Comments by "voteZDLR" (@voteZDLR) on "VICE"
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OK, whether you think this is horse shit, or whether you may even be moved by some of the "pastors" here, the end result, bottom line is this:
19:26 -- watch from this point.
The guy with the tattoos is a drug addict. He's doing something or another, but he's also realized evangelism is one of THE most profitable things somebody can do. In America at least, it's all tax-free to run a church.
The other guy, the more straight-laced one, he's no better. Contrary to what he says he's doing though, he IS running a pentecostal service. The people who go and probably pay for his services don't realize this, but he's taking advantage of stupid, weak people. Like every other major religion on the planet.
But honestly, a lot of these television or "pop" pastors -- they're in it for the money. Duh. Tax free AND a dumb clientele to boot? I'd say count me in if that wasn't a completely evil thing to do. Think about that.
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@mindblowing8672 Cancer and fever are not in the Goetia.
You have no idea how it works, and you never will as long as you are looking at it strictly through the lens of Jesus.
I haven't been sick in decades but I just have a good immune system. You probably do, too. We're talking about physical infirmities vs. spiritual entities.
What I meant when I was posting my original comment is that there IS a right way and a wrong way to do things. King Solomon who likely "invented" all of this to begin was one of the greatest and most benevolent kings that ever existed. He actually received a divine message that gave him the instructions to not just "interact" with the demons, but to literally bind them to his will. You do not become subservient to the demons when this is done well, the demons become subservient to YOU.
Everyone approaches it differently. Some confine the spirits to a triangle, others do not. It's probably in their best interest to do so, but by the time you are even beginning to dabble with these spirits you will have the aid of your holy guardian angel as well as a litany of other methods of protection. It should probably not be attempted by somebody who hasn't devoted at least one year if not two or more to serious spiritual study, particularly when it comes to white magick and using other means to protect yourself. If you approach them and you're unready or too weak to control them or even interact with them, then sure yeah you will get possessed and bad things can happen. Hence me being worried about all these people on YouTube, some of whom seem more responsible and knowledgeable about it than others.
Anyone who practices the occult seriously I will add also believes in God. They do not necessarily believe in Christianity or any other mainstream, organized religion though. And anyone responsible about it like I said is not only well in tune with their holy guardian angel, but they also work with angelic spirits as much if not more than they work with demonic spirits. They are two sides of the same coin and one cannot exist without the other. But above all else is God, who is neither male nor female. God is infinite, and is the divine source from which everything originates.
The occult itself isn't by itself an evil thing. Yes, you can do evil with it but karma is also a thing. If you do evil with it, you will receive evil. Wiccans for instance believe in the rule of three, that if you do evil you will receive evil by a magnitude of three times of the action you performed. It all comes down to what you do with the knowledge you obtain. You can use a hammer to kill someone but that doesn't make the hammer evil. That makes YOU evil. You could just as easily use the hammer to build something, and that is the difference.
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XuQifei I understand WHY they did it. My guess is the actual cheers weren't enough for their production. I still find it disingenuous, though, especially in this case. Why? Because this form of "wrestling" is disgusting. There are absolutely no redeeming qualities about it. Not in my mind, anyway. So I mean seeing the entirety of the crowd that was there before the match began, I can't help but wonder how few must have been cheering consistently. They padded the sound effects for a reason, it must not have been as full sounding of a crowd as the producer would've liked it to be -- but again, there's probably a very good reason for that (some were too horrified to finish watching, let alone cheer at it). You would expect that kind of deceit from Dateline NBC, not the raw, candid honesty with which VICE made a name for itself. If people were too horrified to cheer, there was a time that they would've left that much in the final product.
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venus baptiste Proof on the origins of AIDS, like actual scientific proof or keep the tin foil shit to yourself. I think something is wrong with the brains of homosexual people, in the same way some people are wired to steal, lie, or even fall asleep compulsively. I don't think they should be persecuted or have their rights stripped or anything, I also don't really care what they do as long as it's consensual behind closed doors. And as long as they're being safe and more importantly if they truly are gay then I hope they come out and fuck other men if that's what they want to do. As long as they're not potentially contaminating the pool of women or otherwise dirtying up the pool for the rest of us, the majority who have the desire to put our body parts where they were more obviously biologically designed to go. You can either put it in a hole that doesn't naturally lubricate itself where it's main biological function for all creatures is to transport the waste products that the body generates. You know, shit. OR you can put it in the hole that DOES lubricate itself, I mean our bodies didn't come with instruction manuals or anything but it seems pretty obvious that it's the one that nature would prefer you use -- beyond your own selfish and carnal sexual natural predispositions where you have sex for pleasure, nature would dictate you do whatever is necessary to ensure the survival of the human race. To be clear, THAT's nature. It's less that I don't care what they do and more that I realize that that's just the way they are, whether we agree on the fact that their brains are broken like those found in kleptomaniacs or any other compulsive disorder is a different matter, but I don't think it should be pushed in school as a natural practice, certainly not on the same level of normalcy as straight sex. But regardless of where AIDS came from, lastly, there's absolutely no question that it's transmission is more prevalent in anal sex than vaginal sex, for a lot of reasons. Therefore, it's more prevalent in homosexual sex. So if you're queer, wrap it up for your own benefit. If not for your own, then for the benefit of the human race.
