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@whatever6499 Маня, хватит придумывать. В Харькове украинские войска скрыли свою военную технику среди жилых домов, в Киеве делают тоже самое, но вот виноваты в этом оказывается русские, ага. Военные преступления военных преступного фашистского режима Украины будут судиться и всех ответственных за это непотребство мразот расстреляют, как расстреляют и тех кто призывает гражданское население Украины кидать коктейли молотова под российские танки. Украинская армия такая смелая, что хочет прикрыться гражданским населением что естественно военное преступление. То, что нам браво рапортуют что потерь нет - скорее всего пропаганда, согласен, только дело ведь не в потерях а в том, что зло должно быть наказано.
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@АлександрАртюх-щ2ь успехи, лол. Просто интересно и любопытно как иногда скрываются мотивы и поступки сторон, как история переписывается в угоду верхушки и подоное. Так, например монголы начали воевать с Русью не на пустом месте, а из-за того, что русские княьзя вырезали направленное к ним посольство (с предложением вместе резать малые кочевые народы) потому что банально не знали на каком языке с ними разговаривают и не хотели с этим разбираться.
Или, например, то, что Наполеон был первым правителем массово поставившим себе под контроль машину гос пропаганды и легенарно просравший Египетскую кампанию, оставив своих солдат умирать - смог перевернуть правду и вымысел с ног на голову и выставить те события как легендарную культурную победу Фрацнии.
Про ту же операцию "скрепка" по которой американцы к себе на работу привезли нацистских преступников знают многие, но вот мало кто копает в сторону экспериментов на людях, что они массово проводили, с одним важным нюансом - НИ ОДИН моральный урод заражавший людей без их ведома вирусами, ставивший на них иные бесчеловечные эксперименты или просто вравший добровольцам что именно за эксперименты с ними будут делать - никода не был осуждён американским судом до сих пор.
И так далее, - в истории копатьсяя очень увлекательно, когда сознание не зашорено догматическим запретом видеть хорошее в чужих и плохое в своих.
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+Radziwill чтож тогда эта Турция основательно побитая русской армией дала изды поптавшисся устроит высадку британцам? "Разные весове категории", да?
Каждая попытка прорыва на восточноом фронте связана с проблемами на западном, КАЖДАЯ. Серьёзно ,тебе следует учебники по истории поштудировать чтоле, чтб хуйню не нести о том, что никакой взаимосвязи не было. По факту Россия КРАЙНЕ медленно мобилизовалась (как всегда), а аристократии наоборот хоотелос продлить войну как можно дольше, чтоб попилить побоольше гос. бюджетов на очередных убер супер-мега-танках застревающих в первой же канаве.
В начале 20 века в России был сформирован крайне отрицательный образ охранки.
Керенскй.. да вы ебанулись. Почитайте какая позиция у него была в 1915, какая в 1916 - гнал со всех трибун антивоенные настроения. В 1917 был КРАЙНЕ против продолженя войны с Германией и ввёл херню вроде декларации прав солдата. Нет, это каким мозом надо влаеть, чтоб считать, что Керенский способствовал поддержке военног духа солдат?
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@НовыйНасамсунге маня, не маняврируй. Какие были улики в деле твоего деда, какая статья, кто его судил, какую дали ему харатктеристику знакомые ему люди соответствующей должности?.. Но ты ведь продолжишь визжать как он неуиновен, а по делу ничего так и не скажешь, да? Потому что виноват твой дед и сидел за дело, но тебе приятнее думать, что осудили его несправедливо в суть не вникая. Мало говна к стенке ставили, это да, надо было больше, а не в лагеря отправлять пособников врага воспитывающих своих детей такими же мразями.
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@JonSmith-wg8mr Soledar (provided 100% of salt used in Ukraine), Blagodatnoe, Kleseevka, Crasnopolie, Lobkovoe, Nikolaevka, Podgornoe, Krasnaya Gora, Bakhmut, Sinkovka, Novoselovsk, Veseloe, etc.
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+Ирина Вербная и вот оно, пренебрежительно-оторванное от реальности представление о жизни низшего класса и запавшая в душу иностранная экзотика - да, вы типичное дитя советской интиллегенции, категорически не понимащее, что заслуги родственников - не твои заслуги. Старательно не обращающая внимани на то, что те возможности о которых размечтались твои родсвенники с широкими взглядами приведут к тому, что большинство окружающих лишаться текущих, впрочем что оно тебе - то большинство ,когда ты живёшь грёзами о лучшей жзни для себя любимой, ведь так?
Советский Союз ни в коем слуае не был идеальной системой, но он был системой с идеей развития Человечества, не благ для отдельных людей или даже стран, а развития Человечества - в культуре, спорте, науке. Какая сейчас идея у вас? Где бы потусить среди иностранной тусовки? А у государства нашего - как бы урвать чего для себя любимых за счёт ближних и дальних соседей? Мелочные эгоистичные порывы, очень приземлённые несмотря на декларируемую возвышенность.
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@romanvent5957 российские фемки: прдеоставление особой защиты во время судебных разбирательств, цензурирование новостей об очередной Шуригиной, чтоб не дай бог блядину не затравили, введение уголовного наказания за "преследование" в интернете, разрешить однополые браки, ввести особые надзорные ограны влияющие на законодательство и состоящие целиком только из женщин, ввести такие же надзорные органы в исоплнительную власть, к уполномоченному по правам человека за каким-то хером добавить уполномоченного по правам женщин (да, да, сами феминистки сичтают, что женщина - не человек, лол), создать федеральную и региональыне программы для улучшения жизни только женщин, создать сеть приютов для изнасилованных где они нахаляву могут жить (честно я не знаю насоклько нужно быть больными или наглыми чтобы подобное предлогать, на мой взгля дкроме помощи психолога ничего им больше не нужно), дать право женщинам заниматьс проституцией официально, но при этом продолжать накказывтаь мужиков вовлекающих женщина в проституцию (Л-логика, блять), запретить евреям делать обрезание, обязательные квоты для женщин на руководящие должности (как обычно, - говноедки любят помечтать как бы нихера ни делать и получать деньги за красивые глаза), принудить православную церковь принимать на должности священников женщин (душевнобольные дуры), каждая политическая или общесвтенная организация обязана в своей программе прописывать как они борюься за права секскуальных меньшинств и женщин, переписать учебники по истории с преувеличением значения женщин и устранением любых упоминаний о домострое и иеже с ним, ввести гендерные исследования в программу обучения каждой школы и вуза, обязать СМИ гендерно "просвящать" население о том как нужно склониться перед волей меньшинств и стать баборабами, проводить исследования доказывающие важность феминитивов и прочего искажения речи под верховенство бабья, запретить на телевиденье любое изображение которое можно трактовать как унижающее женское достоинство, пропагандировать женщину как сверхчеловека, отпустить на волю всех баб убивших собутыльника потому что он к ней якобы приставал, бесплатные аборты (ну кудаж без этого у выпердышей западных дерьмократов), запретить консультацию беременной с врачами (пущай слушает феминистическую пропаганду лучше и радостно убивает ребёнка), раздавать бабам бесплатные презервативы, (да, только бабам) организовать клиники убеждающие молодёжь делать аборты (по западной схеме вестимо), обеспечить заключённых женщин халявными предметами гигиены, скостить сроки преступницам имеющим малолетних детей (хуй знает какая больная женская логика это предложение феминисток родила), дать женщинам возможность разгружать вагоны и получать дозы радиации на опасных производствах, включить в пенсионный стаж уход за ребнком, принудить работодателей созать комнаты ребёнка для каждого рабочего места, сформировать специальные подразделения женской полиции, и прочая херня.
