Comments by "Ying Yang" (@yingyang1008) on "TIKhistory" channel.

  1.  @Calbeck  You blaming WWI on them now as well? Not a question of sympathy, it's a question of getting away from this good vs. evil propaganda BS and having an adult discussion about history
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  2. Was wanting more land for your people really so insane?
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  3. Judged by the standards of the day - desiring more land and believing in the supremacy of your people was pretty much par for the course As for hating Stalin and being petrified of Communism - that seems pretty reasonable to me
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  4. The enigma codes were cracked at the start of the war - we knew everything the Germans were doing and saying
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  5. TIK knows what side his bread is buttered on
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  6.  @extrahistory8956  we're lucky to have had such a reliable ally as Stalin to tell us what happened
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  7. Truth is the enemy of the winners of that war
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  8.  @extrahistory8956  Interesting that all of those camps were behind the Iron Curtain
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  9.  @Xoruam  all countries are in debt, usually to the exact same people
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  10.  @schibleh531  Apparently it wasn't important enough to be worthy of mention in Churchill's 1,200 page memoir on WWII And it was never mentioned during the war at all (in the media, etc.) as a motivating force - bit weird
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  11.  @stephenroney2366  Yeah, but that wasn't an extermination camp - and no one ever claimed it was Those camps were only 'liberated' by Stalin
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  12. I don't think that was a death camp, they were only liberated by Soviet troops
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  13. Just to remind you all that they threw David Irving in jail as an old man for what he said - should we not be outraged about that more than some mistakes or lies he may or may not have made in some of his books? We are lied to everyday by politicians, academics, historians, etc.....
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  14. Well what we know beyond any doubt is that the 'official' historians lie for a living and that the winners write the history books So, of course be skeptical about Irving, but he should still be read as some of his work is remarkable His book on Dresden was regarded as a classic worldwide - it was only when he went 'off message' about Hitler that his career was destroyed I have no doubt that his books contain some mistakes (perhaps even deliberate) - but our newspapers and official historians lie to us all the time We live in a world of mass lies and propaganda - best to have an open mind
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  15.  @petriew2018  He was greeted as a liberator by the Slavic peoples who had been enslaved by Stalin (eg Ukraine)
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  16. Try converting to Judaism - good luck
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  17. . mainstream historians lie for money, in comparison Irving is a fountain of truth
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  18.  @bakters  Stalin attacked Poland at the same time and enslaved it for 50 years, performing attrocities like the katyn forest massacre I'd say that proves that WWII had nothing to do with protecting Poland Germany made repeated attempts to avoid war with the British empire, none of which were reported in the media Similarly, none of Stalin's attrocities were reported either, he was called uncle Joe In fact the katyn forest massacre was blamed on Germany for decades, despite it being well known that it was Stalins doing
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  19. Why did he no also make a film on the millions killed by Stalin? Because he would have been thrown in a gulag
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  20. a few hundred people died in Coventry - Britain deliberately murdered around half a million Germans by bombing
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  21. It was the UK and France that declared war on Germany
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  22.  @penguzpingas5833  history is written by the winners
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  23.  @ccdsds3221  loooool
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  24.  @Necromancer_88  The Bolsheviks engaged in the biggest human slaughter in world history, then created a despicable gulag police state - the ethnic make up of most of its leaders (especially NKVD) is there for all to see They then took over and slaved dozens of satellite nations before WWII, and then took over half of Europe, sending it into a dark age it is still only just recovering from 80 years later Only when facing defeat from Germany did they start to play the patriotic propaganda card I'm not defending Germany, but let's not forget just how despicable the Bolshevik regime and Stalin the Georgian were
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  25. 400 deaths vs. 40,000 deaths
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  26.  @bakters  don't think Germany had any interest in western Europe to tell you the truth, until France and the UK declared war on them The last thing they wanted was another two front war The east is obviously different though, Hitler had a beef with Stalin obviously
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  27. Oh the horror of being forced to control a country's banking and media industries
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  28.  @norbitcleaverhook5040  they were greeted as liberators because of the horrors committed by Stalin To not mention this makes it propaganda
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  29.  @mateuszplatt200  The USSR killed tens of millions of people before the war even started and put untold millions more in gulags
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  30. If you are happy to see historians in prison, you're on the wrong side Just saying
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  31.  @jurgnobs1308  WWII was a disaster for Europe and completely unnecessary Unfortunately it's illegal to discuss the event you say I deny in my country, and also on this platform, so can't talk about it
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  32.  @johnstirling6597  yeah, basically the winners write the history books
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  33. Patton realized too late that we fought the wrong country
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  34. It's a simple fact that the wealthiest capitalists in the world at that time were Jewish and that Marx and the leaders behind the Soviet Communist revolution were Jewish Could just be a coincidence of course, but a fact is a fact
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  35. How come you didn't rise up against stalin?
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  36. TIK doesn't care about facts bro - just clicks
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  37. Literally every single policy he introduced was socialist in nature - he was one of the most left wing politicians in all history, he basically invented the welfare state Left wing politicians from all around Europe visited him to witness his socialist reforms, all of which were incredibly popular among working people He was in power for a long time before the war and to claim what he did wasn't left wing in nature is to deliberately deny reality for propaganda purposes
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  38. Imagine allying with Stalin, letting him take over half of Europe - then pretending the war had something to do with fighting evil lol
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  39.  @norbitcleaverhook5040  If he made such a film, nothing would have happened to him If he made a film about the tens of millions of Russians killed by Stalin he would have been gulagged or executed
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  40.  @Pyotyrpyotyrpyotyr  I assume you agree it was at least millions?
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  41.  @johnhough4445  There weren't many innocent parties in that war The British Empire had slaughtered and enslaved hundreds of millions of people and was suppressing multiple struggles for democracy around the world The USSR had slaughtered and enslaved tens of millions of people, and invaded dozens of countries before the war even started and invaded Poland at the same time as Germany - yet was supposedly an ally The US was timing its entry just right to win the day and replace Britain as the new global imperial power Everything we learn is mostly nonsense
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  42.  @dennisweidner288  Lol, take a step back and start learning some real history - not this propaganda garbage from the visdtors If we cared about democracy and saving innocent people, do you really think we would have allied with Stalin and allowed him to enslave half of Europe Just to remind you, Stalin had already killed tens of millions of people and created a hideous police state full of gulags before the war even started
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  43.  @dennisweidner288  First of all you say the 'forces of democracy' - And yet Britain was an imperialist power that had the world's largest ever empire, throughout which democracy was mostly prohibited While the USSR was a hideous police state dictatorship that had killed tens of millions of its own citizens Then you say that the Nazis were the 'primary threat' - primary threat to who? Germany repeatedly pleaded Britain and France not to declare war and to be allies in the war against Communism In 1939, the USSR had already killed tens of millions of people, whereas Germany had essentially killed no one The USSR also had a very clear expansionist policy and had already taken over numerous small countries As soon as you stop reading the official propaganda, this all becomes clear
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  44.  @dennisweidner288  Hitler had no desire for war with Britain or France- he literally begged for peace His beef was with Russia, we let the USSR enslave half of Europe and we have the gall to call it victory for freedom
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  45.  @TeaParty1776  lol, yeah whatever Your average German wasn't reading philosophy They're the best soldiers in Europe, the best engineers, among the best artists, and tend to be polite and very hard working Downsides would be them being kinda boring and less independent, more likely to follow rules, etc.... The number of advancements that came from Germany is mind blowing
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  46.  @moniker2804  yes I agree My point is that we never seem to mention the tens of millions killed by Stalin And the fact that we gave him half of Europe
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  47.  @penguzpingas5833  no I'm not I'm pointing out that Stalin killed tens of millions of Slavs and sent millions more to the gulags And that we gave him half of Europe and called it a victory for democracy and freedom
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  48. It's illegal in many countries to question certain aspects of WWII - that alone should make people think
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  49. You find it difficult to view children innocently? Maybe you had a sadistic childhood as part of a particularly broken family?
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  50. We started WWII to protect poland by allying with the USSR, which attacked Poland at the same time as Germany We then gave Poland and half of Europe to the USSR, which had already murdered tens of millions of people Then we made movies and called ourselves heroes, lol
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  51. "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans, one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf.Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson
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  52. If deliberately creating a firestorm in a city in order to incinerate as many civilians as possible isn't a war crime - then what is?
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  53. No one even knew - even Churchill didn't know, so why would CHLDREN know?
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  54. So you'd be OK with someone from Vietnam or Iraq incinerating an entire US city, and all your family? Because your children reaped what they sowed?
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  55. It was necessary to give Stalin half of Europe - what a victory for freedom
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  56.  @norbitcleaverhook5040  I've seen the film - it's not only good, it's artistically brilliant However, at any point in that film, would a viewer be aware that the Russians were fighting for a Georgian psycopath who had murdered tens of millions of Russians and sent millions more to the gulags? Would a viewer be aware that those very same villages were conquered and ravaged by Stalin and that they originally celebrated the arrival of the Germans as liberators? Do you not think these are perhaps important points?
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  57.  @norbitcleaverhook5040  you find the fact that those very same villages were massacred by Stalin to be completely unimportant?
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  58.  @306champion  and this was one?
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  59.  @306champion  yeah I'm not here to defend Germany and Japan Just pointing out that we also committed attrocities - and that this good vs. evil thing is just dumb propaganda Remember, we allied with Stalin and gave him half of Europe
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  60. I don't think there were any death camps in Germany, they were all liberated by Soviet troops in eastern Europe
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  61.  @Pyotyrpyotyrpyotyr  The USSR killed tens of millions of its own citizens before the war even started
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  62. Germany repeatedly tried to make peace with Britain - it was Britain that declared war on Germany, not the other way round
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  63.  @dennisweidner288  You mention the Nazi extermination camps - but there was no mention of such a thing in 1939, they didn't exist nor did anyone think they would ever exist So to claim we fought a war against Germany because they had extermination camps makes no sense It makes even less sense given that Stalin did actually have forced labor camps and had killed tens of millions of people BEFORE the war had started As for Solzhenitsyn - his most interesting work is 'Two Hundred years Together' - which still hasn't been translated into English (wonder why that might be)
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  64.  @dennisweidner288  I know your kind - you watch documentaries like 'The World at War' and think it's not propaganda Let's go back to 1939....... Germany united with Austria with the consent of the vast majority of both populations. They then invaded a small part of Czechoslavkia full of German speaking people. They then made it clear that they wanted the Danzig corridor back from Poland - an area full of German speakers that had been taken away from the country after WWI and which connected Germany to the North Sea - search for Danzig corridor and see how ridiculous the situation was. Germany clearly wanted some colonies in Africa and war with the USSR seemed very possible. Now let's take the USSR: It had already killed tens of millions of people in the most horrendous circumstances imaginable, constructed a network of hideous gulag camps where people were worked to death and had created the a truly horrifying police states. It was hated by everyone that had the misfortune to live there. Furthermore, the USSR had invaded and occupied numerous independent countries (including Finland) and had clear expansionist aims. And remember, the USSR invaded Poland at the same time as Germany - but we decided to let that go for some reason. Now let's take Great Britain: It had the world's largest ever empire, most of which had been taken militarily. Throughout most of the empire, democracy was forbidden, mostly on racial grounds: if you were white you got democracy, if you were brown you didn't. The empire was the most powerful force in the world at that time and wanted to keep things that way. Now let's look at the result of WWII - Britain and the US allied with the USSR and allowed it to enslave half of Europe - and they called it a victory for freedom - lol Germany made it very very clear that they had no desire to fight Britain or its empire or France or any other Western nation - we declared war on them, not the other way round The result of WWII was an annihilation of freedom for half of Europe and tuning the world's most horrific police state into a super power WWII had nothing to do with fighting for democracy or freedom - it was a war fought by superpowers for strategic motives, like all wars All the rest is propaganda to make the sheep feel happy and warm and to get them to enlist Wake up - our crimes in that war were horrific
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  65.  @dennisweidner288  I just wrote a massive reply to your comment - and that;s all you can come up with We live in an age of mass propaganda - that extends to what supposedly happened during WWII and why - the idea that we were the good guys fighting for freedom and were therefore justified in burning hundreds of thousands of German women and children and allowing the USSR to enslave half of Europe has to end Rise above the propaganda - give it a try
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  66. lots more quotes just like this one that mysteriously don't make it into these discussions
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  67.  @spartanparty3894  Russia was conquered by a foreign force in 1917 - that's what Russians have to realise
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  68. Did your economics degree reveal who the secret shareholders of the FED are?
