Comments by "Ying Yang" (@yingyang1008) on "The SHOCKING Real Story of the Dresden Firestorm" video.

  1. a few hundred people died in Coventry - Britain deliberately murdered around half a million Germans by bombing
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  2. 400 deaths vs. 40,000 deaths
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  3.  @johnstirling6597  yeah, basically the winners write the history books
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  4.  @johnhough4445  There weren't many innocent parties in that war The British Empire had slaughtered and enslaved hundreds of millions of people and was suppressing multiple struggles for democracy around the world The USSR had slaughtered and enslaved tens of millions of people, and invaded dozens of countries before the war even started and invaded Poland at the same time as Germany - yet was supposedly an ally The US was timing its entry just right to win the day and replace Britain as the new global imperial power Everything we learn is mostly nonsense
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  5. You find it difficult to view children innocently? Maybe you had a sadistic childhood as part of a particularly broken family?
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  6. We started WWII to protect poland by allying with the USSR, which attacked Poland at the same time as Germany We then gave Poland and half of Europe to the USSR, which had already murdered tens of millions of people Then we made movies and called ourselves heroes, lol
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  7. "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans, one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf.Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson
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  8. If deliberately creating a firestorm in a city in order to incinerate as many civilians as possible isn't a war crime - then what is?
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  9. No one even knew - even Churchill didn't know, so why would CHLDREN know?
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  10. So you'd be OK with someone from Vietnam or Iraq incinerating an entire US city, and all your family? Because your children reaped what they sowed?
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  11. It was necessary to give Stalin half of Europe - what a victory for freedom
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  12.  @306champion  and this was one?
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  13.  @306champion  yeah I'm not here to defend Germany and Japan Just pointing out that we also committed attrocities - and that this good vs. evil thing is just dumb propaganda Remember, we allied with Stalin and gave him half of Europe
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  14. lots more quotes just like this one that mysteriously don't make it into these discussions
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  15. I don't think Hitler ever deliberately created firestorms in cities with the aim of killing as many civilians as possible Maybe he would of though I guess
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  16. No one mentioned anything about death camps until after the war
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  17. War crimes are only committed by those that don't write the history books
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  18. Cause tens of thousands of civilians were incinerated
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  19.  @patriciabrenner9216  So you admit now that it was a deliberate tactic - in one day you have completely reversed your position Maybe you should stop spamming the comments seeing as you don't know anything about the subject
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  20. "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans, one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst..... Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson
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  21. So war crimes don't exist?
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  22. Imagining the death of children and being happy about it - what a disturbed psycho you must be
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  23.  @phlm9038  Nope - Churchill didn't even mention it once in his massive book on WWII If they has known it would have been used as propaganda constantly to justify the war
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  24.  @warhead_beast7661  And the British invented concentration camps in the Boer War
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  25. So why even have a court for war crimes? Just let anyone incinerate entire cities of people
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  26.  @asafb1984  helping Stalin was a good thing?
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  27. 400 people died in Coventry, not really comparable is it
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  28. Only a few hundred people died in most of the towns you listed We're talking about deliberately incinerating hundreds of thousands of civilians and refugees
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  29. "Kurt Vonnegut wrote a book called , or  about the Dresden raid. For many years I had intended to write a book on the bombing. Now I do not need to write it, because Vonnegut has written it much better than I could. He was in Dresden at the time and saw what happened. His book is not only good literature. It is also truthful. The only inaccuracy that I found in it is that it does not say that the night attack which produced the holocaust was a British affair. The Americans only came the following [p. 29] day to plow over the rubble. Vonnegut, being American, did not want to write his account in such a way that the whole thing could be blamed on the British. Apart from that, everything he says is true." Freeman Dyson
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  30. "Of course, Germany started the war and were the aggressors" - you sure about that?
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  31.  @dirgsuite5546  the USSR attacked many countries and murdered tens of millions of people before the war even started They attacked Poland at the same time as Germany Yet we allied with them and gave them half of europe History is lies agreed upon The war had nothing to with fighting evil - that kind of nonsense is just how you sway the masses
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  32. We didn't respond in kind, we responded 100x in kind
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  33.  @moss8448  So why did we ally with the USSR? They attacked Poland at the same time and enslaved it for 50 years
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  34.  @moss8448  and that's why we allied with Stalin? And have him half of Europe? Step away from the propaganda
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  35. Britain declared war on Germany
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  36.  @Newbonic  Except we didn't declare war on the USSR did we? We allied with them and gave them half of Europe - including Poland So the treaty was obviously a much wanted pretext that had nothing to do with saving Poland or fighting evil As if we would start a world war over the Danzig Corridor - that would be completely insane
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  37. "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans,* one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf.† Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson, British Bomber Command
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  38. So do war crimes exist or not?
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  39. He has to keep his ad revenue flowing
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  40. So the allies can't commit war crimes?
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  41. How many of 2 million Vietnamese civilians murdered by the US thought about the 'why'? Would you be OK with someone from Vietnam incinerating New York?
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  42. Yeah, when historians are pit in prison, it's because they have something interesting to say
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  43.  @agentkaos1768  You've grown up interested in history - which is commendable But you've spent you've entire life watching documentaries like 'World at War' and probably even movies thinking you were learning about the past Everything you think is true is total nonsense - and once you actually decide to use your own brain that will become apparent Let's just look at what actually happened in WWII - the British Empire allied with Stalin (who had murdered tens of millions of people, sent millions more to the gulags and invaded dozens of countries before the war even started) We then destroyed Germany and and gave half of Europe to the USSR Supposedly the war was triggered by the invasion of Poland - despite the fact that Stalin invaded Poland at the same time and enslaved it for 50 years, as well performing atrocities like the Katlyn Forrest massacre We gave away half of Europe to communism and called it a victory for freedom - what? But you can't help yourself, you're so attracted to these nonsense stories that we all grew up with that you dare not even play devil's advocate Get back to watching Saving Private Ryan you propagandized fool
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  44. Is the US currently begging to have New York incinerated given it has invaded countless countries and killed millions since WWII?