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1. Well, Germans had an issue that they laready had lots of mobilised military that could not be moved to crush UK, so they needed a side to strike. It could be better for them to send those troops to conquer India together with Japaneese but that would take lots of oil and would be quite dangerous since UK had naval supremacy. Also the ideology of superority of arian race could not allow them to sek allies inside USSR. Furthermore, USSR had quite efficient counter-espionage system in place and Germans couldnt know of the inside problems there too well.
2. Halkin-gol series of battles with Japanese proved them incapable of breaking USSR from the East long before Germans attacked. Japanese knew that their effort against soviets will bring them only series of defeats at worst and wasteland at best (Siverian oil field wsere discovered only at 70s, so absolute majority of Eastern Russia was worthless to Japan at the time). Also, I would point out that attack on USA was not pointless. USA was enforcing economic blockade on Japan refusing to sell oil for such which could lead to eventual losing of war with China due to logistics problems. Also, Japan had quite a reserve of bio-weapons (that later on was stolen and became American reserve of such) and if they'd choose to use it against USA higly populated areas war against such could make quite a turn (while using it in the cold wastelands of Russia would not be so efficient not ot mention would require special procedures for their own advancing army to deal with contamination).
3. USSR was in the process of heavy industrialisation, the longer they waited the stronger Soviets would become. Yes, from current day we can judge that waiting would be smarter, but it was not mistake from Germans side to attack at the time, knowing what they knew. Only mistake there was not engaging in diplomacy as soon as the invasion stalled. Also, southern mountains were extremely easy to defend. Remember how in ww1 despite losing on all sides, Russian Empire was actually winning in the South against Ottoman Empire despite such sending all it had against Russians.
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@ Маня, Майдан это волеизъявление меньшинства против воли большинства что голосовало за Януковича. Следуюзие выборы на Украине были не за горами и втои подпендосники на них не выигрывали. Да, всяким местным элитам может и не По факту сближения хотели и с западом, и с востоком, та же Белорусь в этом плане была очень выигрышным вариантом.
Снайперы-националисты всем известны, маня, это новая путчистская власть благополучно закрла расследование кто же именно стрелял с отеля Москва по митингующим и беркутовцам пока последние героически сжигались заживо бесящейся толпой так и не открыв огня по бесноватым. Могу ещё вспомнить как страны це Эуропы дружно дали Януковичу гарантии что митингующие не пойдут на штрум, на который те пошли на следующий же день пока эуропейсы набрали в рот воды.
И украинская гражданская началась с того, что бусики вс нацистами поехали на восток, заставлять месных принимать новую фашистскую власть тем насилием, что ты описываешь виня в нём русским. Голову полечи.
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+HaloRocks, oh I see, it was not federal government that massacred native americans in Sand Creek, it's not like South rose against federal government and native americans viewed federal government as evil thing too, is it? South wanted people to know their place, there was no hatred, only order european aristocracy-style, while North wanted to eradicate those who differed from them european radical believers-style.
And once again, the Civil war was fought for keeping legally seceded country form gaining it;s sovereghnity. The all hight and holy goal (typical radical belivers) was invented on the way through and was totally abandoned at the end - cause, duh, segregation was worse than slavery. The south seceded cause it didn't want to get extra taxation while the federal goverment ALWAYS spent those money on the north territories and north got more and more propserios out of essentially robbing south territories.You are mixing up reasons and public statement. When ocuntry gains sovereignity it always state what it's basis is and for the South one of them was indeed slavery itself. It was what this country is about, NOT why this country decided to get it's own rule.
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@theskycavedin once again, Kievan Rus is forced meme, no one living inside of ti called it that, they called themselves Russians just as they do now.
Moscow itself is an ancient settlement that predates invention of the wheel (people got there by the river), though, it's mostly irrelevant, what is relevant is that the same culture with the same people lived in Rus and Russia.
Southern Russia, if you want to talk that particular Ukraine (there were others, as Ukraine literally means borderland in Russian, like Grey Ukraine in Ural mountains and yellow Ukraine nearby China) was constantly at the risk of attacks from Ottoman Empire and their slaver puppets - Crimean Tatars, till the threat was eventually was eradicated by Russia. Still, the rapes, slavery (practiced by both sides, it was not uncommon for Ukrainian cossaks to get himself a bride out of military raid) made southern Russians into more of a mixed race than central and eastern slavs, so you can indeed point out some minor (after all, it's hard to find ethnically pure slav nowadays in Russia as it;s proudly multicultural country) differences between Russians and Ukrainians nowadays, but the region is still historically Russian.
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@dreamofspring7930 lmao, Lithuania wasn't a puppet cause in entered the Commonwealth on it's own free will. During "Time of Troubles" Polish nobility made use out of some random "Russian" making him impersonate the prince Dmitry of Russia that died not long before and waged not official war with Russia. That impersonator was seriously regarded as a rightful heir to the empty Russian throne, was crowned in Moscow and married a Polish noblewoman.. and was killed several days later by angry Russian mob cause he acted in no way as a Russian and in no Russian interests throwing promises how he would make Russia Catholic and properly Polish...
No big deal, Poland pulled out the next prince Dmitry's impersonator out of it's ass and waged war against whoever was placeholder for Russian government at the time.. won, but at the time inner political struggle let them to abandon the second impersonator (who was quietly murdered to not become hindrance to Polish royalty's ambitions) and outright put a son of polish king on Russian throne instead, who promised to keep Orthodox Christianity around.. but that didn't lasted cause Polish king himself decided to rule Russia and the first thing to do in his list was to replace Orthodox Christian faith with Catholicism, imprisoning the leader of Orthodox Church while at it... That infuriated Sweedes who were Protestant so they attacked Russia once more this time around to not let it become Catholic. Polish and German mercenaries has burned Moscow for some fucken reason. Russian people become significantly infuriated too, even those oligarchs that previously were not so against Polish rule.. and while all this happened crimean tatars grabbed their chance to pillage, rape and enslave some white people from Russia too. etc.
Long story short, the fate that Poland was making for Russia was much MUCH worse than just to become a puppet, nah, it was more a total annihilation of culture, religion while most of population would be eradicated one way or another. That's the precise reason why Russia historically hates Poland and wishes it to die in significant suffering no less than the one that Poland made it go through. Though, it was Polish dumb-fuckery that didn't allow it to properly puppet Russia in the first place.
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@RupertDonovan - наглядное передвижение предмета разговора товарищи. Не смог Руперт доказать одно, начинает доказывать немного другое.Советская тюрьма, Руперт, это отдельные зоны для бандитов,отдельыне лдя политических и отдельные для казнокрадов. Условно досрочно ты можешь выйти если будешь честно трудится не нарушая режим, а если ты вурдалак эдакий работать отказываешься, режим не соблюдаешь, а потом на старости лет изображаешь из себя жертву - ты сам себе дурак. Королёв взял госдуарственные деньги, выделенные на конкретныйпроект для победы в войне и распилил их на свой собственный личный проект который ему до того не одобрили эффективно украв общественное имущество и ты можешь верещать сколько угодно что это якобы не воровство, но уже без меня. Иди ка ты в блок, либерастное ты ничтожество.
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государство это люди, все люди в определённых границах. Высказывания на этот счёт представителя государства старательно уничтожающего веками всех не достаточно эталонных по национальному и социальному признаку - мне фиолетовы. Для того, чтобы подвести людей СССР к мысли о нужде в глобальному изменению страны как таковой, партийной элите пришлось горбатиться не менее 10 лет с одной стороны лья в уши населениию помои из-за границы, с другой - разрабатывая планы по превращению во второй Китай с дерьмом вместо экологии и дешёвым дерьмом вместо продукции. Никогда такой "народной" мудрости, что вы выдали не слышал, видимо не с тем народом общался,"узники психбольниц голосуют за Ельцина", да? Этого "народа" ваша "мудрость"?