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  69.  @kennedymcgovern5413  Right - let me get this straight You have an economics degree and are interested in economics and finance Yet you are unaware of who runs the Federal Reserve and have no interest at all in finding out Lol, Ok - the absolutely definition of ignorance Good luck with that
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  70. Belarus was occupied by Stalin
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  71. I don't think Hitler ever deliberately created firestorms in cities with the aim of killing as many civilians as possible Maybe he would of though I guess
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  72.  @black-uh1df  The USSR invaded Poland at the same time - yet we allied with them and helped them enslave half of Europe Britain itself had taken over much of the entire world via conquest If you think WWII had something to do with protecting Poland I think you need to step away from the History Channel
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  73. No one mentioned anything about death camps until after the war
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  74. Black dudes are real good at basketball
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  75.  @jesusjohnny8286  no, but enough to completely dominate the league
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  76.  @jesusjohnny8286  well I think they're good at it for a physical reason, not because they choose to be But I guess your ideology stops you from seeing why
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  77.  @jesusjohnny8286  just coincidence that the 100m final is dominated by dudes of west African heritage Ok thanks
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  78. He was Jewish
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  79. War crimes are only committed by those that don't write the history books
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  80. Cause tens of thousands of civilians were incinerated
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  81. Yeah, incinerating tens of thousands of women and children is a war crime
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  82.  @patriciabrenner9216  So you admit now that it was a deliberate tactic - in one day you have completely reversed your position Maybe you should stop spamming the comments seeing as you don't know anything about the subject
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  83. "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans, one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst..... Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson
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  84. So war crimes don't exist?
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  85. Imagining the death of children and being happy about it - what a disturbed psycho you must be
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  86.  @phlm9038  Nope - Churchill didn't even mention it once in his massive book on WWII If they has known it would have been used as propaganda constantly to justify the war
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  87.  @warhead_beast7661  And the British invented concentration camps in the Boer War
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  88. So why even have a court for war crimes? Just let anyone incinerate entire cities of people
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  89.  @asafb1984  helping Stalin was a good thing?
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  90.  @bakters  nice, we don't hear much about it for some reason I think it's perhaps because we like to think we saved Europe from tyranny
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  91. Tommy Robinson's real name is: Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon
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  92. People do actually argue that believe it or not
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  93. best comment on this thread
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  94. 400 people died in Coventry, not really comparable is it
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  95. Only a few hundred people died in most of the towns you listed We're talking about deliberately incinerating hundreds of thousands of civilians and refugees
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  96. England was taken over by the money lenders in 1688, the Bank of England was formed in 1694
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  97. "Kurt Vonnegut wrote a book called , or  about the Dresden raid. For many years I had intended to write a book on the bombing. Now I do not need to write it, because Vonnegut has written it much better than I could. He was in Dresden at the time and saw what happened. His book is not only good literature. It is also truthful. The only inaccuracy that I found in it is that it does not say that the night attack which produced the holocaust was a British affair. The Americans only came the following [p. 29] day to plow over the rubble. Vonnegut, being American, did not want to write his account in such a way that the whole thing could be blamed on the British. Apart from that, everything he says is true." Freeman Dyson
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  98. "Of course, Germany started the war and were the aggressors" - you sure about that?
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  99.  @dirgsuite5546  the USSR attacked many countries and murdered tens of millions of people before the war even started They attacked Poland at the same time as Germany Yet we allied with them and gave them half of europe History is lies agreed upon The war had nothing to with fighting evil - that kind of nonsense is just how you sway the masses
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  100. His entire channel relies on ignoring these facts
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  101. Until 1939, he was popular throughout Europe, adored throughout Germany, and seen as something of a progressive leftist politician - having completely turned around Germany's fortunes and created Europe's first welfare state Who knows what mental state he was in by 1945 But at least he was liked by his own people, unlike Stalin, who murdered millions and invaded multiple countries with no outcry from the 'international community' or 'media'
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  102. Britain and France started the war
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  103. We didn't respond in kind, we responded 100x in kind
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  104. He gave half of Europe to Stalin - called it a victory for freedom, then made a new career based on warning us about the 'Iron Curtain'
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  105. aggressor - lol
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  106.  @moss8448  So why did we ally with the USSR? They attacked Poland at the same time and enslaved it for 50 years
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  107.  @moss8448  and that's why we allied with Stalin? And have him half of Europe? Step away from the propaganda
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  108.  @norbitcleaverhook5040  Well it's propaganda then, and if the director had tried to tell more of the truth you would neve have heard of him again
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  109. Stalin was arguably more 'evil' and more of a threat to Europe - yet we allied with him
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  110. Britain declared war on Germany
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  111.  @Newbonic  Except we didn't declare war on the USSR did we? We allied with them and gave them half of Europe - including Poland So the treaty was obviously a much wanted pretext that had nothing to do with saving Poland or fighting evil As if we would start a world war over the Danzig Corridor - that would be completely insane
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  112. We let their vile police state regime take over half of Europe and called it a victory for democracy - lol, everything we learn about that war is BS
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  113. You're using Irish feudalism under the British Empire as an example of a free market? What?
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  114. Germany only lost WWI because the USA entered the war The USA only entered the war because of the Balfour declaration - signed between the British government and the Rothschilds, guaranteeing Palestine for settlement Benjamin Freedman's 1961 Speech at the Willard Hotel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dRd3Ajiu4Q&t=4s
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  115. "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans,* one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf.† Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson, British Bomber Command
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  116. man made propaganda
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  117. So do war crimes exist or not?
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  118. He has to keep his ad revenue flowing
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  119. So the allies can't commit war crimes?
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  120.  @CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl  Surely that's a low ball number and what about the bombing of Japan as well
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  121. How many of 2 million Vietnamese civilians murdered by the US thought about the 'why'? Would you be OK with someone from Vietnam incinerating New York?
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  122. Yeah, when historians are pit in prison, it's because they have something interesting to say
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  123.  @dennisweidner288  he made untold offers for peace with both britain and france He had no desire of any kind for war with them Why do you think rudolf hess was kept imprisoned alone for so long Stop reading 'historians', they tell nothing but lies
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  124.  @dennisweidner288  Get back to the History Channel
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  125.  @dennisweidner288  lol, turn off the History Channel, it isn't there to tell truth
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  126.  @dennisweidner288  Whatever - I wrote a truly massive reply to your comment If you don't want to read and reply then don't But don't hide behind faux outrage at some mild mocking
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  127. @Joshua Roesner you're knee deep in propaganda As for Poland - did you forget that that the USSR invaded Polsnd at the same time as Germany and enslaved it for 50 years? And why was it OK for Britain to have the world's largest ever empire? As for no one knowing that the USSR had killed tens of millions of people? Are you serious? The USSR had also invaded numerous countries before the war and tried to take over Finland Start afresh with what you think you know about that war - avoid official sources
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  128.  @andreasklisch3695  we had a global empire throughout most of which democracy was unknown, we allied with a psycopath and helped him enslave half of europe And we call it a victory for freedom - lol
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  129.  @andreasklisch3695  as a german you are one of the most propagandized people on earth Wake up and realize the lies you refuse to even begin to question
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  130.  @andreasklisch3695  i suggest you keep an open mind and remember that the victors write the history books
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  131.  @andreasklisch3695  you think we live in democracies - lol
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  132.  @SuperLusername  if I'm a nazi apologist you're a stalin apologist We helped one of the most evil men and regimes take over half of Europe - may they forgive us
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  133.  @SuperLusername  You think britain wanted to 'help' Poland? And you think they provided this help by allying with the evil USSR regime that invaded Poland at the same time as Germany and enslaved it for 50 years? Seriously? This is how you think?
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  134. ​ @SuperLusername  We literally made an agreement with Stalin that allowed home to take over half of Europe - we had a conference and days of talks and agreed to the USSR becoming a super power We also armed the USSR to the hilt and provided an unimaginebale amount of weapons, trucks, food and support of all kinds We literally made it all happen How can you be unaware of this? How can you honestly argue that WWII had something to do with protecting Poland and ridding the world of a tyrant when we helped a tyrant who had already killed tens of millions of people to take over Poland and half of Europe Seriously, where is you're brain at? Stop watching the 'World at War' - it's called propaganda for a reason
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  135. Is it any different today?
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  136.  @agentkaos1768  You've grown up interested in history - which is commendable But you've spent you've entire life watching documentaries like 'World at War' and probably even movies thinking you were learning about the past Everything you think is true is total nonsense - and once you actually decide to use your own brain that will become apparent Let's just look at what actually happened in WWII - the British Empire allied with Stalin (who had murdered tens of millions of people, sent millions more to the gulags and invaded dozens of countries before the war even started) We then destroyed Germany and and gave half of Europe to the USSR Supposedly the war was triggered by the invasion of Poland - despite the fact that Stalin invaded Poland at the same time and enslaved it for 50 years, as well performing atrocities like the Katlyn Forrest massacre We gave away half of Europe to communism and called it a victory for freedom - what? But you can't help yourself, you're so attracted to these nonsense stories that we all grew up with that you dare not even play devil's advocate Get back to watching Saving Private Ryan you propagandized fool
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  137. Maybe it's because so army of the leaders of the Communist invasion of your country and NKVD were Jewish
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  138. Sounds like you had your head filled with propaganda from the winners
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  139. Is the US currently begging to have New York incinerated given it has invaded countless countries and killed millions since WWII?
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  140. also terror acts
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  141. The UK declared war on Germany
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  142.  @joeyjamison5772  So? That means we can incinerate tens of thousands of women and children?
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  143. Why did Churchill write a 1,000 page book on WWII and not mention it? How was it possible that the Allies were unaware of this during the entire war? It would have been perfect propaganda to justify the war in the minds of the public
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  144.  @Nolant.  So why didn't anyone mention it? And why didn't Churchill talk about it in his massive book on WWII?
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  145. Talmud disagrees with you
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  146.  @groovechampion1462  400 deaths, not really the same is it
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  147. 400 people died in coventry, at least 40,000 died in Dresden
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  148. Khazars
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  149. So why do we have the Hague?
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  150. About a million times worse than anything happening in Ukraine
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  151.  @pladderisawesome  Lol, step away from the propaganda
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  152.  @HW-sw5gb  imagine believing your TV
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  153.  @patriciabrenner9216  the Ussr killed tens of millions, but we allied with them and gave them half of Europe As for death camps, no one knew anything about them until the soviets found them, so the bombing had nothing to do with it - it was cold blooded murder Great to see you celebrating the murder if children, psycho
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  154.  @patriciabrenner9216  Ukraine was part of the USSR because it had been invaded by the USSR - and then decimated by the Holodomor and slavery, causing many millions of deaths
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  155. Germany didn't start the war - we started the war by declaring war on Germany and allying with Stalin Incinerating hundreds of thousands of civilians is a war crime
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  156. The war was a disaster for Britain - we entered it as the world's superpower and exited it as a bankrupt satellite of the US As for Europe - we lost half of it to Stalin, because we allied with him and turned the USSR into a superpower
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  157. So if a country doesn't surrender, that means we can incinerate entire cities full of women and children? That's your logic?
