Comments by "voteZDLR" (@voteZDLR) on "Bloomberg Television" channel.

Well, they literally just told you guys. Next step, live ammunition. Jesus Christ. Pray for Hong Kong.
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@StandFast1611 If you took that as me literally asking Jesus Christ to pray for them, you're an idiot.
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the Tarkov in me is like "they're not even wearing L3 vests"
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He's going to go down as a martyr. Which is a good thing, it definitely isn't giving Putin and Co. what they want but the sad thing is he's probably going to be dead before the end of March. And not just dead, like he will be tortured to death and then they'll come up with some lie like "Oh he gave up like a coward when we finally kicked his door in" when they actually kidnapped him and took him to an undisclosed facility to be tortured to death, then they'll kill every single person in the immediate area who can contradict the story. It sucks but I genuinely do not see how Ukraine is going to win this war. Not by themselves anyway.
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What are they gonna do? Use their best Zerg strats against us? That's literally the only advantage they have, meanwhile there's a strategic reason that the US has taken such an interest in Hong Kong. It is definitely primarily rooted in the humanitarian crisis, for sure, but just like we are using Israel and Saudi Arabia as hubs in the Middle East, Hong Kong will give us a hub in China that we can use as these relations get potentially colder and colder and colder. What we lack in the numbers China has, we make up for it in quality. We have the best, most well equipped military in the entire world, and if a trade war is contentious I think an actual WAR war would go much differently, especially when they see four or five of our eleven (compared to China's one) aircraft carriers. And we can put them just outside of Hong Kong, each one a literal base in and of itself that can sail around as needed strategically while launching fighter jets and bombers. It won't get to this point, in my opinion, but yeah we're going to see a lot of feet stomping and temper tantrums from China. A lot of threats, a lot of gesturing and beating the war drums. Make no mistake, though, if it did come to bloodshed, that would be nothing short of the beginning of World War 3.
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@crystalb4694 Yeah because we've seen them do that at every riot in recent memory. The hell are you talking about? China's basically all but said they're about to consider using live ammunition instead of pressurized water cannons and tear gas, rubber shotgun pellets, etc. Batons. The US would do all of those things, too, during riot situations. But they'd never use live ammunition on peaceful protesters. I think if people were shooting arrows at the cops then maybe that would constitute a threat to shoot back at, but beyond that, no shooting their own civilians is something China would probably already be doing if there wasn't so much attention on it right now.
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Our best looking women look better than your best looking women, who all look and sound the same. I guess that's one of the problems with living in such a homogeneous society like China. You all look Chinese. :') That's not to say there aren't hot looking Chinese chicks, there are, I just would never bother because you're all insane.
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@rabbitbobo4131 Yeah, our cops carry guns and occasionally have to use them to defend themselves. If you think our police are going around killing peaceful protesters every time people riot in this country, though, like... it's clear you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. The US isn't perfect but we're far better on human rights that fucking China. Like, there's absolutely no debate in that regard with anyone sensible. Cry more, oh by the way stop upvoting your own comments. That's really f 4 g g y. Some ph4gg0t shit. You don't want to be a ph4gg0t do you? Just cause cops carry guns doesn't mean they're mowing people down with them everyday. You've heard fluke stories from cops who either were using just force or they end up losing their jobs and/or go to prison in some cases for doing it. Shut the fuck up you whiny Chinese cvnt. The US isn't saving you from this one. @Crystal Boehler name one instance of a modern US riot or incident otherwise where police were shooting at unarmed peaceful protesters. Name just one that isn't WACO or the one protest that happened at a University during Nixon's era. I'll wait. BTW those cops didn't get away with that. They got prosecuted for that, as well. :-/
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Have you heard about the suicide nets they place around all these various electronics factories in China, etc? Yeah, the people there were so miserable working for virtually zero money in terrible conditions that they actually had to put suicide nets around the building to stop you all from plummeting to your deaths. I think if you're a rich person in China you probably have nothing but love and adoration for your figureheads, but for the most part people in China are living miserable, deplorable lives, and it's pretty telling that you HAVE to use a VPN just to facilitate this conversation we're having right now. Otherwise it's not something your overlords want you to see, so they have a censorship program that the soviets and Nazis would drool over.