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  45. also terror acts
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  46. The UK declared war on Germany
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  47.  @joeyjamison5772  So? That means we can incinerate tens of thousands of women and children?
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  48.  @groovechampion1462  400 deaths, not really the same is it
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  49. 400 people died in coventry, at least 40,000 died in Dresden
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  50. So why do we have the Hague?
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  51. About a million times worse than anything happening in Ukraine
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  52.  @patriciabrenner9216  the Ussr killed tens of millions, but we allied with them and gave them half of Europe As for death camps, no one knew anything about them until the soviets found them, so the bombing had nothing to do with it - it was cold blooded murder Great to see you celebrating the murder if children, psycho
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  53.  @patriciabrenner9216  Ukraine was part of the USSR because it had been invaded by the USSR - and then decimated by the Holodomor and slavery, causing many millions of deaths
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  54. Germany didn't start the war - we started the war by declaring war on Germany and allying with Stalin Incinerating hundreds of thousands of civilians is a war crime
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  55. So if a country doesn't surrender, that means we can incinerate entire cities full of women and children? That's your logic?
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  56. 300 people died in Coventry At least 30,000 died in Dresden
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  57.  @crabbytemptations1771  the UK declared war on Germany
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  58. Do war crimes exist or not?
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  59. Way over 25,000
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  60.  @GrrMeister  not very similar
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  61. They didn't start the war
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  62.  @patriciabrenner9216  WWII started when Britain and France declared war on Germany Since when did invading a country mean the entire world had to go to war? The USSR invaded Poland at the exact same time as Germany - yet we allied with them and gave them half of Europe The British Empire controlled about 1/3 of the world and regularly invaded countries - no one decided to make a world war out of it
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  63. Don't expect any 'historian' to look into this, they care more about money
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  64. Unfortunately 'historians' are more concerned about their paycheck than truth
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  65. Millions died in Vietnam - so is it OK if someone incinerates everyone in New York?
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  66.  @Dutcheh  So Stalin was an ally - the guy who murdered tens of millions of his own people and enslaved half of Europe
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  67. 300 people died in Coventry, over 30,000 in dresden
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  68. They grew up watching 'The Great Escape' and 'Dambusters' - think they were heroes
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  69. When they throw historians in prison for what they write - I suggest reading their books
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  70. May they one day find it in their hearts to forgive us for what we did
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  71.  @walterCronkitesleftshoe6684  Firstly, Britain started bombing German cities before Germany started bombing British cities Secondly, the number of deaths in Britain pales into total insignificance compared to what we did to them - we raised entire cities to the ground As for expansionism - why was it OK for Britain to rule over 25% of the globe and for the USSR to take over half of Europe, but not OK for Germany to also want colonies and expansion? You make it sound like the British Empire launched a war in the name of democracy - which is insane, it ran a race based dictatorship on land it had won via conquest in much of the world The USSR invaded Poland at the same time as Germany, and then enslaved half of Europe for 50 years. They also killed tens of millions of people and invaded dozens of countries before the war even started - yet we allied with them and called Stalin Uncle Joe As for women and children in Dresden 'recoiling in horror' - did you really just write that? And are you seriously suggesting that if they did, then bomber command would suddenly have decided to not murder hundreds of thousands of civilians? Seriously, step away from the propaganda - the winners write the history books
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  72.  @walterCronkitesleftshoe6684  The jewel in Britain's empire was India - so that destroys that argument As for giving Stalin half of Europe, this was agreed to at the Yalta conference and was why the USA and Britain deliberately slowed their advance on Berlin The idea that I would fight for Poland is insane, just like the official propaganda that the British empire launched a global war over Poland is insane However Germany was more than capable of saving Europe from communism alone Both world wars were completely unnecessary and tragedies for Britain and European civilization I would have been an absentee, watching on with bemusement as men incinerated entire cities for money
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  73.  @walterCronkitesleftshoe6684  good to know that you would find it correct for Iraq to incinerate London and murder hundreds of thousands of people Makes you a total psycho, but good to know
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  74.  @walterCronkitesleftshoe6684  so you would have used nuclear bombs on cities and murdered hundreds of thousands of people What a psycopath
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  75. No historian will go there The one's that do lose their careers
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  76. "It's hard to feel sorry for a country that supported a man and a political machine that murdered tens of millions of innocent men, women, children and babies in country after country" Yet we did just that by allying with Stalin - then we allowed him to enslave half of Europe
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  77. Stalin killed millions also and went on to enslave half of Europe, but we allied with him
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  78. Fake picture at 05:48
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  79. "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans,* one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf.† Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson, British Bomber Command
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  80. Any Americans viewers might be shocked to learn that historian David Irving was sent to prison for what he wrote I suggest finding his books for free online
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  81. By that logic you could do absolutely anything and claim its justified
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  82.  @501sqn3  Right - so by your logic it's OK to wipe entire cities off the face of the planet, to literally burn to death hundreds of thousands of women, children and refugees Ok thanks psycho
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  83. If that sounds horrible, you should read about the British empire and the USSR
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  84. Freeman Dyson resigned over Dresden - worth reading
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  85. Why would you idolize a Georgian who murdered tens of millions of Russians?