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Botanist 95 yawn. Because we all know the woman above is the authority on everything, as are you. Life expectancy compared between our two countries is negligibly small. And what do you mean "Fuck AJ" he's made a fortune off of pushing these bullshit lies that seem to have you all convinced hook line and sinker that "the elites" are actively killing people here by what "they" are putting in the water. Again, each municipality is primarily independently owned and operated. The idea the big bad federal government is doing this, if anybody, in a country like the US is preposterously stupid. The big bad poison-water monster! No, some cities are just too poor and/or they had poor planning like 90 years ago when they were actually installing the infrastructure. Lead pipes have been around for a long, long ass time, it's not like the federal government is telling them what pipes to use and not to use, either. But I will be sure to subscribe to the whack job lady above's crackpot conspiracy theory newsletter. Acting like they're pouring cyanide in the lakes actively. It's doing a wonderful job, by the way, our old people are just as old as yours. Get your head out of your ass, focus on the things really worth criticizing in America because there are plenty. But the "poison, evil water there on purpose to kill people" OK where are the corpses? Fucking morons.
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The way he describes his method towards the end, like... if you are at all interested in great speakers and the (perhaps obscene) amount of power they can wield for being good at it, like... well, it IS like witchcraft. Just as he says. In a way, it's a magician's trick. There's a great book you can read written by none other than Socrates himself called Gorgias, which is an pre-Christ manuscript that details the power of people who are simply able to speak well and move people as their main skills, which are the oratory skills, their bread and butter, and how they pay the bills (people who speak for a living, especially Politicians) versus those who are in positions of actual expertise who may not have the same speaking skill, who deserve perhaps more respect for they are actually better at doing things whereas the speaker is good at only getting what he wants and often from a position of NO expertise. It's pretty much the problem we face in modern political situations I think a lot of the times especially nowadays all over the world but it can apparently also apply to a defense attorney who would on a better day have gotten an admitted murder off scot free if it had only gone more "his" way. So I dunno. I do think people are entitled to great defense but the moral quandary and over-arching question that all people who are not familiar with the law will always complain about is that not everyone is defensible. How could you defend someone that everyone "knows" is guilty like OJ Simpson? Well, they'll tell you that it's better that 10 guilty people go free if it means that 1 who is falsely accused may also go free rather than face punishment for something he didn't do. It's something organized crime feeds on our society for and yet it's also the reason why we at least still have some semblance of freedom although those civil liberties and freedoms seem to be vanishing faster and faster as time goes by.
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Botanist 95 I did some limited research and found out England has poor cities, too. It's not all socialistic, or whatever. As far as cities having untenable drinking water... that's literally just Flint. It's because of severe mismanagement on their part, but that's not uncommon for Michigan cities in general, Detroit is also notoriously bad. Just depends. But in your own country, it's not like it's a socialist country or anything where every city gets the same funding. It's really not that dissimilar from the way it is here, it's just smaller while also having more socialist elements without being outright socialist. But nah, if you wanna live in a nice part of any country, move to the nice part of it. It's not a problem unique to America, if anything there's more rich places here than anywhere else in the world, so take your pick. Or don't.
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It sounds like a Ponzi scheme to me. It has all the core necessities required by such schemes:
For example, you come into it seeking money. In this case said money is "debt".
You pay a $400 fee to get into the program, then you must do "education" which is really just a fancy way for them to cover your eyes while they jingle and jangle around, but this is only important because they require that time must pass and that atonement must be "earned" through, in large part, your money (ironically) and your time.
Scientology is also known for this, on a religious level, but they do it on a much, much larger and more nefarious scale.
But then you have the people who the money DID come through for, or so they say. It may have, but they were probably in for a while before these "revelations" came to be.
Some of them were probably just paid off with money he was getting from NEW members (see Ponzi scheme definition) so they not only are feeling validated that it works, but they're going to tell their friends as well, and those same people may join themselves only to be further along down the track.
He'll make it work for the people who got in earliest, in a nutshell. And because it works, they believe it. And they make others believe it. But at the end of the day the scheme will not work for everyone, eventually there will come a day where they all will demand "we all want our debts erased now, too! Or else, we want our money back!"
They won't be able to get it, there won't be any more money at that point to give.
This is a classic example of a Ponzi scheme, in other words. Just at a much, much smaller level than Bernie Madoff's was (the biggest in history).
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daz samuels Maybe, maybe not. Regardless, people are always going to use drugs. Whether it's through, or around, the law, it makes no difference. Addicts will get their drugs no matter what. It's just a matter of whether the law forces them to buy it from some shady fuck or from a pharmacist. And truth be told, a lot of your experiences with drugs may also have been directly related to the cut in the substances. Heroin, for instance, in it's pure form, is ironically not even THAT bad for you. It's the cut in the drugs that makes it worse. Yes, there is a risk of overdose when dealing with pure heroin, but it's not dirty like Black Tar or even what's nowadays considered "good" Heroin. In fact, pure Heroin is completely clear, not the dark black shit that addicts are unfortunately pumping into their veins.
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These guys have serious balls to do this lol... I mean, it's true, 99.9% of the world will never get to actually go inside of North Korea. And if you DO, if they don't like you, they'll even make up a crime or something that you did, and you'll wind up in one of their gulags/prison camps -- no trial, nothing. And there's nothing your country will be able to do to get you out. They're keeping one American right now, I'm pretty sure. Guess he bribed the consulate, too. This is truly an amazing documentary, but like I said, they're crazy for attempting it in the first place lol
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***** Sure, like WWE level pro wrestlers probably not only have greath health insurance, but some of them may even have insurance on individual body parts. WWE is a multi billion dollar company, CZW said it themselves, they're lucky to profit from the show alone usually like 5 grand, that's per each Tournament of Death. Look, it's not a lot of money. Yes, it's the more amateur level, but ... still, there's better ways to "make it" in mainstream wrestling than mutilating yourself in the short term for a crowd of 1 thousand people. For like, who knows how much or little money. I don't know the path to that since I am admittedly not the biggest wrestling fan in the world but the real money is ironically in the more tamer versions of the sport, I notice.