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@teamtwiistz It's only a coup if we are trying to take over your country. We're not. We do have interests there, though, just as we've had interests every other place we've entered warfare. You're operating under the idea that we somehow "lost" all those campaigns just because we lost the war. We pick our enemies just as much for things they give us to hate them for as much as we pick them based on ulterior interests we have. When it came to the situation in Afghanistan, you have to realize we didn't get into that expecting to actually beat the Taliban. We just wanted to occupy the territory long enough that we could protect our oil interests as well as the poppy fields (the opium crisis has been fueled almost entirely by Afghanistan, and that's one of the jobs of soldiers there -- protect the crops from the Taliban who wished to burn them all down). "Capitalism and liberal democracy are failed systems" yeah so failed that you and your oppressive communist dictatorship regime have taken all of the bits and pieces that convenience them from them with China on an economic level being arguably more capitalistic than America, even, but when it comes to human rights and rights in general among other things like censorship, etc... China's communist insofar as it likes that it can stomp on it's own people and control every aspect of their lives, but when it comes time to buy the SUVs that have completely ruined the atmosphere and overall breathability in the most industrious regions, you're more about making a fucking dollar than the US is.
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Which is ironic considering they are communist when it comes to policy and how they treat the "lowest of the low" (completely flying in the face of what communism is supposed to be) but when it comes to all things economic they have come to have a great, healthy appreciation of capitalism as well. This effectively has allowed them to become the strongest slave state in the world. It's literally everything Animal Farm was trying to warn us about happening over there, up to and including the idea that the PIGS eventually became "more equal than the other animals in the barn, but still comrades of their fellow animals who they victimize and control on a daily basis". It's proof that communism has never and will never work, human nature will always get in the way.
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They're getting really, really dangerously close to bloodshed at the very least. Once gunshots are fired then it's going to be a human rights issue, among other things. They're going to need support.
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@henrymcbark7337 Some people in China have it really, really good. But more people in China have it really, really bad. And I mean it's not like there's not poor people in America, there IS poverty here as well, but the idea that we're censoring people on the level China is is preposterous. These guys are only able to argue with us because they're using a VPN, YouTube is banned in China for the average citizen. And they have their own special version of Google, as well, with all censored material removed. What you're talking about is their proposed social credit score, where yeah they're basically going to decide how good or bad of a citizen you are based on a variety of superfluous factors. And yes, they absolutely are using North Korea as something they can point to and be like "See? We're not THAT bad." No China, you're pretty goddamn bad. North Korea is just worse. Our version of poverty is guaranteed minimum wage at even the worst of jobs like McDonald's. Their version of poverty is working in a sweatshop on iPhones that Americans can buy (and frankly they're more affordable, and in a way we're guilty because of it, because we are profiting from China's slave labor). It's not technically slavery, they're making a few cents an hour, but it might as well be slavery. But yeah I think this conversation with China has been needed to be had for a while now.
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@teamtwiistz Well, educate us then. Tell us how your country is still a communist country when there is a clear disparity between the haves and have nots just like it is in capitalist countries. Oh wait, you can't. Gee. How about that? SMH commie boy EDIT: LOL he blocked me. What a creampie
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That's not the worst of it. China makes 80% of the world's medical supplies, including PPE and medicine itself. I do believe they stocked up on all these items as a result of the trade war with a plan to infect their own people then lie about it for long enough for these people to be allowed to travel abroad -- especially the United States. They did harm their own people first but it was only to spread this virus. By the time we realized what was going on, the WHO was lying about every single facet of this virus for two months. Only finally did they circle the wagons and were like "Sike this has been far more contagious and dangerous than we 'previously imagined' this entire time now." and this was at a time when we were terribly unprepared to deal with it, masks became impossible to find. Etc etc etc. All this while knowing China did this after preparing for it themselves, they were stockpiling for months ahead of it. This was on purpose.
