Comments by "Dima S" (@dimas3829) on "What If? Operation Unthinkable" video.

@DavidNaval ended several months after his death, proving original point. Stalin had no surrender in his vocabulary.
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@ComeAndTakeIt9235 Germans were quite stronger, with better battle experience, tactics and determination than Americans meanwhile Soviets were in the middle of modernization and relocation of their defensive lines.
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American army didn't really felt the weight of the war (at least those that fought in European theater), meanwhile Soviets would be absolutely ready to fight defensively.
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@DavidNaval it was, but soviet army was deterministic at that point to stand against any enemy necessary. Allied armies - not so much.
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@3baxcb the swift and absolute success over France in 1940 quite dulled the skepticism in German army, though.
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@User-he6zd protecting Motherland before such would be burnt once again - was more than enough of reason to keep on fighting, yes.
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@jaredjosephsongheng372 Except that you have no clue WHAT the strategy of using nukes in combat was proposed by the US high command. Long story short, the allied troops were supposed to advance THROUGH the explosion site to achieve success as quickly as possible (same strategy was later on copied by Soviet High Command when they developed nukes of their own). The results of such assaults would be devastation of American own divisions by the radiation poisoning which was NOT well known at the time. The usage of nukes would backfire on Allies significantly, especially when the irradiated soldiers would be sent back to home and the ships irradiated by them would be used to send more fresh troops from America into Europe all meanwhile everyone involved had no clue what was happening and whether or not it's all just Soviet chemical attacks or something that gathers millions of allied soldiers lives. The usual procedures of several weeks-months quarantine would NOT work at all and all Allied logistics would be screwed. THEN comes the irradiation of families of soldiers and doctors at home. All in all, it would be nightmare scenario for US.
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more like somewhat dependent and it's not like the west didn't get paid for such..
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nah, Americans would suffer from their own nukes more than achieve through usage of such.
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@Robouteguilliman-t7o soviet indeed suffers, but Americans would suffer significantly more. The safety regulations against nuclear poisoning were not well developed for decades. You should probably google what the plan was for operation Downfall's usage of nukes and how that would lead to millions of Allied soldiers irradiated.
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lmao, outgunned and outnumbered the allied troops would be against the soviets. With little to no moral to back them up too.
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@historysimplified4075 yes, they would be. UK and France was on a brink of communist revolution by te 1945, they couldn't handle any prolonged fight whatsoever without political collapse. US would fare better, but even then it couldn't conscript more troops without severe retaliation of public that by that time got used to the thought that soviets were allies against Hittler. If original plan of UK to enlist ex-Wermacht and ex-SS would come to fruition - the situation deteriorate further. All in all, numbers were on Soviet side. Regarding the guns - the American divisions were quite envious on amount of automatic weaponry that Soviets had. Yes, I know, enemy at the gates and other propaganda movies made you think that it was other way around, but you should probably rather check out youtube historians that thoroughly researched the composition of battle units at the time. Long story short, soviet troops were better equipped, weaponry-wise, while lacking radios. That would play it's role on skirmish battles in allies favor, but on the huge battlefront it was soviet advantage plain and simple. Soviet rocket artillery in particular would wreck allied ranks like there is no tomorrow. Naval vessels- irrelevant, you can't use such in frozen northern seas at your leisure. Aircraft - Soviets had shown their superiority in Korean war, so there's that.Tanks - soviets had twice tha allied numbers at the possible front-line and even though US could bring more - it would take some time and it would be already late to make change. Nuclear weapons - as I said in comments around here the US had rudiment knowledge of it's consequences and battle strategy planned for operation Downfall, for example, would ensure irradiation of millions of allied troops (since soldiers were to be pushed through the bombing site in matter of days after one, to ensure mobility of the front.. and their own horrible death if that plan was to be used).
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a few years ago? Yeah, good luck on listening advice and opinion of 80-90 year old.
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@ComeAndTakeIt9235 how so? Western Europe was devastated by Allied bombardment and Ural industry was secure.
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@ComeAndTakeIt9235 yes, American troops are extremely spoiled and unable to sustain difficulties like other proper armies. Also one of a few reasons why there is epidemic of Diabetes in USA.