Те, кто реально хотели свалить из России - сваливали, точно также, а скорее намного легче чем сваливают из Северной Кореи. Тот же район Брайтонский Пляж, в Нью-Йорке если не ошибаюсь, был нводнён русским мигрантами задолго до развала СССР и стал притчей во языцах всей вашей делающий вид что не может уехать тусовки точно также ка кнародным анекдотом проявившим себя в комедиях советской эпохи всё о вас же.
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@vikvik09 какое нахрен отношение? Хотите личного - ненавижу турков за их торговлю рабами, в том числе славянами, геноцид этнических меньшинств за и уничтожение Восточной Римской Империи, но какое это имеет значение? Для государства важно насколько эффективна форма правления для административного управления, экономика и научное развитие, поддерживается ли монополия на насилие. И да, закон Фатиха был очень полезен позволив Османам проскочить период, который прошли все их соседи и расширить границы за счёт отщипывания у оных. Оценивать такую вещь как государство надо с объективной позиции, а не приплетая личное мнение по поводу этичности происходящего как делает Басовская и вы. В основном у Османов всё было замечательно, до самой Вены в походах добирались, но проблема эффективности административного ресурса поначалу тормозила их развитие, а затем, при росте национального самосознания, привела к активному росту сепаратизма и постоянным проигрышам России.
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@vikvik09 ну оке, я пытался обойти этот гнилой не аргумент, но раз вы так настаиваете - нет, ничего смелого нет в том, чтобы ставить под сомнение высказывания человека каким бы авторитетом он в определённых кругах ни обладал. Не нужно быть поваром, чтобы критиковать плохо приготовленную яичницу, не нужно быть профессором исторических наук чтобы критиковать субъективный вгляд профессионала.
Незнание законов морали? Что за дичь вы тут пытаетесь мне втереть ещё и пытаясь сказать, что это элементарная истина? Какие нахер законы морали? У каждого, блять, своя мораль, почему вам так это трудно понять? Вы всю жизнь жили в библиотеке и не знакомы ни с одним иностранцем? Даже с гостями из горных республик не знакомы? У КАЖДОГО СВОЯ МОРАЛЬ, сформированная образом жизни соответствующего этноса. А, понял, у вас евроцентристское мировоззрение, что только то, что было основано на римском праве и законах является абсолютной моралью, а мораль среднестатистического китайца это не мораль вовсе, а залуждение которое просвящённый европеец обязан развенчать индоктринируя оного китайца в свою систему ценностей потмоу что его - "не правильная". Смешно. Не поймутс вас даже дальше вашего сельпо с таким мировоззрением.
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Hitlary would won if Russians were in control of elections. Remember who were the guys she sold uranium to for some donations to her fund for fuck's sake (Russian were veeery pleased with her corrupt ways). Travel ban was legal since protcetion against terrorist's attack is not fucking discrimination tool, it's safety one. Pardoning is one of the preisent's legal powers so go fuck yourself. You may not like the person he pardons, but president truly has legal powers to do so.
Telling on of the little secrets of jew special forces is not criminal, nor a treason, it's more of a misbehaviour which could turn off USA's allies, but not effect any american citizen whatsoever. Furthermore, the secret related to one undercover agent working in ISIS as far as I could tell and Russia is the most eager fighter against that terrorist group so only retards would find a real problem in that information leaking to them. Personally, I would be more pissed off by the sectert info Hitalry leaked and that her computer was used by proved peadophile to stalk one of his victims, duh.
BTW, I'm not native speaker, sorry about dat.
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Сборище дебилов в великолепном сеттинге. Два карьериста дебила - бывалый (мракобес) и не очень, ""умный" дебил решивший плыть с карьеристами (причём к чему прииводит карьеризм бывалого дебила ""умный" дебил знал очень хорошо) и положивший болт на явного бутезёра-ирландца, а не повесивший его на рее до неизбежного мятежа, шаман-дебил - полезший на испуганных людей (пофиг если он про огнестрел не знает - я б его и из лука застрелил бы или копьё метнул появись внезапно его голова после ора медведо-человеко-свина, на его месте достаточно было пару сллв сказать на своём языке громко,а лучше песню пропеть, чтоб люди знали что к ним идёт человек), матрос-дебил скрывавший свою болезнь до пиздецомы, боцман-дебил винящий себя в том, что не помер спасая упавшего за борт матроса. Дроп на третьей серии, здесь не за кого переживать, хочется чтоб побыстрее он все сдохли и похуистическое отношение съёмочной группы к реалиям того сеттинга который вырисовывают - делу не помагает.
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1stly and most importantly, Germans exterminated the Soviet POWs
2ndly, those that they didn't exterminated - they hired as a Russian liberation army numbering millions... and all casualites of such are too added to the USSR
3rdly, nazi used the help of local nazi collaborators such as Baltic and Ukrainian nationalists.... their deaths are too added to the USSR military casualties.
4thly, Germany had all of Europe under it's sleeve for it's military industrial complex and while USSR had some industry and lend-lease - it wasn't really comparable. Germans had better equipment, armor, more ammunitions, etc.
5thly, There were other nazi forces under Germany belt even among coutnries that didn't officially participated in the war itself, liek volonteers from Spain that participated in starving and genocide of Leningrad. The casualties of such forces are not added up to German ones.. somehow.
6thly, Germany had superior tank tactics and used them to many encirclements that obliterated Soviet forces and forced such into 1st and 2nd reason.
7thly, the widepsread Partisan movement in USSR armed militia forces that were lightly armed and became easy prey to the Germans, despite their somewhat complex status - they still added up as Soviet militayr casualties (and proudly so, cause they common man defending from the nazi menace fas considered a hero)
And no, shitty ww1 generals who only knew how to kill fellow Russians and lose to Poland wouldn't make a difference in ww2, Stalin was right of getting rid of them.
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@ИдиотДимирский ну не таким именно как врушка топик-стартер, но да, перемешивая национальности, заставляя их жить в новых для себя обстоятельствах и уживаться с местными он надеялся создать государство без национальных предрассудков, отживших себя обычаях и суевериях, - по заветам комунизма. Жаль не удалось, а только усилило национальную ненависть направленную в сторону почему-то русских, как будто нас самих не мешали в том же котле товарищи с еврейскими и грузинскими фамилиями. Можно добавить что для евреев это была особо больная тема, так как ярый национализм навязываемый поколениями предков -порядком задолбал многих из еврейской молодёжи, что воспринимали себя именно что космополитами, а не богоизбранным народом.
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@historysimplified4075 yes, they would be. UK and France was on a brink of communist revolution by te 1945, they couldn't handle any prolonged fight whatsoever without political collapse. US would fare better, but even then it couldn't conscript more troops without severe retaliation of public that by that time got used to the thought that soviets were allies against Hittler. If original plan of UK to enlist ex-Wermacht and ex-SS would come to fruition - the situation deteriorate further. All in all, numbers were on Soviet side.
Regarding the guns - the American divisions were quite envious on amount of automatic weaponry that Soviets had. Yes, I know, enemy at the gates and other propaganda movies made you think that it was other way around, but you should probably rather check out youtube historians that thoroughly researched the composition of battle units at the time. Long story short, soviet troops were better equipped, weaponry-wise, while lacking radios. That would play it's role on skirmish battles in allies favor, but on the huge battlefront it was soviet advantage plain and simple. Soviet rocket artillery in particular would wreck allied ranks like there is no tomorrow.
Naval vessels- irrelevant, you can't use such in frozen northern seas at your leisure. Aircraft - Soviets had shown their superiority in Korean war, so there's that.Tanks - soviets had twice tha allied numbers at the possible front-line and even though US could bring more - it would take some time and it would be already late to make change. Nuclear weapons - as I said in comments around here the US had rudiment knowledge of it's consequences and battle strategy planned for operation Downfall, for example, would ensure irradiation of millions of allied troops (since soldiers were to be pushed through the bombing site in matter of days after one, to ensure mobility of the front.. and their own horrible death if that plan was to be used).