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That will never happen under Trump. I think the most you're like to get is support from the Americans. They may expedite your visa process, if that's the case, but honestly think about it, would you rather do that or stand up for Hong Kong and fight back? It wouldn't be the first time America has basically intervened when it comes to the interests of Democracy. It's not like we're doing very good relationship wise with China right now anyway.
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@JChengZhang Meh, China's just doing it on a more egregious level. Looking at your name, it's funny you're even trying to justify it by comparing yourself to such poor countries. Proving my point. But no, China's doing it on a much, much darker and more evil scale. I do appreciate it though. Affordable new devices and shoes are a great thing. It would just never happen in my country. And I am grateful for that :) "The friends I have in Xinjiang have told me of those education bases." Do tell us more of your privilege. What rank in the party are you, and blink twice if you need help.
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Our button is bigger and shinier than yours, and unlike yours we know for a fact ours would hit. We're not insane enough to do that though. Nobody wants a nuclear war, least of all China, when you really think about it, cause I can't think of a better way to take your advantage in numbers and even that playing field than by dropping even 10% of our arsenal of warheads. Like, we're talking the great equalizer here. Don't talk nukes, we don't want anything at all but you don't wanna get into a nuclear conflict with the USA right now.
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@jackytang3683 And yet... at heart it's a communist country. Right. Some other clown in another thread is talking about how democracy and capitalism have failed when it seems to be not only completely embraced by the most "communist country on Earth", it's arguably more capitalistic than America is at this point. Sounds to me like communism is what's failing, and I think what's going on in Hong Kong as well as the US response to it is proof that if anything communism has failed. It's in the US's best interest to keep that momentum going, but even if that fails and it probably will, we have other interests in China and they couldn't have given us a better reason to put moves in motion to secure those things.
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So a lot of people don't realize the history behind this. Hong Kong is part of China, they have a deal though that they're to be absorbed into the communist aspect of the state by a certain year. I don't think that'll happen without a war. They're basically a democratic territory but they belong to a communist dictatorship they are just sort of doing this charade that they're not this entire time.
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Why is it the US's job to come fight your battles for you? Maybe if you had more oil deposits or strategic resources we needed we'd consider it, but right now our relationship with China is too good. We need your slaves to make us affordable iPhones, but we are growing more and more disgusted by the way you're treating Hong Kongers. They're not coming here, though. You might should consider live ammuntion after all. (Don't really, by the way, unless you wanna see just how many countries besides the US are horrified by what's happening in HK right now)
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@dangbear5933 I don't believe in any globalist conspiracy theories. I do believe in rich/powerful people working together in backrooms to effect change in the world, yes, but I don't think China and the US are greasing each other's palms in these backrooms right now. That's just a little bit too tin foily for me.
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@teamtwiistz It's hard to say if they really wanted to beat them or not, I think there's a strategic advantage to having something like them around if you really think about it, but our main interests were simply to occupy at the time. Period. Not to defeat the Taliban, even if that's what they were saying was the goal. Meanwhile, it just wasn't being put in the faces of the people, otherwise if the news was covering the war like they were back during Vietnam it'd probably have had to end a lot sooner. They learned their lesson back then, and yeah the state of our own news is not that great either. It's just not censored news, so still better, but yeah like they're not gonna be talking about wars that have been going on for over a decade you know, let alone wars that would be won. But make no mistake, if another Adolf Hitler came around, they'd formulate a strategy to actually defeat you. Go ask ISIS. They're a shadow of what they were before, but again, it's easier to fight an enemy in uniform than it is to fight "sheep herders in Afghanistan". We took that threat as seriously as you make it sound. Don't act shocked. Second comment, TL;DR. Whine on, commy-capitalist boy. Whine on.
