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@andy1way Ok I suggest not inhaling feces and even if you do, the the spike proteins in it do not contain the whole virus and there isn't enough of them to cause any reaction to other people. The whole idea is a ridiculous conspiracy, like saying you ate peanuts 20 years ago so your friend has now peanut allergy symptoms when you farted while running with him outside today.
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@pud295t "Harmful variants are more likely to be produced in immunized populations" Bs. What matters is the amount of suspectible hosts. Immunized population = low amount of suspectible hosts = less chances for the virus to mutate. "Natural immunity encourages infections to become weaker." Absolute rubbish. From the virus' perspective, natural immunity is pretty much the same as immunity from the vaccines. "An infection that kills the host is not going to survive natural selection" And if the hosts died after they had plenty of time to already spread the disease, there is no comparative advantage for the virus to let the host live. "Please. Apply common sense." When will you start? " If you are healthy there is no reason why you cannot develop natural immunity safely." Except the chance that you might die or get permanent damage in your lungs, brain or heart? And the chance of long covid is also much higher with natural infection and happens even with younger healthy patients, so you don't think that is worth trying to avoid? "I have antibodies 7 months after infection. I am a much better defender of the vulnerable than any vaccinated person." You don't know that at all. Some antibodies gained form natural infection offered 0% protection aginst some of the variants, while Pfizer offered 80% protection against them. So all you know, you have 0% protection against a variant from SA for example.
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Doesn't happen.
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@andy1way I'm suggesting person X can't get any symptoms from a covid vaccine injected into person Y unless they do some very strange things.
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He said the vaccines work, did you listen to the video?
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@pud295t It's vaccine phase 2 trial so of course it's being done by the company that produced the vaccine 🤦♂️ The rest of your waffle is just the same as before: your genetic and other logical fallacies because you have nothing of substance to say. You can't refute any of the findings in the study, so you believe your are making some good points here by you senile conspiracies about Bill Gates 🤦♂️ "I'd like to finish by observing that your tone during this exchange has been aggressive and offensive." Yes, ignorant people like you that endanger the lives of others sometimes cause an offensive response. You are like the drunk driver that complains when people don't ki** your a**. You and people like you are directly responsible for people refusing vaccines and dying because of it. There is nothing you can do to spin that in any other way: you and the trash you push has lead to people dying. I'm guessing you are likely some religious pro life wingnut, so it's kind of strange when you people promote life saving elsewhere but then cause the loss of life direct yourselves. "does not make your argument any stronger, or mine any weaker" I never claimed it did. But you claim a study is weaker because it has some links to Bill Gates. That is an obvious logical fallacy (genetic) and proves you have no logical thinking skills. You also concentrate to the tone of my responses, as if that was somehow relevant to the actual argument and data presented, another typical fallacy religious science denying hypocrites often make.
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@andy1way There is only a few spike proteins in vaccinated person's stool and pee for a few days after a vaccine, does someone eat those substances or how are they going to be affected by them?
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@ghwk-phd2784 That rubbish from Buram Bridle has been refuted, there is even a website dedicated to refuting those false claims. Antivaxers are so desperate for material, that they need to keep using stuff that has already been debunked? 🤦♂️
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@ghwk-phd2784 You just can't stop lying? It's not by big pharma, but by his peers: byrambridle dot com The rubbish from Malone is refuted also, he is basing his conclusions on a spike protein that isn't even made by the vaccines and a studies that was done in labs and animals not In humans 🤦♂️ And Ivermectin concencus? 😂 Is that why the latest study just a few days ago concluded: "In comparison to SOC or placebo, IVM did not reduce all-cause mortality, length of stay or viral clearance in RCTs in COVID-19 patients with mostly mild disease. IVM did not have an effect on AEs or severe AEs. IVM is not a viable option to treat COVID-19 patients."
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@ghwk-phd2784 "Sorry empirical fact is NOT irrefutable" So you agree with the meta-analysis then? "In comparison to SOC or placebo, IVM did not reduce all-cause mortality, length of stay or viral clearance in RCTs in COVID-19 patients with mostly mild disease. IVM did not have an effect on AEs or severe AEs. IVM is not a viable option to treat COVID-19 patients." " Empirically proven to cross the Blood-Brain-Barrier and accumulate in Vital Organs - " In rats? Are you a rat? The study that measured some stuff in humans wasn't even measuring the spike protein, but some lipid (fat) particles that are harmless🤦♂️
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And what does the iodine from algea do to people eating it regularly? There is a reason why Japan has the most Hashimotos disease. I will rather have my cod liver oil and occasional salmon/sushi.
