Comments by "c. j. macq" (@cjmacq-vg8um) on "Richard Wolff counters libertarian arguments against socialism" video.

libertarianism STILL means socialism throughout the world - EXCEPT in the U. S. where the capitalists, like ayn rand, hijacked the word after wwll and twisted its meaning for their own corrupt purposes.
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... i've been hearing that fire-hosed lie often in the last few years. the fascists have been working overtime redefining and misrepresenting socialism as fascist. by doing so fascists are misrepresenting themselves. trying to rebrand themselves by hiding their true agenda. these fascists are the lowest of the low. they're willing to commit ANY fraud, ANY scam to mislead the public and hide their true intent. THIS LYING HAS TO STOP! if you called hitler a socialist to his face he'd probably have you shot. he'd have you arrested for sure. the fascist, nazi brownshirts attacked the socialists in the streets, it was socialists, along with the liberals and journalists that the Nazi's first rounded up and sent to concentration camps. the reality is socialism is to democracy what capitalism is to fascism. the one can't exist without the other. (btw, stalin and mao weren't socialists either.)
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libertarianism STILL means socialism throughout the world - EXCEPT in the U. S. where the capitalists, like ayn rand, hijacked the word after wwll and twisted its meaning for their own corrupt purposes. ALL socialism is libertarian and democratic. there's no such thing as authoritarian socialism. which means stalin and mao were NEVER socialists. the philosophy of equalism, which I founded, says it like this - socialism is economic democracy and democracy is political socialism. capitalism is economic fascism and fascism is political capitalism.
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my god, our fascist oppressors have done a hum-dinger of a job DIVIDING US and keeping us divided. one way they do this is by convincing us of different definitions of the same words. how can we EVER UNITE if we can't even agree upon definitions of words? answer: WE CAN'T! and that's what the fascists want! they want us confused and fighting each other RATHER than fighting them. right now there are 4 types of fascists. 1) those who publically admire and praise hitler and mussolini. (while denouncing stalin and mao, although they were ALL very much alike.) 2) those who denounce hitler, mussolini and the WORD fascism while embracing and pursuing all their tactics and goals. 3) then there's those who're rebranding fascism as FREEDOM, as something that its not. they're rebranding it as the alternative to authoritarianism. these people are simply lying. they're misrepresenting their true intent. they're using fraud to misrepresent fascism in order to establish an authoritarian fascist state. 4) then there are those on left who refuse to accept the fact that they're "leadership" are using fascist concepts and tactics, themselves, to accomplish their political agendas. and that many of their goals are, in fact, NOW, fascist in nature. words actually HAVE definitions. but these days, thanks to the internet, if definitions or reality interfere with your delusions or your skewed and corrupted world view - the definitions and reality are discarded in favor of the delusions and lies. and this is what our oppressors want. its taken 6000 years of elitist propaganda but the elite have FINALLY succeeded in turning humanity into a mindless, unreasoning and compliant slave species.
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my god, our fascist oppressors have done a hum-dinger of a job DIVIDING US and keeping us divided. one way they do this is by convincing us of different definitions of the same words. how can we EVER UNITE if we can't even agree upon definitions of words? answer: WE CAN'T! and that's what the fascists want! they want us confused and fighting each other RATHER than fighting them. right now there are 4 types of fascists. 1) those who publicly admire and praise hitler and mussolini. (while denouncing stalin and mao, although they were ALL very much alike.) 2) those who denounce hitler, mussolini and the WORD fascism while embracing and pursuing all their tactics and goals. 3) then there's those who're rebranding fascism as FREEDOM, as something that its not. they're rebranding it as the alternative to authoritarianism. these people are simply lying. they're misrepresenting their true intent. they're using fraud to misrepresent fascism in order to establish an authoritarian fascist state. 4) then there are those on left who refuse to accept the fact that they're "leadership" are using fascist concepts and tactics, themselves, to accomplish their political agendas. and that many of their goals are, in fact, NOW, fascist in nature. words actually HAVE definitions. but these days, thanks to the internet, if definitions or reality interfere with your delusions or your skewed and corrupted world view - the definitions and reality are discarded in favor of the delusions and lies. and this is what our oppressors want. its taken 6000 years of elitist propaganda but the elite have FINALLY succeeded in turning humanity into a mindless, unreasoning and compliant slave species.
