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Comments by "Valen Ron" (@valenrn8657) on "'No one' was off limits in Paul Keating's 'stinging Press Club address' on AUKUS" video.

The new nuclear-powered subs have a vertical launching system (VLS). AIP-powered subs are unable to perform stealthy shadow escort roles due to their slow speed i.e. 6.5 knots for 11,000 km.
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During the G20 meeting in Australia, the proposed AIP-powered and Colins subs cannot perform stealthy fast intercept when a small Russian fleet parked themselves outside Australia's north-east waters and this caused Australia to enlist US nuclear-powered submarine (SSN)'s support. The Collins sub is unable to shadow escort the faster Australian surface warships on an intercept mission.
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@yapkent That's a red herring. Australia's exports to China (32%) is roughly equivalent to Japan, South Korea and India. When Australia's exports with JP+SK+India+US+VN+NZ are combined (42%), the balance is towards non-China partners.
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During the G20 meeting in Australia, the proposed AIP-powered and Colins subs cannot perform stealthy fast intercept when a small Russian fleet parked themselves outside Australia's north-east waters and this caused Australia to enlist US nuclear-powered submarine (SSN)'s support. The Collins sub is unable to shadow escort the faster Australian surface warships on an intercept mission.
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@yapkent With an Australian SSN, the Australian government has less need for US SSN outsourcing. The planned Australian SSNs are effectively underwater stealthy missile guided destroyers combined with traitional attack submarine function. There is very little need for Zumwalt type steath destroyers.
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@The_Resistance_1961 Collins's silent run of 4 knots or Japanese AIP's silent run of 6.5 knots would be unable to escort surface ships such as merchant ship's 20 knots speed.
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@The_Resistance_1961 FYI, Australia's coastline is approximately 34,000 kilometers. Stop thinking about European countries' small coastlines for Australia.
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@The_Resistance_1961 Note that my "20 knots to 30 knots speed" statement covers both merchant and military surface ships.
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@Runaway Puppet Bullshit. China blocked Australia's and New Zealand's marine park proposals in Antarctica. It is the eighth year the proposal has been knocked back, with China and Russia voting the proposal down on previous occasions. This caused Australia to enlist help from the EU while New Zealand enlist help from the US.
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@Runaway Puppet Let's not forget ANSTO centrifuge enrichment technology was defunded by Bob Hawke / Paul Keating's Labor government in the mid-1980s. Paul Keating created the weak-toothpick capability. Let's not forget Australian aircraft carrier was sold to China by Bob Hawke / Paul Keating's Labor government in the mid-1980s. Let's not forget former Prime Minister Paul Keating has for a long time been on the International Advisory Board of the China Development Bank. Let's not forget former Prime Minister Paul Keating declared NSW centric Australia Day as Jan 26 which created social landmine.
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@Runaway Puppet The businesses are 1. Country Garden, a totally owned subsidiary of Country Garden Holdings, one of China’s largest property developers. 2. Risland, Risland Holdings is a Hong Kong-based multinational real estate conglomerate Employees of Greenland Australia, a subsidiary of the Chinese government-backed global property giant Greenland Group, were instructed to put their normal work on hold and source bulk supplies of essential medical items to ship back to China. CCP sleepers directly interfered with AU medical supplies during 1st wave COVID-19 outbreak.
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@Runaway Puppet Fact: Australia's exports outside of China (e.g. JP+SK+India+US+NZ+ Vietnam+etc, 69%) exceeds China (~31%).
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@Runaway Puppet The US doesn't have territorial disputes while China has territorial disputes. The Ten Great Campaigns (Chinese: 十全武功; pinyin: Shíquán Wǔgōng) were a series of military campaigns launched by the Qing dynasty of China in the mid–late 18th century during the reign of the Qianlong Emperor (r. 1735–1796). They included three to enlarge the area of Qing control in Inner Asia: two against the Dzungars (1755–1757) and the "pacification" of Xinjiang (1758–1759). The other seven campaigns were more in the nature of police actions on frontiers already established: two wars to suppress the Gyalrong of Jinchuan, Sichuan, another to suppress the Taiwanese Aboriginals (1787–88), and four expeditions abroad against the Burmese (1765–1769), the Vietnamese (1788–1789), and the Gurkhas on the border between Tibet and Nepal (1790–1792), with the last counting as two. President Xi's argument is based on historical Imperial China's Ten Great Campaigns. Territorial disputes around Xi's China are based on Imperial China's Ten Great Campaigns. During the 4th Sino-Burmese Wars starting in 1768, Imperial China invaded the Kingdom of Burma. Burma hired European musketeers and gunners, hence Burma allied itself with the rising French Empire against Imperial China's invasion. Imperial China is an imperialist power that led to engagement with other powers. There's nothing new under the sun.
