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They quickly realize they aren't responsible enough to take care of another life and end up getting it euthanized, letting it starve, etc... Then they make up a story about a friend they sent their new friend to who is a great person etc.
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@J-The-Researcher They are the same type of people who would take a dog from an owner they perceive as abusive and give it to a PETA shelter to be euthanized. They are the same time of people who would try to get well fed and happy lions put back in the wild. They are the same type of people who would break the law to steal foxes from fur farms just to release them into a habitat they will die in. They are just a bunch of virtue signaling hypocrites.
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No one in the video is vegan. Name one vegan that we should support.
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Bullets are cheaper than jail for trespassers.
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Livestock aren't raped. Livestock husbandry isn't illegal. The rest of your comment is probably just as disingenuous as the first bit.
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@NoInjusticeLastsForever You literally use animal products cut from the same dead animals that everyone else uses. Why are you such a hypocrite?
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The ag-gag laws just say it's illegal to use deception to film such things. If you ask the owners to come on their property for filming and you film it is not illegal. Just like it is illegal for people to come in to your house and start filming without permission.
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You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment. Why are you telling people to choose compassion when you choose to use animal products just like everyone else?
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Warning shots are more illegal than protecting your property with a firearm in most states. Best just to send them six feet under so they can't try to sue you later.
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@felixsatterly5031 Rape is illegal and uniquely human. Saying otherwise proves you're making things up and appealing to emotions.
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@felixsatterly5031 You're free to disagree with facts that you can't refute. It just means I win the argument. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment made from the same animals while acting like you're against it?
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@felixsatterly5031 And it is not illegal to impregnate livestock. If you want to whine about consent go whine at Joey Carbstrong who has pictures of himself kissing animals.
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@felixsatterly5031 When you called it rape. Rape is illegal and uniquely human. You made the claim and now you're backpedaling. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while acting like you're against it?
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@codydolanvegan Animal fat, gelatin, and bones.
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You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment. Maybe get off your high horse and practice what you preach instead.
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Caps lock get stuck or are you just crazy? You use animal products just like everyone else. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment? I know you won't answer this plainly and honestly but, I want others to see you just babble hypocrisy. I predict you won't answer, you will go into denial, and/or you will use a doctrine to justify your use of animal products.
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They don't get 60 years for freeing animals. Trespassing, burglary, vandalism, etc... are the laws they are breaking.
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The difference is most people dislike them now that they have shown they are just a bunch of criminals.
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Why do you use animal products needlessly while making that claim?
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Can't answer the question? I figured as much.
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Hopefully in 100 years there are also people who know the activists are just a bunch of virtue signaling hypocrites that deserved to be shot.
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You use animal products from the same animals. Are you admitting to being an extremist?
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They were all scared of doing it in a red state.
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The activists use animal products from the same dead animals that normal people use. They are just a bunch of virtue signaling liars and hypocrites trying to get attention.
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@SkinnyEastBro He just lies for fun. He literally uses animal products needlessly for entertainment while whining at his betters about doing the same thing. Just another virtue signaling liar and hypocrite.
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Virtue signaling hypocrites don't care about such things.
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@NoInjusticeLastsForever You literally use animal products cut from the same dead animals that everyone else uses. Why are you such a hypocrite?
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Why are you telling others to do what you're unwilling to do? Go be vegan yourself before you tell others to do it.
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Then stop using animal products yourself. Be the change you want to see.
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@abelabel3664 It's already legal in some states to kill people threatening your life and property. It's not necessary to break in to people's personal property and vandalize either. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? I know you won't answer this question directly and truthfully, I just want anyone reading to see your moral hypocrisy. I predict you will ignore the question, go into denial, ask me which animal products proving you don't do your own research, and/or use a doctrine as justification for using animal products needlessly for entertainment.
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@NoInjusticeLastsForever You use animal products cut from the same dead animals that you claim are being murdered. It's odd that your fight against injustice doesn't extend to yourself. That seems hypocritical.