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@ what agreements, lmao? The Crimea was supposed to be Russian in the firt place and was illegally annexed by Ukrainan Soviet Republic. That aside, Ukraine lost it's sovereign status in 2014 when coup take power and Russia was unbidden to the agreements with the previous state, duh. Furthermore, if Russia actually attacked in 2014 it would easily obliterate what was left of rotting Ukrainian army which equipment was at that point sold out to African countries and Georgia.Finally, there was no agreement that would prevent Russia to act on in 2022 too, don't know what you are trying to lie about there. In case you misunderstood something - Minsc agreement was between Ukraine and DPR and LPR.
And yes, Putin agreed to give back Donbass and Crimea and was ready to rewrite COnstitution again, cause the only thing that Russia really need is security of it's borders and wweaponless Ukraine is enough for that.
P.S. The terrorists that proudly killed civilian population of Donbass are Ukrainian authorities and nazi batallions of theirs, equipped by the CIA and Biden cronies, thanks for porving to be on the side of bad guys again.
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@someone2549 yes, yes. People always complain, no matter where you go be it one country or another. That's natural, we usually don't appreciate what we have at hand, like Russian free healthcare one of the best in the world, but there is no perfection so people complain even about it. Pensions are the issue.. that many countries like US just outright don't have at all. Overall, what is most important is how much you can buy with your money, not the amount itself. And then we come to the enormous size of Russia and how goods needs to travel those distances and how much people pay for that and how in capitalistic system it's inevitable issue, etc.
Russia's ambulance response is extremely quick, modern hospitals are built this very year. Staff is... meh, the most qualified medicine workers find themselves in private hospitals which are lots of of any kind you'd want, but I guess that's quite ordinary too.
We also very close culturally with Ukrainians, have same favorite meals, songs, customs, etc.The differences are really negligible. We laugh at their hoarding and love for freedom, they laugh at our arrogance and aspiration for strong leaders. Pretty much same people, if you ask me. Just we have less corruption and they are more outgoing.
P.S. My mother's father was Ukrainian and I'm studying to become paramedic, so there's that. Spent some time in Crimea while it was Ukrainian (was pretty pissed at their cannibalizing Soviet heritage instead of building anything new), some in London (good grass, pathetic healthcare, atrocious housing and no central heating which is almost barbaric in it's nature. Don't let me started on how Brits don't care about their kids warmth), inside of Russia been in St. Petersburg, Moscow, a village right between them, at Moscow region and several places in Ural (the centre of Russia, dividing Asia from Europe). Seen towns ruled by man, woman, committee, etc. Overall, you'd find place you'd want to call home here regardless of your preferences.
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@gloriousblobber9647 You sound confused. If we take that Syrian conflict started at 2011 and Ukrainian one in 2014 - they are 3 years apart. You are trying to strawmen here, putting words in my mouths as if I was arguing that the Ukrainian conflict started in 2022. I'm well aware that the mess of Ukrainian civil war had started with illegal coup that put forces and region loyal to the last legitimate president at odds with the western regions, with ensuing massacres of the former like the one in Odessa.
Now, regarding the "ceasefire", there was no such a thing. There were hot and cold stage, sure, but that was due to logistics and sides preparing their troops better. Syrian civil war had lost of extremest (that would not tolerate ceasefires) participating in as well as Ukrainian one (in fact, Russian government was pretty glad that most of it's extremest went there in 2014, cause that significantly eased up situation inside of Russia with, for example, pro-monarchist groups effectively eradicating themselves in the process of fighting for Donbass)
Finally, mind if I remind you that when you argue that SMO was a failure of supposed 3 days operation - you sorta omit that Ukrainian ATO was claimed to succeed in 48 hours according to Ukrainian officials in 2014 (while no Russian official confirmed 3 days timetable.. in the context of not using nukes while at it, that is) and failed even more miserably.
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Putin will cleanse Ukraine from your nazi buddies, a shame, I know. Holodomor is fake narrative, invented out of naturally occuring famine to jutify Ukrainian nazis in their hatred of minorities. No wonder you brought it up. Japanese were not defeated when Soviets came to liberate Manchuria, again your anrti-communism bbias showing up. And then turns out you are German, ah, it;s all fits. Russia won against your nazi filth once, will win this time too. Lmao, it was Poland that declared war on USSR, not other way around, in 1920s, my dude, quit your alternatiuve history nattative. King Leopold installed a trade company, a corporation, if you will, to see through getting profits from Congo, it's those corporate bastards fault that massive atrocities were committed, but that is uncomfortable truth that anti-communist such as yourself will never acknowledge, right? Oh yeah, Germany crushing Russia in ww1... it's not like Russia crushed 2 of it's Empire allies - i.e. Ototman Empire and Austria-Hungarian one before that wile France, Britain and US sat on their asses doing nothing but senseless meatgrinders. Ah, yes, totally not controllable diseases that westerners gave native americans in form of disease ridden blankets specifically to genocide them, sure, also no mention of intentional genocide of nativ echildrens by catholic church in Canada, figures.
Stalin was one of the best rulers out of all. You can lie about him all you want, Ganz.
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@danzoom the same Stalin that encouraged small business, made religious restrictions more liberal and kept Lenin idea of promoting local cultures, eh? Not saying that for Stalin era would be absurd. Soviet union was the most multicultural entity in the world and denying it is just absurd. Nobody cared about your identity as long as you were beneficial part of the society. Hence why half a party were Jews, the ethnicity that were hated globe-wide at the time. USSR didn't care. Soviet Union had ambitions to spread worldwide, sure, calling it imperialist is strange though ,since it never had colonies and made it's best effort that core region would spend as much as they could on developing the border ones. Regarding freedoms - Soviet citizens had lots of them, contrary to the rest of the world. Freedom to have a job, house, medicare, education, etc.
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+Сергей Шик какая прелесть, доллар был дешевле, - с этим можно согласиться. вспомнив вообще-т пр крах и девальвацию рубля, когда прежние накопления мгновенно обесценились, но насчёт заводов.. вы поехавший? Массово закрывалось всё, сотни тысяч шахтёров били каскамии об асфальт потому что им годами не выплачивали зарплату, а не как сейчас стадо копртивленцев с айфонами миитингующими "как тяжело жить". Люди последнее на стихийных рынках продавали ради того, чтоб купить хоть немного еды, многие, включая мою семью, жили на гуманитарную помощь из-за рубежа -такой пиздец был в стране, но ты давай, вижзи дальше как при Путине плохо.
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+Сергей Шик если бы ты слушал президента, а не нёс чушь о нём, которой тебе засрали мозг, то знал бы, что Путин не раз признавал проблемы нашей экномикии, а также тщетно пыталс интегрироваться в международную даже с учётом некоторых потерь, которое данное решение бы принесло..таки не пускают, нику в западном мире интегрированная Россия не нужна. Цены в Росси привязаны к инфляции рубля и его покупательной способности, но это несколько сильно экономиеская область требуща спецфическогоо образования, поэтмоу в ответ на тебя кидатьсяя не буду за это незнание. Такхи заводов, кторые ныне сотнями елси не тысячами стоят запустевшими не один десятоок лет. СССР была страной с проработанной внутренней экономикой расчианной на взаимодейсвтие ныне отделных стран, при развале мнгиие предприятия стали не актуальны, поскольку было нарушено взаимодейсвтие между ними и заводами на территории соседних государств. СССР был на самообеспечении именн за счёт специализации отдельных входящих в нег субъектов, этого не вернуть мотому что это уже отдельные страны, надеюсь это когда-нибудь до тебя дойдёт. Хотя ладно, продолжай визжать как Путин во всём виноват, смотю говна и ярости в тебе на 10 хомячков хватит.