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venus baptiste Well, whatever, agree to disagree then. If you don't detect logic in anything I said before then you won't detect logic in what I have to say now. I literally said I understand that it exists but I mean let's just be really honest Gonorrhea does not equal HIV/AIDS and Hepatitis C. And it is much riskier. Anal sex practiced by anybody, gay or straight, is far more dangerous than vaginal sex. Period. Look it up. It all has to do with proximity to blood vessels, because it is transmitted by blood, and the anus as it is not designed to endure such punishment is very, very fragile, and is bound to bleed. That's why if you really must engage in such behavior, wrap it up. The only probably more risky behavior a human being can engage in as far as contracting serious blood-borne illnesses is engaging in IV (intravenous) drug use and specifically sharing your equipment, needles and spoons and/or all. So yeah. I am not comparing most human beings to murderers and I am not comparing most of them to thieves. The murderer part came from the other person justifying homosexuality because it exists in the animal kingdom. Which is a really bad argument, for so many reasons. The tendency for individuals to lie compulsively is me simply saying some people are born with that, too. Not all, not even most, but some. And I can say the exact same fucking thing about the gays, too, because not all, not most, but some people are born with that predisposition too. It's in such minor numbers it can only be explained as a deviance from what is otherwise normal behavior.
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@Reub3 I mean it is one of those situations in my mind anyway that it should warrant the board to investigate anyway, he found this one small clause that vaguely in his mind gives him permission to do what he is doing (theft of property, let's keep it 100% here) by some obscure "537" clause in California's animal rights protection clause. Vague being the keyword.
His actions are on camera now anyway, the same thing I think he legitimately believes in his mind will protect him, going in there and saving those animals where maybe 50 in 5,000 if not even more than 5,000 overall were dead as natural living things tend to do from time to time -- die.
I understand his position but at the same time I think he's out of his fucking mind if he thinks he's ever going to get people to ban killing and eating animals. It's absolutely bizarre, and he's using Malcolm X methods to do it, at least Malcolm X did what he did in the name of the benefit of the oppressed in the ranks of MANKIND ITSELF. This guy doesn't seem to get that all of us including his ancestors survived as long as we all did because we discovered very early on that the flesh of animals could sustain us. A miracle, really, if you think about it, then figuring out how to cook it etc.
I mean until the day a deer or buffalo can build a skyscraper or even strike a fire of their own, UNTIL that day I will always hold the position that we are the superior race and honestly as long as the animals are not wantonly mistreated it is absolutely unfair for anyone to say Hey 1% of us don't like this, you must all stop it immediately or else we will FORCE you to.
No, this guy has gotta go, if only just to put it all into perspective where society's position on the issue and how his position can never, ever possibly work, especially as long as he is massing hundreds strong militias if you wanna call it that to come steal people who absolutely did nothing wrong's property. The only reason they did it anyway was because they knew it was being filmed. They literally think it's gonna lead to a good outcome for them.
No, it's gonna lead to a 60 year jail sentence for the ringleader, because that is exactly what he is, for sure, especially if they throw the book at him for it.
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Yeah, well it reminds me of this guy I know, an older guy, he's run a few restaurants in his day but ultimately found most of his success as a lawyer. His passion has always been food, though. Restaurants. So he ends up spending $1+ million, just about all of his savings, trying to start up a restaurant near his retirement age and unfortunately he found he couldn't easily do both. His law practice tanked. The restaurant failed because he spent too much renovating and didn't charge nearly enough for the food (somehow he had no business skills). The food wasn't bad, but not nearly as good as he still imagines himself being as a cook today. He didn't cook the food himself, he had a full time chef, but some people don't belong in the restaurant industry AT ALL but they think they do, and it's a delusion that can cost you a lot in the long run. This lawyer I know won't be retiring till he dies, most likely, and it's all cause he blew it all on a pipe dream he couldn't afford and had no business taking part in to begin with.
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This kid's family are great. They make all the difference in the world, more than anything else in his life, especially schools and the culture they inherently embody. Because he was not only allowed to, but encouraged and accepted to, participate in this activity, very well actually literally may have saved his life. Not saying all people with Asperger's or Autism are similar or characteristically capable of doing such terrible things, but that kid who did the Newtown situation had Asperger's as well. The difference being that instead of his Mom and Dad getting divorced and then giving him guns to play with, this kid's parents allowed him to use oversized soft-noodles to fight with and the confidence to actually get out there and socialize with people who share his interests. I don't care what anybody says, being a loner isn't healthy, even for people who particularly enjoy their quiet time. Privacy is one thing, completely isolating one's self is bad.
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***** ZDLR = Zach de la Rocha, who is the frontman for Rage Against the Machine. I've had this username for like 8-10 years now, and it's never changed, although I would never vote for ZDLR if I had the option today (he's in favor of radical socialism, which seemed much more appealing to me when I was a kid) but all the same, it's my username now. And it has sort of come to mean something else to me personally for that reason alone, and for others I am sure as well (I am pretty sure that most people don't know who ZDLR is, although I think you're the first person who actually ever bothered to ask).
But yeah, it IS depressing. If you're smart enough to see through the smoke and mirrors and question things, you are in the 10% of the population of this country capable of critical thought and being able to vote. Back in the day, you used to have to be a white landowner to vote -- I disagree with the racial aspect of that since I've met plenty of intelligent black people and plenty of moronic white people, as well, but the landowner part is what's most important. In doing so, you would vote on behalf of yourself and everyone on your land, in theory, and more importantly to own land you'd have to be in the higher-tier of mankind -- the landholders. That takes a certain level of intelligence, it wasn't just anybody and everybody who was able to vote. That's the way it is today, and it's a dangerous idea since I bet if you gave people a simple poll on the basics of who they're voting for, about half of them wouldn't get above a C+ or other relative score on the test. Many would fail altogether. So you literally have people who DO bother to vote, but don't know what the hell they're doing. That's going to be the downfall of Democracy, and why in my opinion the older form -- the Representative Democracy -- is much better for the people and the world in general.