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  158. The allies and russians were guilty of many attrocitues also Imagine being part of the fire bombing of Dresden
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  159.  dwiggins01  So we 'liberated Europe' by allying with a psycopath (Stalin) who had taken over a large part of Europe and killed tens of millions of innocent people before the war even started and went to take over and enslave half of the continent for 50 years - lol As for bombing civilians - the British were the first to do that More civilians died in one night in Dresden than in Lon don during the entire war What we did to Germany was a total disgrace As for quotes, why not quote Patton, who realized (too late) that we fought the wrong side in that war - he later died mysteriously Everything we are taught about that war is propaganda - our motives were dark, and had nothing to do with liberating anyone
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  160.  dwiggins01  Pre 1939, all Germany had done was unify with Austria (a hugely popular decision) and taken a tiny slither of Czechoslovakia full of German speakers who saw themselves as Germans They had also made it clear that they wanted the Danzig corridor back from Poland. So what, the Versailles treaty was insane. In comparison, Britain had the world's largest ever empire at that time - most of which was gained via military expansion and throughout most of which democracy was completely unknown. Also, in comparison, the USSR had killed tens of millions of its own people, introduced a hideous police state, opened many dozens of gulags , invaded several independent nations and made it clear that it had expansionist goals The idea that Britain declared war on Germany to 'liberate' Poland is utterly insane - as highlighted by the fact that we allied with the USSR, which invaded Poland at the exact same time and occupied it for 50 years, killing who knows how many hundreds of thousands of people The result of the war was the USSR taking over half of Europe - sending it into a dark age it is yet to emerge from Our motives were dark - don't fall for the propaganda and look deeper
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  161.  @rohiths3554  so I heard, lots of info out there on it
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  162. 300 people died in Coventry At least 30,000 died in Dresden
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  163.  @crabbytemptations1771  the UK declared war on Germany
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  164. Why was WWI Germany's fault?
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  165. Lol, step away from the propaganda
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  166.  @Necromancer_88  Nearly everything we've been told about that war is nonsense The Soviet leaders weren't even Russian and certainly had no love for Russia for its people
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  167. Without all the aid sent to Russia and the annihilations of Germany from the air, the USSR would never have gone on to enslave half of Europe
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  168. Do war crimes exist or not?
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  169. Danzig Corridor
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  170. Way over 25,000
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  171.  @GrrMeister  not very similar
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  172. Yeah cause the British Empire wasn't racist, lol
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  173. Britain and france started WWII
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  174. "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans, one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst..... Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson
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  175. "Kurt Vonnegut wrote a book called , or about the Dresden raid. For many years I had intended to write a book on the bombing. Now I do not need to write it, because Vonnegut has written it much better than I could. He was in Dresden at the time and saw what happened. His book is not only good literature. It is also truthful. The only inaccuracy that I found in it is that it does not say that the night attack which produced the holocaust was a British affair. The Americans only came the following [p. 29] day to plow over the rubble. Vonnegut, being American, did not want to write his account in such a way that the whole thing could be blamed on the British. Apart from that, everything he says is true." Freeman Dyson
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  176. Are you claiming that Nazis dominate the media and banking?
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  177.  @TylerMarkRichardson  Balfour declaration
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  178. At the end the day it was capacity to supply simple things like jeeps, food, liberty ships and oil that was most important
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  179. It was a movie
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  180. They didn't start the war
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  181.  @patriciabrenner9216  WWII started when Britain and France declared war on Germany Since when did invading a country mean the entire world had to go to war? The USSR invaded Poland at the exact same time as Germany - yet we allied with them and gave them half of Europe The British Empire controlled about 1/3 of the world and regularly invaded countries - no one decided to make a world war out of it
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  182. Don't expect any 'historian' to look into this, they care more about money
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  183. So why did we give half of Europe to Stalin?
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  184. Unfortunately 'historians' are more concerned about their paycheck than truth
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  185. Who are the secret shareholders of the FED? What ethnic group do they come from?
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  186. so was wall street - wall street also funded the Communist revolution in the Russia
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  187. Yet we allied with Stalin
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  188. Millions died in Vietnam - so is it OK if someone incinerates everyone in New York?
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  189. Lebensraum was OK for the UK, France, the USSR and the USA - but not OK for Germany
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  190.  @Dutcheh  So Stalin was an ally - the guy who murdered tens of millions of his own people and enslaved half of Europe
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  191.  @johnclayden1670  Yeah, we all got told nonsense at school Like how giving half of Europe to Stalin was a good thing for example
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  192.  @MrEd8846  yeah, I admit they committed attrocities and am no fan of them Just find it interesting that we collectively choose to forget that these very same villages were devasted by Stalin pre-war Many of these USSR countries greeted the Germans as liberators at first But I'm no fan of Hitler or the SS, don't worry about that
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  193. 300 people died in Coventry, over 30,000 in dresden
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  194. They grew up watching 'The Great Escape' and 'Dambusters' - think they were heroes
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  195. When they throw historians in prison for what they write - I suggest reading their books
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  196. May they one day find it in their hearts to forgive us for what we did
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  197. The guy was arrested for treason - which means execution - and was instead released after a little time inside (during which he supposedly wrote Mein Kampf) History is lies agreed upon
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  198.  @walterCronkitesleftshoe6684  Firstly, Britain started bombing German cities before Germany started bombing British cities Secondly, the number of deaths in Britain pales into total insignificance compared to what we did to them - we raised entire cities to the ground As for expansionism - why was it OK for Britain to rule over 25% of the globe and for the USSR to take over half of Europe, but not OK for Germany to also want colonies and expansion? You make it sound like the British Empire launched a war in the name of democracy - which is insane, it ran a race based dictatorship on land it had won via conquest in much of the world The USSR invaded Poland at the same time as Germany, and then enslaved half of Europe for 50 years. They also killed tens of millions of people and invaded dozens of countries before the war even started - yet we allied with them and called Stalin Uncle Joe As for women and children in Dresden 'recoiling in horror' - did you really just write that? And are you seriously suggesting that if they did, then bomber command would suddenly have decided to not murder hundreds of thousands of civilians? Seriously, step away from the propaganda - the winners write the history books
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  199.  @walterCronkitesleftshoe6684  The jewel in Britain's empire was India - so that destroys that argument As for giving Stalin half of Europe, this was agreed to at the Yalta conference and was why the USA and Britain deliberately slowed their advance on Berlin The idea that I would fight for Poland is insane, just like the official propaganda that the British empire launched a global war over Poland is insane However Germany was more than capable of saving Europe from communism alone Both world wars were completely unnecessary and tragedies for Britain and European civilization I would have been an absentee, watching on with bemusement as men incinerated entire cities for money
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  200.  @walterCronkitesleftshoe6684  good to know that you would find it correct for Iraq to incinerate London and murder hundreds of thousands of people Makes you a total psycho, but good to know
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  201.  @walterCronkitesleftshoe6684  so you would have used nuclear bombs on cities and murdered hundreds of thousands of people What a psycopath
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  202.  @Warszawski_Modernizm  Fascinating to hear about - this is never mentioned in the West We grew up believing we had saved Poland and the rest of Europe from tyranny
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  203.  @ronmaximilian6953  so why did France and England not declare war on the USSR? It invaded Poland at the same time as Germany
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  204. There's a statue of Churchill in Jerusalem
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  205. No historian will go there The one's that do lose their careers
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  206. I think we'll never know, we have all been force fed a certain image of him for so long German people seemed to genuinely love him, even after the war, and German people seem pretty rational to me
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  207. "It's hard to feel sorry for a country that supported a man and a political machine that murdered tens of millions of innocent men, women, children and babies in country after country" Yet we did just that by allying with Stalin - then we allowed him to enslave half of Europe
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  208. Nothing we are told about that war is true
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  209. Stalin killed millions also and went on to enslave half of Europe, but we allied with him
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  210. Fake picture at 05:48
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  211. You talking about stalin?
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  212. I guess because he dramatically improved living standards in just a few years
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  213. "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans,* one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf.† Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson, British Bomber Command
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  214. Any Americans viewers might be shocked to learn that historian David Irving was sent to prison for what he wrote I suggest finding his books for free online
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  215. OK for Great Britain to have the world's largest ever empire OK for the USSR to enslave half of Europe Not OK for Germany to invade Poland at the same time as the USSR
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  216. Blaming WWI on Germany now as well are we? The Allies can do no wrong it appears...
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  217.  @MrSwj2009  You realize that the Nazis didn't exist during WWI? Take a step away from the propaganda
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  218. By that logic you could do absolutely anything and claim its justified
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  219.  @501sqn3  Right - so by your logic it's OK to wipe entire cities off the face of the planet, to literally burn to death hundreds of thousands of women, children and refugees Ok thanks psycho
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  220. Stalin did the same - but most people seem to agree he left of the spectrum
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  221. If that sounds horrible, you should read about the British empire and the USSR
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  222. Freeman Dyson resigned over Dresden - worth reading
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  223. Why would you idolize a Georgian who murdered tens of millions of Russians?
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  224.  @dirgsuite5546  no, I think the winners write the history books
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  225. The USSR murdered tens of millions of its own citizens, put millions more in death camps, and invaded dozens of countries before the war even started They then went on to enslave half of Europe - yet you claim they were the good guys and did no real harm
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  226. Freeman Dyson worked for bomber command, as did the others that people have quoted
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  227. The US started multiple wars this century alone
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  228. Just another propaganda channel
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  229. He's no David Irving
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  230.  @markaxworthy2508  Yeah, because he's an evil nazi, my TV told me so
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  231. You should focus on telling us about aspects of battles during the war - you're really good at that When you stray into political and economic territory, you may as well be a BBC mouthpiece Guess it has to be that way to keep your channel, so I sympathize, you're not responsible for the censorship so I don't blame you
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  232. The great patriotic enslavement of half of Europe led by a despised Georgian dictator
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  233. They never gave the UK or anywhere in Europe total war
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  234.  @exeexecutor  Germany wanted peace with Europe and tried endlessly to get it
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  235.  @exeexecutor  you seem to be very happy about the Dresden thing, good for you
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  236.  @codieomeallain6635  fair enough
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  237. Who cares about Jews?
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  238.  @marine5166  They declared war on Germany - supposedly for invading Poland But the USSR also invaded Poland at the same time and occupied it for 50 years So that looks like nothing but a pretext
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  239.  @FreeIsraelll  no one knew about that then, it wasn't mentioned anywhere until after the war
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  240.  @FreeIsraelll  how very old testament of you
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  241.  @FreeIsraelll  at that point no one knew, so logically it makes no sense
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  242.  @CB-fz3li  Did you miss the bit where he decided to ally with the USSR and later held a conference where he agreed to give Stalin half of Europe? This isn't hard to read about
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  243.  @CB-fz3li  The conference was at Yalta - where the map of Europe was officially carved up by the so called 'allies' But of course the decision to give Stalin a huge part of Europe was made much earlier in principal How can you justify allying with the USSR when it had murdered tens of millions of people, created a gulag police state, and invaded dozens of countries (including Poland)?
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  244.  @CB-fz3li  So losing half of Europe to Stalin was a necessary evil? A man who had killed tens of millions of people, enslaved tens of millions more, and invaded dozens of countries before the war had even started? And the reason Germany was so much more evil was because they invaded Poland? Even though the USSR also invaded Poland at the same time? Of course Stalin had already occupied much of Europe, he was our ally and we did everything we could to help him and had agreed in principle that he would massively expand the USSR via the war
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  245.  @CB-fz3li  we were only at war with Germany because we decided to declare war on Germany Supposedly over Poland, but Stalin invaded it at the same time Germany had no desire of any kind to fight the British empire
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  246.  @CB-fz3li  Well that worked out well didn't it - we started a world war over bloody Poland Which ended up with us losing half of Europe (including Poland) to Communism And also ended up with Britain becoming a third rate satellite nation of the USA Then we pretended it was a victory for us and freedom in general, lol
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  247. lol
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  248. The same Russian historians who blamed the Katlyn Forest massacre on Germany? Those guys?