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my god, our fascist oppressors have done a hum-dinger of a job DIVIDING US and keeping us divided. one way they do this is by convincing us of different definitions of the same words. how can we EVER UNITE if we can't even agree upon definitions of words? answer: WE CAN'T! and that's what the fascists want! they want us confused and fighting each other RATHER than fighting them. right now there are 4 types of fascists. 1) those who publically admire and praise hitler and mussolini. (while denouncing stalin and mao, although they were ALL very much alike.) 2) those who denounce hitler, mussolini and the WORD fascism while embracing and pursuing all their tactics and goals. 3) then there's those who're rebranding fascism as FREEDOM, as something that its not. they're rebranding it as the alternative to authoritarianism. these people are simply lying. they're misrepresenting their true intent. they're using fraud to misrepresent fascism in order to establish an authoritarian fascist state. 4) then there are those on left who refuse to accept the fact that they're "leadership" are using fascist concepts and tactics, themselves, to accomplish their political agendas. and that many of their goals are, in fact, NOW, fascist in nature. words actually HAVE definitions. but these days, thanks to the internet, if definitions or reality interfere with your delusions or your skewed and corrupted world view - the definitions and reality are discarded in favor of the delusions and lies. and this is what our oppressors want. its taken 6000 years of elitist propaganda but the elite have FINALLY succeeded in turning humanity into a mindless, unreasoning and compliant slave species.
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ALL socialism is libertarian and democratic. there's no such thing as authoritarian socialism. which means stalin and mao were NEVER socialists. the philosophy of equalism, which I founded, says it like this - socialism is economic democracy and democracy is political socialism. capitalism is economic fascism and fascism is political capitalism. its just that simple.
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@ExPwner ... nope, you damned fascist, i'm the one telling you the truth. as clearly explained and demonstrated in my comment. quit believing the lies of your slave masters!
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yes, the govt is "bad" because the elite have made it so. the elite have turned the govt into a fascist, authoritarian apparatus to protect their wealth and privilege. the rich publicly hate the govt but privately love it because THEY control it!
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my god, our fascist oppressors have done a hum-dinger of a job DIVIDING US and keeping us divided. one way they do this is by convincing us of different definitions of the same words. how can we EVER UNITE if we can't even agree upon definitions of words? answer: WE CAN'T! and that's what the fascists want! they want us confused and fighting each other RATHER than fighting them. right now there are 4 types of fascists. 1) those who publically admire and praise hitler and mussolini. (while denouncing stalin and mao, although they were ALL very much alike.) 2) those who denounce hitler, mussolini and the WORD fascism while embracing and pursuing all their tactics and goals. 3) then there's those who're rebranding fascism as FREEDOM, as something that its not. they're rebranding it as the alternative to authoritarianism. these people are simply lying. they're misrepresenting their true intent. they're using fraud to misrepresent fascism in order to establish an authoritarian fascist state. 4) then there are those on left who refuse to accept the fact that they're "leadership" are using fascist concepts and tactics, themselves, to accomplish their political agendas. and that many of their goals are, in fact, NOW, fascist in nature. words actually HAVE definitions. but these days, thanks to the internet, if definitions or reality interfere with your delusions or your skewed and corrupted world view - the definitions and reality are discarded in favor of the delusions and lies. and this is what our oppressors want. its taken 6000 years of elitist propaganda but the elite have FINALLY succeeded in turning humanity into a mindless, unreasoning and compliant slave species.
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@Peter Kropotkin ... in kind of a round about way, you just expressed the philosophy of equalism. the problem ISN'T govt or business. the problem is PEOPLE and a social system that incentivizes corruption through greed and the perpetual unfettered accumulation of wealth. you remove the incentives to be corrupt you remove the corruption. socialism and free-marketism, BOTH, remove that incentive. but capitalism encourages it and thrives on it. free-marketism and socialism were both introduced as alternatives to fascist, capitalist, elitist, authoritarian greed. but as long as the worst of humanity maintains their power over the world, nothing will end this 6000 year stranglehold the elite has had on all humanity.
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my god, our fascist oppressors have done a hum-dinger of a job DIVIDING US and keeping us divided. one way they do this is by convincing us of different definitions of the same words. how can we EVER UNITE if we can't even agree upon definitions of words? answer: WE CAN'T! and that's what the fascists want! they want us confused and fighting each other RATHER than fighting them. right now there are 4 types of fascists. 1) those who publically admire and praise hitler and mussolini. (while denouncing stalin and mao, although they were ALL very much alike.) 2) those who denounce hitler, mussolini and the WORD fascism while embracing and pursuing all their tactics and goals. 3) then there's those who're rebranding fascism as FREEDOM, as something that its not. they're rebranding it as the alternative to authoritarianism. these people are simply lying. they're misrepresenting their true intent. they're using fraud to misrepresent fascism in order to establish an authoritarian fascist state. 4) then there are those on left who refuse to accept the fact that they're "leadership" are using fascist concepts and tactics, themselves, to accomplish their political agendas. and that many of their goals are, in fact, NOW, fascist in nature. words actually HAVE definitions. but these days, thanks to the internet, if definitions or reality interfere with your delusions or your skewed and corrupted world view - the definitions and reality are discarded in favor of the delusions and lies. and this is what our oppressors want. its taken 6000 years of elitist propaganda but the elite have FINALLY succeeded in turning humanity into a mindless, unreasoning and compliant slave species.