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The main problem was logistics, In fact, logistic department of German army warned generals that winning against USSR is technically impossibility with current reserves but were tossed aside. Later on, same generals invented out of their assses a myth that it was Russian winter or Hitler's incompetence that costed them a war.
Secondly, USSR was absolutely ready for defensive war. Germany's mistake was to strike it first cause it raised huge morale boost for the Soviets and patriotic fervor. Soviets would not surrender, not even if Moscow would be taken, even if Germans came soo far to Ural mountains - the defense of such would be fierce. It would be quite different story if Stalin eventually attacked Germans to liberate Europe from fascism.
Thirdly, failed ideology. Fascism enforces woman to the role of a mother and a cook, subservient to the men. In the time where soviet woman were fighting along side soviet man and were working at factories, german woman were only tending kids and knitting warm clothes for their beloved on the front. It could be also noted that Nazi Germany hunted down specific categories of people and races among whose there were several brilliant engineers and scientists that escaped to other countries such as USA.
Finally, Nazi Army had no unified weaponry. Italians were armed with one type of rifles, Romanians with another, Hungaians with a third, etc. Lack of unified weapon standards led to the constant shortages of the relevant ammunition on the frontline and even in best possible logistic conditions the issue of lacking spare parts for repair would be quite annoying to say the least.
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Открываем Ветхий Завет, что является их личными историческими хрониками, смотрим. Пришли в эти земли из Египта (сбежав с рабства), загеноцидив местное население - "Филистимлян". Убили всех, крове девочек которых снасильначали, дальше сидели тут до римских времён (после римлян часть евреев принявших Ислам вернулось - это и есть Палестинцы). Дальше мыкались где как, не интегрируясь до падения Османской Империи. В Первую Мировую Англия как всегда наврала всем, используя в чёрную. Местное арабское население восстало против осман под гарантии что ВСЕ эти территории отойдут мусульманам. Англичане арабов по итогу предали, отдав эти территории евреям. Прижали в 1922 году, создав колониальный режим, силой оружия заставив местных принять систему где англичане высшая раса, евреи - вторые после первых, а арабы - скот под ногами первых и вторых. По мере роста местного населения (и потерь, что Империя получила от Второй Мировой) англам пришлось уйти к 1947 году, отдав права высшей расы евреям. В 1947 году ООН принял резолюцию о двойном государстве, что не устроило большинство - арабов. Арабы восстали, евреи, за счёт оставленного британцами оружия победили в войне 1947-1949 и закрепили своё положение, начав угнетать местных, постепенно закручивая гайки. Окружающие арабские государства охренели, сами нападали на Израиль с паршивыми результатами, что привели только к росту его территорий.
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@opsuport9723 lmao, USSR delegated certain amount of autonomy to the Soviet Republics (the very reason why it collapsed into many countries, duh) and Ukrainian beurocrats do have a burden of lying to the highest authority that everything is fine to keep their asses in warm chairs... they were sent to gulag, by the way, appropriate measure for those scumbags.
Stalin wasn't all-knowing God, lmao. He did lots of mistakes due to lack of education in certain spheres. For example, The filth of a pseudo-scientist Lysenko pretty much wated all genetics field in the soveit biology cause he was persuasive enough and talked Stalin into following his ideas.
Don't invent things out of your ass. Stalin was harsh with his enemies, but there is a reason that he kept lots of nobility (including even some members of the royal family) alive - he was more concerned about usefullness of a person, than of his origin or character traits (hence why he igrored Beria cucking lots of married officers. By the way, it's hilarious that the cucked husbands later on invented a myth that Beria was a serial murderor and pedophile just cause he was so succesfull in pleasing their wifes with numerous gifts and fucked them while their husbands were away). He personally pardoned arund 40 thousands people on that very premise - that despite being scumbags, they were professionals in their fields of work and he couldn't afford to lose them. He would never be as wasteful to indiscrimiately kill groups of people. Hell, even depsite being at odds with Trotskyists, he abandoned his original idea of having one united state and went into dividing it into federation of semi-autonomous ones - in a form of a compromise with trotskyists.
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@soundslike8454 It was necessary cause Ukraine was preparing to try to take over Crimea with the weaponry that US and Germany supplied them - according to Merkel and Sholtz testimony (effective leades of Germany at the time). Russia couldn't afford that. Otherwise, sitting on your hands while US installing puppets regimes around you is a one-way to self-destruction. Russia didn't allow color revolution to take over Armenia, Georgia, Kazahstan and Belarus, it couldn't afford to let US try to corner Russia.
Lmao, US didn't bother to invade Cuba? Are you sure about that? Bay of pigs invasion of 1961 - google it. Wait till you learn how they toppled pretty much every south american government to become servants of american corporations. Iraq and Syria invasion that provided US with free oil and such.
Strategically stupid would be allowing Americans to do what they always do, trying to dominate the world with their regime changes, invasions, puppet governments and aggressive alliance. NATO was promised to not spread eastwards, by the way, the promise quickly broken as soon as USSR fallen.
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@GrimMeowning except England being literal Roman Empire's territory with all it's cities built by Roman design, sure (with the border wall placed by the Legions on the same border as it is now between England and Scotland). Keep on going, though, your intentional ignorance is hilarious.
The what I"m saying? WW2 was started by Japan, by the way. Inept League of Nations gave way to further aggression such as Italian in Ethiopia and only then Hitler caught the wind and decided to act too.
Can agree with you on Mejlis - Russia indeed ended that autonomous form of self-governance. Novgorod;s traditions of self-governance are incompatible with big functioning state that Russia became.
Ethnic Russian is oxymoron. Russian by itself is always a mixed-blood. Ethnic Georgian is a thing, ethnic Armenian is, ethnic Russian or Ukrainian - isn't. Though, few nations kept their xenophobic ways and stayed ethnically homogeneous. Ukrainians were periodically exterminated by Ottomans and collaborators of such with constant need of replacing the Russian settlers with new ones. Wait till you learn that there were dozens of Urkaines and each and every one of such served as Russian frontier, hence the name itself "Ukraine=U kraya=borderland", hence why a Russian living on Borderland was called Ukrainian, as simple as. Living on borders of your country gave way to shift of language, hence why modern Ukrianian language is a mix of Russian and Polish.
By the way, I'm still waiting for your explanation why should I or anyone else care about Crimean Tatars.
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@tanyastark9533 В СССР были буржуи, для них спецмагазин был, Берёзка, где они валюту меняли на товары дефицитные, спец курорты, спец услуги, иномарки и продажные ляди на любой вкус, за сим СССР и почил в бозе, после Сталина хрущ-кукурузник дал дорогу коррупции.. На чужие страны тоже нападал - так незаконно СССР окупировал север Ирана во вторую мировую, не смотря на нейтралитет персов - для удобства лендлиза (бриташки юг опккупировали, комуняки - север). Напали на Финов, Поляков, захватили прибалтов, пол европы поставили под прямой контроль. Экспансия страны - явление естественное, не понимаю почему вы так беситесь, что Россия возвращает себе окраину.
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@tanyastark9533 Нытьём и попытками показать свою озабоченность вы тут никого не обманите - крокодил и есть, типичный для проукраинской позиции верещащих"меня то за що" после 10 лет бомбардировок Донбаса, ага. Фальшивое горе - бабкам у подъезда показывайте, оценят.
Украинская армия почти полностью разбита, отчаянные попытки мобилизовать умственно неполноценных и инвалидов мало помогают, большинство агрессиввно настроенных из тех кто далеко до 2014 года кричали "москалей на ножи" - могилизированы. Куча натовской техники уничтожена вместе с старой советской, которую и девать особо было некуда. Миллионы украинцев получили Российское гражданство и ещё больше получит, исходите злобой скольлко хотите.