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  249. Britain had a far larger empire though
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  250. Most Jews are atheists
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  251. moon landings.....lol next you'll be claiming muslims did 911
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  252. There were plenty people willing to fight against the Communist take over of half of Europe
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  253. Any history that told the truth about WWII would be sacked immediately, imprisoned in many countries
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  254. Stalin killed tens of millions of his own people, we allied with him
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  255. Same thing didn't even come close to happening in London
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  256. 300 people died in Coventry At least 30,000 in Dresden
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  257. Wall Street banks were the main funders of the Bolshevik revolution
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  258. The fact that people like yourself exist disgusts me
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  259. You gave Stalin half of Europe
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  260. Britain declared war on Germany
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  261.  @moss8448  I'll answer it for you right here: WWII had absolutely nothing to do with fighting for freedom or saving poland
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  262.  @moss8448  Good question - you won't find the answer from 'historians' unfortunately
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  263.  @moss8448  The USSR had killed tens of millions of its own citizens, put millions more in gulags, and invaded multiple countries before the war even started It attacked Poland at the same time as Germany and went on to enslave half of Europe Why did we start a world war because Germany wanted to fight the USSR? How was losing half of Europe to the USSR a victory for freedom?
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  264.  @moss8448  I don't really understand your argument - Hitler was hugely popular in Germany and oversaw a massive rise in living standards The USSR murdered tens of millions of its own citizens, created an evil police state and gulag system, and invaded multiple independent countries BEFORE the war even started The USSR also attacked Poland at the same time as Germany Yet we allied with them and gave them half of Europe Germany wanted back the land it lost due to the Versailles treaty and probably wanted a war with the USSR - so what? The war was a complete disaster for freedom and democracy Also, Britain had the world's largest ever empire at the time throughout which democracy was mostly unknown - why was that OK?
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  265.  @moss8448  How was Stalin not a monster? What had Hitler done in 1939 that was so outrageous compared with the USSR and British empire?
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  266. This channel toes the party line
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  267. More like propaganda than autobiographical The Germans were greeted as liberators when they entered countries invaded by Stalin
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  268.  @norbitcleaverhook5040  No, I'm saying Stalin killed tens of millions of his own people and the Germans were originally welcomed as liberators
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  269. Why did Americans keep fighting in Vietnam and Iraq? Because they were told to....
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  270. I heard that David Irving speaks excellent German
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  271. But we were the good guys remember, fighting for democracy remember - lol History is lies agreed upon and nothing else
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  272.  @TheImperatorKnight  We allied with Marxists and gave them half of Europe and called it a victory for democracy History (as taught) is literally a bunch of lies that makes no sense of any kind to even the least enquiring of minds We can't even discuss many of the more obvious subjects as your channel would be censored - something I would hate to see as I like it a lot
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  273.  @TheImperatorKnight  The war had nothing to do with fighting for democracy We allied with a police state that had murdered tens of millions of its own people and invaded multiple countries before the war even started Then we allowed it to take over half of Europe - gee what a victory for democracy
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  274.  @TheImperatorKnight  the USSR murdered tens of millions of its own citizens and put millions more in the gulags To compare that with the rest of Europe at that time makes no sense We allied with that disgusting regime and gave it half of Europe - including Poland
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  275. How many history professors tell their students that much of mainstream history is nonsense written by the victors? If they did, how long would they last in their job?
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  276. I don't remember Germany incinerating entire cities
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  277. About 400 people died in Coventry - what are you talking about?
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  278.  @simonpitt8145  So do war crimes exist? Should we just forget about the Hague, Geneva convention, etc.... We deliberately incinerated entire cities full of civilians, children and refugees with the deliberate aim of killing as many of them as possible If that's not a war crime then what is? The 'blitz' in the UK was not comparable to any degree at all
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  279.  @fanniinnanetguy653  sup psycho
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  280. Churchill wrote a 1,200 page book on WWII and didnt mention the camps once
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  281. No one knew about it - that's why it was never mentioned until after the war
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  282. How many children do you think he killed?
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  283.  @d.k8257  seriously, go outside for a walk and have a think
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  284.  @jonathankovacs1809  why was it bad to follow Hitler, but good to support Stalin? We killed more people in one night of bombing in Dresden than died during the entire blitz Then we gave half of Europe to Stalin Then we called it a victory for freedom
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  285. more clicks
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  286. Why would Irving be accidentally correct? His book was accepted by all leading historians at the time and was promoted by the media in all countries
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  287. Do we really live in a capital society when the federal reserve has secret shareholders and creates money from nothing
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  288. So you agree the Allies were monsters as well?
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  289.  @TonyGonzales2  It was the Allies that nuked cities full of innocent civilians, not the other way round
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  290. ​ @TonyGonzales2  The US and UK recently started three wars with Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq - does that mean they can expect to have entire cities of innocent people incinerated?
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  291.  @TonyGonzales2  The USSR also invaded Poland - so does that mean we could have dropped an H bomb on Moscow?
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  292. Until 1939, his political views were well respected throughout Europe
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  293.  @Cloud_Seeker  the desire for land via conquest was also normal then, as was the belief in the superiority of Europeans
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  294.  @Irondevil34  Yes, that's my point, at that time it was considered normal for Europeans to exploit other countries via conquest and to see themselves as superior Look at the British and French empires as examples, and the Spanish before that
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  295.  @Irondevil34  He was Time man of the Year and was visited by progressive politicians from around Europe due to the reforms he had made He was popular with a lot of British MPs and royalty He really wasn't that controversial a figure until 1939
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  296. The annihilation of cities like Dresden was key to helping Stalin enslave half of Europe
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  297. There's no comparison, London was barely touched relatively speaking
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  298. The US seems to have done OK this century
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  299. He knows where his money comes from
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  300.  @TheImperatorKnight  there's certain subjects that you can't cover or you would lose your channel That's obviously not your fault though
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  301. Incinerating tens of thousands of women and children was necessary?
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  302.  @jamesanthony5681  by that logic you could wipe out entire cities whenever you felt like it
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  303.  @jamesanthony5681  ah, so the allies cannot commit war crimes, ok got it
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  304.  @jamesanthony5681  I'm fairly sure incinerating an entire city is a war crime
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  305.  @jamesanthony5681  "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans, one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf. Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson
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  306.  @jamesanthony5681  300 people died in Coventry
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  307.  @jamesanthony5681  yeah, the numbers aren't comparable But that's not the point, a war crime is a war crime
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  308. Was Stalin not a psychopath?
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  309. "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans, one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst......Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson
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  310.  @alek1766  Fan of Stalin were you?
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  311.  @alek1766  Well the bombing was planned to help Stalin enslave half of Europe
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  312. Only the losers perform war crimes apparently
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  313. How many children do you think he incinerated?
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  314.  @patriciabrenner9216  The women and children that did that weren't in Dresden
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  315. 'estimated'
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  316.  @manfredconnor3194  400,000 people
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  317. According to Freeman Dyson, British Bomber Command, the Dresden number is at lest 80,000
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  318.  @Finnbobjimbob  Freeman Dyson, British Bomber Command, disagrees with you
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  319.  @Finnbobjimbob  he wasn't a pilot, he was a famous scientist and a key part of strategic bombing command/intelligence It was literally his job to understand the numbers
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  320. You enjoyed children being incinerated You sick degenerate
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  321.  @tonyclough9844  300 people died in Coventry We killed more than 30,000 people in just one night in Dresden - and that's a very low ball number According to Freemen Dyson we killed 400,000 Germans in total via bombing
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  322. It's safe to say it was hell on earth
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  323. Rather than a race to Berlin, he Allies had to be slowed down so as to allow the USSR to occupy the countres granted to it at the Yalta conference
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  324. Yeah, but when you're that young you're very likely to be brainwashed - only a few make it through the programming
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  325. Weird how Churchill never mentioned them in his over 1,000 page book on the war
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  326. The more interesting question is why we kept supporting the USSR in it's enslavement of half of Europe?
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  327. He wasn't even Russian
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  328. Hey psycopath
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  329. Marx's father was a Rabbi apparently - so I get the 'religious' connotations
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  330.  @patriciabrenner9216  Surely the USSR was also monstrous?
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  331. We've destroyed multiple countries this century alone
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  332. All mainstream historians lie - so we are left to piece together the truth ourselves
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  333. No, Britain started it by bombing berlin
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  334.  @Newbonic  176 people died in Coventry - tens of thousands of people died in Dresden
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  335. Would love for us to be able to have an open and polite debate on whether we fought the wrong country, and whether we should even have got involved So sick of the good vs. evil propaganda nonsense
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  336. But it was OK for Britain to have the world's largest ever empire?
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  337.  @blank557  and it was OK for Stalin to murder tens of millions of his own citizens, send millions more to the gulags, invade multiple countries and then take over half of Europe This was a moral war fought for freedom? lol
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  338. Apparently, only the losers can commit war crimes
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  339. It did go to plan though - the plan was to create a firestorm and destroy the entire city and kill as many civilians as possible Not just in Dresden, but throughout Germany
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  340. 'questionable' in the opinion of who?
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  341. Germany believed that Britain signed the Balfour declaration with Rothschild to get america to join WWI This happened and is not denied by anyone Overnight, the US started beating the war dreams and entered the war, then Versailles was signed which guaranteed a second war
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  342. Surely it was the allies that were hypnotized - giving half of Europe to Stalin and calling it a victory for freedom and democracy, completely insane
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  343. Iraqi Operation Freedom springs to mind
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  344. The NBA disagrees with you
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  345.  @capncake8837  Meanwhile 'Ally' power the USSR took over half of Europe with the full blessing of the UK and USA
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  346. Even Churchill didn't know about that until after the war - impossible that regular Germans knew about it either
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  347.  @charlesmartella  Yeah I guess so - but that has nothing to do with 99.999% of German soldiers and civilians
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  348. he was a Catholic
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  349.  @Nolant.  How Orwellian of you
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  350. His job is to discredit the likes of Irving
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  351. It was OK for the USSR to invade dozens of countries (including Poland), murder tens of millions and create a gulag state - they were our allies But it wasn't OK for Germany - they weren't our alllies, so they committed war crimes Think I'm getting the hang of this history thing
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  352. No real historian believes the 25,000 number
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  353. Because all he's interested in is clicks
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  354. The World at War was just nonsense propaganda from the victors - very well narrated though
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  355. The official historians are no better, they essentially lie for money
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  356. But it was OK for Britain to rule India and to incinerate entire cities - OK bro
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  357. You can't really compare Clydebank to Dresden mate - it's laughable to do so
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  358.  @williamwallacedebruce9221  there were 500 deaths in Clydebank At least 25,000 died in Dresden
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  359. It was a popular view at the time
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  360.  @Kevin-mx1vi  no one has ever claimed it was a death chamber camp - compared to what the ussr had at that time, it was nothing
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  361.  @wekapeka3493  but it was ok to ally with Stalin? And give him half of Europe?
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  362.  @wekapeka3493  that was essentially the tesult of WWII - we agreed to them taking Poland etc.... Incidentally, the USSR invaded Poland at the same time as Germany
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  363.  @wekapeka3493  we gave half of Europe to a psychopath - what a great victory for freedom
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  364.  @andreasklisch3695  how does that justify allying with the ussr and giving it half of europe? Why was it ok for Britain to have the world's largest ever empire?