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@alinaa641 You obviously don't know what most people would be fine on. Vitamin-d deficiency is very common, something like 40% of Americans are deficient in vitamin-d and they have a lot more sunshine than many other places in northern europe. Vitamin toxicity is rare even with higher doses.
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@ColinMcNulty "The fact is that consumption of saturated fat has no effect on blood cholesterol. " That is about further from fact as possible. Countless studies show consuming saturated fat raises LDL. "which in the case of atherosclerosis, means chronic inflammation of your arteries caused by excess carbohydrates." Is that why the people eating the most carbs, like vegans are the ones with least heart disease? How about the Okinawans, population with most people living over 100 and traditional diet was something like 80% carbs. How is that possible?
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@pud295t We don't dismiss well done clinical trials just because you don't like the company doing it. It's a vaccine trial, naturally the company is doing it 🤦♂️ There is peer review process in academia: the paper wouldn't be published if impartial professionals found something wrong with it. You can also refute the findings of the paper anytime you like and if you re successful, you can get the paper withdrawn. So instead of the genetic fallacy, try to make an actually valid argument.
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@jattnijjerable "Yeah and now oeopke jabbed are ill compared to non jabbed" No they aren't just as this video showed, you couldn't understand it? "Its experimental in the sense there is no long term testing nor fertility implications testing yet." Yes there is, more or equal amount of women got pregnant in the vaccine group compared to control so does not negatively effect fertility.
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Not a single case linked to touching packaging in the US? Well, kind of hard to establish that link, when the infected person can't exactly tell you how exactly they got it. You could have 20% of cases from touching and how would you ever know?
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@lekis5975 "Vitamin E and K follow common pathway used in vitamin D uptake so they may impose competitions for vitamin D absorption in intestine. This assumption was verified by a study on CaCO2 cell line which confirms the role of vitamin E in impairing the vitamin D absorption (reduced 15% at medium concentration of vitamin E and 17% at high concentration of vitamin E)" So seems there is no need to take D,E and K together and actually they compete so it might have a better chance of absorption if taken seperately.
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@JamesWetzel Practically impossible to get enough d-vitamin from food.
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Unless you live where the sun shines a lot all year long and you spend time outside without your shirt on, it's pretty difficult to get enough vitamin-d. One can get their levels checked with a blood test obvoiusly but I think in the US it's something like 40% that are deficient.
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@jmshrrsn As far as I know, there is also a lot of smokers in parts of Italy where people have long life expectancy. It doesn't mean smoking is good for health, it just means there are multiple factors that offset each other. The swiss cheeses in those areas are especially rich in Omega-3 like ALA that have been known to be heart healthy.
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Yes it is a good source of iron especially if you are deficient, but there are possible issues with red meat including heart disease from saturated fat and dietary cholesterol and a person can also get too much iron if red meat is something they eat all the time.
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You understand that every person takes in fat soluable vitamins pretty much with every meal they eat even without supplements and they don't end up poisoned even if they don't work out? Toxicity isn't that easy to happen, needs a high doses for long time to be toxic on for example vitamin-a or vitamin-d.
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@cylon5741 Yes, so what? Relative risk reduction is the only sensical metric to measure a vaccine as absolute risk depends on time and place. Absolute risk reduction would have been 0% at the time of trials in Australia with 0 infections, while relative would have stayed the same 95% in every place with even a modest number of infections because with the vaccine you have 20 times lower chance of symptomatic disease than without vaccines. Don't wast time spamming videos of some senile doctors teaching stuff that most people already understand.
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Concrete Head I can guarantee you practically nobody gets enough vitamin-d from diet so you obviously don't know what you are talking about. Best source is the sun and unless you live in the south and walk shirtless regularly, that aint helping either.
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I'm no doctor but iron(ferritin) levels are easy to check with blood tests. If you need more and are not a vegan, red meat is a good choice at least until levels are normal. Iron suplements can sometimes upset the stomach but there are multiple different types, I found one that didn't bother me at all but it was some type that was not typically in suplements because it was more expensive to make or something like that.
