care about the homeless, according to your own logic.
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At a certain point, that's got to be an option though. You have to keep in mind that the entire existence of domestic pets is an invention of human society, they're completely dependent on us for survival. So for a great deal of them, their death is in our hands too. It's never an easy choice, and you're pretty much always going to second guess yourself one way or another, either that you did it too soon and they still had some good time left, or you waited too long and made them suffer. That's completely normal, most pet owners feel that. But one day, that difficult question is probably going to become a reality.
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@DriveInFreak saying someone who has sex is "forced into giving birth" is like saying someone who eats 30 cheeseburgers for breakfast every day was forced into having diabetes.
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@DriveInFreak good for you if that's true, but we both know it's not. And I'm not forcing anyone to do anything other than not kill someone just because it's more convenient for them that way. I think that's a pretty reasonable measure of "force", that's sort of the entire point of having a society in the first place.
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@iamwhoyousayiam6773 people start from different positions in life, and they don't end up in the same place they started. It's not for me to determine whether someone is worthy of life or not, so everyone is worthy of life.
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@DriveInFreak yes, sometimes your actions result in consequences you didn't want. Welcome to life, get a helmet and buckle your seatbelt, because it gets harder than that.
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@DriveInFreak I'm not trying to, or claiming to. Reality dictates the consequences for me.
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My fiancee is pregnant, and we've had very similar experiences. We've had several nurses at her OB's office remind us that we have to leave the state if we want an abortion, neither of us have suggested or even displayed any kind of tone or body language that would suggest we want that. It's disgusting
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One of my coworkers was ranting about it yesterday, how you can't "control women's bodies" by telling them they can't do something that brings them pleasure without any possible consequences, I just pointed out to her that eating cheeseburgers can bring pleasure too, but you can also get diabetes. She completely froze, as though the concept of risk and reward had never even crossed her mind.
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@Sinhsseax there's an inherent risk of something unplanned with just about everything you do. That's how life works. Sometimes stuff just falls in your lap, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, sometimes it's just unexpected. But you don't get to take another life just because you don't like an unexpected outcome.
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@ArcherBro I think so too. And we look back at it like everyone was just totally fine with it and never thought twice, but that's not true either, there were people who fought back against it long before it was abolished, just like there are people fighting back against abortion now.
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They would probably already know a great deal about it, we're probably in a pretty normal stage of "limbo" as a species, where we're either going to overcome these obstacles and continue on as a species, or just go extinct under the unbearable weight of stupid.
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Yea I'm an atheist and anti abortion. I don't think Christianity or any kind of religious faith is necessary in coming to the conclusion that it's wrong to terminate a baby just because it's inconvenient to you. I think even pro abortion people know that somewhere in their subconscious, they just don't care, because they only care about themselves.
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@blindlobster prison offers all the same things. We could just throw unwanted babies in prison. It would be cheaper too.
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@DriveInFreak lmao, right, you care about people so much you want to encourage people to kill unwanted babies.
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@DriveInFreak yes, a lot of people have weak minds and are easily influenced by far left propaganda. I am aware of that.
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@DriveInFreak does that mean I can just kill you in your sleep? Because you don't know you exist when you're sleeping. It's fine. You won't know any better.
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@DriveInFreak imagine that, a leftist who doesn't think people with different opinions deserve to live. Because that's never ended badly.
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@honey yea neither of us have expressed anything but happiness and anticipation when we've told people or gone to have anything medical done. Everything happened pretty fast, we were only together a few months before, so I can maaaaaaybe understand old friends of hers asking, just kinda like "are you sure?" kinda thing. But it's pretty gross for people in a professional setting like a doctor's office to be pushing in that direction.
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@DriveInFreak whether Moloch is real or not, you're sure doing a great job of making yourself seem like a ghoul that doesn't value human life. Nobody is going to make you value your own life, but you don't get to project that onto others and treat them like their life has no value just because you're a pathetic loser with no purpose.
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@DriveInFreak if someone didn't force someone to have sex, then they're not forcing them to give birth. I really don't understand why you can't grasp this concept. You need to take your meds, little fella.
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@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756 I work with mostly women, and they've made a lot of gross comments like "it's a good thing it's your woman and not me, because I'd have an abortion and you couldn't do anything about it" and shit like that. To which I respond "no shit, that's why you're not my woman".
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And always dishonest. The anti abortion position is simple and straight forward - abortion is murder, murder is wrong. Simple as. All the pro abortion arguments rely on appeals to emotion, false accusations of wanting to "control women", which are completely meritless, if you have to insert your own opinion about people's motivations, you don't have an argument, using the exception as the rule, which is also dishonest, and every other mental gymnastics maneuver ever created from the school of dishonest argumentation.
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Imagine what Hitler would think: "vee can just kindly ask zim to kill zimselves?? Vy didn't I sink of zat?????"
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@Cytochrome8 nobody is suggesting otherwise, but if you make up your mind and decide to have sex, you're consenting to the possibility of kids. That's how science works.
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@thecurious926 but she's still gonna have diabetes, with or without treatment. What's done is done.
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@thecurious926 the treatment for diabetes also doesn't involve taking another person's life.
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@thecurious926 so I should be able to kill my neighbor just because he's annoying? Because that's what you're saying. It's ok to kill someone because their existence is inconvenient for you. Imagine how many people are inconvenienced by your existence.
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@thecurious926 lmao, it's always someone else's responsibility with you lefties. No, you cannot kill someone because their existence is inconvenient for you, and no, you cannot demand someone else's money because you made an irresponsible decision. Do you even hear yourself? Is there one thing in this entire world you're willing to take personal responsibility for? Serious question. Name one thing.
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@thecurious926 and a baby can't survive for several years without adults taking care of them, no different than when they're in the womb. Do you think it would be ok for a mother to kill her 2 year old just because it had become too burdensome? Your viability argument is just as nonsensical as the rest of your nonsense arguments. Grow up and take responsibility for your actions, like a normal person.
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@thecurious926 distinction without a difference, nobody forced the mother to get pregnant, she made her own choices, and choices have consequences. You don't get to kill someone because you're irresponsible, society cannot operate like that. I would be all for people like you getting sterilized, hell I would even donate heftily to that cause myself, the idea of someone like you being responsible for another person is horrifying, but that still doesn't make it acceptable for you to kill unborn babies.
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Yikes, that sounds like a communist's wet dream if they were having trouble recruiting people to the military.
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