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@peterhess6039 Employees of Greenland Australia, a subsidiary of the Chinese government-backed global property giant Greenland Group, were instructed to put their normal work on hold and source bulk supplies of essential medical items to ship back to China. CCP sleepers directly interfered with AU medical supplies during 1st wave COVID-19 outbreak.
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@Runaway Puppet At the lowest point in the Philippines and the US relationship, the Philippines lost territory to China. Feelings are useless without firepower to back them i.e. to quote a certain Chinese game, "Fantasy can only survive with an underlying reality". China's action on Mischief Reef started around 1995, shortly after the US navy left Clark airbase in Subic.
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@Runaway Puppet The Chile example, USSR has supported its Cuban proxy that in turn supported Marxist Salvador Allende. You're a hypocrite. Marxist Salvador Allende clashed with the right-wing parties that controlled Congress and with the judiciary. On 11 September 1973, the military moved to oust Allende in a coup d'état. Marxist Salvador Allende's presidential branch effectively declared war on the judiciary and right-wing majority governed Congress branches. During the 1970 Chilean presidential election, both the United States and the Soviet Union poured money into this election through their intelligence agencies and other sources. 💰KGB money was more precisely targeted. Allende made a personal request for Soviet money through his personal contact, KGB officer Svyatoslav Kuznetsov, who urgently came to Chile from Mexico City to help Allende. The original allocation of money for these elections through the KGB was $400,000, and an additional personal subsidy of $50,000 directly to Allende.[8] It is believed that help from KGB was a decisive factor, because Allende won by a narrow margin of 39,000 votes of a total of the 3 million cast. After the elections, the KGB director Yuri Andropov obtained permission for additional money and other resources from the Central Committee of the CPSU to ensure Allende victory in Congress. In his request on 24 October, he stated that KGB "will carry out measures designed to promote the consolidation of Allende's victory and his election to the post of President of the country". --------------- In your argument's summary, the USSR-supported regime change intervention is okay while the US intervention is bad. Your argument is hypocritical. USSR's proxy attempted to remove Chile's check-and-balance Congress system. USSR's proxy attempted to concentrate political power into a single entity (individual and political party).
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@Runaway Puppet China has established foreign police stations across the world that are told to be closed down by foreign governments. China's "little green men" have inferred in medical supplies in Australia during 1st wave of COVID-19. China has engaged in territorial disputes based on Imperial China's Ten Great Campaigns (Chinese: 十全武功; pinyin: Shíquán Wǔgōng). The Ten Great Campaigns (Chinese: 十全武功; pinyin: Shíquán Wǔgōng) were a series of military campaigns launched by the Qing dynasty of China in the mid–late 18th century during the reign of the Qianlong Emperor (r. 1735–1796). They included three to enlarge the area of Qing control in Inner Asia: two against the Dzungars (1755–1757) and the "pacification" of Xinjiang (1758–1759). The other seven campaigns were more in the nature of police actions on frontiers already established: two wars to suppress the Gyalrong of Jinchuan, Sichuan, another to suppress the Taiwanese Aboriginals (1787–88), and four expeditions abroad against the Burmese (1765–1769), the Vietnamese (1788–1789), and the Gurkhas on the border between Tibet and Nepal (1790–1792), with the last counting as two. President Xi's argument is based on historical Imperial China's Ten Great Campaigns (Chinese: 十全武功; pinyin: Shíquán Wǔgōng). Xi's China has a territorial dispute with Vietnam. Xi's China has a territorial dispute with Taiwan. Xi's China has a territorial dispute with India (near Tibet and Nepal). Xi's China has a territorial dispute with the Philippines. Xi's China has a territorial dispute with Japan. This old world existed before the US became a superpower. China and Russia think that communism clean slate of their imperialist colonial past.
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@Runaway Puppet Both China and Russia are the two surviving "old world" imperial empires that largely preserved their imperial land territories. China and Russia think that communism clean slate of their imperialist colonial past. China's action on Mischief Reef started around 1995, shortly after the US navy left Clark airbase in Subic.
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Let's not forget ANSTO centrifuge enrichment technology was defunded by Bob Hawke / Paul Keating's Labor government in the mid-1980s. Paul Keating created the weak-toothpick capability.