С любой точки зрения мы освободители и законные хозяева земли украинской, продолжайте верещать и истерить дальше, это ничего не изменит, правда победит.
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если ты с помощью кого-то убиваешь другого, то ты как бе вполне себе сотрудничаешь с первым, не? Шизофазию не разводи и вдумайся в то, что пишешь. Про раздербанивание Польши вообще смешно, во первых та же Польша за год до того раздербанила с Германией Чехословаию, во-вторых украинские нацисты на границе с Польшей вырезали поляков на ура, так что чья бы корова мычала ,а ваша - молчала, в-третьих, СССР одна из последних стран подписавших с Германией договор о ненападении, в-четвёртых упрекать руководство в страны в нежелании войны как минимум смешно, вот ведь "кровавый сталинский режим" - так сильно не хотел терять жизни своих граждан, что даже с Гитлером попытались не доводиить до войны, сарказм.
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@moffxanatos6376 Regiment of 10 million: 10 battalions per 1 million, in one: 10 companies per 100 000, in one: 10 platoons per 10 000, in one 10 sections per 1 000, in one 10 squads per 100, in one 10 teams per 10 soldiers. ‘Ere ya go. Considering absolute majority of human enemies are larger than us, more armored and Imperial guard is usually heavily mechanized, self-sufficient (meaning division between active combatants and logistics being at least approximately 1:1, i.e. fire-teams of 5, squads of 50, etc.) and extremely high casualties – those numbers would do.
Realistically, they in their time absolutely should be organized as regional theater in our time, since our one single planetary armies were divided into several of such during the most devastating wars. Regiment of Imperial guard serves the same role as Wermacht did - conquer the planet and they failed at 18,2 milllion man army, while total Allies and Axis forces numbered 127,2 millions (and those numbers were sustainable by our tech, which is significantly less developed that Empire's one, with corpse-starch and shiet). Considering that only one of 10 Planetary Defence Forces recruits gets to become Imperial Guardsmen, the 10 Million Guardsmen per 100 million regular planetary troops seems legit. With additional Regiments coming to help if necessary.
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+Standardowy Login are you implying a chance of anti-soviet uprisings? Well, there would be possibility for that, but the facts are that population of democratic countries VERY much dislike the war on their own territory, while communistic ones ensures to get patriotic vibes to the population. I wouldn't imagine French or Brits to sustain such human losses (be it a percentage of population or same amount) as USSR sustained in WW2 and not overthrow their own government.).
Indoctrinated East Germany, fellow slav-brothers from Czechoslovak Socialist Republic, People's Republic of Bulgaria - wouldn't ever rebel.
Albania became Chinese friend and if to were attacked by the NATO they would have to deal with China too.
Romania, Hungary, Poland - could rebel against USSR, but there were lots of soviet troop stationed there to ensure order and eve if some minority o people there would rebel- they would be brutally crushed.
Personally, I would active you to pay close attention of what happened in USA during Vietnam's war (long story short, it was surely an uprising against government, a peaceful one with tendencies to turning into civil war) - democratic countries are not suited for long and bloody conflict, that's why they heavily rely on aviation and swift military campaigns nowadays. On the other hand, both USSR and it's satellites and Chin with it's satellites were prepared for new WW, moreso, the preparations for it were eagerly accepted as something essential. The main reason China and USSR broke their friendship is because China was demanding the war of total annihilation as soon as Soviets made their first atomic bomb and Soviets wanted to have moar means of winning it than jut those weapons, so they prepared and prepared and prepared.
I remember watching an old military instruction's|educational film on youtube where it's described how soviet soldiers should act when offensive atomic strike i made onto enemy's city.. It's quite a horror, really. They were supposed to attack right after the mini atomic bomb is exploded and enemy is disoriented and take defensive position in that irradiated city to then march forward to the next one. Now remember thousands of soviet troops that were the guinea pigs for atomic bomb explosions\experimentations in Siberia and imagine THAT sort of people to lose against western cosumerists in terms of morale during a dull-scale war.. It's impossible really. The only reason that Soviets didn't conquer the world was the lack of aggression on their part, not the lacks of means to achieve it.
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Lol, it seems like you don't know shit about soviet draft procedure and the response to it. Those not loyal to Soviets were fabricating forged documents telling that they are unable to serve so they would be put as the bottom's reserve en mass and would be armed only in case that there is a serious lack of troops on the front-line and the front-line itself is deep in the soviet territory. In such a case, seeing how NATO troops would readily commit war crimes against civilians like UK and USA did at the end of WW2 bombing the shit out of civilian cities which didn't have armed facilities or weaponry production, even those not particularly loyal ones would feel hatred towards democratic forces, not the soviet ones.
Mass desertions would e impossible cause of geographic - new soviet troops would be coming from USSR to Europe (with Chinese volunteers cause China would totally participate even if not officially), the disgusting war doctrine of NATO wouldn't led to switching sides either - just google how Yugoslavia was destroyed cause of western intervention. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria... just bomb the shit out of region and hope that some military died for those million civilians killed.
China-Soviet split happened precisely cause USSR wasn't as eager as China to start WW3, there is just no possibility that Chinese wouldn't participate on Soviet side in case of Total war while surely being enemy to it during proxy ones.
The thing with survival is pretty shady one. France was and is strongly socialistic country even today, they were quite friendly with soviets and jut watching modern-day riots of French proletariat it sees pretty evident that est case scenario they would quickly capitulate as soon as there was soviet troops on their soil, in worst case scenario they would enjoy a civil war or switch sides entirely. There was also a case of French gold in USA nd French president suddenly getting "Ara spring" for requesting it back, so surely there was no economical, nor political reason for France to be loyal to NATO and that's not the only country with such mine under it's skin. Many people were sympathetic to USSR in the NATO, especially after aggressive American wars.
The thing with fight for surviving is that at lest USA forced itself (by the government propaganda, sects of Christianity and advertisements) into shelter - there was quite strong feeling or though among the population that in case of Total war you should hide yourself in the most fortified building or bunker you could ever afford, NOT go and enlist in the army.. and surely it was all the way around in Soviet Union.
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Well, duh, most people don't give a fuck about their nation or ideology of their own country. Most of the people want to get a better life and military of USSR provided such opportunities (until the last yer of it's existence. ) There were special stores only for military use, special rights, there was a policy of providing personal apartments for those who served it. People had plenty of reasons to not actually disobey the rule of the soviets.
I don;t know why are you implying that politician's opinion are an ultimate truth. Furtherore 1991 was the year of inevitable collapse and once again it was a peceful time and if war would strike - it was quite a different story.
There were no mass-scale soviet war crimes during WW2, there were several small ones, but the official order was to persecute those committing them by firing squads. Yeah, those "innocent children killed by monster Stalin" include those bastards that decided to rob, rape or kill civilians in a war zone. Well, there was a cases of shit going to the fan in Manchuria cause of Chinese civil war going on, but it was not about civilians, but rather about tons of militant groups fighting there one another.
I did consider why Gerany fough to the last an against Soviets when it cae otp ocounter-offensive, and it sees like you didn't. Germany killed 20 million civilian in USSR and Germany high command considered that soviets would retaliate the same way. Goebbels turned it's propaganda about "evil Russian monsters" to eleven and here we are, even retards like you are are believing it.
Grozny was destroyed by capitalistic forces, not the comunsitic ones, duh. Comunsim has built this city and capitalism destroyed it. Though it seems like you don't want to know WHY exactly it happened. Let e inform you - capture of Russian civilians their torture and ransoming their relatives.
- robbing of Russian trains
- Attacks on the neighboring Russian states, particularly terror attacks on schools and hospitals.
- and open arms trade
All in all, Chechnya was not very nice place and even though Russian way of dealing it was retarded the reasoning behind such actions were decent ones. Your nonsense is like if Cuba turns into pirate hideout which would think USA's civilian ships, abduct civilians from USA, etc. and saying that UA should ever intervene cause those pirates has rights to do as they please... Quite a bullshit, isn't it?