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  365.  @andreasklisch3695  why was giving half of Europe to stalin a better option? Why was it OK for Britain to have a massive empire that only gave ddmocratic rights to white people? Why was it OK for the USSR to invade Poland st the same time as Germany?
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  366.  @user-xk5fs1zu3m  the ussr invaded Poland at the same time and took over half of europe - we allied with them As for Britain - it had the world's largest ever empire You seriously claiming that war had something to do with fighting for freedom?
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  367.  @SuperLusername  We didn't have to ally with anyone, we were under no threat of any kind But if we were going to ally with someone, it certainly shouldn't have been the USSR. Just to remind you, the USSR killed tens of millions of innocent people before the war even started, created a dystopian police/gulag state, and invaded multiple independent free countries Because of our support - they went on take over half of Europe In what possible way can that be called a victory for freedom or democracy? It's also worth remembering that Britain had the world's largest ever empire at that time throughout most of which democracy was totally unknown - the idea that we went into that war to spread freedom or democracy is nothing but a pipe dream Like all wars it was fought by elites for imperials aims - the rest is propaganda
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  368.  @SuperLusername  Germany hadn't even come close to committing genocide by 1939 whereas the USSR had already killed tens of millions of innocent people The USSR had also invaded multiple independent countries before the war and also invaded Poland at the same time as Germany We then let the USSR take over half of Europe - sending it into a dark age it is yet to re-emerge from The idea that Britain entered the war to free the world of a dangerous tyrant is nothing but idiotic propaganda for the dumb masses - who as usual were used as cannon fodder
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  369.  @SuperLusername  why was it ok for the ussr to talk over multiple countries and kill tens of millions before the war even started? Why did we need a strategy to stop hitler, but not one to stop stalin? Why did we support one of the most evil men and regimes in world history and let him enslave half of europe? Just admit you love stalin
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  370.  @SuperLusername  powerless? His army was a joke until about 1941, without our support itvwould have stayed a joke We had decades to do something about him Instrad we watched as they slaughtered tens of millions and invaded neighbouring countries Then we armed him to the teeth and agreed to him taking over half of Europe - we literally agreed to it and paid gor a lot of it
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  371. ​ @SuperLusername  The USSR army was a joke pre WWII - they failed to defeat Finland and had a massive technology gap with the West At first Germany sliced through it like butter, taking millions of prisoners Gradually they adapted - plus we armed them to the teeth and sent untold amounts of aid and materials of all kinds, the figures are truly mind boggling By around 1942 they were no longer a joke and Germany was running on fumes Why was it OK for Stalin to kill tens of millions of people, create a hideous gulag state, invade multiple countries and then enslave half of Europe? In what world was that a victory for freedom, democracy or good? None of that would have been possible without our support - we literally agreed to Stalin taking over half of Europe and becoming a superpower, while arming him to the teeth to do so Step away from the propaganda - WWII had nothing to do with protecting Poland or stopping a tyrant
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  372. Why would that make incinerating tens of thousands of women and children ok?
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  373. The US has killed millions of innocent people since WWII It dropped more bombs on Vietnam than all of the bombs dropped by all nations during WWII It wiped out 3 nations in recent years alone
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  374.  @agentkaos1768  lol, step away from the propaganda
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  375.  @agentkaos1768  so did all Europeans The British and french empires are two obvious examples Germany wanted a slice of the pie
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  376.  @agentkaos1768  you're the one first advocating the incineration of tens of thousands of innocent people And secondly giving of half of Europe to Stalin Not me
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  377.  @agentkaos1768  either you think incinerating tens of thousands of innocent people was one of the worst war crimes in recorded history or you don't Either you think fighting to give Stalin half of Europe was insane or you don't Stalin killed tens of millions of his own people, sent millions more to the gulags, and invaded multiple countries before the war even started We called him uncle Joe and gave him half of Europe Then called it a victory for freedom Step away from the propaganda and use your own brain
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  378. Right, only the losers commit war crimes
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  379. Man was a walking disaster - from the Dardanelles to Drezden to losing the British Empire and half of Europe to Communism By all accounts he was a 'bad drunk' and generally unsavory character as well His remarkable rise from the political wilderness to PM, and who paid for it to happen, is something everyone here should read up on
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  380. David Irving wrote an amazing and highly acclaimed book on this event Start there, then read his other (suppressed) books on Churchill and the war in general
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  381.  @TheImperatorKnight  Nothing we are told about WWII is based in reality - nearly all professional historians simply lie or self reference one another As an example look how long it took to finally admit who committed the Kattyn Forest massacre His book was highly acclaimed when written - it was only when he went 'off message' that his credibility was doubted We will never know the exact number What we know is that we performed some of the worst war crimes in all of recorded history on innocent women, children and refugees Yet pretend we were fighting 'evil'
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  382.  @TheImperatorKnight  I don't trust anyone as everyone lies, is biased or censored What we do know for a fact is that we live in a propaganda state where the authorities lie to us, especially when it comes to things like war Irving is no doubt flawed, but I'd far rather read his books than some official propaganda piece Some of his insights into Dresden and Churchill and other elements of the war are incredibly interesting - and he has paid the price for going off message with his career People should be encouraged to read his books - which can be found for free - and make their own minds up As for the total number of deaths - we have no idea, no one even knew how many people were in the city at that time What we do know is that it was one of the biggest war crimes in all of recorded history, and it wasn't a one off If you are going to criticize Irving, then why not also criticize all the other historians who literally lie for a living I again point to the Kattyn Forest massacre as just one example where 'professional' historians lied to the public for decades
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  383.  @TheImperatorKnight  Irving's books on Dresden, Hitler and Churchill are fascinating and essential reading to anyone interested in WWII The man was sent to prison for not toeing the line I suggest people find out what he had to say
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  384. "correct number of dead" - whatever makes you cope bro
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  385.  @danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944  more? What?
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  386.  @danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944  you're seriously comparing that to the slaughter of millions of people, and the taking over of half of europe
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  387. Very convenient for the Allies
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  388. It was straight up murder - more people died in Dresden in one night than during the entire Blitz in London
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  389.  @patriciabrenner9216  Fascinating to know that you would have no problem of any kind with New York being fire bombed and its millions of civilians being incinerated I mean it makes you a total psychopathy - but fascinating to know
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  390. They didn't start the war
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  391. Weird how Churchill never talked about those camps in his over 1,000 page book on WWII
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  392. They would have won easily if the US and UK had stayed out of it
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  393. Double dose of propaganda
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  394. lol
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  395. He basically created the nation state - about as socialist as it gets
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  396. Why would it make sense to help Stalin enslave half of Europe? How was that a good thing?
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  397. Stalin killed millions of his own citizens and enslaved half of Europe, yet we allied with him
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  398. Why was it okay to follow Stalin but not Hitler?
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  399. @Will Muny Saved Europe by giving half of it to Stalin, ok
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  400. Schindler's list was a movie
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  401.  @thanksfernuthin  probably best not basing your views off of movies
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  402.  @thanksfernuthin  next you'll be recommending Anne frank
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  403. Murdering children - so brave
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  404. 400 people died in Coventry - give it a rest
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  405. It's used as a derogatory word though
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  406.  @gerberjoanne266  Thanks kike
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  407. But the Allies didn't know about that, neither did anyone in Dresden
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  408.  @pacificrailproductions5281  so why didn't the allies use the death camps as war propaganda to motivate the soldiers and the public? If Churchill didn't know, with his access to all German communications, then Germans didn't know either
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  409.  @pacificrailproductions5281  How could a civilian in Dresden know when Winston Churchill and every other member of Allied intelligence didn't know?
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  410. Surrendering to the USSR was literally worse than death - so why surrender?
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  411. The US has started multiple wars this century alone, killing at least hundreds of thousands
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  412. People should read widely and form their own opinion David Irving went from being a celebrated and respected historian to having his career destroyed
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  413. How many children did he kill?
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  414.  @XHitsugaX  some smashed shop windows - not exactly a big deal back then
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  415. 550 people died in Coventry - well over 50,000 died in just one night in Dresden
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  416.  @patriciabrenner9216  You been watching Schindler's List again? And what would that have to do with civilians living in Dresden? By that logic every Jew in the world is guilty for any crime of committed by a Jew - makes no sense of any kind. And are you claiming the people doing the bombing were time travelers? Because there were no claims of death camps until they were liberated by the Soviets in 1945. You just sound like a psychopath, delighting in the murder of innocent women and children,
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  417.  @patriciabrenner9216  even the children?
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  418.  @patriciabrenner9216  it killed its own? You mean the people in the countries it invaded like Ukraine?
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  419.  @patriciabrenner9216  We aren't talking about Russia, we're talking about the Soviet Union - a new country that invaded dozens of countries before WWII an murdered tens of millions of people, especially in Ukraine Stalin wasn't even Russian
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  420. Britain declared war on Germany, not vice versa
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  421.  @womble321  why was it ok for the USSR to attack it's neighbors, including Poland? Why was it ok for Britain to have a huge empire throughout which democracy was mostly unknown? You think that world war and the loss of half of Europe to communism was the best response to Germany wanting the land it lost in WW1? As for Britain, the war left it bankrupt and nothing but a lapdog of the US
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  422.  @womble321  we didn't liberate countries, we gave half of Europe to the USSR Churchill wrote a 1,200 page book on WWII without mentioning death camps at all Britain finished the war bankrupt and a lapdog of the US
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  423. Would you not fight against Communist slavery as well?
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  424. Germany only lost because the USA entered the war The USA only entered the war because of the Balfour declaration
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  425.  @wtice4632  Was common knowledge at the time Benjamin Freedman's 1961 Speech at the Willard Hotel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dRd3Ajiu4Q&t=4s
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  426.  @catholicmilitantUSA  This is really worth the listen (especially first half hour) and might help change your mind.... Benjamin Freedman's 1961 Speech at the Willard Hotel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58CaLup5dE8&t=450s
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  427.  @catholicmilitantUSA  The war was in a total stalemate - with Germany never having experienced a single invasion into its territory What swung the balance of power was internal political collapse and the entry of the USA
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  428.  @catholicmilitantUSA  Remember also that Germany was fighting on two fronts for the entire war - however they eventually won the eastern front So had millions of troops and huge amounts of equipment to concentrate on the western front
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  429. Britain ruled the world and allied with Stalin who killed tens of millions and enslaved half of Europe Why was that acceptable to you?
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  430. Bit like how Britain ruled over all those brown skinned people
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  431. That's what you get for signing the Balfour declaration
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  432. No - we declared war n Germany, not the other way round
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  433. Germany was completely transformed under Hitler, from people literally starving in the streets to one of the strongest countries in the world
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  434.  @Brahmacarin  how many countries did Britain and the USSR invade or occupy in the decades preceding the war? I assume you aware that the USSR murdered tens of millions of people and invaded multiple countries before the war started?
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  435. Can it really
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  436.  @iDeathMaximuMII  most the war then
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  437. Nope, they were interested in killing as many people as possible
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  438.  @mcquiggd  Were they not turned into lampshades?
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  439.  @mcquiggd  it's a serious question I saw it on the world at war documentary by the BBC, and it was reported in all newspapers
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  440.  @lorddaver5729  Yeah, and I assume you agree that was a terrible thing?