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  86.  @dirgsuite5546  no, I think the winners write the history books
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  87. The USSR murdered tens of millions of its own citizens, put millions more in death camps, and invaded dozens of countries before the war even started They then went on to enslave half of Europe - yet you claim they were the good guys and did no real harm
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  88. Freeman Dyson worked for bomber command, as did the others that people have quoted
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  89. The US started multiple wars this century alone
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  90. Just another propaganda channel
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  91. They never gave the UK or anywhere in Europe total war
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  92.  @exeexecutor  Germany wanted peace with Europe and tried endlessly to get it
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  93.  @exeexecutor  you seem to be very happy about the Dresden thing, good for you
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  94.  @FreeIsraelll  no one knew about that then, it wasn't mentioned anywhere until after the war
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  95.  @FreeIsraelll  how very old testament of you
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  96.  @FreeIsraelll  at that point no one knew, so logically it makes no sense
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  97. Stalin killed tens of millions of his own people, we allied with him
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  98. Same thing didn't even come close to happening in London
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  99. 300 people died in Coventry At least 30,000 in Dresden
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  100. The fact that people like yourself exist disgusts me
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  101. You gave Stalin half of Europe
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  102. Britain declared war on Germany
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  103.  @moss8448  I'll answer it for you right here: WWII had absolutely nothing to do with fighting for freedom or saving poland
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  104.  @moss8448  Good question - you won't find the answer from 'historians' unfortunately
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  105.  @moss8448  The USSR had killed tens of millions of its own citizens, put millions more in gulags, and invaded multiple countries before the war even started It attacked Poland at the same time as Germany and went on to enslave half of Europe Why did we start a world war because Germany wanted to fight the USSR? How was losing half of Europe to the USSR a victory for freedom?
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  106.  @moss8448  I don't really understand your argument - Hitler was hugely popular in Germany and oversaw a massive rise in living standards The USSR murdered tens of millions of its own citizens, created an evil police state and gulag system, and invaded multiple independent countries BEFORE the war even started The USSR also attacked Poland at the same time as Germany Yet we allied with them and gave them half of Europe Germany wanted back the land it lost due to the Versailles treaty and probably wanted a war with the USSR - so what? The war was a complete disaster for freedom and democracy Also, Britain had the world's largest ever empire at the time throughout which democracy was mostly unknown - why was that OK?
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  107.  @moss8448  How was Stalin not a monster? What had Hitler done in 1939 that was so outrageous compared with the USSR and British empire?
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  108. This channel toes the party line
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  109. I heard that David Irving speaks excellent German
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  110. But we were the good guys remember, fighting for democracy remember - lol History is lies agreed upon and nothing else
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  111.  @TheImperatorKnight  We allied with Marxists and gave them half of Europe and called it a victory for democracy History (as taught) is literally a bunch of lies that makes no sense of any kind to even the least enquiring of minds We can't even discuss many of the more obvious subjects as your channel would be censored - something I would hate to see as I like it a lot
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  112.  @TheImperatorKnight  The war had nothing to do with fighting for democracy We allied with a police state that had murdered tens of millions of its own people and invaded multiple countries before the war even started Then we allowed it to take over half of Europe - gee what a victory for democracy
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  113.  @TheImperatorKnight  the USSR murdered tens of millions of its own citizens and put millions more in the gulags To compare that with the rest of Europe at that time makes no sense We allied with that disgusting regime and gave it half of Europe - including Poland
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  114. About 400 people died in Coventry - what are you talking about?
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  115.  @simonpitt8145  So do war crimes exist? Should we just forget about the Hague, Geneva convention, etc.... We deliberately incinerated entire cities full of civilians, children and refugees with the deliberate aim of killing as many of them as possible If that's not a war crime then what is? The 'blitz' in the UK was not comparable to any degree at all
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  116.  @fanniinnanetguy653  sup psycho
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  117. Churchill wrote a 1,200 page book on WWII and didnt mention the camps once
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  118. How many children do you think he killed?
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  119.  @d.k8257  seriously, go outside for a walk and have a think
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  120.  @jonathankovacs1809  why was it bad to follow Hitler, but good to support Stalin? We killed more people in one night of bombing in Dresden than died during the entire blitz Then we gave half of Europe to Stalin Then we called it a victory for freedom
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  121. Why would Irving be accidentally correct? His book was accepted by all leading historians at the time and was promoted by the media in all countries
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  122. So you agree the Allies were monsters as well?
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  123.  @TonyGonzales2  It was the Allies that nuked cities full of innocent civilians, not the other way round
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  124. ​ @TonyGonzales2  The US and UK recently started three wars with Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq - does that mean they can expect to have entire cities of innocent people incinerated?
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  125.  @TonyGonzales2  The USSR also invaded Poland - so does that mean we could have dropped an H bomb on Moscow?
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  126. The annihilation of cities like Dresden was key to helping Stalin enslave half of Europe
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  127. There's no comparison, London was barely touched relatively speaking
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  128. The US seems to have done OK this century
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  129. He knows where his money comes from
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  130.  @TheImperatorKnight  there's certain subjects that you can't cover or you would lose your channel That's obviously not your fault though
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  131. Incinerating tens of thousands of women and children was necessary?
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  132.  @jamesanthony5681  by that logic you could wipe out entire cities whenever you felt like it
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  133.  @jamesanthony5681  ah, so the allies cannot commit war crimes, ok got it
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  134.  @jamesanthony5681  I'm fairly sure incinerating an entire city is a war crime
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  135.  @jamesanthony5681  "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans, one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf. Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson
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  136.  @jamesanthony5681  300 people died in Coventry
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  137.  @jamesanthony5681  yeah, the numbers aren't comparable But that's not the point, a war crime is a war crime
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  138. Was Stalin not a psychopath?