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@teamtwiistz Again, we're not trying to take over China. I don't know why you keep harping on that. As far as an enemy in uniform vs. an enemy not in uniform, we're talking the difference between the PLA and "sheep herders in Afghanistan". We take one a bit more seriously than the other, obviously. We're talking hypotheticals here anyway. As in, "China vows to respond to the US's new laws" -- ok. Do what, exactly? Blah blah blah, you're a good little Zergling. I am sure they will factor that comment into your social credit rating. LOL It's less of a war and more of an occupation, when it comes to Afghanistan. You act like that's the only one we were involved in, too. SMH. Yes, I'd rather have the state of my country's news than yours. You get only state run news, unless you use a VPN and hop onto all the different options I have as far as informing myself. I get access to all the news in the world without the need to use fucking TOR to get it, including news from your own country, but I don't bother because it's about as propagandistic as North Korea's own media which is fucking hilarious when you have the time and want to watch it on your VPN version of YouTube. China's got a bigger economy on paper than the US does. IT IS more capitalistic than us. Jesus Christ, you're brainwashed. LOL how are you going to do that and still have class systems, like there's rich people and poor people, but we're communist? No you're not. You're divided into haves and have nots, just like the fucking United States of America, when it comes to money and resources. And actually the dark side of Communism enters the equation when we realize that the have nots in your country are nothing better than glorified slaves. Which we've not had for nearly 180 years. China is the most hypocritical country in the entire world. And I come from America, so that's saying something. But at the end of the day, I'd still rather be from here than from fucking totalitarian dictatorship communist Red fucking China. So, yeah, you have a slave economy with rich people and poor people BUT is not the spirit of communism to SHARE the wealth? Of course it is! But it doesn't work, has never worked, and never will work. China is as capitalistic if not more than America is, the only difference is we'll tell you straight to your face and everyone else in the world that we are capitalistic. As long as there is a class system with rich and poor people, then at the very least it's not really a communist country, is it? Jesus Christ, stay brainwashed you fucking tool LOL I'll be sure to report that you were a good little commie to your overlords though.
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@teamtwiistz I am very sure that the literature has been re-written many times to bastardize the meaning of what communism is meant to be. Here I am talking to someone who believes that they have what was the best economy in the world but they're not a capitalistic country. They're in fact communistic, even though it completely doesn't resemble what a communist country is meant to look like. I am very sure the rules have been re-written to trick the gullible and the powerless in your country to thinking it's equitable. But I've made no qualms about the kind of person I am talking to. My only compliment is your English is better than my Chinese, but that's because you've been forced to learn my language and not the other way around. Mine is the language of capitalism and of business. Something your country has realized it's far more fruitful to be a part of than to keep chasing a false communistic ideal. So now all you have is a country where they've kept the controlling aspects of communism with the complete lack of emphasis on human rights, but they're also now using people in their factories essentially as slaves to make products for people like me in the West and you've made a fortune doing this. Off the backs of slaves in the "lower class" aspect, the Hellish part of this completely equitable and communistic society where we're all supposed to share everything. What a joke. Do me a favor before you fuck off, enlighten us all here then if your country is still communist in the sense that everyone understood communism to be in it's original inception and controls more GDP than the Godfather of capitalism itself, the USA, while off of it's lowest class citizens like slaves to do said enriching of themselves, explain to me how it's communist then when resources are clearly not being shared in such a way that people in Hong Kong are desperate not to join your shithole of a situation? Explain it, then, how China has completely changed the definition of what communism actually is, because it's not a communist country in actuality, not by definition. But like every other instance of communism they DO change the rules, they do write new literature that makes it sound like it's a fair deal to all the uneducated people that are victimized by it. Who wouldn't know any better because they aren't ALLOWED to? You tell me, commie boy.
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@eric4802 People bitch and moan when we do that, though, and Trump's run on a position of trying to like end the conflicts we are in, not take a literal fight to a country he's already in the middle of a trade war with. But now all of a sudden it's like "Oh my our crooked government is out of control you HAVE to come help us!" oh NOW you want help. I doubt you'll get it, sadly. Unless of course an American journalist is killed as collateral damage or something during the protests, or maybe just outraged they'd use live ammo on peaceful protesters at all. Bows and arrows and rocks and petrol bombs aren't traditionally considered "peaceful" though. If it does happen make sure it's filmed, capture horrific enough images and video is my advice because it's gonna have to get really bad for us to get involved, and we'll likely not come alone. I doubt it though.