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  441. The UK started the war
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  442. Bit suspicious that Hitler didn't take Gibraltar all the same
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  443.  @doctoroctopus2620  I know the part where we allied with stalin and helped him enslave half of Europe, including Poland And then how we pretended it was a victory for freedom Off you go now, get back to Saving Private Ryan
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  444. Could say same about Churchill
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  445. Russia had absolutely no chance of winning without US aid
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  446.  Metal 1974  cool story bro - Russia failed to beat Finland just before WWII
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  447.  slavko kolovratic  yeah, thanks to aid and a 3 front war
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  448. Britain declared war, not Germany
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  449.  @douglasbuck8986  the USSR attacked Poland at the same time, yet we allied with them and let them enslave the country
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  450.  @douglasbuck8986  They both attacked Poland, as part of their agreement, practically at the same time So why did we ally with the USSR? The USSR had murdered tens of millions of its own citizens and invaded multiple countries before the war even started Then it attacked Poland at the same time as Germany So why did we ally with them and allow them to enslave half of Europe? History is nothing but nonsense propaganda to fool the masses - as if we cared even in the slightest bit about Poland We ourselves had a massive empire, throughout most of which democracy was unknown Stop watching World at War and the BBC
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  451.  @douglasbuck8986  Communism wasn't new and had involved the murder of tens of millions of people, the sending of millions more to the gulags and the invasion of multiple countries - all while creating a horrendous police state We chose to ally with that monstrosity and to give it half of Europe
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  452.  @douglasbuck8986  the USSR had taken over multiple countries and murdered tens of millions of people What aren't you understanding here?
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  453. A Jewish Nazi?
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  454. Around 300 people died in Coventry
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  455.  @markpaul8178  about 30,000 over 5 years for England More than that died in just one night of bombing in Dresden
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  456. Thousands of people carried out Stalin's orders, thousands of people incinerated Dresden and many other cities, thousands of people worked to nuke two cities off the face of the earth in Japan
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  457.  @Cloud_Seeker  Japan posed no threat of any kind to the USA The decision to incinerate hundreds of thousands of innocent people was the worst war crime in all of human history
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  458.  @Cloud_Seeker  are you seriously claiming that Japan posed a threat to the USA?
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  459. Bit like the British Empire
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  460. Stalin was Georgian and killed tens of millions of Russians before the war even started - he sent tens if millions more to the gulags
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  461.  @garywells9478  such a trustworthy source of information
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  462. The incineration of tens of thousands in New York?
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  463.  @Nobody-Nowhere-USA  ah, we were fighting evil, by allying with Stalin and giving him half of Europe Lol,. ok
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  464. So you would understand Iraq, Libya or Afghanistan using nukes to wipe out tens of millions of US and UK citizens?
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  465.  @lancelot1953  Have I ever served? You mean "Have I ever killed people for a Central Bank with secret shareholders?" No, I don't do that
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  466. Right, so collective punishment is your thing
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  467.  @StephanieElizabethMann  So you support the deliberate incineration of hundreds of thousands of civilians via firestorm bombing because of the acts of political leaders that were completely unaffected by such bombing? Really nice person you must be Would you be OK with someone incinerating millions of people in New York because the US invaded Iraq?
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  468.  @petriew2018  Stalin killed more Slavic people than Hitler ever did - and we allied him and gave him half of Europe
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  469.  @TeaParty1776  yeah, but back in the day it was entirely normal to look to build an empire via conquest
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  470.  @AverageAlien  found the Stalin mass murdered clown sympathiser Do you still get goose bumps when you think of how we let Stalin enslave all those hundreds of millions of people? Get back to watching Saving Private Ryan you propagandized fool
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  471. By allied soldiers you mean the USSR? So we incinerated tens of thousands of women and children to help Stalin enslave half of Europe. Wow, so awesome
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  472. It's impossible to talk with most people - because Hitler did evil things, that means EVERYTHING he did was evil History isn't this cartoonish black and white kindergarten nonsense - it's always more complex Our heroes always have flaws, even 'evil dictators' always have some positives Just accept it
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  473. Yeah, basically we ensured Stalin took over half of Europe
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  474. Lol
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  475. Stalin wasn't Russian - Russians hated the USSR
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  476. Was Communism not a cult as well? Yet we allied with them and gave them half of Europe
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  477.  @inovakovsky  Tough to see what was liberal about the USSR or the British Empire
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  478. Lol
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  479. We allowed the USSR to enslave half of Europe and called it a victory for peace and democracy People will believe anything
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  480. He didn't want to dominate the world
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  481.  @anldemeli4560  Brits did the same to Germans - it was Britain that started the war, not Germany
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  482.  @anldemeli4560  try reading some non propaganda to find out Incidentally, Britain did actually rule the world in 1939, while the USSR went onto enslave ovef half a billion people
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  483. If only we did combine our forces to destroy Communism and free Russians and Eastern Europeans
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  484. Can anyone in the USSR claim evidence?
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  485. Serious question: Did he hate the USSR as well, seeing as they invaded Poland at the same time, enslaved it for 50 years and performed atrocities like the Katyn Forrest massacre?
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  486. Bit like the British Empire?
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  487.  @jesusjohnny8286  how many are in the NBA? Blacks account for 2% of the UK population and completely dominate sprinting Scientific papers have been written on their genetic advantage But according to you, a Nigerian immigrant and Chinese immigrant are identical
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  488. Your own leaders killed more Russians than that before the war even started
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  489.  @khajiitty  imagine fighting for a regime led by a Georgian that killed tens of millions of Russians and put many millions more in gulags, then enslaved half of Europe And being proud of it, lol
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  490. The USSR had already murdered tens of millions of people and invaded multiple countries, and was trying to destabilize Germany (Rosa Luxemburg) Germany was quite rightly petrified of communism, a show down was inevitable For some reason we decided to back Stalin and give him half of Europe
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  491.  @alisha8099  You're happy that the USSR enslaved half of Europe? We all grew up hearing the same nonsense about WWII Time you now start figuring out the actual truth If you think the British Empire and Stalin united forces in the name of Poland and democracy then you have been watching too many Hollywood movies As for being 'happy' that hundreds of thousands of German civilians and refugees were incinerated - What? Seriously? Like what is wrong with you?
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  492.  @Filthy_Freeaboo  The British Empire had to murder hundreds of thousands of civilians to help Stalin enslave half of Europe in the name of democracy - right OK
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  493. Is the CDC or WHO any better?
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  494. It was an invitation to take over half of Europe
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  495. Was it not the British that controlled most the world with their race based empire?
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  496.  @thefrenchareharlequins2743  Yes, that's quite a lot of countries Little bit suspicious
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  497.  @thefrenchareharlequins2743  You don't find it strange that you go to prison for questioning certain historical events in democratic European countries? OK bud - sounds like you and Hitler would have got on just fine
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  498.  @thefrenchareharlequins2743  They can't repeal them because the whole point to them is to avoid certain questions being asked So we have the situation where German grandmothers and lawyers are sent to prison for what they say
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  499. atomic bomb - lol, wake up
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  500. And who runs this MSM you seem to hate?
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  501. So why have the Hague?
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  502.  @berndf.k.1662  David Irving wrote a great book on it, I'd say he's closer to the truth than most professional historians But we'll never really know
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  503. Tens of thousands of incinerated women, children and refugees don't deserve sympathy?
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  504.  @Tom_Cruise_Missile  it was one of the worst war crimes on all history If you can't feel sympathy for the incineration of tens of thousands of innocent people then you're a monster
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  505.  @Tom_Cruise_Missile  what's your point? Are you claiming the incineration of tens of thousands of innocent people wasn't a heinous war crime?
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  506. The guy was on the door step of Stalin, who had murdered tens of millions and invaded multiple countries Attempts at spreading communism into Germany had already been made (eg Rosa Luxemburg) Why would you not want to fight the USSR? And why didn't we help him? Instead we gave half of Europe to Stalin and called it a victory for freedom
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  507.  @fakeorchestra4260  Everyone knew Germany and the USSR were going to war He briefly allied with Stalin to prevent facing a two front war, because we declared war on him
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  508.  @DickCheneyXX  why did we ally with stalin then? He killed far more people before 1939
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  509.  @cheesetomato9140  300 people died in Coventry
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  510. The USSR took half of Poland at the same time - apparently they were allowed to
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  511. Horrifying outlook - you disgust me
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  512. Stalin killed millions of his own citizens, sent millions more to gulags, and invaded dozens of countries Yet we allied with him Where's your logical consistency?
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  513. A lot of his policies were respected world wide
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  514. The US killed around 2 million civilians in Vietnam - so as long as you are prepared to accept the possibility of Vietnam incinerating New York and millions of people one day then fair enough I guess that would at least mean what you say
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  515. Yeah, murdering children, so awesome
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  516. Exactly, this channel is as biased as any other mainstream mouthpiece It was one of the worst war crimes in recorded history
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  517. Because the USA joined the war following the signing of the Balfour declaration
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  518. Had to eliminate threat of two front war
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  519. What is wrong with you? Were you born evil?
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  520. lol, step away from the TV
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  521. Yes, incinerating an entire city full of women, children and refugees is a war crime The fact that it was done to help Stalin enslave half of Europe makes it all the more evil and insane
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  522.  @richardstephens5570  USSR invaded Poland at the same time and enslaved it for 50 years We allied with them
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  523. What were they meant to do at that stage of the war? The sensible option was to hold of the USSR as long as possible and hope for a more lenient peace with the USA But the UK and the USA had already agreed to give half of Europe to Stalin and to annihilate much of Germany to help it happen
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  524. Churchill wrote a 1,000 page book on WWII and never mentioned these camps or deaths once
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  525.  trainbomb  Soviets killed tens of millions of their own citizens before the war even started and sent millions more to the gulags
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  526. Then the USSR would have taken even more of europe
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  527. The US chose Bush and killed many hundreds of thousands in Iraq The US chose Kennedy and killed around 2 million Vietnamese So I guess you would accept the incineration of an entire US city in retribution
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  528. Exactly - and why did we give half of Europe to Stalin and call it a victory for freedom History is lies agreed upon
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  529.  @VectorOfKnowledge  Weird how Churchill wrote a book of over 1,000 pages on WWII and never mentioned it even once
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  530. Is that why he allied with mass murderer Stalin and agreed to him taking over half of Europe?
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  531. Did he manage to kill any children?
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  532.  @warrendsmith6832  Kurt Vonnegut is a primary source - he was literally there David Irving is a unique historian in that he relies very heavily on primary sources Freeman Dyson is a primary source from bomber command
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  533.  @warrendsmith6832  No one who was actually there had a clue what was going on, it was a day long fire storm I've provided three excellent sources In any case, the argument over numbers isn't really the point It's the depravity of the intention to wipe an entire city off the map
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  534. 40,000 people died in the blitz - half a million Germans were incinerated
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  535. By the Allies you mean Stalin and the USSR - which murdered tens of millions of its own people and enslaved half of Europe?
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  536. Yes
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  537. Balfour declaration
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  538. Both wars were very much wanted
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  539. Both sides committed war crimes Dresden was one of the worst war crimes in all of recorded history
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  540. Don't expect truth from 'historians'
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  541. A few hundred deaths
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  542. If you get what you sow then that means we can expect Germans to one day repeatedly firebomb our largest cities and kill hundreds of thousands of civilians
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  543. "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans,* one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf.† Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson, British Bomber Command
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  544.  @Nolant.  It was literally his job in the war - and these are only direct casualties When you add in all the deaths caused by supply chain damage, disease and the general collapse of society, the number grows and grows A deliberate attempt to kill millions of women and children via incineration All to help Stalin enslave half of Europe What heroes we were.....
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  545. Was the British empire evil?
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  546. Was Stalin evil?
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  547. So you're happy incinerating tens of thousands of innocent women and children
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  548.  @ImperativeGames  Who praised Hitler?