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@MountainParameters The 400 IU is some outdated nonsense. If you are worried get your blood tested to know instead of guessing, but I have seen doctors talking about recommended should in many cases be as high as 8000 IU so 2000-4000 IU sounds reasonable and is what I'm taking.
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@johncart2082 What I'm talking about is in a study, not said by some rep.
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@pud295t "In this placebo-controlled vaccine trial, we found that previous infection with first-wave prototype-like, pre-B.1.351 viruses did not appear to reduce the risk of Covid-19 due to subsequent infection with B.1.351 variants among placebo recipients during the initial 2 months of follow-up." = Natural infection offered 0% protection against the same variant Pfizer is something like 80% or over effective. " The Delta variant is successful because it is a milder disease" Delta isn't milder, less people are dying because the risks groups have mostly been vaccinated.
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@pud295t "like the well done clinical trial that we are all participating in now? " If you are just going to start dismissing science because you don't like the results go ahead, no thinking person is going to take you seriously. And yes, the trials we are part of are valid as well, I have nothing to complain about. "Why would natural immunity not protect you?" What does it matter what is the reason when the question is if happens or not? Stop asking irrelevant questions. Perhaps the variant is different enough that the immune system doesn't recognize it and perhaps the vaccine immunity is strong anway because it concentrates on the spike protein and that has not chanced enough. There can be countless explanations and it really doesn't matter which one is the correct one to say in some cases natural immunity was 0% when the immunity from the vaccines was very high. "Why aren't big pharma producing these vaccines at cost and distributing them to developing countries" Why aren't you giving all your income to homeless people and starving people in Africa? "The infection we are all obsessing about is endemic." No it's obviously not. "What use is being double jabbed and having a covid passport if 3 months down the line your immunity has faded. It makes absolutely no sense." If you think it's useless to have a have 95% better chance of avoiding severe disease, that is just your logic again. Sane people don't agree with you though and that is why most educated people are getting vaccinated.
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@pud295t "if this disease was severe I would be getting vaccinated, and advocating vaccination as the lesser risk." Stephen Harmon agreed with you, do you think he still agrees? "You sound like a pretty angry and unhappy person" And you sound childish, silly and ignorant. Exactly the kind of person that shouldn't be trying to psychoanalyze others over the internet. "I think your understanding of variants is a little confused. " What does it matter what you think? You don't understand things, what you think and can't demonstrate doesn't mean anything.
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@pud295t And my comments with links are deleted by YouTube, don't know why you would you be asking for the link when you could have simply Googled with the text and found the article: "Efficacy of NVX-CoV2373 Covid-19 Vaccine against the B.1.351 Variant" in 5 seconds. I guess this says something about your research skills, if even finding a source with Google using the actual text was too much for you.
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"Your optimal daily protein intake depends on your weight, goal, and level of physical activity: from 1.2–1.8 g/kg if you’re sedentary all the way up to 3.3 g/kg if you’re trying to minimize fat gain during a bulk." That article is based on some 134 references. I don't know where the 0.8 idea comes from and why it's still being spread if the actual studies show it's far from optimal.
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@MrGecros google the Examine article on optimal protein intake for the details and references.
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@jibjubby "That article may have cited 134 things" Thos "things" are called studies. "The only factor which determines how much fat you gain, during a bulk or not is how many extra calories you ate. Nothing to do with protein. " False as the studies show. Macro ratios also matter to an extent. "The 0.8 number came from science, 1.2-3.3 came from an article you read which speaks gibberish." The 0.8 is the outdated number refuted by current science which the article listed 🤦🏼♂
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@jibjubby That is how science is done: publishing studies and those lead to the truth. When dozens of studies independently arrive at the same result, that is reliable evidence of something. You are clearly a science denier who doesn't know what they are talking about.
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@jibjubby The article summarizes 134 studies in the field. Your "nuh-uh" doesn't begin to refute any of it.
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@jibjubby Because I have read them and listened to other experts that have research specifically on protein intake. You are the one with nothing here except "nuh-uh". I provided the evidence and because you don't like it you try to shift the burden of proof.
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@jibjubby Let's see your articles that cite recent studies that contradict the ones I provided.
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