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my god, our fascist oppressors have done a hum-dinger of a job DIVIDING US and keeping us divided. one way they do this is by convincing us of different definitions of the same words. how can we EVER UNITE if we can't even agree upon definitions of words? answer: WE CAN'T! and that's what the fascists want! they want us confused and fighting each other RATHER than fighting them. right now there are 4 types of fascists. 1) those who publically admire and praise hitler and mussolini. (while denouncing stalin and mao, although they were ALL very much alike.) 2) those who denounce hitler, mussolini and the WORD fascism while embracing and pursuing all their tactics and goals. 3) then there's those who're rebranding fascism as FREEDOM, as something that its not. they're rebranding it as the alternative to authoritarianism. these people are simply lying. they're misrepresenting their true intent. they're using fraud to misrepresent fascism in order to establish an authoritarian fascist state. 4) then there are those on left who refuse to accept the fact that they're "leadership" are using fascist concepts and tactics, themselves, to accomplish their political agendas. and that many of their goals are, in fact, NOW, fascist in nature. words actually HAVE definitions. but these days, thanks to the internet, if definitions or reality interfere with your delusions or your skewed and corrupted world view - the definitions and reality are discarded in favor of the delusions and lies. and this is what our oppressors want. its taken 6000 years of elitist propaganda but the elite have FINALLY succeeded in turning humanity into a mindless, unreasoning and compliant slave species.
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well said my friend. ALL socialism is libertarian and democratic. there's no such thing as authoritarian socialism. which means stalin and mao were NEVER socialists. the philosophy of equalism, which I founded, says it like this - socialism is economic democracy and democracy is political socialism. capitalism is economic fascism and fascism is political capitalism. capitalism is about competitive greed through slavery. socialism is about cooperative individualism. social contribution with equal, yet individualized reward for that contribution.
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@bradchristy8429 … no, a misinterpretation and misrepresentation of history has shown us this. the philosophy of equalism says - "the elite lie about socialism because they want us to FEAR what will FREE us from them." quit falling for the elitist lie! the elite has been ruling us, manipulating us, herding us and DIVIDING us for 1000's of years. its time to REJECT this insanity and do things right for once. and equalism is the ONLY philosophy that offers a REAL solution, a REAL way out of this mess the elite have made for us.
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@bradchristy8429 thanks for your completely worthless and unfounded opinion. thanks for perpetuating the very same lies our oligarchic slave owners have been telling us for 1000's of years. thanks for your lack of imagination, independent thought and integrity. and most of all, thanks for being a corporate shill, an elitist troll spewing misinformation on behalf of the corrupt plutocrats who are bent on keeping things just as they are; divided and miserable. good for you.
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@bradchristy8429 … I've just read through much of your dribble here on this thread and you state so many falsehoods I can't begin to respond to them all. so i'll comment on just 2. first; capitalism isn't about "competition." its about crushing competition, monopolization, privilege and accumulation of wealth and power and USING GOVT to protect that privilege, wealth and power. second; capitalism DIDN'T raise the standard of living. socialist demands did. the middle class was created through unionism, the 40 hour work week, minimum wage laws and other social programs designed to benefit society not just the elite. its a constant battle as the elite continue to threaten and dismantle these efforts thus since the reagan era elitist wealth has increased over 500% while wages have remained stagnant. the middle class is disappearing as levels of poverty and homelessness skyrocket. your arguments are just lies. the same lies the elite have been promulgating since the first city-states. I offer you reality but you choose century old falsehoods in support of the pro-elitist world view. i'd feel sorry for you if you weren't doing SO MUCH harm to our species and our planet. as it, people like you are such a danger to ALL humanity you don't deserve sympathy. you deserve disdain!.
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@bradchristy8429 … i don't care to read anymore of your falsehoods. you just need to be ashamed of spewing them. and you need to stop spewing them and regain what little integrity you have left. this conversation is over, sparky.
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@bradchristy8429 … man, you're a sore loser. don't go away mad, just go away. this conversation is over.