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  549.  @ImperativeGames  Yeah, our politicians have to protect the public from the truth - great idea
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  550. You must be a lovely chap
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  551. It was bombed to help the USSR take over half if Europe, as planned
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  552. Germany only lost WWI because of the entry of the USA The USA only entered the war because of the Balfour declaration - signed between the British government and the Rothschilds
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  553. The Balfour declaration is an historic document
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  554.  @theeccentrictripper3863  Well, I'd be pretty pissed if my nation was destroyed and humiliated because of a document signed between a foreign government and the Rothschilds Benjamin Freedman's 1961 Speech at the Willard Hotel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dRd3Ajiu4Q&t=4s
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  555.  @Irys1997  If Germany had won the war, what type of movies do you think we would be seeing? The winners write the history books, spread the propaganda, and make the movies
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  556. Children don't vote
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  557.  @johnrgoodman  deserved to be incinerated did they?
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  558. Let me guess - the USA murdering 2 million Vietnamese was also justified? Amazing what you can get away with when you write the history books
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  559.  @patriciabrenner9216  "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans,* one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended" Freeman Dyson, British Comber Command
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  560. He would say it was great and not a war crime
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  561. If he did his channel would be closed within a few hours
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  562.  @CheapSquierBassPlayer  So incinerating tens of thousands of women and children is justified if your enemy doesn't surrender?
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  563.  @patriciabrenner9216  Good to know you enjoy incinerating hundreds of thousands of refugees, civilians and children Glad it makes you happy
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  564. We declared war on Germany
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  565.  @howardpayne4128  so why did we ally with the ussr and let it take over half of Europe - including poland?
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  566.  @howardpayne4128  yes, certainly nothing to do with supporting poland or freedom
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  567.  @howardpayne4128  they should never have allied with the ussr in the first place - the regime had already killed tens of millions, invaded multiple countries and created a dystopian police state before the war even started Because of us, they took over half of Europe
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  568.  @howardpayne4128  why? They had no interest in war with the British empire or the us
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  569. Why would they have been any worse as people than Btits etc....
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  570. Do you think the reason Churchill never mentioned the camps in his 1,200 page on WWII was also to help rehabilitate West Germans?
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  571.  @GravitysShadow  Churchill destroyed the empire Britain started the war as the world's sole super power and ended it a bankrupt island and lap dog of the USA
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  572. Freeman Dyson from British Bomber Command disagrees with you "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans,* one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf.† Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson, British Bomber Command
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  573.  @danielread8549  bomber command disagrees with you
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  574.  @danielread8549  I gave you a direct quote from someone who worked at bomber command
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  575. Churchill was literally responsible for the destruction of Europe and Britain - yet is seen as a hero Just shows the power of propaganda
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  576.  @Gatotkatcha  We decided to ally with Stalin in 1939 - at this time he had already murdered tens of millions of people, sent millions more to the gulags, and invaded dozens of countries He also invaded Poland at the same time as Germany, enslaved it for 50 years and performed atrocities like the Katlyn Forest massacre At Yalta we agreed to give him half of Europe and even incinerated over half a million Germans to make it easier for him WWII had absolutely nothing to do with fighting for democracy - step away from the propaganda
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  577.  @Gatotkatcha  Get back to Saving Private Ryan mate - that's your level
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  578. Compared to 'official' propaganda, yeah he is
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  579. so is the one written by that Dutch girl
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  580. That seems incredibly unlikely - it's like saying the Soviets planned to rape all German women
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  581. Germany never did that to Britain, never came close to doing jt
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  582.  @FreeIsraelll  Churchill and bomber command didn't know about that at the time of the Dresden bombing Churchill didn't even mention it in his 1,200 page memoir on WWII Schindler's List was a good movie though
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  583. Employed by 'bankers'
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  584. yes
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  585. So not only did we murder tens of thousands of women and children - we also helped the USSR enslave half of Europe Gee, that's awesome
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  586.  @TheImperatorKnight Nonsense, it took decades to learn that the USSR, not Germany, carried out the Karyn massacre That's just the tip of a massive ice berg - everything we learn about that war is propaganda
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  587.  @closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0  We pretend we were the good guys fighting evil - yet we allied with Stalin and gave him half of Europe Everything about WWII is nonsense
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  588. The Germans unleashed unproved attacks on peaceful nations and acted abominably so So did the USSR - but we allied with them So did the British - that's how they built their empire How many people has the US killed this century alone?
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  589. Britain (with the world's largest empire) allied with the USSR (the world's largest police state) to fight for freedom and democracy - lol, people will believe anything
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  590. So your father supported the murder of tens of thousands of women and children? Must have been a nice upbringing
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  591. Hitler was popular throughout much of Europe pre-war - and why was it OK to support Stalin?
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  592. Churchill is another good example
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  593. It's downright suspicious To this I would add: - Kursk - where Germany gave Stalin many many months to install an incredibly tough defense - Not taking Gibraltar - Allowing the British troops to escape on D-Day - Refusing to defend a defendable line in the east - and perhaps Moscow
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  594. So do war crimes exist or not?
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  595. This is how you allow communism to enslave half of Europe
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  596. Nope, the World War started when Britain declared war on Germany
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  597.  @TheImperatorKnight  the USSR invaded Poland at the same time
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  598. People under his command were the ones doing the questioning
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  599. @Peter Mauser a lot of psychopaths on the thread who believe only Germany can commit war crimes
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  600.  @mcquiggd  they also committed war crimes What's so hard to understand that both sides did evil things?
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  601.  @mcquiggd  I'm not really a revisionist when it comes to the British Empire - think it did both good and bad Just find it amazing that people can't accept that the Allies committed some of the worst war crimes in world history and helped Stalin enslave half of Europe As for Britain - we ended that war bankrupt and a lapdog of the US
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  602. Because if he didn't say that his YouTube account would be demonetized
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  603. Should the US and UK be wiped out for invading Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya?
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  604. Around 550 people died in bombing of Coventry Well over 50,000 died in one night of the bombing of Dresden, and there were many many such nights throughout Germany
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  605. We declared war on Germany and allies with Stalin - not the other way round
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  606. They own YouTube and Patreon
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  607. It was a deliberate attempt to create a fire storm and incinerate as many civilians as possible Freeman Dyson from Bomber Command made it clear that that was the intention, and they tried to do the same man other times Even according to him hundreds of thousands were incinerated that way
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  608. You sound happy
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  609. 300 people died in Coventry At least 30,000 died in Dresden
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  610. Health 'experts' - lol
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  611.  @arrow1414  seeing a doctor is one of the most dangerous things you can do The only exception is when you have an accident
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  612. They were just normal soldiers, just like Brits, French, US, etc.....
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  613. So you agree Versailles was ridiculously harsh?
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  614.  @derduebel  Yes, there's a massive difference between being sent to a work camp as apart of a planned genocide campaign, and being sent to a work camp
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  615. It was a movie
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  616.  @MrEd8846  fair enough, I just have a bee in my bonnet We allied with a psychopath, gave him half of Europe, and called it a victory for democracy Meanwhile we still seem obsessed with Hitler and SS attrocities, while Stalin's acts continue to be swept under the rug
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  617. It was necessary to help Stalin enslave half of Europe - as agreed upon
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  618. History is a pack of lies that changes according to the preferences of those in power
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  619. I heard there was a court case about that book
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  620. Why was it OK for France, Britain and the USSR to take over countless countries and land, but not Germany Why was it OK for the USA to have an official Manifested Destiny policy? We seem to be very selective in our judgements
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  621. Saved Soviet lives - you mean helped Stalin enslave half of Europe
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  622. The numbers aren't comparable
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  623. @Mind-numbing Inevitability The numbers aren't comparable - it's like comparing the bombing of Coventry (300 deaths) with the bombing of Dresden (over 30,000 deaths)
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  624.  @Brslld  Hitler wanted Danzig back, as it was full of Germans who wanted to be German
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  625.  @Brslld  point being why start a world war over Danzig Why ally with Stalin when he also invaded Poland and enslaved it for 50 years
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  626. 300 people died in Coventry
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  627. I thought the Brits were first to engage in civilian bombing with the raid on Berlin
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  628. The USSR invaded Poland at the same time
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  629.  @chrishutton1458  Yeah, the USSR had also pefomed the Holodomor and invaded dozens of other nations - killing tens of millions o f people, and enslaving tens of millions more in a horrific gulag state Yet we didn't mention any of that at the time and instead allied with Stalin, gave him half of Europe and called Uncle Joe As Napoleon said: History is lies agreed upon
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  630.  @chrishutton1458  Who was Hitler a danger to? He literally begged Britain to form an alliance and not be enemies He had no interest at all in another tow front war or bad relations with the West
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  631.  @chrishutton1458  Of course he wanted to fight the USSR - the most evil regime in recorded history was literally on his doorstep Why was it OK for the USSR to invade dozens of countries and slaughter tens of millions of people? Why was it OK for the British Empire to colonize a third of the world? The winners write the history books If you seriously think Stalin and the British Empire teamed up to bring democracy to Poland then you're insane
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  632. Both world wars were disasters for Britain and both were completely avoidable Starts to make more sense when you realize that men like Churchill were simply mouthpieces for the people pulling the strings behind the scenes Just look at how he mysteriously came back to power in the late 30s after being something of a laughing stock - about as dodgy as it gets unless you have very powerful 'friends'
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  633. The British Empire allied with Stalin and let him enslave half of Europe - and called it a victory for democracy lol, people will believe anything
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  634.  @dragosstanciu9866  why do anything at all, or why not support germany against the terror of communism
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  635.  @dragosstanciu9866  why was it ok for atalin to take over half of Europe? Why was that not horrific? Why was it ok for britain to control a third of the world?
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  636. By this definition there is no such thing as a war crime
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  637. Weird how we allied with Stalin and gave him half of Europe
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  638. Historians make stuff up, it's what they do
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  639. So it wasn't a war crime because Germany did bad things too?
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  640.  @kx4532  no one knew about any extermination activities then - that was only revealed way after the bombing In fact Churchill wrote a 1,200 page memoir on WWII without mentioning such camps even once
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  641.  @kx4532  nope, that was a war crime also Why is it so hard to understand that both sides engaged in attrocities Dresden was one of the worst attrocities in all of human history
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  642.  @kx4532  so we both agree it was a war crime, at last
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  643.  @lorddaver5729  of course they count
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  644. So you advocate incinerating tens of thousands of women and children - charming guy you must be
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  645. Did the British Empire not also see itself as racially superior to its non white subjects?
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  646.  @patrickcastell2061  Did British people not also see themselves as superior as many other white peoples?
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  647. 300 people died in Coventry, tens of thousands dies in Dresden
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  648.  @toytoy1091  why would that make it ok to murder tens of thousands of civilians?
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  649.  @KameradVonTurnip  the fact they were released at all tells you all you need to know
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  650. How many did Stalin murder before the war? 20 million? Yet we allied with him and gave him half of Europe
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  651. 550 people died in Coventry - well over 50,00 died in just one night in Dresden
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  652.  @walterCronkitesleftshoe6684  Well, I'm talking about the war between Britain and Germany Britain was first to bomb a city - Berlin. Germany retaliated - London. Germany killed approximately 40,000 British people via bombing during the war Britain killed more than 40,000 Germans in just one night of bombing - and there were many such nights It's not really comparable - what happened in Dresden was inconceivable horror Here's a quote from Freeman Dyson who worked at Bomber Command "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans,* one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf.† Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Murder pure and simple
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  653.  @walterCronkitesleftshoe6684  I have no problem with the British Empire - it's dumb to judge the past What I don't understand is why you think Germany was somehow evil for also wanting to expand and have colonies As for saving Europe - we gave half of it to Stalin, who had already murdered tens of millions of Europeans, invaded dozens of European countries, and sent tens of millions more to the gulags In what universe was that a good outcome for freedom?