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Let's not forget ANSTO centrifuge enrichment technology was defunded by Bob Hawke / Paul Keating's Labor government in the mid-1980s. Paul Keating created the weak-toothpick capability. A nation that prefers disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one.
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China blocked Australia's and New Zealand's marine park proposal in Antarctica. It is the eighth year the proposal has been knocked back, with China and Russia voting the proposal down on previous occasions. This caused Australia to enlist help from the EU while New Zealand enlist help from the US.
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China doesn't support the status quo. The US has no territorial issues with other countries. China has territorial issues with other countries.
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Let's not forget ANSTO centrifuge enrichment technology was defunded by Bob Hawke / Paul Keating's Labor government in the mid-1980s. Paul Keating created the weak-toothpick capability. Let's not forget Australian aircraft carrier was sold to China by Bob Hawke / Paul Keating's Labor government in the mid-1980s. Let's not forget former Prime Minister Paul Keating has for a long time been on the International Advisory Board of the China Development Bank. Let's not forget former Prime Minister Paul Keating declared NSW-centric Australia Day as Jan 26 which created a social landmine.
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China blocked Australia's and New Zealand's marine park proposals in Antarctica. It is the eighth year the proposal has been knocked back, with China and Russia voting the proposal down on previous occasions. This caused Australia to enlist help from the EU while New Zealand enlist help from the US.
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Let's not forget ANSTO centrifuge enrichment technology was defunded by Bob Hawke / Paul Keating's Labor government in the mid-1980s. Let's not forget Australian aircraft carrier was sold to China by Bob Hawke / Paul Keating's Labor government in the mid-1980s. Let's not forget former Prime Minister Paul Keating has for a long time been on the International Advisory Board of the China Development Bank.
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China blocked Australia's and New Zealand's marine park proposal in Antarctica. It is the eighth year the proposal has been knocked back, with China and Russia voting the proposal down on previous occasions. This caused Australia to enlist help from the EU while New Zealand enlist help from the US.
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Employees of Greenland Australia, a subsidiary of the Chinese government-backed global property giant Greenland Group, were instructed to put their normal work on hold and source bulk supplies of essential medical items to ship back to China. CCP sleepers directly interfered with AU medical supplies during 1st wave COVID-19 outbreak.
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China blocked Australia's and New Zealand's marine park proposal in Antarctica. It is the eighth year the proposal has been knocked back, with China and Russia voting the proposal down on previous occasions. This caused Australia to enlist help from the EU while New Zealand enlist help from the US.
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@joey3291 Both Australian and Japanese entities can buy each other's land. Australian entities can't buy land in China.
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@Yarhnam For establishing a marine park. China went against Australia and New Zealand which in turn caused the enlistment of EU and US respectively. This is an example why smaller countries enlist larger powers against another larger powers. It proves China is not a friend of Australia. Words are cheap when it comes from China.
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@Yarhnam >so you think that australian words are worth to listen? 1. Don't put words in my mouth. 2. There's self-interest and common interest i.e. when self-interest is in sync with many other self-interests. 3. It's in China's interest to make Australia's military to be weak with just heavy police force level capability. Fact: At the lowest point in the Philippines and the US relationship, the Philippines lost territory to China. Feelings are useless without firepower to back them i.e. to quote a certain Chinese game, "Fantasy can only survive with an underlying reality". China's action on Mischief Reef started around 1995, shortly after the US navy left Clark airbase in Subic.
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>China has no reason to invade Australia That's bulldust. China has attempted to surround Australia via the secondary island chain.
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@Liboch That's bulldust.
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@qcchen464 Japan to succeed the USA is a false narrative since it's NOT rich in raw resources, has a smaller population size, Japan failed semiconductors, OS/middleware software, digital music, and the electric vehicle revolution. USD's monetary union actually has a larger population size when compared to the Eurozone. The Eurozone is not the only zone that has a monetary union.
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@qcchen464 Henry Kissinger is unelected, was born in Germany, and being Jew is not get out of jail card.
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@peterbluesman >where is this second Island chain China's attempts have been countered with counter-threats.
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That's over 30 to 50 years.
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Feelings are useless without firepower to back them.
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Employees of Greenland Australia, a subsidiary of the Chinese government-backed global property giant Greenland Group, were instructed to put their normal work on hold and source bulk supplies of essential medical items to ship back to China. CCP sleepers directly interfered with AU medical supplies during 1st wave COVID-19 outbreak.