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***** Interesting points. So you're from Europe, then? Those of us who are paying attention are keeping a pretty close eye on Greece. It will effect you guys sooner if they leave the Eurozone or if any number of things happen with them and their economy, but it won't take long for that to affect the rest of the world either, due to the fragile (and insane, honestly) state of the world economy as it has been changed by capitalism and other socioeconomic experiments. I honestly think the biggest mistake any of our countries have made at this point is adopting a centralized economy that is entirely dependent on, and hinging on, a federal bank for it to work at all. I am certain this affects Europe as well since the IMF is running the show for all of us, but as it stands now in America it's literally impossible to completely pay off the "debt" we're creating. Not only is the amount just disgustingly and astronomically high, but the way it stands, because of interest, there's never going to be enough money in circulation to pay off the entirety of the debt. What that means for us when our creditors start knocking down our door looking to get that money back (again, with interest) I really don't know. If you divided it by all of the citizens in the USA, the debt comes out to like $55-60 per citizen. For those who can't pay their share, I shudder to think what will happen. Maybe debtors' prisons, or maybe something far worse. I don't know. But getting back to the original point, I do personally believe in a lot of Libertarian principles myself and I believe big government is much more detrimental to people than they even realize, which sounds moderately similar to what you were saying.
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***** It's pretty bad, Google the US Debt Clock. It shows how many millions of dollars are being spent, per second, and where those dollars are going to. The United States spends about 50% of it's annual budget on the military alone, which I believe is more than any other industrialized nation combined. It's ridiculous, and it is. It's terrifying that it's gotten to such astronomical levels. Many people here don't even talk about it or seem to realize it's going on, that or they don't want to think about it. Things definitely do seem to be taking a turn for the tyrannical more and more, left and right -- but you look at problems in Mexico and other places with Drug Cartels, etc. -- a simple change in policy in the United States would force those criminals out of business over night. In other words, admit the drug war is a failure and legalize all drugs, whether you intend to use them or not. It sounds crazy, but honestly the fact is people are going to do drugs no matter what -- illegality has never stopped people from consuming substances before. But the flip side is it's funding violent terror and costing us a ton of money, this is just one area the USA and other developed nations could really turn the tide on criminality and even terrorism, and then treat societal problems like drug abuse and poverty and crime in an environment where most of them aren't involved in drugs and other forms of crime to begin with. I can think of a number of ways we can solve these problems, but at this point the USA at least is in a very, very serious financial hole that I honestly have no idea what the outcome will even be when all is said and done. Money is owed to somebody, and they will come knocking for it one day or another.
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daz samuels That's an interesting point. Yes, I can see that happening, between the point of them announcing that legalization is on its way. Some dealers would probably make as much as they could by selling product with more and more cut, and that could probably lead to a spike in deaths. The other problem is the government is going to tax the shit out of it, so there may still be a huge black market because they're able to get the unregulated garbage for a better price. That being said, I have no reason to believe that legalization is going to be any more or less harmful than the way things currently are. I mean, slap a warning label on the side of the product like they do with cigarettes and alcohol. Can't say they didn't warn you. But at the very least you know it's a cleaner, safer, product. I don't think your theory is a good enough reason to keep things the way they are, especially since you are suggesting that it's better because we have "plausible deniability" so long as it's still legal. That's nonsense. The net benefits are going to be much higher than the downsides, because no matter which way you look at it, people are dying left and right AND going to jail. Having their lives ruined in one way or another, and it all costs the taxpayer indirectly in other ways. At the very least decriminalize everything so they can focus on catching the real criminals. If they legalized the real thing then there would be no reason to buy the synthetic crap, unless you just happen to be an idiot. You'd much rather live in a society where you have to go through shady people and deal with shady situations for people to procure their drugs. I am sorry but I couldn't disagree with you more. By the way, please stop responding in several parts. There's an edit button for a reason.
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daz samuels Regardless of what your perspective on drugs and drug usage is, to think that just because you have had personal experiences that were bad (with illegal substances) and just because you now have this moral, SJW attitude about it, doesn't mean you can just snap your fingers and people will be like, "Oh, OK we will all stop immediately". If that was the case, the drug war would have been won years ago. The fact of the matter is, people are always going to use drugs. They always have, they always will. To combat it by keeping it illegal has never worked, if anything it's only given rise to stronger and better criminals and criminal organizations. With alcohol, it was basically the beginning of the modern day Mafia. With other drugs, we are now dealing with cartels that, because of illegality, are now pulling in billions and billions of dollars by peddling substances that have an artifically high value because of their illicit nature, and because of that, South of the border we now have cartels that are actually stronger and better equipped than the Mexican military. Those who do choose to remain in law enforcement, most of them end up going corrupt and working with those cartels. The ones who do not go corrupt, end up quitting the military and/or the police force and joining up with the cartels themselves because the money is far better in an already poor country. So now, on top of all the problems with the drugs themselves, we are seeing some of the most vicious organizations the world has ever known. Beheading and torturing children, in some cases, all because the profits from illegal enterprises are so good. There's one organization in particular that's really scary, Los Zetas. They're a drug cartel made up in large part of people who are ex special forces/military and are using that training (as well as military equipment including helicopters and RPG's) to basically do the opposite of what they were doing before when they were in the military. To just wish the problem away is completely unrealistic. The real solution is to admit that human beings like drugs, and will always like drugs, and so long as that's the case if there's a demand for it -- there are people in the world that will take advantage of that to criminal effect and get filthy rich. I can't think of any good that's come from this drug war.