Ah Afghanistan and it's "movement of peace" founded and sponsored by USA Al'Queda.. Yeah, it's those pesky Russians that fucked up the region, not Americans at all.
And what about Syria? I didn't heard anything bad about what Russia would do there e it communist one or the capitalist one. Russia is one of the few countries that helps civilians in the region and acts as a peacekeeper there. The chemical attacks going on right when Assad's forced were on the winning side and pointed out at the ones who liked Assad is clearly not his own doing, thinking otherwise is quite retarded.
Precise weapons would be semi-useful during full-scale war, cause Soviet forces were quite large.
An once again you are taking example from capitalist Russia, not the communistic one.
Local population had grudges against capitalistic side too. Take for example Poland and how VERY reluctantly French and UK were fighting to protect it against Germany (that's the main reason why it's quite antagonistic to the EU modern trends such as taking up refugees from Africa). Other Warsaw countries that didn't like USSR would rather go nationalists, than capitalist - they would not switch sides and if anything (in worst case scenario for USSR) they would create they own side.
SU had several minor military conflicts with China and in ALL of them significant Chinese fores were stooped by few soviet ones and their concentrated artillery fire. SU proved to China that those skirmishes were meaningless and while China exploited the Japanese advisors that rebuilt China' economy on a promise of getting a share of those companies- they dealt with those capitalists harshly and have sent them away. USA worked against itself by establishing economical connections with China. China will always be on it' own side and will be quite proactive to weaken the ones it don't like the most and it's not communists (or it would annex North Korea long time ago)
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@RottingIntellectYT Adequately, my ass. Despite receiving a majority chunk of lend-lease and literally starving their Indian colony to the death of millions of indians.. British islands still had starvation of their own. Rations were hard to come by and civilians desperately wanted for peace to finally come.
When it comes to military - Germans threw all they had at soviets while rest of allies met minuscule resistance. If beaches of Normandy were properly manned and not by some leftover collaborator Czech and Polish troops - allies would met the same fate as British landing in Ottoman's galipoli in ww1.
The most casualties were suffered by soviets at the start of the war, when typical German behavior was to surround them by superior numbers, force capitulation then exterminate at the death camps like the rest of 20 million soviet civilians. From the 1942 forward no such event happened so the most experienced soviet soldiers were majority of ending force.
France is a Homeland of the Revolution, my dude, can't comprehend why'd you consider them loyal to British and Americans instead of Soviets. The home of people that exterminated their aristocrat parasites viewed soviets much more favorably than the rest of the allies. Also Greeks were quite letdown that it wasnt soviets who liberated them , but allies... that then proceeded to crackdown on socialist majority there, uhuh. Polish uprising was nationalistic in its nature, soviets didn't want to change one sort of nazis into another one, what a surprise.
Regarding the manpower shortages - sure, US had reserves to spare and at least money extorted from British to pay such. Still, the battle-hardened soviets were used to fight with lack of resources under their belt while the most patriotic movies about American marines (i.e. elite forces) portray such as pussies that whine about lack of toilet paper.
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@ОльгаВнукова-р5ы агась, за голоды 1822, 1833, 1842, 1873, 1883, 1891-1893, 1902, 1912, - тоже комуняки виноваты, маня. Не то, чтоб каждые 10 лет приходил тихий полярный лис стабильно в царские годы до этого, ага..
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@bonnie7898 it was.... after it was conquered from Khazars - a semi-nomadic tribe who moslty were pagan and whose elite were Jewish... reminds me of something, but oh well. Regardless, the shift of power towards Moscow happened when Kiev was burnt to the ground, cause, ya know, the cities were mostly wooden at the time. No big deal, Russians rebuit the city later on, as they did with Moscow too.
The first coins so-to-speak of the slavs were metal mugs of bizzare patterns used in necklaces, as with many other tribesman. They could have whatever printed on them and served both as currency and as decoration and they appeared long before Ruric and establishment of Rus.
Minting coin, whatever you want ot imagine for yourself - was a sign of having metal, not a sign of statehood.
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@denniskrenz2080 Lmao, they wanted what? Bogdan Khmelnitsky uprising against Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was due to him being cucked by the priveleged nobility of such. Cossacks were perfeclty fine as long as they were well respected. Also, they sorta had zero industry by default and couldn't produce anything except of their traditional agrarian goods.
The territory was constantly depopulated by Muslim raids of pro-turkey slavers, duh. And it was settled several times by Russian peasants. Furthermore, you sorta ignore the fact that there is not single Ukraine, but lots of such, like Gray Ukraine in Russian Ural mountains where millions of Ukrainians live peacefully. The fact is - Russian Empire used them as borderlands and called them a borderland. They served the purpose of moving it's borders or just protecting such while the country of Russia grew around them. You could compare them with mercenary companies - they didn't need state of their own, just inflow of cash, participation in military campaigns to get somehot loot and not to be bothered by authorities.
You'd probably need to read some books about cossacks, trully fascinating stuff, especially their tolerate-hate relatioship with Jew traders that provided them with everything that they lacked (long story short, when cossacks had money - they didn't haggle and overspent it, when they didn't have money - they just took what they wanted and beaten up traders if such complained. It was critical for Jews to understand when their clients had money or didn't and approach with their goods appropriatly)
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когда власть теряет легитимность все внешние обязательства теряют свою силу точно также как внутренние, легитимный властитель Украины скрылся в России, пошедши прямо под руку Владимиру, когда страны уже нет, а последний законн правитель у тебя, то это мягко говоря законный повод прибрать вообще всю территорию себе к рукам.
Эта влась не была бы свергнута, потмоу что эта власть сажала посла америки в кресло президента во время переговоров и активно питалась за счёт личных передачек от американских и европейских политиков. Вы про "арабскую весну" слышали что-нибудь? Не, если б на Украине были иисламисты, то да, возможн в итоге они бы пришли к власти, что мягко говоря было бы ещё хуже для то же России.
Власти не оформили легитимность, поскольку выборы не прошли в двух регионах страны, власть не оформила легитимность потому что - смотри выступления Порошенко "их (ДНР, ЛНР) дети будут сидеть в подвалах. а наши дети будут идти в школу 1 сентября!", власть не оформила легитимность потому что начали разваливаться даже соглашения с западнйо европой после того как националисты продавили ущемление в правах нац. меньшинств (румын, молдаван и проих русских) а на возущения украинскиие полтики визжат что нарушений нет, власть не форила легитимность потому что - смотри пиздец с бывшим грузинким президентом ставшим рупором нынешней оппозициии.
Какие блять страхи, когда у НАТО нет офиициального противника, но лезут они почемму-то в сторону России? Какие блять страхии, когда вывод из крымских баз эффективно уничтожает саму возможность оражать морское вторжение с юга без многомииллиардных затрат на возведение доков для кораблей на побережье? Какой блять империиализм, если это НЕПОСРЕДСТВЕЕННО ГРАНИЦЫ НАШЕЙ СТРАНЫ? Ты ебанутый? По твоему агрессивные русские понимашь коружают своими границами базы НАТО?
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@looke3392 a few, from political and economical to military ones. For example, since it's not a war - there is no question why Russia keeps on paying ukraine to get it's oil to Europe - YUP, that's deal is still going despite anything, cause muh money. Secondly, since Russia evacuated it troops from Kiev - the Ukraine has a border directly with Russia at the north, yet there is no proper military action on it, only some drones action and partisan groups form both sides. Again, kinda unthinkable situation during proper war. Finally, by not declaring a proper war - both governments can pick and choose what emergency measures they implement in their respectible nations in an effort to not alienise their own population by absolute and total authoritarian control they'd be forced to ensure otherwise, though it's lees and less applicable to Ukraine which is focusing on making it's population as disposable cannon fodder.