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  139. "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans, one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst......Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson
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  140.  @alek1766  Fan of Stalin were you?
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  141.  @alek1766  Well the bombing was planned to help Stalin enslave half of Europe
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  142. Only the losers perform war crimes apparently
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  143. How many children do you think he incinerated?
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  144.  @patriciabrenner9216  The women and children that did that weren't in Dresden
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  145. 'estimated'
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  146.  @manfredconnor3194  400,000 people
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  147. According to Freeman Dyson, British Bomber Command, the Dresden number is at lest 80,000
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  148.  @Finnbobjimbob  Freeman Dyson, British Bomber Command, disagrees with you
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  149.  @Finnbobjimbob  he wasn't a pilot, he was a famous scientist and a key part of strategic bombing command/intelligence It was literally his job to understand the numbers
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  150. You enjoyed children being incinerated You sick degenerate
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  151.  @tonyclough9844  300 people died in Coventry We killed more than 30,000 people in just one night in Dresden - and that's a very low ball number According to Freemen Dyson we killed 400,000 Germans in total via bombing
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  152. It's safe to say it was hell on earth
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  153. Weird how Churchill never mentioned them in his over 1,000 page book on the war
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  154. Hey psycopath
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  155.  @patriciabrenner9216  Surely the USSR was also monstrous?
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  156. All mainstream historians lie - so we are left to piece together the truth ourselves
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  157. No, Britain started it by bombing berlin
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  158.  @Newbonic  176 people died in Coventry - tens of thousands of people died in Dresden
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  159. But it was OK for Britain to have the world's largest ever empire?
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  160.  @blank557  and it was OK for Stalin to murder tens of millions of his own citizens, send millions more to the gulags, invade multiple countries and then take over half of Europe This was a moral war fought for freedom? lol
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  161. It did go to plan though - the plan was to create a firestorm and destroy the entire city and kill as many civilians as possible Not just in Dresden, but throughout Germany
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  162.  @Nolant.  How Orwellian of you
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  163. His job is to discredit the likes of Irving
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  164. No real historian believes the 25,000 number
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  165. You can't really compare Clydebank to Dresden mate - it's laughable to do so
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  166.  @williamwallacedebruce9221  there were 500 deaths in Clydebank At least 25,000 died in Dresden
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  167. Why would that make incinerating tens of thousands of women and children ok?
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  168. The US has killed millions of innocent people since WWII It dropped more bombs on Vietnam than all of the bombs dropped by all nations during WWII It wiped out 3 nations in recent years alone
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  169.  @agentkaos1768  lol, step away from the propaganda
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  170.  @agentkaos1768  so did all Europeans The British and french empires are two obvious examples Germany wanted a slice of the pie
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  171.  @agentkaos1768  you're the one first advocating the incineration of tens of thousands of innocent people And secondly giving of half of Europe to Stalin Not me
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  172.  @agentkaos1768  either you think incinerating tens of thousands of innocent people was one of the worst war crimes in recorded history or you don't Either you think fighting to give Stalin half of Europe was insane or you don't Stalin killed tens of millions of his own people, sent millions more to the gulags, and invaded multiple countries before the war even started We called him uncle Joe and gave him half of Europe Then called it a victory for freedom Step away from the propaganda and use your own brain
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  173. Right, only the losers commit war crimes
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  174. David Irving wrote an amazing and highly acclaimed book on this event Start there, then read his other (suppressed) books on Churchill and the war in general
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  175.  @TheImperatorKnight  Nothing we are told about WWII is based in reality - nearly all professional historians simply lie or self reference one another As an example look how long it took to finally admit who committed the Kattyn Forest massacre His book was highly acclaimed when written - it was only when he went 'off message' that his credibility was doubted We will never know the exact number What we know is that we performed some of the worst war crimes in all of recorded history on innocent women, children and refugees Yet pretend we were fighting 'evil'
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  176.  @TheImperatorKnight  I don't trust anyone as everyone lies, is biased or censored What we do know for a fact is that we live in a propaganda state where the authorities lie to us, especially when it comes to things like war Irving is no doubt flawed, but I'd far rather read his books than some official propaganda piece Some of his insights into Dresden and Churchill and other elements of the war are incredibly interesting - and he has paid the price for going off message with his career People should be encouraged to read his books - which can be found for free - and make their own minds up As for the total number of deaths - we have no idea, no one even knew how many people were in the city at that time What we do know is that it was one of the biggest war crimes in all of recorded history, and it wasn't a one off If you are going to criticize Irving, then why not also criticize all the other historians who literally lie for a living I again point to the Kattyn Forest massacre as just one example where 'professional' historians lied to the public for decades
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  177.  @TheImperatorKnight  Irving's books on Dresden, Hitler and Churchill are fascinating and essential reading to anyone interested in WWII The man was sent to prison for not toeing the line I suggest people find out what he had to say
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  178. "correct number of dead" - whatever makes you cope bro
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  179. Very convenient for the Allies
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  180.  @patriciabrenner9216  Fascinating to know that you would have no problem of any kind with New York being fire bombed and its millions of civilians being incinerated I mean it makes you a total psychopathy - but fascinating to know
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  181. They didn't start the war
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  182. Weird how Churchill never talked about those camps in his over 1,000 page book on WWII
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  183. Why would it make sense to help Stalin enslave half of Europe? How was that a good thing?
