Comments by "Janie Swanson" (@janieswanson2549) on "LADbible Stories" channel.

  1. And a blatant liar, hypocrite, and conman. He uses animal products. He isn't vegan. Just another grifter virtue signaling for cash.
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  2.  @rufus1013  "Do you even know what hypocrite means?" hypocrisy - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform. So you can't point out where I pushed a "belief" or "moral standard" to which I don't comply? I didn't think you could. You lied. "Assuming that you eat meat and claim that you love animals, then you are indeed a hypocrite." Who said I eat meat? You're making things up. Who said I love animals? You're making things up. It looks like your false accusations are based on fan fiction that you made up about me because you're a liar. You use animal products from the same dead animals that everyone else uses. Do you think it's okay for you? I win. BOOM 😂🤣
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  3.  @arvisvalit7960  You use animal products just like everyone else here. Why do you do it while acting like you're against it?
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  4. @plants4passions V The problem is people claiming to be vegan are just virtue signaling liars and hypocrites. Let's use you as an example. I gather from you're name that you're a person that claims to be vegan. The odd part is that you use animal products intentionally and needlessly. If I were to point out that you're not vegan by definition (vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products) you would just recite a cultish doctrine as justification for your blatant use of animal products instead of accepting facts.
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  5. @plants4passions V "you did not cite the entire definition." Actually I did. The definition of "vegan" created by the Vegan Society is: vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. "I’m not sure what source you discovered the meanings of veganism but the term vegan has a definition that is much longer than the one you’ve stated here." You're conflating the doctrine of veganism with the definition of vegan as I predicted you would. I will quote myself for you since you seem to have a reading comprehension problem. " If I were to point out that you're not vegan by definition (vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products) you would just recite a cultish doctrine as justification for your blatant use of animal products instead of accepting facts." Remember this? Veganism is a doctrine. "The word veganism shall mean the doctrine that man should live without exploiting animals.” - Leslie Cross author of "Veganism Defined" and inventor of the word. Veganism and vegan are different words with different definitions. You are neither vegan nor do you practice veganism. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly that are possible and practicable to avoid. Let me help you with the definition you butchered with your own ignorance. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose" A philosophy is not the definition of a person. You're not seeking to exclude animal products. You're using them for convenience, hobbies, and entertainment. Please get caught up on the facts before you make so many inane comments.
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  6. @plants4passions V "possible and practicable to avoid by who’s standards yours?" As predicted you will justify your personal use of animal products for convenience and entertainment. "Do you know of all my devout lifestyle choice?" I don't need to know it all to know you do in fact use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid. "So why assume that I’m not living in a way that is possible or practicable by MY way of life?" Because I am using objective facts instead of your lies, cultish nonsense, and fan fiction.
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  7. @plants4passions V Wow three comments. Triggered? Don't like facts? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? "I am vegan based on how I live." Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You at the very least use animal products. You're not vegan. "what animal products do I use without seeking the most exclusion?" I would think someone that claims to be vegan would be intelligent enough to find out the animal products you use needlessly. I guess the stereotype is true that you people are uneducated. Fat, gelatin, and bones. "oh this time it’s three responses posted separately" Diet giving you brain fog I would guess.
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  8. @plants4passions V "no trigger here - I don’t do guns I’m vegan remember hun?" It appears English is something you're still working on. triggered (adjective) - (of a response) caused by particular action, process, or situation. You're not vegan. You use animal products. You're a liar. "But I love giving my fellow humans a little info that they may have not known otherwise!" Funny that, you have not given any factual info and are just babbling misinformation and lies. "Someone has to speak for voiceless beings if people like me don’t do it I’m sure no one will!" You're using products made with those same voiceless beings for your own convenience and entertainment. You're just a hypocrite. "We will never be a cruelty free planet but we can always be Vegan while striding towards reduction." More lies and fan fiction. Very typical of you people. "It was nice chatting with you Janie - enjoyed this conversation!" Maybe when you stop being a virtue signaling liar and hypocrite you can learn where you were wrong instead of making inane comments.
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  9.  @rufus1013  Explain how I am a hypocrite. When did I push a "belief" or "moral standard" to which I don't comply? Good luck finding that. You can't. Anything else you want to lie about?
