Comments by "Valen Ron" (@valenrn8657) on "Real Engineering"
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I'll bite
Thrust/Weight ratios
http://www.skyflightsupport.com/tools/jet-a-1-conversion-chart.html
Rafale's 1,882 km combat radius needs "two CFTs (2,300 L), three tanks (5,700 L)" = 21,700 L + internal fuel
Rafale's *1,882 km combat radius needs 27628 L of fuel.
Rafale's Internal fuel combat radius estimate
(5928 L / 27628 L) x 1,882 km = 403.81 Km
Rafale C
Empty Weight: 21,720 lbs
Internal Fuel: 10,400 lbs (5928 L, A-1 Jet fuel conversion ) with 403.81 Km combat radius.
Total weight: 32120 lbs
Thrust: 33720 lbf
Thrust/Weight: 1.05 : 1
F-35A
Empty Weight: 28,999 lbs
Internal Fuel: 5308.93 lbs with 403.81 Km combat radius. F-35A has 1407 Km combat radius at max fuel load (18,498 lb, 8,390 kg).
Total weight: 34307.93 lbs
Thrust/Weight: 1.25 : 1
F-35A has a superior Thrust/Weight ratio. Rafale has crappy engines.
I'm game for another Rafale vs F-35A Block 3F debate.
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@randomgaming8616 When stealth is not required for F-35A
http://nettsteder.regjeringen.no/kampfly/2015/11/20/a-fly-f-35-erfaringer-fra-den-forste-uka/
More F-16 vs F-35 from Norwegian pilot.
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Overall, flying the F-35 reminds me a bit of flying the F/A-18 Hornet, but with an important difference: It has been fitted with a turbo
https://www.reddit.com/r/F35Lightning/comments/8a66ta/out_of_the_shadows_rnlaf_experiences_with_the/
Out Of The Shadows: RNLAF experiences with the F-35A - Combat Aircraft Magazine May 2018
1. Dutch F-35 Block 3F, "F-35 sits somewhere in between the F-16 and F/A-18 when it comes to within visual range manoeuvring'".
2. Lightest empty weight F-16A MLU air-superiority model needs to be clean (no weapons, no external tanks) to make visual range dogfight interesting against combat loaded F-35A Block 3F.
3. Dutch has acknowledged early F-35 Block builds being beaten by F-16s with external fuel tanks which are NOT applicable for F-35A Block 3F build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3b-b762QRY
Super Hornet's high angle of attack with minimum turn radius advantage holding its own against F-15's high energy turn rate advantage dogfight example.
Major F-35A difference from Super Hornet is F-35A's superior acceleration and roll rates.
http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=5525&start=1335#wrapper
From GTA4's post with OEM numbers, F-35A beating EuroFighter in acceleration.
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2009/07/i-flew-supersonic-barely-at-th/
F-35C has 300 degrees per second roll rate.
F-35A roll rate: 300 deg/sec. Video proof.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qceZALofOcg&feature=youtu.be&t=1m15s
http://theaviationist.com/2015/05/01/aileron-roll-in-t-346a/
According to most reports a Rafale features a maximum roll rate of 270 deg/s, the Eurofighter Typhoon is able of around 250 deg/s, the F/A-18E Super Hornet has a maximum roll rate of 120 deg/s whereas the F-16 can roll at 240 deg/s.
Original source (non-English)
http://suomenkuvalehti.fi/jutut/kotimaa/suomella-vahvat-ilmavoimat-mutta-kuinka-kauan/
Frisian Flag 2012 exercises in Holland, Finnish F-18Cs gets 100 kills and 6 loses against Eurofighter (Germany, UK), Polish new F-16 and older F-16 planes (Norway, Belgium) and Gripen (Swedish)
Finland's F-18C has 16:1 kill ratio over Germany/UK's Eurofighter, Poland's F-16C Block 52+ and Norway/Belgium's F-16A MLU and Sweden's Gripen.
F-16s and Eurocanards have an angle of attack capabilities less than 30 degrees.
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@stephenburrows4250 That's bullshit.
Why continue posting this nonsense, even Saab has agreed that F-35A is not too bad?
http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l327/encia/F35/F-35AfromSaab_zps6b92ab35.jpg
Original source (non-English)
http://suomenkuvalehti.fi/jutut/kotimaa/suomella-vahvat-ilmavoimat-mutta-kuinka-kauan/
Frisian Flag 2012 exercises in Holland, Finnish F-18Cs gets 100 kills and 6 loses against Eurofighter (Germany, UK), Polish new F-16 and older F-16 planes (Norway, Belgium) and Gripen (Swedish)
Finland's F-18C has 16:1 kill ratio over Germany/UK's Eurofighter, Poland's F-16C Block 52+ and Norway/Belgium's F-16A MLU and Sweden's Gripen.
http://nettsteder.regjeringen.no/kampfly/2015/11/20/a-fly-f-35-erfaringer-fra-den-forste-uka/
More F-16 vs F-35 from Norwegian pilot.
I quote
Overall, flying the F-35 reminds me a bit of flying the F/A-18 Hornet, but with an important difference: It has been fitted with a turbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3b-b762QRY
Super Hornet's high angle of attack with minimum turn radius advantage holding its own against F-15's high energy turn rate advantage dogfight example.
Replace Super Hornet with F-35A Block 3F with superior acceleration (beats EuroFIghter and Hornets) and superior roll rates.
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2009/07/i-flew-supersonic-barely-at-th/
F-35C has 300 degrees per second roll rate.
F-35A roll rate: 300 deg/sec. Video proof.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qceZALofOcg&feature=youtu.be&t=1m15s
http://theaviationist.com/2015/05/01/aileron-roll-in-t-346a/
According to most reports a Rafale features a maximum roll rate of 270 deg/s, the Eurofighter Typhoon is able of around 250 deg/s, the F/A-18E Super Hornet has a maximum roll rate of 120 deg/s whereas the F-16 can roll at 240 deg/s.
F-35A Block 3F has 9G with 50 degrees angle of attack.
For Rafale
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/flight-test-dassault-rafale-rampant-rafale-334383/
The DFCS is a "g" demand system with +9.0g/29° angle of attack (AoA) limit in air-to-air mode and +5.5g/20° AoA limit in both of the two air-to-ground/heavy stores modes (ST1 and ST2) to cater for forward or aft centre of gravity
For F-35A, http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=15013&start=210
Article copied beyond Aviation Week paywall.
So it got stuck at 60 or 70 deg. alpha, and it was as happy as could be
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1474667015332274?via%3Dihub
The JAS 39 Gripen is a 26 degree angle of attack aircraft for the light external store configurations and 20 degrees for the most heavy external store configurations. The variation of angle of attack with roll stick position is used to give roll command priority, when the pilot demands roll rate.
I'll debate you.
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