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You claim you're shocked and yet you still use animal products needlessly for entertainment. Guess you're not really shocked at all.
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@hen4699 "Imagine if" What if it was unicorns and fire breathing dragons?!!??
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Buzzwords to appeal to emotions. Livestock can't be murdered. They aren't raped by definition. You're making things up and using logical fallacies.
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@hen4699 Two replies? Unable to keep your thoughts together? " Also I just love it when carnists " We have already came to the conclusion that you're a carnist. You intentionally and needlessly use animal products just like everyone else. "They are animals. not livestock, just animals." Simply drawing a line between human animals and non-human animals. Anything else? Maybe go on another hypocritical rant.
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@lawrencedouglas4 I think he was high.
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@Mike-hn7vc Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it?
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@plagednce1977 He can't answer because I have shown he doesn't practice what he preaches.
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@ultracobrax That farm still exists and those animals are still kept in the same conditions. They didn't have to do it in the first place and they changed nothing.
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@liberationtoday8968 Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment? I know you won't answer honestly without excuse. I just wanted anyone reading to be able to see your moral inconsistency.
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@liberationtoday8968 Can't answer a simple question then eh? I accept your ongoing concession.
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@codydolanvegan They use animal products in the video which proves they are not. No need to make things up.
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All of that nonsense and yet here you are using animal products needlessly while quoting religious texts. Typical...
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@amvet_gwot1969 Good to see you have nothing to refute me and are lashing out. I accept your concession.
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Trespassing is illegal.
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@NoInjusticeLastsForever You literally use animal products cut from the same dead animals that everyone else uses. Why are you such a hypocrite?
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And yet you literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment and convenience. Practice what you preach.
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Please do this in Iowa. Queue: Let the bodies hit the floor.
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@hen4699 Still spamming your betters I see. You use products made with the same dead animals. Practice what you preach. You won't....you would rather virtue signal and argue with your betters.
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@hen4699 And more comment spam after claiming you were done. You lied. You admitted to being a hypocrite. Since I am doing is outing liars and hypocrites, I win. Anything else person who claims they're done with me?
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@NoInjusticeLastsForever You use animal products cut from the same dead animals that you're whining about being abused. Why is it okay for you to abuse animals while you whine at your betters?
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That's why they did it in an extreme liberal state.
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@andrewmccool5923 Probably against virtue signaling liars and hypocrites like yourself.
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@midori7860 Just more appeals to emotion. Innocent is a buzzword when it comes to livestock. Besides, you use products made with the same dead animals that normal people use. You're just a hypocrite like all of the rest.
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@hen4699 More buzzwords and appeal to emotion. Livestock can't be murdered by definition. They are not human. "If you define morality as causing the least amount of suffering possible" I don't. Anyone that does define it that way and replying to me on youtube is actively practicing hypocrisy. Glad you agree with me that he is a hypocrite since you didn't say anything about that.
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@hen4699 I didn't imply his argument was less valid. I simply called him a hypocrite because he practices hypocrisy. He literally uses animal products. Anything else?
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@NoInjusticeLastsForever Cool quote. He was referring to people. More out of context rubbish only fit for the trash. Anything else? Perhaps you should start quoting yourself. You use animal products made with the same dead animals that everyone uses. Why is it okay for you to do that while you berate, babble, and throw out of context quotes at others for doing the same thing?
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Almost the same credibility.
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@NoInjusticeLastsForever Not even a comparison. Criminals are criminals. People using products made with animal death are just normal. It's the extremists like yourself that whine about what others do while you do the same thing that are idiots.
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@hen4699 "Hey Janie! I see you ignored my last comment!" This is your first comment in this thread. How could I ignore something that doesn't exist? Are you lying for fun or can you not stop? "Show me the evidence of when I said I was done with the conversation." "..I'm so done with this.." "If you can't," I did. You're a liar. "PS- Apparently you have been accusing people of being pedophiles?" Nope. Someone lied to you. I merely quoted what your new friend said. No injustice lasts forever 2 months ago "For every non child abuser I meet, I make sure to touch an extra child." Anything else liar?
