Comments by "Narwhal" (@narwhal5340) on "The China Project" channel.

@ispin4u295 Actually, China is pretty welcoming to start ups hoping to develop their technology and business ideas, Shenzhen is seen as the world's capital in hardware and the CCP seems to be developing other cities into giants in various other industries. China is just like any other country, with politicians imposing policies they feel would help their country the most. Although their party is called the CCP, their policies have been getting more capitalist, where companies there are not owned by the state but are monitored by them to protect the country's interests. The CCP remains more authoritarian in nature and majority of the Chinese accept it mainly because of the West. The Chinese have been seeing an increase in their quality of life while seeing the Western countries unable to effectively deal with issues due to internal conflicts. Examples include the US government shutdown, Brexit and of course refugees in Europe.
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@Drownedinblood Yeah but the riots seem to be getting worse recently with more and more daring actions being taken like those two who were imprisoned in the airport. I do hope that the situation in HK is resolved soon as the people suffering are the innocent HKers who are just trying to live their lives peacefully amidst the chaos. If the PLA are gonna go in without bloodshed, hopefully it would be soon and HK can go back normal after that. Honestly the extradition bill could be a good thing(I'm assuming it will be put into effect after the PLA acts) as it can open the doors for investigation into all the criminal asylum seekers from all around world who have gathered into HK. I doubt China would use the bill clean up their political dissidents in HK anyways(too public).
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@Drownedinblood Except HK is but a small part of China that it can honestly do without(~2.5% of GDP) and politics there don't affect the mainland much. Also the only threat China really poses is to the US's position as the biggest economy, other than that China's a great place to find labour which is why most companies produce their goods there.
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@nikitavarsava8350 Do you know how much HK relies on China? It's known as the gateway to China many people mistake this as China needing HK for trade and investment, but in fact many investors are going into cities like Shenzhen, HK just happens to be the first point of entry into trade that had been developed, but has become less and less relevant as the years go by and more of China is developed.
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@johnluddell5543 The initial demand was that the bill was withdrawn and it was declared dead. Then these "protesters" wanted the withdrawal to be written into law, have Carrie Lam resign and look into the police actions to quell the riots, clearly desiring punishment for the policemen who were just doing their job while trying to protect themselves. The Chinese have a saying that translates to gain an inch, push for a mile, it was clear to the government that if they continued to give in, they would have been seen as a weak government to the world and to their people and the protesters demands may not have ended there. So other than the fact that they would have given in to the demands of the minority views of HKers, they would alienate the silent majority in HK who have recently started to speak up for the police actions and against these protesters. Before you state that it's just a small number coming out, I would like to say that normal people have jobs and can hardly find the time to participate in these events.
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The protestors have been chucking bricks and molotovs at the police, causing many injuries among the policemen. There's even one policeman who's badly disfigured because these "protestors" set him on fire. Much of the media online states that the police have riot shields and stuff but because the scale of these riots is so large it is very difficult for them to even ensure their own safety. All the injuries suffered by protesters were because they were strongly resisting arrest. The HK police have already been very restrained in their handling of these riots.
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@Drownedinblood I understand your point but I was just saying that the negative portrayal China by the US is basically a last ditch effort to cause issues to China. China would probably not cut off HK, but my message is that even if they do, it would not affect China too much. Also the issue may likely be resolved soon, the PLA's entry into HK is more or less imminent, but I think it is likely they will not kill anyone. Their army is large enough to handle the most violent rioters and when the show that China is not the monster the West paints it as, anti-Chinese sentiment would decrease greatly, especially because right now all eyes are on the PLA.
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@Drownedinblood True it does show desperation, but it's also kind of off-putting to anyone who may be thinking of supporting them. October?
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@Drownedinblood Oh I see, didn't think about that, my uni started in early August so I had thought they were skipping classes or something and didn't check on that. Yeah violence and the like really isn't the best way to get your message across. I do feel that these students are kind of venting at the government and blaming the mainlanders because of the bad prospects they have in HK.
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@Drownedinblood Yeah they are definitely prejudiced against mainlanders and that's mostly due to environmental factors and the portrayal of mainlanders by the media. It is kind of weird that they don't riot in those neighbourhoods as they are quite aware of the wealth disparity present there. Either those neighbourhoods are already empty or they are too caught up in wanting to challenge the CCP and their government.
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@nikitavarsava8350 Okay first of all Singapore was never part of China, also Taiwan's status is still largely in dispute ands Tibet and Uighurs are large regions that the CCP will never give up on. Finally, challenges that HKers face are not really due to the CCP, the huge wealth gap in HK was present and has been developing long before the CCP started to intervene in HK
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@notepears3878 And I'm guessing you're not descended from any mainlanders then??
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@notepears3878 I am just making a point that most people in HK are descended from the mainland. So you trying to separate mainlanders that recently came to HK from those descended from them in your statement is inherently biased and I find it amusing that you don't the irony in you calling me out for racism when you are in fact doing the same.
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@brennencox516 Can I just say while the use of a VPN is needed to access mainstream media, virtually everyone in China uses VPNs. Just wanted to put that out there. Can't deny that the people in the video may be just saying whatever Xi wants, but let's break down what was said. 1:35 the guy is saying he feels that any law needs consideration so he supports the protesters' right to speak up but he supports the extradition bill to punish corrupt officials hiding in HK. Also it is not just political dissidents of Xi, HK is widely known to be a great asylum for many criminals due to a lack of proper extradition clauses. 4:15 is the result of listen to state media and believing it over Western media so people are kind of allowed to make their judgements on what they believe in. Finally,yes he's talking about it, but so is the rest of the world so what's your point.
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@brennencox516 On criminals: https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/11/gangsters-paradise/ Article's main point is on money laundering of Chinese criminals not specifically politicians but who else has money to launder in China. Extradition is an ego game between countries. Let's say country A wants to prosecute someone who commited a crime in country B, it needs to set up extradition with B in order to do so. But B may want to prosecute the person on its own laws so an extradition bill may not be set up. While the world did condemn the CCP's actions, in the view of the Chinese people, what their government did managed to quell civil unrest. What China did to Muslims there is in no way morally defensible, but the people there were calling for a separation from China which forced the CCP to take action. Yes I know all media is state controlled and drives the CCP's agenda, you also have to understand that every media outlet has an agenda, I'm assuming you're from the UK/US, so you can understand when looking at news reports from different sources like CNN and FOX or FT and BBC reporting on certain things differently. The important thing to note is that Chinese has access to news all around the world through VPNs and can make their own judgements on what is fact.
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Sorry missed out your comment on VPNs earlier, here you go https://www.zdnet.com/article/vpns-can-still-be-used-in-china-despite-march-31-ban/#targetText=The%20firm's%20survey%20of%20Chinese,means%20100%20million%20regular%20users.
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