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  654.  @walterCronkitesleftshoe6684  Learned their lesson? You mean when we incinerated hundreds of thousands of civilians? That's the lesson you're talking about? And in so destroying Germany, left half of Europe to be enslaved by Stalin What a victory for freedom and democracy
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  655. In Guernica, "One hundred and twenty seven civilians were killed and a further 131 died shortly after of their wounds" Horrible stuff but not exactly comparable to incinertaing hundreds of thousands of people
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  656. ​ @MrDaiseymay  The intention of the bombing of Dresden and many other German cities was to create a firestorm and incinerate as many people as possible That was the mission We killed at least half a million normal people, probably more If that's not a war crime - then we may as well do away with the term and just say that anything goes
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  657. Exactly, sheer common sense Unfortunately 'historians' are more concerned about their paycheck than truth
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  658. borrowed money created from thin air
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  659. Proper historians don't down play the number of deaths in Dresden
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  660. UK is run by an man of Indian origin and has one of the most multicultural populations in the world
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  661. Did the British not have a superiority complex at that time? With the world's largest ever empire, the White Man's Burden, Britannia Rules the Waves, etc.....
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  662. Where were you when you the US annihilated Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Central America, Vietnam, Korea and who knows where else?
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  663. Why would we want to help the Soviets? How could that possibly be a good thing?
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  664. ​ @salus1231  But we knew that the USSR had killed tens of millions of its own citizens, invaded many countries, and created a horrendous police state and gulag system How it could it possibly have made sense to give Stalin half of Europe? How could you possibly justify incinerating tens of thousands German women and children to help Stalin enslave half of Europe? How does any of that make sense morally or strategically?
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  665.  @salus1231  the horrors of the USSR were known for decades, just before WWII they invaded Finland and they invaded Poland at the same time as Germany Step away from the propaganda The British empire didn't ally with stalin out of some concern over freedom or democracy
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  666.  @salus1231  why would you want to help a psychopath take over half of Europe?
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  667.  @salus1231  we incinerated tens of thousands of women, children and refugees to give Stalin half of Europe Explain how that was a good thing?
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  668. Churchilll's War is an interesting read - available free via PDF if you don't wanna buy it
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  669. You sound like a total psychopath, justifying the unjustifiable, I only hope you brought no children into this world
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  670.  @daleburrell6273  Stalin wasn't Russian
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  671.  @daleburrell6273  He was hated by Russians - the USSR murdered tens of millions of innocent people, and invaded dozens of countries before WWII even started Right before the war they even tried to invade Finland They also built a hideous gulag system that enslaved and worked to death many millions more They also invaded Poland at the same time as Germany They then went on to enslave half of Europe So please, if you can, tell me why it made sense to ally with this psycopath and to give him control of half of Europe?
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  672.  @daleburrell6273  Supporting Germany with aid to fight the horror of Communist expansion would have been the sensible move All Germany wanted was its rightful place at the table of great nations - which it has had for the last 50 years anyway There was no need to be involved in either WWI or WWII, especially not for the USA - just a horrific waste of lives In case you forgot - Russians hated Stalin, and countries like Ukraine that were 'liberated' by Germany greeted the Germen troops as heroes and wanted to help them fight the Soviets Take a step away from the propaganda - everything we were told about that war was just victors propaganda
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  673.  @daleburrell6273  No idea what you wrote - guess I'll just have to live without your WORDS OF WISDOM Now off you go back to the History Channel and Fox News
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  674.  @ronmaximilian6953  so we started the war to save Poland, and ended the war by giving Poland to a psychopath along with half of the rest of Europe?
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  675.  @duongngole4785  Stalin killed tens of millions of people before the war even started
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  676.  @duongngole4785  not sure what you're trying to say, either way, we allied with a psychopath and gave him half of Europe
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  677. Yes we incinerated tens of thousands of women and children to help Stalin enslave half of Europe Then we called it a victory for freedom - and Morin's believed it
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  678. Does that mean it would be cool for people from Iraq and Libya to bomb US and UK cities for years to come?
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  679. Studied French for five years at school - it was a joke, we learned nothing Learned it myself in France in a year or so
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  680.  @alainbelanger9852  When I say I learned it myself, I mean I bought a simple grammar book, did conjugation exercises, read some simple books in French, watched movies in French, etc.... Then the rest really is through osmosis - the key is being in situations where you have to speak the language That's how children learn to speak after all I'm sure you're a god teacher and have helped a lot of students But I can honestly say that we studied French for 5 years at high school and learned nothing, and anyone from the UK I speak to says the same
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  681.  @Jameson-d8x  "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans,* one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf.† Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson, British Bomber Command
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  682. bit of a mental idea
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  683. The debate among the 'bleeding hearts' is whether it was a war crime I think everyone understands that bombing will unfortunately kill civilians But is it acceptable to create a firestorm in a city with the deliberate aim of killing tens of thousands of civilians? That's what the British did on numerous occasions, killing well over half a million people
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  684. "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans,* one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf.† Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson, British Bomber Command
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  685. Julius Caesar openly boasted of killing millions of Gauls and enslaving millions more But he got to write his own history books to a certain extent
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  686. Churchill and Hitler were appointed stooges of those that wanted world war - they followed their orders
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  687. Lol, Ok - let's just forget about the countless pleas for peace that Germany made with Britain so as to fight Communism, let's just pretend that never happened
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  688. All war is theatre, all sides are funded by the same people
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  689. No, we declared war on them
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  690. the NBA is so multicultural
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  691. One million people died in Iraq - are you responsible for that?
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  692. Pandemic, lol
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  693.  @kkeelty64  that sucks you lived through a pandemic man Everyone was just fine here
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  694.  @kkeelty64  brought to you by the same people that lied to you about WWII
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  695. Yeah, and it wasn't a one-off
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  696. The allied plan was to kill as many people as possible
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  697. The fact we declared war on Germany in the first place and allied with the evil USSR police state (giving it half of Europe) was a war crime in the first place The rest is propaganda
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  698. Are you saying that any nation that doesn't take over all means of production isn't left wing? Literally every reform he made was socialist in nature - he basically created the modern European welfare state, and the workers loved him for it
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  699. Germany didn't start the war though
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  700. You're comparing people concerned about vaccine side effects with genocide?
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  701.  @echoambiance4470  right, OK The upset mother a of a vaccine injured child is the same as someone who supports the genocide of millions? This is actually how your mind works?
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  702. How many countries has the UK and US invaded since WWII?
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  703. Is the whole campaign not overblown - the Allies had orders of magnitude more supplies and men, plus total air and artillery dominance, plus they had cracked all the German codes It was all just a matter of time
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  704. I have relatives from Clydeside - Dresden was one of the worst war crimes in all of human history
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  705. Censorship is critical to those in power
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  706. Cool story bro
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  707. Calculations, lol
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  708. Ah, so it's OK to eliminate entire cities
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  709.  @josephdestaubin7426  Sounds like you are claiming that it's perfectly OK to wipe an entire city from the face of the earth as long as it has some factories or soldiers in it
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  710. "Next, this guy will make "documentary" saying the Holocaust didnt happen!" It's illegal to that - he would lose his channel instantly and probably face criminal proceedings You should probably ask yourself why it's illegal to research certain topics
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  711. Genuine question: Do the Polish people hate Hitler or Stalin more? Or see them both as evil tyrants?
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  712. We allied with Stalin mate - the war had nothing to do with fighting bad guys
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  713. enjoy the smell of incinerated children do you?
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  714. May as well listen to the BBC, just as impartial as this guy
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  715. Apparently only the losers can commit war crimes
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  716.  @patriciabrenner9216  sup psychopath
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  717. No such thing as nukes bro
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  718.  @ronaldbobeck1026  I don't doubt such teams exist I doubt the bombs themselves are what they say they are
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  719. Something doesn't add up about Kursk - the Germans knew that the Russians knew they were coming, and yet they sacrificed themselves in such numbers Almost as if defeat was wanted
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  720. Quite an amazing system eh
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  721. We have already destroyed three countries this century alone based on dumb propaganda
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  722. War crimes are only committed by the side that lost it seems
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  723. Good to get a Jewish perspective
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  724. So just get rid of the Hague then?
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  725. Plenty people would be willing to give their lives to bring back the hundreds of thousands of incinerated German civilians
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  726.  @nickjung7394  sounds like you hang around with horrible people
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  727.  @Wolf-hh4rv  that the incineration of tens of thousands of innocent people was a despicable war crime
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  728. When mainstream historians are caught lying, we have little alternative but to search elsewhere
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  729. The USSR was the most important member of the 'Allies' - an evil totalitarian state that we allowed to enslave half of Europe
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  730. Does anyone out there understand how the Cathedral in Cologne survived the war? Seems like a genuine miracle.....
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  731. Children were building gun sights for Nazi tanks?
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  732. No need for sensationalism - we incinerated tens of thousands of women, children and refugees on multiple occasions Thus making it easier for the USSR to enslave half of Europe
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  733. If you're happy with firebombing cities and murdering hundreds of thousands of civilians then you're a psychopath
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  734. Why the hell would we be speaking German? Do all the countries that the USSR took over and enslaved now speak Russian? Hitler made it abundantly clear on many many occasions that he had no desire to fight or occupy Britain, France, the US or Western Europe - read some history
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  735. Why does that make it ok?
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  736.  @Minimouse580  incinerating tens of thousands of women, children and refugees was ok in your book? What the hell is wrong with you?
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  737.  @TheImperatorKnight  all historians lie
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  738. The Japanese bombings were also war crimes, probably the worst in world history
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  739. History books are full of lies written by the victors or the controlling power the current age - that's the main problem
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  740. Was it not an era where such crimes were common place? The USSR murdered tens of millions of its own citizens and invaded multiple countries, the British had the world's largest ever empire, mostly taken via violence and throughout which democracy was mostly unknown, etc....
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  741. How did they start it? We declared war on them. And because a country starts a war, the opponent cannot be judged for war crimes? What kind of logic is this? More people died in one night of bombing in Dresden than during the entire blitz
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  742.  @philsooty61  says the guy who approves of the incineration of tens of thousands of women and children And for what? So that Stalin could take over half of Europe, including Poland What a joke
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  743. So abolish the Hague?
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  744. lol, sure
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  745. The Allies were essentially under orders to avoid confrontation with Germans unless they had overwhelming superiority - the Germans had no air cover, little to no artillery support, hardly any fuel, and all their codes had been broken It was over before it started - if anything the problem was funding a way to slow the Allies down so that the USSR could reach Berlin and occupy half of Europe as planned
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  746. We blamed the Germans for the Kaitlin Forest massacre for decades, despite everyone knowing it was Stalin
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  747. The British Empire allied with Stalin to bring democracy to Poland - lol
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  748. ​ @Eo_Tunun  What's your point? That only the Germans could commit war crimes?
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  749.  @Eo_Tunun  yeah, we're talking about Dresden and how it was a war crime Incidentally, Churchill wrote a 1200 page book on WWII without mentioning the event you're talking about once
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  750.  @Eo_Tunun  the reason Dresden is focused on is obvious "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans, one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst..... Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson
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  751.  @Eo_Tunun  as for not caring about why Churchill didn't mention death camps once in a 1,200 page book on WWII Lol, ok
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  752.  @Eo_Tunun  we allied with Stalin and gave him half of Europe - despite the fact he killed tens of millions and invaded multiple countries, including Poland, before the war even started One day you'll understand that everything about that war is nonsense Until then, enjoy thinking it was a war between good guys and bad guys, and keep watching that TV
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  753.  @Eo_Tunun  my numbers are a direct quote from Freeman Dyson, who worked for bomber command
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  754.  @Eo_Tunun  ok you convinced me, I won't quote bomber command numbers anymore and will take your word for it Thanks bro
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  755. Moon, lol, sure
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  756.  @robertalpy  You must be one of those guys who watches this video and doesn't burst out laughing Apollo 17 Liftoff from Moon - December 14, 1972 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HQfauGJaTs&ab_channel=SmithsonianNationalAirandSpaceMuseum
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