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@zlbm0 situation overal was fucked for soviets and sure enough, kulaks made it only worse. Kulaks were not competent or productive, lmao. The term literally translates as "clenched fist" 0 imagine a loanshark or a mob-boss that either indebted or beten into submission his fellow men while the Civil war was ongoing and there was no authorities to clean things out. That's who kulaks were.
Soviets redistributed food the best they could among each citizen, still millions of ukrainians, russians, kosaks and others died due to severity of famine and extra bad factors, sure. Are you one of those people that think that only Ukrainians needed to eat? The fuck profit get into your equation? - is that a Freudian slip of a cleptocrate?
Oh, yes, noble other nations that interviened in their ex-ally territory and either chopped the heads of those who didn't bow neough like Japanese occupation forces did, or outright built death camps in Arkhangelsk for communists - like UK occupation forces together with Americans did. Such good guys couldn't possible do no harm and were absolutely in the right by denying helping starving civilians that you ourself apparently so much care about. Lmao, what a joke you are.
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@PUARockstar Russian regular army? Nice delusion, but if they did fight there from 2014 forward, then they wouldn't be so ass at fighting at the same region from 2022 forward, duh. Wagner was created to fight in Syria, my diude, was you blind at the moment? DPR indeed employed people from abroad and Russian governrment was more than happy to kick out all sorts of radicals that wanted to fight for the underdog instead of messing with Russian affairs. The most infamous Strelkov was ww1 LARPer and a monarchist, a person who have no place in modern Russia, uhuh. Might also surprise to you, but the Eastern Ukrainian regions are ethnically Russian (if not for all of Ukraine) so yes, a few family members came from Russia to help their relatives. Keep your delusions about graves of active duty soldiers to yourself, though.
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+Ernst Klaus для явно хуёво знающего историю своей немецкой Родины Клауса замечу, что во время первой мировой король Николай 2приходился двоюродным братом королю Наглии Георгу 5, который приходиился двоюродным братом германскому императору Вильгельму 2 и все трое выгллядели как тройняшки, но по какой-то "мистической" причине войне это никак не восприпятствовало.
Серьёзно, Маня, то, что Ким Ир Сен служиил в сталинской гвардии это вообще ниочём, тем более стоит помнить как СССР и тот же Китай рассобачились после смертии Джугашвили и союзниками строго говоря больше не были никогда (именно тогда началось противостояние в азии когда Китай начал подгребать под себя одни государства, а СССР - другие, что в конце концов вылилось в ту же короткую войну Китая с только что освободившихся от понаехавших янки вьетнамцами, которую китайцы позорно слили).
Германия сейчас одно из самых левых государств Евросоюза, тот же кризис с беженцами - нужно быть слепым, чтоб считать что решение кормить их от государственной сиськи (и пилить на этом бюджеты помощи) принимали правые, так что повизжии мне как остатки советского режима выбрасываются из Германии. Сейчас в Европе вообще разворошенный улей ебанатов деляющихся на явных нациистов и социалистов клокочет, причём социалисты у власти находятся и вовсю хуесосят нацистов вроде тебя по всем СМИ.
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@ Советский союз (частью которого была Украина, между прочим и лидерами которго были и украинцы вроде Хрущёва, если вы забыли) официально 17 раз правительство Афганистано просило вмешаться и помочь против исламистских повстанцев спонсируемых штатами - от того и вмешались. Да, это была ошибка, да наломали дров, но вмешались по просьбе местных. Почти также поступили с Украиной, спустя 8 лет мольбю о помощи - вмешались таки на стороне пострадавших от бормбардировок Киевской хунтой. Поздно, надо было сразу же в 2014 пока украинская армия представляла из себя ничтожество, - не играть в дипломатию, а бить американскую марианетку. К сожалению Путин оказался слишком мягок для этого. Ну ничего, до конца этого лета точно додавим фашистскую мразь.
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@Daxter609 nice western propaganda, crapitalist. Gulag system did exist, like the penal system exist in USA, so? Criminals should all be freed by your deranged logic? Also, it's funny how degenerates and neo-nazis try to push a fake narrative that only Ukrainians suffered from naturally occuring famine (that was not a new thing for Ukraine, duh, like the famine of 1891) in USSR, Kasahs suffered a lot more, and Russian suffered too, but nah, it was Just Stalin wanting to get less food on his own table, eh? Quit your bullshit.
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@ZIEMOWITIUS well, not only that. Him pardoning half of gulag prisoners lead to extreme rise of violence on soviet streets, cause those people were rightfully imprisoned. Furthermor,e he led the corruption clique that undermined equality measures to grab more power for themselves. He led the way to the CIA funded dissidents that spilled trash on Stalin's name (to reinforce his unlawful taking over - you see, Stalin had a designed sucessor - Malinkov.. nobody remembers him cause he was quickly got rid of by Kruschev's gang), but didn't consider that they'd spill shit over communism as a whole and about him too untill it was too late and fairytails of ebil communism spred. He also closed down the Stalin's programs that ecnouraged small businesses, closed down on constuction of monumental buildings (that serve to this day due to their unprecedentent quality). The braindead approach of raising corn everywhere led to the severe damage to agriculture (despite Kruschev originating from Ukraine, the breadbasket of Russia, he knew shit about anything) etc. Krushcev had 3 grades of grade school, under his belt, by the way.
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+Dima S советский режим провалился начиная с Гласности (заткнуть рупор собственной пропаганды и дать народу слушать пропаганду зарубежную ожидая что это принесёт какую-т пользу, да) одного меченого мудака.
Режим на Кубе таки справился с своими проблемами (большая часть которых лежала на экоономической блокаде с стороны США), Северная Корея не смотря на взвизги "мировой общественности" живёт на дотациях по ядерной программе Ирана вполне успешно, вон даже туристов пришлашать начали.
Хотя лучшим примером является конечно Вьетнам (а вы про китайцев подумали что скажу? Эти нацистские мрази только поганят красное знамя), проведя свою полику НЭПа,
Можно вспомнить также про скандинавскую модель, сочетающую в себе как социализм, так и капиталзм - Дания, Исландия, Норвегия, Швеция и Финляндия. В те же профсоюзы там входит не менее 50% пролетариата, высокие (до 90% от заработной платы) пенсии и расходы на образование с медициной, еслиб не навязанные Брюселем (совершенно не желающие интегрироваться) нигеры вообще было б неплохое место для жизни.
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lol. What if I say to you that there was 2 revolutions? The first one was against the indecisive Tsar, the second one was against the indecisive government that didn't end the war with Germans? The Civil war started cause of lots of reasons and one of them was rise of nationalism in states of Empire. Ukranians killed Polish and Russians, Polish killed Russian and Ukranians, Finns killed Russians, all while Reds (commies), Whites (Russian nationalist backed by intervention of other countries), anarchists and Greens (local warlords, criminals and corrupt officials) killed each other for the control of those part of the country which weren't affected by minorities' nationalism. There were two major concentration camps on Whites side - the first one was the Japanese one at the Vladivostok (far East), the second one was British one at the North (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-41271418). Your ignorance in that subject while trying to blame soviets on all of it disgusts me.
Secondly, oh, yeah, famines of the Ukraine, guess if was fucking perfect in tsarists times there, eh? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_famine_of_1891%E2%80%9392) You fucking illiterate scum, who don't know what he is talking about. Man-fucking-made, yeaaah. It's not like the fucking region is infamous for it's catastrophic famines and the Soviet one was the last one cause they enacted measures to prevent it from happening again. Trotsky said those words that you citated FUCKING PRECISELY cause it was not fucking the first famine and Russian people experienced those things in tsarist time to the extent that it was common to them.
Go educate yourself you hilly-Billy before minding other's business. Piece of fetid shit is what you are.
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