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***** That's true, the blood situation is exaggerated for the "spectacle" of it -- and it's just as one of the guys in this documentary even said, it's worse for the viewer in a lot of cases than it is for him, himself. That being said it does make me wonder what all kind of paperwork goes into something like this, especially how frequently the athletes must undergo blood tests. If any of these guys have HIV or Hep-C it's like... the risk goes up when dealing with open wounds like this. That being said I don't think every football player, even running backs or whatever, have to deal with blown out knees and concussions ALL THE TIME. Yes, it happens, it happens way too frequently in fact, but it isn't like it's for sure going to happen to every single football player at some point or another. And even then I would posit that it's somewhat more acceptable, not just socially but for them on a personal level because they're also oftentimes making millions of dollars a year with great health insurance, among other things, so they can deal with the aftermath of a life long-lived by the risk and reward of bloodsport. These guys are either not very bright or are just in it exclusively for the passion and exhilaration of it, I can't imagine any of them, even the cleaner-cut looking guys, to be making any more money than would allow them to live in a nice-ish trailer, maybe. They're not making that much money.
OH and lastly one guy almost did die during a Deathmatch, one of CZW's Deathmatches actually. Cut his side open after a stunt with the light bulb tubes went wrong. He literally died on the table for a few minutes but they were able to bring him back. Thankfully.
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venus baptiste Dude, this is fucking YouTube. Everyone has an opinion on anything, why even waste recreational time watching these videos? If the comments section isn't there to talk about things that you care about or believe in then I don't know what it is there for. I never said it didn't affect me I just said what my parameters for acceptance were. Namely, behind closed doors, etc. You were there for as much so I don't see any point in rehashing and re-explaining my positions, again. What started this entire argument was whether it's natural or not. I think by simple virtue of the fact that without artificial components the sex is virtually impossible at least without causing terrible damage to the body over time. Incontinence, things of that nature. Yes, people do it, but if it was so natural you'd think it'd moisturize itself. Otherwise it could fall into arguably a form of self-harm, particularly the one on the bottom. So no, agree or disagree with it but without this life of modern luxuries it wouldn't be as possible or even practical. It literally requires the existence of stores to facilitate. There's nothing natural about fucking stores LOL. So I mean at least give me that much, these are just people who feel a certain way in their minds and figured out a way to make it happen, cap'n, so to speak. There's no way it's natural. Read the above again and again if you still don't get it, I have made it as clear as I possibly can.
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venus baptiste For the last fucking goddamn time this argument was started by the other person, about how "natural" homosexual is as a human practice. You never mentioned animals, the other fucking dumbass did. I am the one who mentioned children, because having children and reproducing is all part of the natural circle of life. I don't doubt that there are more heterosexual sex offenders than homosexual sex offenders. That only stands to reason because there's more heterosexuals. Hello? This isn't fucking rocket science. The rest of your argument starts getting a little wonky, more heterosexuals are involved in violent crimes? I would ask for a source on that but you haven't shown me sources for anything else I've asked for so I already know you're not going to do it, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say that there may be more heterosexual crimes AGAIN because there are MORE OF US than the fucking gays. And I seriously doubt it has nothing to do with whether you like to take it up the ass or otherwise defile your own body for the lulz or whatever their reasoning is. What words of wisdom would I have peppered this feed with if this was about IV drug users? Are you fucking retarded? I am actually legitimately curious, are you retarded? This thread would likely not even fucking exist if the content of the video was about something else, but look man if I even so much as feel the simple urge to say something then I will. IF I have something to say, then I will. Always. Just take the L and move on, fuckboy, you're not even making sense anymore, trying to tell me how peaceful the gays are in your theoretical faggot utopia. GTFOH faggot
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***** I mean I don't see that me having any more or less time on my hands is a very good argument, either. We're both on YouTube. In the comments section. I think it's very safe to say we're both not being the most judicious with our time -- I'll also expand on that and point out that it doesn't take me nearly as long as you think it does to write my responses. Like, it could be worse is what I am trying to say. Not that you care or anything.
OK OK OK, so with that out of the way, I am getting really tired of the apples and oranges arguments. I am not the one who cited animals having homosexual fuckery as evidence that it's a natural practice that moral issues aside is clearly not natural. Clothes, not natural, but I mean we're not talking about clothes. You could say Skyscrapers and having the technology to go to the moon, among other things, anything developed by humans, that's ALSO not natural. But it also has absolutely fuck all to do with my point and if anything it only serves to bolster it even more. You're absolutely right, clothes do not naturally occur. Man what a profound thought, I would never have figured that out myself. We're not talking about that, though, we're talking about sex. You know, reproduction. You know, nature.
Surely you know the difference between a biological function and clothing or feats of humanity. I seriously hope you're not putting the feats of humanity and anal sex in the same sentence. Surely you're not. And where we are always going to disagree is just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should, and I mean I've already pointed out like 50 times now that I realize faggots exist and I don't think we should be making their lives hell or anything but I also don't think we should coddle them and tell them that porking each others buttholes with foreign objects in a space that without the marvels of humanity is just as safe as heterosexual sex (LUBE! That's up there with the eight wonders! /s I mean it probably is if you require it to facilitate the "natural" sex you're having but I digress)
I also conceded that straight couples have anal sex, too. I never said they didn't. I only said that if they wish to penetrate each other then their bodies are designed from the get go to do such a thing -- gays, particularly gay men, are not.