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China blocked Australia's and New Zealand's marine park proposals in Antarctica. It is the eighth year the proposal has been knocked back, with China and Russia voting the proposal down on previous occasions. This caused Australia to enlist help from the EU while New Zealand enlist help from the US.
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XI's China has modern-day territorial disputes based on Imperial China's Ten Great Campaigns. The Ten Great Campaigns (Chinese: 十全武功; pinyin: Shíquán Wǔgōng) were a series of military campaigns launched by the Qing dynasty of China in the mid–late 18th century during the reign of the Qianlong Emperor (r. 1735–1796). They included three to enlarge the area of Qing control in Inner Asia: two against the Dzungars (1755–1757) and the "pacification" of Xinjiang (1758–1759). The other seven campaigns were more in the nature of police actions on frontiers already established: two wars to suppress the Gyalrong of Jinchuan, Sichuan, another to suppress the Taiwanese Aboriginals (1787–88), and four expeditions abroad against the Burmese (1765–1769), the Vietnamese (1788–1789), and the Gurkhas on the border between Tibet and Nepal (1790–1792), with the last counting as two. President Xi's argument is based on historical Imperial China's Ten Great Campaigns. Territorial disputes around Xi's China are based on Imperial China's Ten Great Campaigns. During the 4th Sino-Burmese Wars starting in 1768, Imperial China invaded the Kingdom of Burma. Burma hired European musketeers and gunners, hence Burma allied itself with the rising French Empire against Imperial China's invasion. Imperial China is an imperialist power that led to engagement with other powers.
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That's China e.g. University of Queensland's debacle.
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@marcomongke3116 The Chile example, USSR has supported its Cuban proxy that in turn supported Marxist Salvador Allende. You're a hypocrite. Marxist Salvador Allende clashed with the right-wing parties that controlled Congress and with the judiciary. On 11 September 1973, the military moved to oust Allende in a coup d'état. Marxist Salvador Allende's presidential branch effectively declared war on the judiciary and right-wing majority governed Congress branches. During the 1970 Chilean presidential election, both the United States and the Soviet Union poured money into this election through their intelligence agencies and other sources. 💰KGB money was more precisely targeted. Allende made a personal request for Soviet money through his personal contact, KGB officer Svyatoslav Kuznetsov, who urgently came to Chile from Mexico City to help Allende. The original allocation of money for these elections through the KGB was $400,000, and an additional personal subsidy of $50,000 directly to Allende.[8] It is believed that help from KGB was a decisive factor, because Allende won by a narrow margin of 39,000 votes of a total of the 3 million cast. After the elections, the KGB director Yuri Andropov obtained permission for additional money and other resources from the Central Committee of the CPSU to ensure Allende victory in Congress. In his request on 24 October, he stated that KGB "will carry out measures designed to promote the consolidation of Allende's victory and his election to the post of President of the country". --------------- In your argument's summary, the USSR-supported regime change intervention is okay while the US intervention is bad. Your argument is hypocritical. USSR's proxy attempted to remove Chile's check-and-balance Congress system. USSR's proxy attempted to concentrate political power into a single entity (individual and political party). The US has no problems with the Swedish-style nanny market led-socialism that is practiced in the CANZUK and Nordic groups.
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@marcomongke3116 Employees of Greenland Australia, a subsidiary of the Chinese government-backed global property giant Greenland Group, were instructed to put their normal work on hold and source bulk supplies of essential medical items to ship back to China. CCP sleepers directly interfered with AU medical supplies during 1st wave COVID-19 outbreak.
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@marcomongke3116 China blocked Australia's and New Zealand's marine park proposal in Antarctica. It is the eighth year the proposal has been knocked back, with China and Russia voting the proposal down on previous occasions. This caused Australia to enlist help from the EU while New Zealand enlist help from the US.
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@ronaldronz4599 $380 billion is over 30 to 50 years.
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XI's China has modern-day territorial disputes based on Imperial China's Ten Great Campaigns. The Ten Great Campaigns (Chinese: 十全武功; pinyin: Shíquán Wǔgōng) were a series of military campaigns launched by the Qing dynasty of China in the mid–late 18th century during the reign of the Qianlong Emperor (r. 1735–1796). They included three to enlarge the area of Qing control in Inner Asia: two against the Dzungars (1755–1757) and the "pacification" of Xinjiang (1758–1759). The other seven campaigns were more in the nature of police actions on frontiers already established: two wars to suppress the Gyalrong of Jinchuan, Sichuan, another to suppress the Taiwanese Aboriginals (1787–88), and four expeditions abroad against the Burmese (1765–1769), the Vietnamese (1788–1789), and the Gurkhas on the border between Tibet and Nepal (1790–1792), with the last counting as two. President Xi's argument is based on historical Imperial China's Ten Great Campaigns. Territorial disputes around Xi's China are based on Imperial China's Ten Great Campaigns. During the 4th Sino-Burmese Wars starting in 1768, Imperial China invaded the Kingdom of Burma. Burma hired European musketeers and gunners, hence Burma allied itself with the rising French Empire against Imperial China's invasion. Imperial China is an imperialist power that led to engagement with other powers.