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You do know who is our president, right? The US isn't coming. Not personally. The best you'll get are maybe guns, ammo and kevlar but secretly. Sadly this is something you have to do. They have guns. You don't. I don't know what you're planning on fighting them with, and to be clear this is one of the main reasons we will never amend the 2nd Amendment (the right to bear arms/guns) because if your government ever decides to lose its goddamn mind you aren't going to be able to defend yourself properly if all you have are rocks and petrol bombs.
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@rabbitbobo4131 They won't let you in, go ask the convoys at the bottom of the border who are seeking asylum as well.
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I remember when Covid was a hoax, now he's talking about it it and the subsequent cure he was given like he found an old bottle of Quaalude's from the 80's in his attic or something. Also, in the meantime, he was running on this narrative the entire thing was fake while holding these rallies... and having people sign waivers stating that they can't sue the Trump campaign if they end up getting coronavirus themselves.
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@kyneo2441 I guess it just doesn't matter as much if only because Iran has kind of always been doing shit like that whereas China we've had a reasonably warm relationship since Nixon with, it's been very much of economic interest to us, but at the end of the day it's a communist nation. It's really shown the hypocrisy of communism as well, considering it's become more capitalistic in China than they'd ever like to admit. Well, those with money, and the entire idea that in a communist nation there are richer people and poorer people at all is evidence that it doesn't work. We'll never see eye to eye. If Democracy is what Hong Kong wants I'd encourage Trump to do everything in his power to help them.
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@kyneo2441 You're right, the USSR realized it could never stay afloat as a legitimate communist nation so now you're "just communist enough". Hypocrites. If your development was a threat to us, why are so many Hong Kongers begging to be let in to America right now? It's just been convenient to us that we basically quietly profit from your country's slave labor, or else iPhones would cost like $5,000 or something. It's a mutually beneficial relationship so far, but probably won't last forever. That has nothing to do with our prospects of intervening against China NOW for Hong Kong. It's just not happening anytime soon.
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@kyneo2441 Yeah, sounds kinda like a riot to me. They're not doing it because they love you so much, they're doing it because they're desperate not to be integrated into the Hellish system that is your social stratosphere in China. There's a reason they had to put suicide nets around all of the factories. Let me tell you, it's because they're completely satisfied with being exploited for slave labor. We were a powerful country when we had slaves, too. And we still are, we just haven't had slaves for 170 years or so. Everything I've seen about it so far though shows your police being extremely brutal, they're just responding to brutality with brutality. I can't believe this is such a shocking concept for you to grasp. BTW your president really does look Winnie the Pooh, kind of like Trump looks like an orangutan. I can say that in my country without needing a VPN, as well. Isn't that neat.
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@videosdinder4870 TL;DR. Again, nobody was killed during the Ferguson protests, not by cops or military. I have no idea where you are getting that. Someone died during the protests itself, one person, but they weren't killed by cops. So from that standpoint, you should get YOUR facts straight, you keyboard warrior fuck.
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@videosdinder4870 Yeah well that was also different, there was mass looting and people were literally killing each other. Also, yeah, we actually have guns here, some of the protesters were engaging in firefights with cops. It's within the rights of law enforcement to shoot back if being shot at. Also yeah like Waco that's considered a sour note in history, besides those riots were racially motivated. You don't have the slightest idea of what racially motivated conflict is in China, when everyone in China is fucking Chinese. But yeah, riots are riots. Most of the deaths during that particularly awful riot were at the hands of the rioters themselves, another reason the police stepped in with deadly force. Do understand the difference between peaceful protest and the fucking LA riots. Apples and oranges. As far as Ferguson itself, though, one person died during the protests IIRC but it wasn't due to law enforcement. At any rate it's never state sponsored killing, if cops use force unjustly in this country they will be charged and prosecuted for it. If they're deemed to have used force justly, they're not prosecuted. It's far from what they're mulling in China right now where Beijing will give the OK to use lethal force and there will be no due process as a result whatsoever. THAT is the difference. We've never had a case of peaceful protest where the government has authorized lethal force.