Fuck you, calling my thought process shitty. Just because you disagree with me my thought process is shitty? Lmao whatever dude, man however will I go on and live with myself if some random fucknugget try-hard fag sympathizer thinks my thoughts are shitty. Boohoo. :'( not
Again, I have already said as much, I realize they exist and their brains are the way they are and it's not even worth trying to change them, but as long as their risky behavior stands to threaten the entire population as a whole by simply adding more cases of AIDS in the world (you have to realize not all of them are protecting themselves properly or else why would they contract terminal blood-borne illnesses so disproportionately more) then I am going to take issue with the practice of anal sex as a whole. Please do understand that I am only attacking "the gay" because unlike straight couples who have a choice, gay men do not, from the ground up that's a degenerative lifestyle as far as the natural order goes. Now the only thing one can do is hope wishfully that "the gay" isn't hereditary.
Oh, by the way, "muh way of life is better than you and I hate you" because that's probably all you're going to read and it's also, categorically not what I said. That's just how you read it. Clearly. SMH
venus baptiste You know, I give you credit for not devolving your argument to that last, classic retort much sooner. That's one of the MOST faulty arguments when it comes to the fags, they almost always think your aversion to them is a sign that maybe you are gay, too. To so many of them it's never occurred that maybe, just maybe, I am being so critical and harsh towards their lifestyle because it's fucking disgusting to me. And it's just as disgusting when straight people do it, so believe you me it's less about gay people and more the lifestyle that so many of them lead.
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venus baptiste It does concern me, when did I say it didn't concern me? Why else would I watch it? We've been over this already. In fact I remember I specifically told you that I have acceptance parameters for it to the point that allow me to at least live with the existence of them. But I don't think it should be encouraged in school and I don't think it should be placed along side heterosexual sex. I get it, some people will deviate and gravitate to it, but the more impressionable ones won't go springing into the world thinking the sodomite subculture is normal or healthy. By itself without the aid of items bought from the store it's not, so however you feel about it, whether you agree or disagree, it's not natural. People with gambling addictions and eating disorders are also very troubled people but those are truly forms of self-harm. Sexuality is inherently about two people. Lastly it wasn't you who brought the animal argument into it so I will let that one slide, but you did certainly seem to agree with it when it was offered as proof by the other individual. My point is animals shouldn't be looked up to as behavioral standards or ideals, like I get it we're mammals and we have a lot more in common with animals than we would like to admit but I also think that as humans, sentient beings with intelligence, usable thumbs and the capacity to do great things I just absolutely resent the argument "animals do it, so it's k". So fucking what? Again, that's more directed at the other person who spoke before you but again, I digress.
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venus baptiste No, I don't feel the same about oral sex. Don't hear about people contracting life threatening, world plaguing illnesses from those. I mean, you can catch or spread other diseases that way but they're not generally world changing, life shattering events or anything. HIV/AIDS and other, more major diseases however are only able to spread via contact to blood. There are lots of blood vessels lining the walls of the anus, which isn't designed for receiving anything, certainly not with the potential forces that sex can involve. Bleeding can and does happen very frequently, whether it's visible or not. That's why condoms are beyond mandatory for it, I mean if you or anybody reading this absolutely must have that in their life, just be safe about it. Like, squeaky clean safe, and don't assume that others you're with are adhering to the same standards. EDIT: I know, you said you're not gay, I mean it more as in the more broad use of it meaning anyone.
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You didn't have to say it was the cure, you just agreed wholeheartedly with someone else who said it before you. I should certainly hope you two were being silly. Indeed. It doesn't affect you either (so you say) so I mean, I can reverse the same statement back on you. Why are you here? Does it fucking matter? No. Oh lord, here comes the racist comments. "Some spoiled rich white bitch" -- say what you really mean LOL wowww dude. I had a feeling you might be black, but I really don't care either way. AIDS affects everyone on the planet with reproductive organs, the risk of contracting it is there for everyone, but especially gay men, for reasons we've already discussed. It's a world problem, so by virtue of the fact I live on the planet it does sort of affect me. At least potentially. It potentially affects us all. I will agree the terrorist and mass shooting problem is pretty serious. It is also a societal problem that can potentially affect us all, God forbid. And yeah you better believe Trump is gonna be the most oil friendly president perhaps in history. That's Russia's #1 export and in the past few years oil's been in a recession. Saudi Arabia is one of the primary reasons that's the case, but I digress. I care about all of these problems, too. I don't see why the fact that we ran into each other here on this one video means that that's somehow suddenly ALL I care about. I never said that, I care about all of these problems and have opinions on all of them, you can find me talking about those and other world problems most likely on videos that are relevant TO those said problems.
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If only it was that simple. You'd be shocked how many people either don't know, or don't care, to use condoms. Oil is used for far more than just energy by the way, but yeah I actually was in agreement with you before, and yes there are some technologies we could be using at least for energy instead of oil but until the last drop is drilled for Big Oil isn't going anywhere. Oh, and when it does we're screwed because there are thousands and thousands of products that we rely on oil to even make. Shampoo being one that comes to mind. And plastic. Genius, I tried meeting you halfway with some of these other issues but you still insist after all this that the crux of my message is that all of the world's problems are caused by gay black men from the South, I don't know how many times I have to say it, or how else I even could say it, STD's like HIV/AIDS are only one of the major threats to the world today but not only is it affecting more people than just this one example group (although it does disproportionately affect them, again for reasons I've explained far too many times) but that's far from the only thing that endangers the world today. Yes, HIV/AIDS is not a death sentence anymore. If you are educated about it and get tested that is (if you can't bother to use condoms). Which if you watched the video you'll see is part of the problem, a lot of them don't know, and then still there are some who don't care. If you don't treat it and let it become AIDS your life is gonna be all the more hard. The point this video is trying to make is that a lot of them aren't treating it for a number of reasons. That's bad. But you can't seem to wrap your head around the concept that I care about more world issues than just this. This is just one of them.