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Employees of Greenland Australia, a subsidiary of the Chinese government-backed global property giant Greenland Group, were instructed to put their normal work on hold and source bulk supplies of essential medical items to ship back to China. CCP sleepers directly interfered with AU medical supplies during 1st wave COVID-19 outbreak.
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China blocked Australia's and New Zealand's marine park proposal in Antarctica. It is the eighth year the proposal has been knocked back, with China and Russia voting the proposal down on previous occasions. This caused Australia to enlist help from the EU while New Zealand enlist help from the US.
1
Employees of Greenland Australia, a subsidiary of the Chinese government-backed global property giant Greenland Group, were instructed to put their normal work on hold and source bulk supplies of essential medical items to ship back to China. CCP sleepers directly interfered with AU medical supplies during 1st wave COVID-19 outbreak.
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The Chile example, USSR has supported its Cuban proxy that in turn supported Marxist Salvador Allende. You're a hypocrite. Marxist Salvador Allende clashed with the right-wing parties that controlled Congress and with the judiciary. On 11 September 1973, the military moved to oust Allende in a coup d'état. Marxist Salvador Allende's presidential branch effectively declared war on the judiciary and right-wing majority governed Congress branches. During the 1970 Chilean presidential election, both the United States and the Soviet Union poured money into this election through their intelligence agencies and other sources. 💰KGB money was more precisely targeted. Allende made a personal request for Soviet money through his personal contact, KGB officer Svyatoslav Kuznetsov, who urgently came to Chile from Mexico City to help Allende. The original allocation of money for these elections through the KGB was $400,000, and an additional personal subsidy of $50,000 directly to Allende.[8] It is believed that help from KGB was a decisive factor, because Allende won by a narrow margin of 39,000 votes of a total of the 3 million cast. After the elections, the KGB director Yuri Andropov obtained permission for additional money and other resources from the Central Committee of the CPSU to ensure Allende victory in Congress. In his request on 24 October, he stated that KGB "will carry out measures designed to promote the consolidation of Allende's victory and his election to the post of President of the country". --------------- In your argument's summary, the USSR-supported regime change intervention is okay while the US intervention is bad. Your argument is hypocritical. USSR's proxy attempted to remove Chile's check-and-balance Congress system. USSR's proxy attempted to concentrate political power into a single entity (individual and political party).
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XI's China has modern-day territorial disputes based on Imperial China's Ten Great Campaigns. The Ten Great Campaigns (Chinese: 十全武功; pinyin: Shíquán Wǔgōng) were a series of military campaigns launched by the Qing dynasty of China in the mid–late 18th century during the reign of the Qianlong Emperor (r. 1735–1796). They included three to enlarge the area of Qing control in Inner Asia: two against the Dzungars (1755–1757) and the "pacification" of Xinjiang (1758–1759). The other seven campaigns were more in the nature of police actions on frontiers already established: two wars to suppress the Gyalrong of Jinchuan, Sichuan, another to suppress the Taiwanese Aboriginals (1787–88), and four expeditions abroad against the Burmese (1765–1769), the Vietnamese (1788–1789), and the Gurkhas on the border between Tibet and Nepal (1790–1792), with the last counting as two. President Xi's argument is based on historical Imperial China's Ten Great Campaigns. Territorial disputes around Xi's China are based on Imperial China's Ten Great Campaigns. During the 4th Sino-Burmese Wars starting in 1768, Imperial China invaded the Kingdom of Burma. Burma hired European musketeers and gunners, hence Burma allied itself with the rising French Empire against Imperial China's invasion. Imperial China is an imperialist power that led to engagement with other powers.
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Let's not forget ANSTO centrifuge enrichment technology was defunded by Bob Hawke / Paul Keating's Labor government in the mid-1980s. Let's not forget Australian aircraft carrier was sold to China by Bob Hawke / Paul Keating's Labor government in the mid-1980s. Let's not forget former Prime Minister Paul Keating has for a long time been on the International Advisory Board of the China Development Bank.
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