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  10.  @rufus1013  "You’re making things up. Who said I used products from dead animals?" Objective facts. You use animal products every time you comment. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and contain animal products. Fat, gelatin, and bones are used to make LCD screens, batteries, glass, processors, plastic, etc. Thanks for proving that you're uneducated and a liar. "Since you are arguing against vegans then I assume that you are not one." I am not arguing against vegans. I am pointing out facts to liars and hypocrites claiming to be vegan when they aren't. "So that means you eat dead animals and drink cow breast milk." Begging the question fallacy. Blatant lie. Prove it or you admit to being a liar...again. "I also assumed you claimed to love animals because only crazy people think they don’t." Another loaded statement based on opinions and feelings. Thanks for admitting you lied again. "So this is making me think you are a psychopath." Yay, more opinions as usual from you people. Try facts some time. It's the same old inane babble from you people. Assumptions, feelings, and opinions instead of facts. The best you have is opinions and assumptions that you're unable to prove. Care to try again? Still can't prove where I was a hypocrite? Still unable to admit you lied about calling me a hypocrite? LOL The ultimate win. You just got wrecked.
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  11.  @LifeandHorror  Yep. These people just virtue signal and prove their own hypocrisy every time they comment.
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  12. Speaking of ignorant. You actually think there are vegans? Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Animal products are in smart phones, computers, routers, servers, asphalt roads, carpet, refrigerators, microwaves, drywall, televisions, vehicles, etc... Look in to almond harvesting and check out the bee cost. Or look in to avocados and check the human cost involved.
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  13. It proves his hypocrisy and his follow up proves he is willing to justify his use of animal death for convenience and entertainment.
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  14.  @NoInjusticeLastsForever  "Non-vegans just make it seem complicated to give an excuse to not change." You're non-vegan just like everyone else. To be vegan a person can't eat or use animal products. Animal products exist in most everything we do from driving to whole foods to leaving a comment on youtube. "So stop hurting innocent animals for convenience and pleasure." Why won't you? Is there a reason that you're happy to use animal products for convenience while telling others they need to stop? "You can start today." So can you. Why haven't you? I predict you won't answer honestly. You will either not answer or you will spam me with babble. Thanks for the preemptive win.
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  15.  @NoInjusticeLastsForever  "I'll never understand the mentality of someone knowingly/unknowingly saying patently false things on the internet and then leaving comments on people's videos of those who correct them." That's exactly what you do. You knowingly claim to be vegan while not being vegan yourself and you knowingly push veganism on others while not practicing veganism yourself. Why do you use animal products needlessly while pushing a narrative you don't even live by? I know you won't answer this question directly and truthfully, I just want anyone reading to see your moral hypocrisy. I predict you will ignore the question, go into denial, ask me which animal products proving you don't do your own research, and/or use a doctrine as justification for using animal products needlessly for entertainment.
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  16.  @lifeoftennis1285  Stop making sense. The hypocrites pretending to be vegan can't handle logic and facts.
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  17.  @lordkedos  "Tusks are basically long canines." So you believe elephant tusks are canines? Elephant tusks are incisors. Teeth are irrelevant in diet type. Blue whales don't even have teeth and are carnivores.
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  18.  @rufus1013  You're incorrect. Humans consume more crops than livestock. The FAO lists human consumption of grown crops at around 70%.
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  19.  @rufus1013  "Yoy think your smart LOL 😂" Compared to you? Yes.
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  20.  @NoInjusticeLastsForever  Appeal to emotions. Livestock slaughter is both legal and they aren't human. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while acting like you're against it? I know you won't answer honestly. I just like others seeing you unable to practice what you preach.
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  21. Good because "vigan" isn't a word. I wonder what she would say about your spelling ability. I would say it's trash.
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  22.  @thekeysman1  "my anyone smart" huh? Do you're own research instead of blindly following propagandists and liars.
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  23.  @NoInjusticeLastsForever  You're comparing humans problems to livestock. You're appealing to emotions. "What's extreme is tormenting over two trillion animal annually for taste pleasure." You use animal products cut from the same dead animals just for entertainment pleasure. "It's real easy to comprehend what I said." What you said is hypocritical. You literally use animal products cut from the same dead animals that other people use while pretending you're against it. You preach that others need to stop using animal products while you continue to use them needlessly for entertainment. You're literally a hypocrite. hypocrisy - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform.
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  24.  @lukeh8056  Irrelevant to his question.