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XuQifei Fair enough, I mean I have no idea truth be told entirely what goes on but I dunno, I just can't believe they couldn't simply record the sound in a more generalized way. Something more befitting of recording the sounds of, you know, a modestly large crowd of over a thousand people. I mean, I could be wrong but I got the impression a lot of those aerial shots they were getting were from a drone, so I understand they don't have access to industry standard equipment used to make feature films. Not to say drones are cheap or anything, I'm just saying they're not that expensive and in fact are game-changers in the world of filming I understand, when before you oftentimes needed a helicopter instead for similar shots. I'm just saying VICE is and always has been more "grass-roots".
But my other thing is this, like, you'd think the technology would be there to capture all sound faithfully from a crowd as well as film at the same time. If the crowd was not cheering at the parts where they inserted the sound effects... only if that was the case would I find it to be arguably disingenuous because of the documentary/journalistic/fact-based nature of the program itself. If nobody was cheering, they shouldn't just pad the sound with artificial cheers, it should be presented as close to what actually happened as humanly possible.
I do hear what you're saying though.
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The dad just kinda keeps his head hung low, sorta glancing slightly every which way. Almost as if he had farted, and while she was just yapping her mouth off about tangents and being accepted, blah blah blah, he's like... "does she ... does she smell it? glances towards camera-men ... they definitely smell it... oh Lord... oh, look alive, they're looking at you!" nods bashfully, then returns into his reclusive fear "they definitely smell it, they just don't want to say anything because it would be awkward"
After seeing this a few times, in all seriousness, it's funny, he doesn't say a single word. Not one. And it's hard to tell what his emotional state is, it's almost like ... well we know where the gene came from when it came to Jon's birth. He seems a little out there himself.
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By the way, the USA is absolutely in the throes of a terrible epidemic when it comes to opiates. We have the pharmaceutical industry and drugs like OxyContin manufactured by Purdue Pharma Co. to blame for that, in large part. And then when they reformulated those drugs to prevent abuse, what did people do? Switch to Heroin. Which a lot of people took up the needle for, exclusively, some out of necessity and some who simply didn't want to "waste their money" by smoking it. This is why as a society we MUST insist that there be needle exchange programs, starting with the hardest hit areas first. When needles get involved it becomes that much more of a societal problem, because it facilitates the spreading of serious, serious diseases like HIV/AIDS and Hep-C, among other things. With the drug problem being this widespread, too, you don't even need to be a drug user or a needle user to be exposed to it. Your boyfriend or girlfriend could be doing it behind your back, or could HAVE done it before you, or both. They could literally have it and have no idea or even have the inclination to go get tested. It's gonna get a lot worse before it gets any better. And regardless of your position on drug legalization, the idea that people are gonna be less inclined to use drugs because they have no access to needles is beyond absurd. They're just creating a black market for needles, which you oftentimes have no idea the full history of, and artificially inflating the price of what would otherwise cost pennies on the dollar. It's a hair away from being completely out of control -- educate yourselves, people.
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Well they made it sound like he had to jump through a shitload of hoops just to get the appropriate licensing or whatever, now that he has it I can only imagine that it's going to be similarly difficult for rivals to come in and try to compete. But like, it's a case of the original almost always dominating market share basically for the rest of time. For example, the WCW, then WWF which is now WWE is still the dominant brand after it basically was there first to cash in on the craze. Other rival organizations did come up, or tried to, but none were ever really able to compete with the original. Same thing relative to the difference between the NFL and the XFL (remember that?). THAT BEING SAID I can see Bare Knuckle Boxing's prospects going one of two ways. One, it will do extremely well, taking fans from UFC/MMA as long as they're given the opportunity to hear about it, which in this age of social media is basically a given, given that these new fans actually enjoy the heightened violence. Two, it will do extremely poorly, with fans already kind of on a "barely tolerating" UFC/MMA basis to begin with. I think women will be more likely to hate BKB. Men though, they're the ones who were really watching primarily anyway.
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It's actually pretty badass, I don't see anything wrong with it.
It's kind of like how professional football players used to not make any money, these guys now know the risks and they know how much they stand to make. So when they get injured, it's almost like an unspoken contract with the Devil. You made a deal with him, you know that at any time he can come collect, and when he does you can't even be all that mad besides you got what you did while you could.
Translate ALL of this over to the battlefield versus the football field, suddenly you now have guys as they pointed out when they get killed or captured, there isn't even so much of an emotional side effect from people beyond the person's immediate family themselves. They weren't someone who volunteered, no in fact those soldiers are SAFER because of these guys. I know it sounds crazy but I legitimately think some people love being in war. Like they said in that movie "Blackhawk Down" I believe.
Some people are self-described War Junkies. They sign up repeatedly for conflict after conflict not just because it pays, but because they love it. They love fighting. They love everything there is about the military, and being private not only increases your profits it gives you more control over that entire aesthetic and lifestyle. No standard government issue anything anymore, you use what you want. But yeah if you get killed or captured, don't expect there to be a national parade.
Overall, I think it's great for everyone involved and it frees up military personnel to stay at home and protect THIS country versus going anywhere and everywhere else. I mean ideally there'd be no war at all, especially in the context of American warfare which is so normal now it's almost pervasive. But considering we've now been in Iraq and Afghanistan for the better part of 20 years and there's really no clear end in sight, if this is the best solution to that problem then so be it.