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  184. Stalin killed millions of his own citizens and enslaved half of Europe, yet we allied with him
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  185. Murdering children - so brave
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  186. 400 people died in Coventry - give it a rest
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  187. But the Allies didn't know about that, neither did anyone in Dresden
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  188.  @pacificrailproductions5281  so why didn't the allies use the death camps as war propaganda to motivate the soldiers and the public? If Churchill didn't know, with his access to all German communications, then Germans didn't know either
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  189.  @pacificrailproductions5281  How could a civilian in Dresden know when Winston Churchill and every other member of Allied intelligence didn't know?
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  190. The US has started multiple wars this century alone, killing at least hundreds of thousands
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  191. How many children did he kill?
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  192. 550 people died in Coventry - well over 50,000 died in just one night in Dresden
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  193.  @patriciabrenner9216  You been watching Schindler's List again? And what would that have to do with civilians living in Dresden? By that logic every Jew in the world is guilty for any crime of committed by a Jew - makes no sense of any kind. And are you claiming the people doing the bombing were time travelers? Because there were no claims of death camps until they were liberated by the Soviets in 1945. You just sound like a psychopath, delighting in the murder of innocent women and children,
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  194.  @patriciabrenner9216  even the children?
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  195.  @patriciabrenner9216  it killed its own? You mean the people in the countries it invaded like Ukraine?
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  196.  @patriciabrenner9216  We aren't talking about Russia, we're talking about the Soviet Union - a new country that invaded dozens of countries before WWII an murdered tens of millions of people, especially in Ukraine Stalin wasn't even Russian
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  197. Britain declared war on Germany, not vice versa
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  198.  @womble321  why was it ok for the USSR to attack it's neighbors, including Poland? Why was it ok for Britain to have a huge empire throughout which democracy was mostly unknown? You think that world war and the loss of half of Europe to communism was the best response to Germany wanting the land it lost in WW1? As for Britain, the war left it bankrupt and nothing but a lapdog of the US
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  199.  @womble321  we didn't liberate countries, we gave half of Europe to the USSR Churchill wrote a 1,200 page book on WWII without mentioning death camps at all Britain finished the war bankrupt and a lapdog of the US
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  200. Britain ruled the world and allied with Stalin who killed tens of millions and enslaved half of Europe Why was that acceptable to you?
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  201. No - we declared war n Germany, not the other way round
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  202. Can it really
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  203. Nope, they were interested in killing as many people as possible
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  204.  @mcquiggd  Were they not turned into lampshades?
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  205.  @mcquiggd  it's a serious question I saw it on the world at war documentary by the BBC, and it was reported in all newspapers
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  206.  @lorddaver5729  Yeah, and I assume you agree that was a terrible thing?
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  207. The UK started the war
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  208. Britain declared war, not Germany
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  209.  @douglasbuck8986  the USSR attacked Poland at the same time, yet we allied with them and let them enslave the country
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  210.  @douglasbuck8986  They both attacked Poland, as part of their agreement, practically at the same time So why did we ally with the USSR? The USSR had murdered tens of millions of its own citizens and invaded multiple countries before the war even started Then it attacked Poland at the same time as Germany So why did we ally with them and allow them to enslave half of Europe? History is nothing but nonsense propaganda to fool the masses - as if we cared even in the slightest bit about Poland We ourselves had a massive empire, throughout most of which democracy was unknown Stop watching World at War and the BBC
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  211.  @douglasbuck8986  Communism wasn't new and had involved the murder of tens of millions of people, the sending of millions more to the gulags and the invasion of multiple countries - all while creating a horrendous police state We chose to ally with that monstrosity and to give it half of Europe
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  212.  @douglasbuck8986  the USSR had taken over multiple countries and murdered tens of millions of people What aren't you understanding here?
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  213. Around 300 people died in Coventry
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  214.  @markpaul8178  about 30,000 over 5 years for England More than that died in just one night of bombing in Dresden
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  215. The incineration of tens of thousands in New York?
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  216.  @Nobody-Nowhere-USA  ah, we were fighting evil, by allying with Stalin and giving him half of Europe Lol,. ok
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  217. So you would understand Iraq, Libya or Afghanistan using nukes to wipe out tens of millions of US and UK citizens?
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  218.  @lancelot1953  Have I ever served? You mean "Have I ever killed people for a Central Bank with secret shareholders?" No, I don't do that
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  219. Right, so collective punishment is your thing
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  220.  @StephanieElizabethMann  So you support the deliberate incineration of hundreds of thousands of civilians via firestorm bombing because of the acts of political leaders that were completely unaffected by such bombing? Really nice person you must be Would you be OK with someone incinerating millions of people in New York because the US invaded Iraq?
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  221. By allied soldiers you mean the USSR? So we incinerated tens of thousands of women and children to help Stalin enslave half of Europe. Wow, so awesome
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  222. Yeah, basically we ensured Stalin took over half of Europe
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  223. Lol
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  224. Serious question: Did he hate the USSR as well, seeing as they invaded Poland at the same time, enslaved it for 50 years and performed atrocities like the Katyn Forrest massacre?
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  225. Your own leaders killed more Russians than that before the war even started
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  226.  @khajiitty  imagine fighting for a regime led by a Georgian that killed tens of millions of Russians and put many millions more in gulags, then enslaved half of Europe And being proud of it, lol
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  227.  @alisha8099  You're happy that the USSR enslaved half of Europe? We all grew up hearing the same nonsense about WWII Time you now start figuring out the actual truth If you think the British Empire and Stalin united forces in the name of Poland and democracy then you have been watching too many Hollywood movies As for being 'happy' that hundreds of thousands of German civilians and refugees were incinerated - What? Seriously? Like what is wrong with you?
