Comments by "Mark Zuckergecko" (@markzuckergecko621) on "The Thesis of Conservatism" video.

@sevenproxies4255 that's a pretty dishonest way of looking at libertarian perspectives though, when most people talk about the freedom to choose for themselves, they're also including that you should have to accept the consequences of your choices. That's why taxation is such a big issue with most libertarians, you wanna be a deadbeat loser and play Xbox all day and eat Cheetos? I honestly don't care. But don't expect me to pay taxes so you can buy a new game, that part is on you.
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I've always considered myself somewhere on the crossroads of conservative and libertarian, I definitely lean on the libertarian side of things as opposed to authoritarian on most issues, if I feel like there's anywhere close to an even balance between the authoritarian and libertarian argument, I'm tending to side with libertarian. But I also think there should be unwritten and compulsory "cultural laws", I don't believe in moral relativism in the same way leftist weirdos do, I think we need some kind of social enforcement for people to act right and stop celebrating poor behavior. So I guess that's the conservative side of me.
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@sasi5841 yea something like that. That's why lower taxation a social spending is such an important aspect though, because when people are left to their own devices to do what they want, and they also have boatloads of free cash coming their way from daddy government, that's when all the degeneracy and irresponsible behavior rolls in. People would naturally act in a more culturally and fiscally conservative way if they only had themselves and voluntary charity to fall back on if they end up being useless.
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@sevenproxies4255 you know anarchist and libertarian aren't the same thing, right? Because every straw man you're arguing against, that nobody is saying, seems to be a straw man of anarchy.
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@sevenproxies4255 I just think it's more efficient on a smaller scale, cut out the lifeline of the government taking care of people who don't take care of themselves, and a sense of community would fill in those gaps, out of necessity.
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@sevenproxies4255 you're really not capable of arguing in good faith, are you?
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@sevenproxies4255 well clearly the problem is that you just don't understand libertarian positions, despite the fact that several people just in this thread have told you their position, and you refuse to listen and just insert your own straw man position you would rather them have. Problem is you, buddy.
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@sevenproxies4255 so you're admitting that you're not addressing what people are actually saying. Even though I don't think you realize you're admitting that. Good job buddy.
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@Darryl_Francis I know what you mean, and I think the burning question, is the what's the difference between what people should do, and what they should have to do? And there really isn't an easy answer, not at all. Obviously you can't just let people do whatever they want and then get confused when they don't do what you think they should do. That's why some government is necessary. But you also don't want to lean too heavily on telling people what they have to do, even with the best intentions this always ends up mirroring some form of leftist authoritarianism.
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@sevenproxies4255 do you think nobody cares about anyone right now? I'm guessing not. So why do you think people do care about each other? Because the government tells them to?
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In today's political climate? Being a conservative just means not being a communist.
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@Langharig_Tuig you're just taking a surface level glance at what those terms mean in a literal sense, and completely ignoring their meaning in a political context - which is the only context that matters, when we're talking about politics.
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@Langharig_Tuig but when someone refers to a conservative, or a progressive in today's political context, you know what kind of ideology they're referring to, don't you?
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@Langharig_Tuig why would you be discussing politics with someone without knowing what country their points are in reference to? Sounds like you need to talk less and listen more, maybe that will clear up some misunderstandings you have.
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@Langharig_Tuig so what should we call people who most people would refer to as progressive? Give me your better alternative terminology.
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@Langharig_Tuig so you're just arguing semantics, and taking the scenic route to make it sound like you're saying something profound, but you're actually just arguing semantics because you think it makes you sound smart and insightful. Got it.
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@Langharig_Tuig you're high AF on your own farts, aren't you?
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@sevenproxies4255 go back and read my first comment in the goddamn thread, boy genius. And then show me where I claimed to be a libertarian.
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@sevenproxies4255 I clarified it in my first comment, numbnuts. It's not someone else's fault you can't read.
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@Darryl_Francis the most meaningful step we could take towards reversing all the damage done by leftism in the last half century would be to have more restrictive voting protocols. And I realize that's very idealistic, I can't imagine any scenario where we can democratically change the voting system to make it more restrictive, but the best first step in that direction would be to just make it a pain in the ass. Yep, it's really that simple. Put a bunch of legal bullshit in the way of registering and voting, not even anything that anyone can't do, just annoying paperwork and shit like that, that most people don't want to do. This would eliminate apathetic voters, you would have to really care and be passionate about your elected representatives to go through all of that effort to vote, the idea that someone who pays attention to politics for 15 minutes once every 4 years can just hop in their car and go vote is pretty much the core reason our political structure is so corrupt. A lot of other things would fall into place in a sort of domino effect if we could start with that.
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