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We're not talking about slander or libel here, though. It'd be impossible for that to occur because you don't know who I am, and I don't know who you are. But let's say for example I did know who you are, let's say you're a Nazi supporter and I have proof of it. SO LONG AS I have proof then I can actually say these things about you, and that would be in the pursuit of the truth which as you say is protected speech. Fair enough so far. Let's say I go around saying you are a Nazi supporter though WITHOUT any proof. Even if it was true, if I didn't have any proof to the claims and you decided to sue me, regardless of whether it's true or not, that speech would NOT be protected. But this is an entirely different area of the law regarding speech and it deals on a personal level. The fact that you have a bunch of people who don't know what they are talking about saying these shootings never happened, that there were no deaths let alone in some cases NO BIRTHS to back up the claims, it's a grey area but I would think that if any of the claims made by these truthers are actually false and somebody did want to sue for damaging their reputations they could. I think in large part this hasn't happened because a) lawsuits are expensive and b) conspiracy theorists/truthers are usually poor, not worth suing. Can't bleed a stone, that sort of thing. But no basically generally speaking "the truth" isn't necessarily protected speech, particularly when it comes to personal accusations and floating them in the press for the public to consume, but if you can actually prove what you are saying to be true (conspiracy theorists never can) then you can say whatever you want that reflects that truth otherwise. But if you just come out expressing the "truths" that you personally believe without any justification or proof whatsoever, if you come out and say Hugh Hefner is a Satanist and he molests children and animals without anything to back it up, Hugh Hefner then has the right to sue you into oblivion EVEN IF IT IS IN FACT ACTUALLY TRUE. So no, not all free speech regarding the truth is protected, if that was the case then there'd be a lot less powerful, deceitful people playing the game of life than there are today. Don't be an idiot.
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@NJtheawesome I guarantee it does sometimes. This is Canada you're talking about, year long, either way IDK where you are from currently but me personally I get aggrieved when I have to sit outside in the mid 40s. That's when I double up bundles to smoke. And that's about the only benefit you're getting other than having to share a piece of land with a bunch of freeloaders and shitbirds and varying levels of drug addicts.
There was a similar experiment done in New Zealand in the 70s where basically these people disagreed with the concept of owning land so collectively they all pooled their money and bought a piece of land with the express intention of making it so NOONE owned it. It was fine the first 20-30 years, but then guess what happens? Human nature invariably kicks in one way or another and people begin carving off more and more of a chunk of that pie for themselves. By force, usually. Idealism only exists in your head, in your ideas, but you quickly forget the meaning of idealism when you're hungry and/or you're cold, or maybe you're too hot, maybe you get tired of having to run to the local Wal Mart for even the most basic supplies that the rest of society take for granted now (you big shot campers you, LMFAO, roughing it... at Wal Mart).
Look you'd be better off getting an RV or one of these trucks people convert into living spaces in the back (lots of great videos about that on YouTube) THEN drive out there and live out of your vehicle. You may make a friend or two as well by being the only one with running hot water (if you have the sense to set your truck/van/rv up with such amenities). Make a trade out of it, oh wait no! That's too human naturey of you, much better to just give it all away for free, at all hours of day or night. Count me the fuck out, that sounds like a nightmare. lol
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@NJtheawesome 1) Don't give a fuck. Sorry.
2) Again, don't care.
3) Human nature is and has always been the problem with these idealistic experiments. The only thing that stays the same is that there's always morons saying the same thing "Oh well they messed it up, we'll do it right though! You'll see!" It may take 10 years, it may take 50 years, but whether it's communism or it's a little faggot camp in the woods in the middle of nowhere in Canada, dollars to donuts human nature will always get in the way of idealism, which is again just that, unicorns that fart rainbows and all those niceties etc. Remember, one scoop if you take a piss, two if you take a shit.
4) No.
5) Yes, that's why I like to live as close to the supply center as possible. It's in direct line with a deal that everyone in civilization makes, you will need to go to the store, the closer you live to it the better. The closer you surround yourself with the reasonable ability to use those amenities is even better. Taking an RV is something people have done already at Poole's Land, just saying, you laugh at it as if you're already mastering the art of removing dingleberries because you're more a landsman or woman or he-she or whatever the fuck, you're gonna really show the man by sleeping outside. OK, I said it before, more power to you.
6) What? Who gives a fuck?
7) Again, more power to you, I just think it's funny when I see all these people preaching about the simple life and attaching this superiority to it when really you're just living in a higher quality homeless camp (and that really is debatable considering Seattle is arguably the greatest homeless camp there ever was but I digress). And then they fucking admit they still rely on one of the largest corporate giants on the face of the planet, Wal-Mart, to get just what they can't out in the middle of fucking nowhere. Which I am guessing amounts to just about everything they need there, it's not like they have a blacksmith or something to make their tools. Certainly not the chainsaw Poole doesn't know how to operate.
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These poor dudes. Like they talk about it like "Oh well it's just a job. Doesn't mean I have to like it, but it's my job." and "If I had other professional opportunities, I'd do that instead of this."
You really think you can just submit a two weeks notice and resign from a job like this? It's blood in, blood out. There is no leaving once you're in. I believe them to a certain extent when they say that nothing bad ever happens to people who "don't deserve it". But who decides who deserves what? I think there's a certain level of naivete when it comes to this sort of thing, by the time you realize just how bad of a deal it really is, you're stuck. There's no way out of it, whether you win the lottery the next day or not. And if you're just a gunman, you're a pawn in this metaphorical game of chess. I wouldn't want to be El Chapo either, to be the boss, because you may just be another face in the crowd as a soldier but as the boss there's going to be higher bounties for you, whether they're law enforcement bounties or bounties from other cartel members. But you rarely see them out in the trenches fighting alongside the soldiers for a lot of reason. Their lives are more secure than yours in a firefight, and they will use you if you let them.
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