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  228.  @Filthy_Freeaboo  The British Empire had to murder hundreds of thousands of civilians to help Stalin enslave half of Europe in the name of democracy - right OK
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  229. It was an invitation to take over half of Europe
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  230. So why have the Hague?
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  231.  @berndf.k.1662  David Irving wrote a great book on it, I'd say he's closer to the truth than most professional historians But we'll never really know
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  232. Tens of thousands of incinerated women, children and refugees don't deserve sympathy?
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  233.  @Tom_Cruise_Missile  it was one of the worst war crimes on all history If you can't feel sympathy for the incineration of tens of thousands of innocent people then you're a monster
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  234.  @Tom_Cruise_Missile  what's your point? Are you claiming the incineration of tens of thousands of innocent people wasn't a heinous war crime?
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  235.  @DickCheneyXX  why did we ally with stalin then? He killed far more people before 1939
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  236.  @cheesetomato9140  300 people died in Coventry
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  237. Horrifying outlook - you disgust me
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  238. Stalin killed millions of his own citizens, sent millions more to gulags, and invaded dozens of countries Yet we allied with him Where's your logical consistency?
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  239. The US killed around 2 million civilians in Vietnam - so as long as you are prepared to accept the possibility of Vietnam incinerating New York and millions of people one day then fair enough I guess that would at least mean what you say
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  240. Yeah, murdering children, so awesome
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  241. Exactly, this channel is as biased as any other mainstream mouthpiece It was one of the worst war crimes in recorded history
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  242. What is wrong with you? Were you born evil?
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  243. Yes, incinerating an entire city full of women, children and refugees is a war crime The fact that it was done to help Stalin enslave half of Europe makes it all the more evil and insane
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  244. Churchill wrote a 1,000 page book on WWII and never mentioned these camps or deaths once
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  245. Then the USSR would have taken even more of europe
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  246. The US chose Bush and killed many hundreds of thousands in Iraq The US chose Kennedy and killed around 2 million Vietnamese So I guess you would accept the incineration of an entire US city in retribution
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  247. Did he manage to kill any children?
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  248. 40,000 people died in the blitz - half a million Germans were incinerated
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  249. By the Allies you mean Stalin and the USSR - which murdered tens of millions of its own people and enslaved half of Europe?
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  250. Yes
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  251. Both sides committed war crimes Dresden was one of the worst war crimes in all of recorded history
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  252. Don't expect truth from 'historians'
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  253. A few hundred deaths
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  254. If you get what you sow then that means we can expect Germans to one day repeatedly firebomb our largest cities and kill hundreds of thousands of civilians
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  255. "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans,* one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf.† Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson, British Bomber Command
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  256.  @Nolant.  It was literally his job in the war - and these are only direct casualties When you add in all the deaths caused by supply chain damage, disease and the general collapse of society, the number grows and grows A deliberate attempt to kill millions of women and children via incineration All to help Stalin enslave half of Europe What heroes we were.....
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  257. So you're happy incinerating tens of thousands of innocent women and children
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  258. You must be a lovely chap
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  259. It was bombed to help the USSR take over half if Europe, as planned
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  260. Children don't vote
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  261.  @johnrgoodman  deserved to be incinerated did they?
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  262. Let me guess - the USA murdering 2 million Vietnamese was also justified? Amazing what you can get away with when you write the history books
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  263.  @patriciabrenner9216  "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans,* one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended" Freeman Dyson, British Comber Command
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  264. He would say it was great and not a war crime
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  265.  @CheapSquierBassPlayer  So incinerating tens of thousands of women and children is justified if your enemy doesn't surrender?
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  266.  @patriciabrenner9216  Good to know you enjoy incinerating hundreds of thousands of refugees, civilians and children Glad it makes you happy
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  267. Freeman Dyson from British Bomber Command disagrees with you "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans,* one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf.† Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson, British Bomber Command
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  268.  @danielread8549  bomber command disagrees with you
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  269.  @danielread8549  I gave you a direct quote from someone who worked at bomber command
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  270. Churchill was literally responsible for the destruction of Europe and Britain - yet is seen as a hero Just shows the power of propaganda
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  271. Compared to 'official' propaganda, yeah he is
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  272. Germany never did that to Britain, never came close to doing jt
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  273.  @FreeIsraelll  Churchill and bomber command didn't know about that at the time of the Dresden bombing Churchill didn't even mention it in his 1,200 page memoir on WWII Schindler's List was a good movie though
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  274. Employed by 'bankers'
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  275. So not only did we murder tens of thousands of women and children - we also helped the USSR enslave half of Europe Gee, that's awesome
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  276. The Germans unleashed unproved attacks on peaceful nations and acted abominably so So did the USSR - but we allied with them So did the British - that's how they built their empire How many people has the US killed this century alone?
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  277. So your father supported the murder of tens of thousands of women and children? Must have been a nice upbringing
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  278. Hitler was popular throughout much of Europe pre-war - and why was it OK to support Stalin?
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  279. So do war crimes exist or not?
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  280. This is how you allow communism to enslave half of Europe
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  281. Nope, the World War started when Britain declared war on Germany
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  282.  @TheImperatorKnight  the USSR invaded Poland at the same time
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  283. People under his command were the ones doing the questioning
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  284. @Peter Mauser a lot of psychopaths on the thread who believe only Germany can commit war crimes
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  285.  @mcquiggd  they also committed war crimes What's so hard to understand that both sides did evil things?
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  286.  @mcquiggd  I'm not really a revisionist when it comes to the British Empire - think it did both good and bad Just find it amazing that people can't accept that the Allies committed some of the worst war crimes in world history and helped Stalin enslave half of Europe As for Britain - we ended that war bankrupt and a lapdog of the US
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  287. Should the US and UK be wiped out for invading Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya?