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@bradchristy8429 ... bombastic blowhards. you just can't admit defeat. this conversation is over.
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@bradchristy8429 this conversation is over.
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@bradchristy8429 … you may find human suffering funny. or you may find it funny that fascist, capitalist cartels are stealing democracy from humanity. but don't.
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my god, our fascist oppressors have done a hum-dinger of a job DIVIDING US and keeping us divided. one way they do this is by convincing us of different definitions of the same words. how can we EVER UNITE if we can't even agree upon definitions of words? answer: WE CAN'T! and that's what the fascists want! they want us confused and fighting each other RATHER than fighting them. right now there are 4 types of fascists. 1) those who publically admire and praise hitler and mussolini. (while denouncing stalin and mao, although they were ALL very much alike.) 2) those who denounce hitler, mussolini and the WORD fascism while embracing and pursuing all their tactics and goals. 3) then there's those who're rebranding fascism as FREEDOM, as something that its not. they're rebranding it as the alternative to authoritarianism. these people are simply lying. they're misrepresenting their true intent. they're using fraud to misrepresent fascism in order to establish an authoritarian fascist state. 4) then there are those on left who refuse to accept the fact that they're "leadership" are using fascist concepts and tactics, themselves, to accomplish their political agendas. and that many of their goals are, in fact, NOW, fascist in nature. words actually HAVE definitions. but these days, thanks to the internet, if definitions or reality interfere with your delusions or your skewed and corrupted world view - the definitions and reality are discarded in favor of the delusions and lies. and this is what our oppressors want. its taken 6000 years of elitist propaganda but the elite have FINALLY succeeded in turning humanity into a mindless, unreasoning and compliant slave species.
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my god, our fascist oppressors have done a hum-dinger of a job DIVIDING US and keeping us divided. one way they do this is by convincing us of different definitions of the same words. how can we EVER UNITE if we can't even agree upon definitions of words? answer: WE CAN'T! and that's what the fascists want! they want us confused and fighting each other RATHER than fighting them. right now there are 4 types of fascists. 1) those who publically admire and praise hitler and mussolini. (while denouncing stalin and mao, although they were ALL very much alike.) 2) those who denounce hitler, mussolini and the WORD fascism while embracing and pursuing all their tactics and goals. 3) then there's those who're rebranding fascism as FREEDOM, as something that its not. they're rebranding it as the alternative to authoritarianism. these people are simply lying. they're misrepresenting their true intent. they're using fraud to misrepresent fascism in order to establish an authoritarian fascist state. 4) then there are those on left who refuse to accept the fact that they're "leadership" are using fascist concepts and tactics, themselves, to accomplish their political agendas. and that many of their goals are, in fact, NOW, fascist in nature. words actually HAVE definitions. but these days, thanks to the internet, if definitions or reality interfere with your delusions or your skewed and corrupted world view - the definitions and reality are discarded in favor of the delusions and lies. and this is what our oppressors want. its taken 6000 years of elitist propaganda but the elite have FINALLY succeeded in turning humanity into a mindless, unreasoning and compliant slave species.
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my god, our fascist oppressors have done a hum-dinger of a job DIVIDING US and keeping us divided. one way they do this is by convincing us of different definitions of the same words. how can we EVER UNITE if we can't even agree upon definitions of words? answer: WE CAN'T! and that's what the fascists want! they want us confused and fighting each other RATHER than fighting them. right now there are 4 types of fascists. 1) those who publically admire and praise hitler and mussolini. (while denouncing stalin and mao, although they were ALL very much alike.) 2) those who denounce hitler, mussolini and the WORD fascism while embracing and pursuing all their tactics and goals. 3) then there's those who're rebranding fascism as FREEDOM, as something that its not. they're rebranding it as the alternative to authoritarianism. these people are simply lying. they're misrepresenting their true intent. they're using fraud to misrepresent fascism in order to establish an authoritarian fascist state. 4) then there are those on left who refuse to accept the fact that they're "leadership" are using fascist concepts and tactics, themselves, to accomplish their political agendas. and that many of their goals are, in fact, NOW, fascist in nature. words actually HAVE definitions. but these days, thanks to the internet, if definitions or reality interfere with your delusions or your skewed and corrupted world view - the definitions and reality are discarded in favor of the delusions and lies. and this is what our oppressors want. its taken 6000 years of elitist propaganda but the elite have FINALLY succeeded in turning humanity into a mindless, unreasoning and compliant slave species.