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@videosdinder4870 Yeah we all know how fair that match up is. Your sports bows and arrows vs. our military equipment. I'm surprised your oppressive government even allows them to have those, they'll probably be banned really soon along with Winnie the Pooh (he really does look like that bear pants-less though). Anyway, how many of them actually even have bows and arrows? And besides, you can't really equate the firepower of a gun and simple hunting weapons? Not like you'd know, you've probably never held a gun in your life. Unless of course you're one of the tyrant police officers over there "keeping the peace". At any rate by the time someone is liable to get a good shot, a lethal shot, in on bow and arrow they're likely to have already been shot dead. Not a fair match up, when you think about the grand list of things they have at their disposal. Rocks, petrol bombs, and bows and arrows. What a joke LOL
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@videosdinder4870 Nobody died during the Ferguson protests. Not killed by cops, anyway. I guarantee your government told you that and then they were like "Go look it up yourself!" and they give you the censored version of the Internet to confirm it. No, nobody was killed by police during the Ferguson riots. That you think so explains everything. ZOMG storefronts including Starbucks are damaged during riots?! Holy cow! It almost sounds... like ... a RIOT or something! No, those are rioters, peaceful protesters are out there as well, though. The US Senate just unilaterally passed a resolution today that vows support to Hong Kong. US may be getting involved even sooner than I imagined after all :-/ bet your beloved CCP didn't tell you that, did they? I swear to God it's eery, do you only say these things out of fear you'll get black bagged in the middle of the night or do you actually enjoy your totalitarian government controlling every aspect of your life? Make slaves out of you and all you can think to do is thank them while sucking their dick. LOL Stockholm Syndrome at it's finest.
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@haiyayu479 Brainwashed in what way? In which way am I brainwashed that you're not? All you get is state run news. You think that's telling you the truth? They won't even let you access the entire Internet without a VPN. I get access to news from all over the world. I'm not brainwashed. You are. Clearly.
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@haiyayu479 Nope, it's pretty much unilaterally in perpetual SMH mode looking at the way HK's people particularly the youth are being treated right now. As if them acting out came outta nowhere. As if.
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@crystalb4694 Molotov cocktails and bricks are commonplace during US riots. The only difference is bow and arrows, but honestly, I think there's a huge tonal difference in what's underlying what's happening in Hong Kong right now vs. the mood in any other riot that you could conjure up, from Ferguson to the LA Riots of the 90's. The people in Hong Kong essentially are sick of being Chinese and they're a few organizational steps away from beginning the process of seceding, or they'd like to anyway, it's just they don't have anything they can reasonably fight back with EXCEPT for bows and arrows. We've not had any Civil War-esque riots in the US since the mid 1800s but I mean one day we'll likely get that pissed (maybe when Trump loses and/or wins 2020, God forbid though) that we'll be bringing legitimate weapons to the riot like guns of which we have no shortage of. At that point it's more the beginning of a Civil War than a riot, though. Also yeah if the government was actively floating (publicly, mind you) they were about to begin using live ammunition, that wouldn't make me more likely to put my bow and arrow away. To the contrary. If it's all I have to defend myself, it's going nowhere. So yeah, it'll get worse before it gets better, sadly.
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@PHOEBE_LOVELY The US doesn't use live ammunition against rioters or protesters. Oh nevermind I am guessing you're one of the oppressors, seeing your name. No, as bad as the US is, we do not use fucking live ammo on rioters. Tear gas, rubber bullets etc., yes, but not live ammunition. That's some dictatorship shit.
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@PHOEBE_LOVELY Nope, I'm gonna pray for the rights of the protestors and Democratic values. I am not saying Democracy is perfect, I am saying that I'd rather live in this country than China though. So would Hong Kongers, apparently. Maybe you ought to... you know, let them. Or what are you afraid everyone else will run away from your shithole anti-human rights regime? I bet it's nice for the most esteemed comrades, of which I am guessing you are one. Not so much for everyone else. :-/
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