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  25. He started out by lying in the beginning. Nothing he says is worth listening to because he is nothing but a liar. He actually claims to be vegan.
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  26. He literally uses animal products needlessly for entertainment. That is contradictory to your first six words.
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  27. He literally uses animal products needlessly for entertainment. He lost all of his arguments before he even started because he isn't what he claims to be.
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  28. Some alternative titles. Hunter and guy pretending to be vegan go head to head. Watch how a grifter debates a hunter. Watch a hypocrite guy whine about animals while intentionally owning and using numerous animal products.
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  29. Ed literally uses animal products while pretending he is against using animal products. He lost the debate before he began.
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  30. Ed isn't really vegan. He just pretends to be to get subs, likes, and donations.
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  31.  @sterloin  Yes it is.
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  32.  @ish4638  He uses electronics. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers contain animal products. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. He uses these items that contain animal products to record, edit, and upload his videos. There you go. Anything else?
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  33.  @gigishroom  Okay... He uses animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and contain animal products.
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  34.  @NoInjusticeLastsForever  You accused me of eating animal products so the burden of proof is on you. I accept your concession.
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  35.  @lukeh8056  "would you mind explaining how a side product/waste product like tallow contributes to demand to the same extent that meat does?" So that is the route you're going to take this time? You admit to using animal products but call them "side product/waste product"? That is kind of funny and very typical of you hypocrites. I guess you didn't know there are factories that own their own slaughter houses and they kill cattle for tallow and gelatin and often don't even keep the meat. That would make it a product. Glad that you admit you're a hypocrite.
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  36.  @lukeh8056  Example: https://www.britannica.com/explore/savingearth/the-processing-of-gelatin "Gelatin processing plants are usually located near slaughterhouses, and often the owners of gelatin factories have their own slaughterhouses where animals are killed just for their skin and bones."
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  37. See how easy it is to pull down their arguments? Luke H spams that he is vegan all over the place while admitting to intentionally using animal products for entertainment. You can explain to him in 10 different ways how he is a lying hypocrite and he will always make up a justification for his hypocrisy. This time it was "side product/waste product" and he was shot down. Last time it was definitions. The time before it was something else. You are right. You can't have actual conversations with these people. They will backpedal until they just move on and stop replying. He is pretty much the norm as far as people claiming to be vegan.
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  38. The exact same number as the number of vegans living in the first world. Zero.
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  39. More die during crop production than hunting. 1 insect = 1 animal
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  40.  @NoInjusticeLastsForever  No one asked me a question here. I guess you're seeing things. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? Inb4 you ask me about what I eat without first proving your accusation that I eat animal products.
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  41. For comedy relief and proving that veganism is just a bunch of lies and hypocrisy. He literally use animal products intentionally and needlessly that are possible and practicable to avoid. He is his own enemy.
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  42.  @Selaphane  "Hyperbole, much?" No, just facts. "Can you name any of those products?" Yes. Fat, gelatin, and bones. Specific enough? "What is your source?" Manufacturer MSDS. Anything else?
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  43.  @Selaphane  "Show me proof that Earthlight Ed is using fat, gelatin, or bones in his products." Earthlight? What? LOL Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and contain animal products according to manufacturer MSDS sheets. You're free to look these up yourself as I am not going to link them for you. "Any specific videos you can point out where he is doing as such? " Yes, all of them. "Reliable sources?" Manufacturer MSDS. It's literally required by law for manufacturers to include chemicals they use publicly in the MSDS database. You will find Apple, Sony, Intel, Microsoft, LG, Motorola, etc.. all use animal products in the manufacturing process. So really you have nothing....you're just bombing me with questions out of ignorance? I am not your mommy. If you want to verify that is on you.
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  44.  @Selaphane  "Oh I see, you're appealing to futility." Wrong again. I guess you can't help yourself at this point. You went all in and found out I am right. You're the one appealing to futility. "Why do anything to help the environment if you can't do everything?" Again, still you appealing to futility. "So if someone does one morally thing wrong, then they must do everything morally wrong?" And you're still appealing to futility. "That's a non-sensical point of view." And all of it is your point of view. "Might as well litter as much as you can then because you can't do everything correct." And more nonsense....LOL Did you ever stop to think that he can reduce harm without lying about being vegan? Tell me more about Earthlight Ed.....whoever that is. So if there is nothing else. We can go ahead and call this my win. Since you have been wrong all along.