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@Peter Kropotkin ... no, there aren't fascist brands of socialism. just fascists who falsely claim to be socialist to gain popular support. then they betray their socialist promises. and, hitler NEVER claimed to be a socialist. EVERY society offers free fundamental education. globally, its considered a social responsibility to educate their citizens. and education can be used to indoctrinate the public and make them docile and compliant to their slave masters. but the nazi's didn't provide free medical care. you still had to pay your medical bills even under hitler. everyday, people still went to their private sector jobs and was paid by the private sector employers who still, often, got rich from govt contracts, labor exploitation and consumer fraud, just like in the u. s. and throughout the world today. it wasn't socialism by any stretch of the imagination. it was PURE capitalism. fascism is an elitist, authoritarian ideology. the very antithesis of socialism. hitler sought and received support from german industrialists. hell, henry ford even contributed to the nazi's. you telling me henry ford was a socialist?
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@Peter Kropotkin ... no, i don't decide that; reality does. For you to just decide socialism can be fascist is goofy and short sighted and self serving most likely.
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@Peter Kropotkin ... funny, i'm an anti-fascist anarchist, myself. thanks for calling a fellow anarchist a "goober." i think mayberry is in an uproar right now. you ask - "What exactly precludes a fascist from also wanting to distribute goods based on need?" its called a definition. words have definitions you know. anarchy won't change that. by definition, intent and practice, fascists believe in social dawinism; survival of the fittest. and fascists believe the rich are the fittest to rule. their wealth proves their superiority over the rest of us. with fascism, if you're poor, and need help, YOU ARE INFERIOR and thus undeserving of help. SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST! = survival of the richest. social darwinism in action. socialism REJECTS social darwinsim as the fascist BS that it is. ALL humans are deserving of equal rights, respect and dignity. that's, at least, one difference between the fundamental beliefs of fascists and equalist, social anarchists like myself.
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my god, our fascist oppressors have done a hum-dinger of a job DIVIDING US and keeping us divided. one way they do this is by convincing us of different definitions of the same words. how can we EVER UNITE if we can't even agree upon definitions of words? answer: WE CAN'T! and that's what the fascists want! they want us confused and fighting each other RATHER than fighting them. right now there are 4 types of fascists. 1) those who publically admire and praise hitler and mussolini. (while denouncing stalin and mao, although they were ALL very much alike.) 2) those who denounce hitler, mussolini and the WORD fascism while embracing and pursuing all their tactics and goals. 3) then there's those who're rebranding fascism as FREEDOM, as something that its not. they're rebranding it as the alternative to authoritarianism. these people are simply lying. they're misrepresenting their true intent. they're using fraud to misrepresent fascism in order to establish an authoritarian fascist state. 4) then there are those on left who refuse to accept the fact that they're "leadership" are using fascist concepts and tactics, themselves, to accomplish their political agendas. and that many of their goals are, in fact, NOW, fascist in nature. words actually HAVE definitions. but these days, thanks to the internet, if definitions or reality interfere with your delusions or your skewed and corrupted world view - the definitions and reality are discarded in favor of the delusions and lies. and this is what our oppressors want. its taken 6000 years of elitist propaganda but the elite have FINALLY succeeded in turning humanity into a mindless, unreasoning and compliant slave species.
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my god, our fascist oppressors have done a hum-dinger of a job DIVIDING US and keeping us divided. one way they do this is by convincing us of different definitions of the same words. how can we EVER UNITE if we can't even agree upon definitions of words? answer: WE CAN'T! and that's what the fascists want! they want us confused and fighting each other RATHER than fighting them. right now there are 4 types of fascists. 1) those who publically admire and praise hitler and mussolini. (while denouncing stalin and mao, although they were ALL very much alike.) 2) those who denounce hitler, mussolini and the WORD fascism while embracing and pursuing all their tactics and goals. 3) then there's those who're rebranding fascism as FREEDOM, as something that its not. they're rebranding it as the alternative to authoritarianism. these people are simply lying. they're misrepresenting their true intent. they're using fraud to misrepresent fascism in order to establish an authoritarian fascist state. 4) then there are those on left who refuse to accept the fact that they're "leadership" are using fascist concepts and tactics, themselves, to accomplish their political agendas. and that many of their goals are, in fact, NOW, fascist in nature. words actually HAVE definitions. but these days, thanks to the internet, if definitions or reality interfere with your delusions or your skewed and corrupted world view - the definitions and reality are discarded in favor of the delusions and lies. and this is what our oppressors want. its taken 6000 years of elitist propaganda but the elite have FINALLY succeeded in turning humanity into a mindless, unreasoning and compliant slave species.
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