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You might want to learn to be coherent and at least spell at a fourth grade level before you go shooting people.
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@hen4699 "If we stop eating meat, the torture these animals go through ceases as well." I don't see how it could be that bad when people like you who cry and whine the loudest about this supposed torture are participating in it just as much as everyone else. "Hey dog eater, give a convincing counter argument. I’m waiting." You use products made with the same dead animals intentionally and needlessly. Doesn't that counter what you're claiming to be a better way? Oh right...you claimed I was blocked and you're done with me. I win.
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@hen4699 And more comment spam after claiming you were done. You lied. You admitted to being a hypocrite. Since all I am doing is outing liars and hypocrites, I win. Anything else person who claims they're done with me?
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@kursor52 Okay? Are you sure you replied to the right person?
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@hen4699 "I admitted to “lying” and being a “hypocrite” LOL. You edited your comment. Try again liar.
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@hen4699 Making things up again? Thanks for another win.
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@hen4699 "And yet again you fail to provide proof that I deleted the "I'm done with this" comment" I never said you deleted that particular comment. Are you okay? You edited the comment above. Hen 13 hours ago (edited) Anything else liar? Thanks for the win as usual.
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@hen4699 4 replies? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? " Hen 14 hours ago (edited)" Originally you said. "I admitted to “lying” and being a “hypocrite” Then you edited it to. "Now you’re lying since you stated" This is the comment I am referring to above in this same thread. Are you okay? So now you're resorting to spam just like the rest of the people who lie about vegan.... Thanks for the easy an undisputed win. Anything else?
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@hen4699 Still replying eh? Still lying about being done. " YOU have failed to own up to the fact that you lied as well. " I don't need to own up to something that only happened in your head. "That also makes you a hypocrite. " Quote where I claimed to have moral standards or beliefs to which I don't conform? "I probably saw that a part was deleted and added back what I thought it originally said." So you admit to lying about me lying. Show me the comment where I stated I was done with the argument. "..I'm so done with this.." Thanks for the easy and endless wins against you hypocrites and liars.
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@RJGMorris "It's takes more plants to feed over 50 billion land animals than it does to feed 8 billion humans" And livestock feed is waste product from industry and grass. The fields that grow the grass usually can't grow much else. I guess you would rather we just dump all of that waste into thousands of dumps so the gas buildup is worse than a few cow farts. "How do you we justify needlessly killing a sentient being with the capacity to suffer and who does not want to die?" Because we like entertainment, convenience, and food. "But you will still be robbing them of there life needlessly and how do we justify that." Because we like entertainment, convenience, and food. "I'm sure if I killed someone in there sleep you would not be okay with it because it was painless." their* someone - an unknown or unspecified person; some person. Livestock aren't a person. You're conflating humans with animals to appeal to emotions. "r@pe" Another appeal to emotions. You're using words that only apply to humans. Livestock breed or are bred. "Domesticated animals are not going to overpopulate." Of course they won't because humans will continue to control their breeding instead of the wannabe vegan alternative of genocide. "We are artificially breading them into existence so if we stop breading them there numbers will go down not up." Are you okay? I know I have told you in the past to get a parent to help you. breading - a coating of breadcrumbs, typically on fried food. How does a coating of breadcrumbs make livestock exist? "Human and non human animal suffering are not mutually exclusive, you can care about them both." You can. And you can stop conflating the two while using appeals to emotions, lies, and hypocrisy. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while whining about how others use animal products? I know you won't answer this question directly and truthfully, I just want anyone reading to see your moral hypocrisy. I predict you will ignore the question, go into denial, ask me which animal products proving you don't do your own research, and/or use a doctrine as justification for using animal products needlessly for entertainment.
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@iftikharahmad5742 Watch how he ignores me, doesn't actually reply to what I said, or justifies his personal use of animal products with nonsense. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are all made with and contain fat, gelatin, and bones. He is literally a liar and a hypocrite who pushes propaganda and disingenuous lies all while pretending to be vegan for attention.