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  45.  @Selaphane  "I'm not the one appealing to futility" Actually, you are. I would quote you but I would rather you just read the inane babble you typed where you were appealing to futility. "I am stating what your argument justifies, that isn't mine." No you're attacking me with strawmen and making things up so I am easier to argue against. "You mentioned how he's a hypocrite and a liar." Because he is. Prove me wrong. "How so?" He lies. He uses animal products which means he is not vegan by definition. He uses animal products which are possible and practicable to avoid intentionally and needlessly which means he doesn't practice veganism. He practices hypocrisy by definition. He tells others they should be vegan while using animal products himself. hypocrisy (noun) - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform "Let's assume a vegan isn't allowed to use modern technology (which is just you moving the goalposts)." Still you. Now you're blaming me for something else I never said. The goal posts are simple. He isn't vegan by definition. He doesn't practice veganism by definition. He literally lies and literally practices hypocrisy. I have not moved any goalposts. "He's still reducing the amount of suffering." And? I didn't say that he didn't. He uses animal products intentionally and needlessly and practices hypocrisy by telling others they should be vegan. "How are you typing these comments on YouTube right now?" With my computer that I am using while never claiming to be vegan. "If anything, you're the hypocrite." Prove your accusation. hypocrisy (noun) - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform Where have I claimed to have moral standards or beliefs to which I do not conform? If you can't prove your accusation I will accept your concession.
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  46.  @Selaphane  Since you have not proven your accusation then you concede. You're concession is accepted. Thanks for agreeing that I am right and you are wrong.
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  47.  @Selaphane  "Lol, what kind of egoistic tripe is this?" Nothing like that at all. You made an accusation and you didn't back it up even after I asked you to. I answered everything using objective facts even though you were being confrontational. Don't remember? "If anything, you're the hypocrite." Prove your accusation. hypocrisy (noun) - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform Where have I claimed to have moral standards or beliefs to which I do not conform? If you can't prove your accusation I will accept your concession. I have politely answered all of your inane babble and you have done nothing but be offensive, use fantasy as sources, and make false accusations. "But, alright then" Thanks for agreeing that you're wrong. Your concession is accepted.
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  48.  @Selaphane  Two replies? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? "Also, your initial argument was literally already debunked." You already conceded. "You claimed Ed is a hypocrite because he doesn't adhere to the definition of a vegan." Now you're just lying. Are you so upset that you lost that you're making things up now? "I showed you that definition, Ed adheres to it." You showed me a cherry picked definition that isn't the official definition created by the Vegan Society....the one Ed Winters claims to use. "So, explain how somehow I conceded that you are right and I am wrong?" Having reading comprehension problems? I will paste it a second time. Maybe ask a parent for help. "If anything, you're the hypocrite." Prove your accusation. hypocrisy (noun) - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform Where have I claimed to have moral standards or beliefs to which I do not conform? If you can't prove your accusation I will accept your concession. "Prove me wrong that Ed isn't a vegan and you have won your initial argument," He uses the definition created by the Vegan Society. He doesn't use a cherry picked definition used in Oxford Dictionary. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. I win by your own admission. Thanks again for your continuing concession. You will not be getting any more answers as you continue lying and making things up that never happened. Learn how to tell the truth and be objective.
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  49.  @Selaphane  Lol. You're conflating the definition of "vegan" with the definition of "veganism." A vegan is a person. Veganism is a doctrine. Just more proof you lost this exchange are are doubling down with your ignorance. Thanks for the win and your continued concession.
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  50.  @Selaphane  "Oh, so being a vegan isn't practicing the philosophy of veganism?" Nope. Even it if was, Ed Winters does not practice the philosophy of veganism. "I guess being a Buddhist doesn't mean practicing the philosophy of Buddhism." So you think veganism is a religion? "Keep moving those goalposts and claiming victory" It still you moving those goalposts. "But, you're still ignoring the arguments I've presented which point out your logical fallacies." Actually I addressed them and pointed out they were your logical fallacies. Still can't prove my hypocrisy? Thanks for admitting you lied. Thanks again for the easy win and your concession. Why are the loudest voices for the veganism movement always turn out to be toxic liars and hypocrites? If you ever want to be objective instead of using your feelings, opinions, and random thoughts we can start again.
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