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  288. Around 550 people died in bombing of Coventry Well over 50,000 died in one night of the bombing of Dresden, and there were many many such nights throughout Germany
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  289. We declared war on Germany and allies with Stalin - not the other way round
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  290. They own YouTube and Patreon
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  291. It was a deliberate attempt to create a fire storm and incinerate as many civilians as possible Freeman Dyson from Bomber Command made it clear that that was the intention, and they tried to do the same man other times Even according to him hundreds of thousands were incinerated that way
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  292. You sound happy
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  293. 300 people died in Coventry At least 30,000 died in Dresden
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  294. Health 'experts' - lol
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  295.  @arrow1414  seeing a doctor is one of the most dangerous things you can do The only exception is when you have an accident
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  296. It was necessary to help Stalin enslave half of Europe - as agreed upon
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  297. I heard there was a court case about that book
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  298. Saved Soviet lives - you mean helped Stalin enslave half of Europe
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  299. 300 people died in Coventry
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  300. By this definition there is no such thing as a war crime
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  301. Historians make stuff up, it's what they do
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  302. So it wasn't a war crime because Germany did bad things too?
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  303.  @kx4532  no one knew about any extermination activities then - that was only revealed way after the bombing In fact Churchill wrote a 1,200 page memoir on WWII without mentioning such camps even once
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  304.  @kx4532  nope, that was a war crime also Why is it so hard to understand that both sides engaged in attrocities Dresden was one of the worst attrocities in all of human history
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  305.  @kx4532  so we both agree it was a war crime, at last
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  306.  @lorddaver5729  of course they count
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  307. So you advocate incinerating tens of thousands of women and children - charming guy you must be
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  308. 300 people died in Coventry, tens of thousands dies in Dresden
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  309.  @toytoy1091  why would that make it ok to murder tens of thousands of civilians?
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  310. How many did Stalin murder before the war? 20 million? Yet we allied with him and gave him half of Europe
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  311. 550 people died in Coventry - well over 50,00 died in just one night in Dresden
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  312.  @walterCronkitesleftshoe6684  Well, I'm talking about the war between Britain and Germany Britain was first to bomb a city - Berlin. Germany retaliated - London. Germany killed approximately 40,000 British people via bombing during the war Britain killed more than 40,000 Germans in just one night of bombing - and there were many such nights It's not really comparable - what happened in Dresden was inconceivable horror Here's a quote from Freeman Dyson who worked at Bomber Command "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans,* one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf.† Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Murder pure and simple
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  313.  @walterCronkitesleftshoe6684  I have no problem with the British Empire - it's dumb to judge the past What I don't understand is why you think Germany was somehow evil for also wanting to expand and have colonies As for saving Europe - we gave half of it to Stalin, who had already murdered tens of millions of Europeans, invaded dozens of European countries, and sent tens of millions more to the gulags In what universe was that a good outcome for freedom?
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  314.  @walterCronkitesleftshoe6684  Learned their lesson? You mean when we incinerated hundreds of thousands of civilians? That's the lesson you're talking about? And in so destroying Germany, left half of Europe to be enslaved by Stalin What a victory for freedom and democracy
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  315. In Guernica, "One hundred and twenty seven civilians were killed and a further 131 died shortly after of their wounds" Horrible stuff but not exactly comparable to incinertaing hundreds of thousands of people
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  316. ​ @MrDaiseymay  The intention of the bombing of Dresden and many other German cities was to create a firestorm and incinerate as many people as possible That was the mission We killed at least half a million normal people, probably more If that's not a war crime - then we may as well do away with the term and just say that anything goes
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  317. Exactly, sheer common sense Unfortunately 'historians' are more concerned about their paycheck than truth
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  318. Proper historians don't down play the number of deaths in Dresden
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  319. Why would we want to help the Soviets? How could that possibly be a good thing?
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  320. ​ @salus1231  But we knew that the USSR had killed tens of millions of its own citizens, invaded many countries, and created a horrendous police state and gulag system How it could it possibly have made sense to give Stalin half of Europe? How could you possibly justify incinerating tens of thousands German women and children to help Stalin enslave half of Europe? How does any of that make sense morally or strategically?
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  321.  @salus1231  the horrors of the USSR were known for decades, just before WWII they invaded Finland and they invaded Poland at the same time as Germany Step away from the propaganda The British empire didn't ally with stalin out of some concern over freedom or democracy
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  322.  @salus1231  why would you want to help a psychopath take over half of Europe?
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  323.  @salus1231  we incinerated tens of thousands of women, children and refugees to give Stalin half of Europe Explain how that was a good thing?
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  324. You sound like a total psychopath, justifying the unjustifiable, I only hope you brought no children into this world
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  325.  @daleburrell6273  Stalin wasn't Russian
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  326.  @daleburrell6273  He was hated by Russians - the USSR murdered tens of millions of innocent people, and invaded dozens of countries before WWII even started Right before the war they even tried to invade Finland They also built a hideous gulag system that enslaved and worked to death many millions more They also invaded Poland at the same time as Germany They then went on to enslave half of Europe So please, if you can, tell me why it made sense to ally with this psycopath and to give him control of half of Europe?