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@ComeAndTakeIt9235 a great example of flex to inspire their own troops and intimidate enemy by that PR stunt, sure. Meanwhile, the propaganda campaigns at home such as "if you are riding your car alone - you are riding with Hitler" or collection of garbage for recycling said very different thing about the industry. US pushed itself to the limit for great profit, but being at it's limit had it's own dangers.
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@Socialismus true, they also made it their best effort to get numerical superiority going by exterminating most of POWs and civilian population that they came across, though not for too long. Eventually soviet troops outnumbered them. Though, partially it was due to the right ideology of the nazis - the moment they put woman into the workforce instead of being house pets of moral support - they lost all that was dear to them. Meanwhile it was absolutely normal for soviets to give their woman work if man are needed at the front and in some cases woman were perfectly ok in the army too.
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How'd american bombers would be able to reach so deep into Soviet territory, though? Declaration of war on USSR by allies in 1939 would result in Germany not declaring one on soviets, duh. Allies would lose, horribly.
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@reeganana7094 the governments may be, but with the constant propaganda of "your allies look like this" description of Soviets made specifically for allied troops - there would be indeed mutinies in American army if government suddenly declared their allies as their enemies now.
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@antikommunistischaktion for signs of untermensht, I presume? So what are nazis like yourself doing in this comment section exactly?
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@nikolaideianov5092 lmao as if. If distance wouldn't be an issue for b-29 - then there would be no need to taking over Okinawa.
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more like fair pay... after all they wanted Soviet gold and diamonds for all that overpriced lend-leaze..
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yet better equipped and battle hardened. Allies had way worse positions since it wasn't familiar landscape to them, while it was for soviets. And no, soviets weren't dependent on lend-lease. The allies were much more over-extended with the whole pacific theatre to worry about.
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@RottingIntellectYT Adequately, my ass. Despite receiving a majority chunk of lend-lease and literally starving their Indian colony to the death of millions of indians.. British islands still had starvation of their own. Rations were hard to come by and civilians desperately wanted for peace to finally come. When it comes to military - Germans threw all they had at soviets while rest of allies met minuscule resistance. If beaches of Normandy were properly manned and not by some leftover collaborator Czech and Polish troops - allies would met the same fate as British landing in Ottoman's galipoli in ww1. The most casualties were suffered by soviets at the start of the war, when typical German behavior was to surround them by superior numbers, force capitulation then exterminate at the death camps like the rest of 20 million soviet civilians. From the 1942 forward no such event happened so the most experienced soviet soldiers were majority of ending force. France is a Homeland of the Revolution, my dude, can't comprehend why'd you consider them loyal to British and Americans instead of Soviets. The home of people that exterminated their aristocrat parasites viewed soviets much more favorably than the rest of the allies. Also Greeks were quite letdown that it wasnt soviets who liberated them , but allies... that then proceeded to crackdown on socialist majority there, uhuh. Polish uprising was nationalistic in its nature, soviets didn't want to change one sort of nazis into another one, what a surprise. Regarding the manpower shortages - sure, US had reserves to spare and at least money extorted from British to pay such. Still, the battle-hardened soviets were used to fight with lack of resources under their belt while the most patriotic movies about American marines (i.e. elite forces) portray such as pussies that whine about lack of toilet paper.
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@Robouteguilliman-t7o you are indeed ignorant, sure.
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@snapdragonzoroark you mean real casualties at the front battles OR the casualties due to German systematic killings of Soviet POWs?
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@davidblair9877 yet, it was indeed part of Churchill's plan and no wonder. Most of nazi high command found their place in NATO structures in original timeline.
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except that factories that fueled Soviet war machine were literally relocated to Ural mountains in 1931 to never be bombed by German planes, lmao. And American industrial complex wouldn't work without payments... like lend-leaze ones which was 33% Soviet ones. Not to mention that soviets were much more equipped with semi-automatic and automatic weapons contrary to the whatever stupid propaganda you are spouting here. American soldiers were envious on how well soviets were equipped at the time. Also, you probably study what tactics were to be used by Americans regarding nuclear weapons, long story short, at the time and for decades to come - Americans would suffer significantly more losses from it if used in direct combat cause they'd just send their troops through the site just several days later in assumption that it would be enough for safety measures.
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