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  327.  @daleburrell6273  Supporting Germany with aid to fight the horror of Communist expansion would have been the sensible move All Germany wanted was its rightful place at the table of great nations - which it has had for the last 50 years anyway There was no need to be involved in either WWI or WWII, especially not for the USA - just a horrific waste of lives In case you forgot - Russians hated Stalin, and countries like Ukraine that were 'liberated' by Germany greeted the Germen troops as heroes and wanted to help them fight the Soviets Take a step away from the propaganda - everything we were told about that war was just victors propaganda
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  328.  @daleburrell6273  No idea what you wrote - guess I'll just have to live without your WORDS OF WISDOM Now off you go back to the History Channel and Fox News
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  329. Yes we incinerated tens of thousands of women and children to help Stalin enslave half of Europe Then we called it a victory for freedom - and Morin's believed it
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  330. Does that mean it would be cool for people from Iraq and Libya to bomb US and UK cities for years to come?
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  331. The debate among the 'bleeding hearts' is whether it was a war crime I think everyone understands that bombing will unfortunately kill civilians But is it acceptable to create a firestorm in a city with the deliberate aim of killing tens of thousands of civilians? That's what the British did on numerous occasions, killing well over half a million people
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  332. "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans,* one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst. But from our point of view it was only a fluke. We attacked Berlin sixteen times with the same kind of force that attacked Dresden once. We were trying every time to raise a fire storm. There was nothing special about Dresden except that for once everything worked as we intended. It was like a hole in one in a game of golf.† Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson, British Bomber Command
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  333. Lol, Ok - let's just forget about the countless pleas for peace that Germany made with Britain so as to fight Communism, let's just pretend that never happened
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  334. No, we declared war on them
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  335. Pandemic, lol
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  336.  @kkeelty64  that sucks you lived through a pandemic man Everyone was just fine here
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  337.  @kkeelty64  brought to you by the same people that lied to you about WWII
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  338. Yeah, and it wasn't a one-off
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  339. The allied plan was to kill as many people as possible
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  340. The fact we declared war on Germany in the first place and allied with the evil USSR police state (giving it half of Europe) was a war crime in the first place The rest is propaganda
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  341. Germany didn't start the war though
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  342. I have relatives from Clydeside - Dresden was one of the worst war crimes in all of human history
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  343. Cool story bro
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  344. Calculations, lol
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  345. Ah, so it's OK to eliminate entire cities
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  346.  @josephdestaubin7426  Sounds like you are claiming that it's perfectly OK to wipe an entire city from the face of the earth as long as it has some factories or soldiers in it
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  347. "Next, this guy will make "documentary" saying the Holocaust didnt happen!" It's illegal to that - he would lose his channel instantly and probably face criminal proceedings You should probably ask yourself why it's illegal to research certain topics
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  348. We allied with Stalin mate - the war had nothing to do with fighting bad guys
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  349. enjoy the smell of incinerated children do you?
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  350. Apparently only the losers can commit war crimes
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  351.  @patriciabrenner9216  sup psychopath
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  352. No such thing as nukes bro
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  353.  @ronaldbobeck1026  I don't doubt such teams exist I doubt the bombs themselves are what they say they are
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  354. Quite an amazing system eh
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  355. War crimes are only committed by the side that lost it seems
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  356. So just get rid of the Hague then?
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  357. Plenty people would be willing to give their lives to bring back the hundreds of thousands of incinerated German civilians
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  358.  @nickjung7394  sounds like you hang around with horrible people
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  359.  @Wolf-hh4rv  that the incineration of tens of thousands of innocent people was a despicable war crime
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  360. When mainstream historians are caught lying, we have little alternative but to search elsewhere
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  361. Does anyone out there understand how the Cathedral in Cologne survived the war? Seems like a genuine miracle.....
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  362. Children were building gun sights for Nazi tanks?
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  363. No need for sensationalism - we incinerated tens of thousands of women, children and refugees on multiple occasions Thus making it easier for the USSR to enslave half of Europe
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  364. If you're happy with firebombing cities and murdering hundreds of thousands of civilians then you're a psychopath
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  365. Why does that make it ok?
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  366.  @Minimouse580  incinerating tens of thousands of women, children and refugees was ok in your book? What the hell is wrong with you?
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  367. The Japanese bombings were also war crimes, probably the worst in world history
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  368. How did they start it? We declared war on them. And because a country starts a war, the opponent cannot be judged for war crimes? What kind of logic is this? More people died in one night of bombing in Dresden than during the entire blitz
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  369.  @philsooty61  says the guy who approves of the incineration of tens of thousands of women and children And for what? So that Stalin could take over half of Europe, including Poland What a joke
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  370. So abolish the Hague?
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  371. The British Empire allied with Stalin to bring democracy to Poland - lol
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  372. ​ @Eo_Tunun  What's your point? That only the Germans could commit war crimes?
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  373.  @Eo_Tunun  yeah, we're talking about Dresden and how it was a war crime Incidentally, Churchill wrote a 1200 page book on WWII without mentioning the event you're talking about once
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  374.  @Eo_Tunun  the reason Dresden is focused on is obvious "We killed altogether about 400,000 Germans, one third of them in the two fire storms in Hamburg and Dresden. The Dresden fire storm was the worst..... Unfortunately, Dresden had little military importance, and anyway the slaughter came too late to have any serious effect on the war." Freeman Dyson
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  375.  @Eo_Tunun  as for not caring about why Churchill didn't mention death camps once in a 1,200 page book on WWII Lol, ok
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  376.  @Eo_Tunun  we allied with Stalin and gave him half of Europe - despite the fact he killed tens of millions and invaded multiple countries, including Poland, before the war even started One day you'll understand that everything about that war is nonsense Until then, enjoy thinking it was a war between good guys and bad guys, and keep watching that TV
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  377.  @Eo_Tunun  my numbers are a direct quote from Freeman Dyson, who worked for bomber command
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  378.  @Eo_Tunun  ok you convinced me, I won't quote bomber command numbers anymore and will take your word for it Thanks bro
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