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You believe that because the WIKI says so? LOL
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@annim7907 You mean for beating his wife and his co-founder? They aren't black.
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@NoInjusticeLastsForever "Mind your own business and leave the animals alone. Real simple." If it is so simple, why don't you do it? You use animal products cut from the same dead animals that everyone else uses.
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@hen4699 And you whine at me for spamming you when you're spamming the comment section. Sigh... You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people use. Practice what you preach. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with animal products.
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@hen4699 "..I'm so done with this.." Still lying. "I "spam" the comment section with actual arguments while you spam ME just to call me a hypocrite." Actually you just lied and practiced hypocrisy a lot. I just refuted your babble with facts. Anything else?
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@andrewmccool5923 You use products made with the same dead animals. It must be okay with you to kill animals as well.
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@iii___iii Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with animal products. He spams replies using products made with animal products.
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People who lie about being vegan to push propaganda and lies are the real extremists.
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@hen4699 You're not vegan. You intentionally and needlessly use animal products. You're just a liar playing pretend.
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@hen4699 " I don't use animal products" Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and contain animal products. Every time you reply you're using animal products. Typical ignorance of people lying about being vegan.
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@hen4699 More virtue signaling. You use products made with the same dead animals that everyone else uses.
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@hen4699 "If we have other alternatives, why kill animals needlessly?" Good question. Look in the mirror and ask yourself. You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat. The alternative to replying with all of your virtue signaling babble is NOT replying at all.
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@hen4699 "..I'm so done with this.." And lying again. "How about you look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself why you need to justify exploiting animals SO bad I mean really, can you not think of anything else?" Quote me where I made such justifications or admit that you're a liar. "You're boring me." I imagine it is boring to argue with yourself over made up arguments. Anything else?
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Depends on the state/country/etc. In my state you can start shooting as soon as you "feel" threatened. A mob of 100+ rushing my property is threatening enough for me.
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@NoInjusticeLastsForever Murder is illegal and uniquely human. Livestock are legal to slaughter and they aren't human. You're appealing to emotions. As usual you use logical fallacies in place of critical thinking. You use animal products cut from the same dead animals that you claim are being murdered. It's odd that your fight against injustice doesn't extend to yourself. That seems hypocritical.
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@Spencer-lq3yd You intentionally and needlessly use animal products when you like. Why shouldn't everyone else?
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@hen4699 And you whine at me for spamming you when you're spamming the comment section. Sigh... You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people use. Practice what you preach. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with animal products.
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@hen4699 "..I'm so done with this.." Still lying. "I "spam" the comment section with actual arguments while you spam ME just to call me a hypocrite." Actually you just lied and practiced hypocrisy a lot. I just refuted your babble with facts. Anything else?
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@iii___iii Seems like you are mad. Is it because you're just a liar and hypocrite that pretends to be vegan?
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@iii___iii Liar and hypocrites often get mad when they are outed like you were. Maybe stop being a liar and a hypocrite?
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@hen4699 "Today, being vegan its easier than it had ever been before." More lies and propaganda. It's not possible to be vegan in our modern world.
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@hen4699 "Oh really?" Yes. "Does that mean vegans are magical unicorns or something??" A vegan is a person who does not eat or use animal products. Name one. "Yes, you can be healthy on a plant based diet and multiple studies have proven this." Okay? "Just because you don't want to accept that doesn't make it not true." You're arguing against something I never said. Are you okay? " Also, why TF are you creepin on all my comments that have nothing to do with you?? Kinda weird." I am just replying to a lot of comments and it happens that you did the same. Why are you replying to so many people with your propaganda and lies? That seems kinda weird.
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@estifanosadmasu2430 Plants feeling pain is irrelevant to my argument. I haven't done any research to confirm or deny such things. I do know about the high pitch sounds which could be pain or simply a reaction to stimulus. Personally I just point out liars and hypocrites pretending to be vegan and then watch them lie and backpedal when I show them facts they don't like. There is nothing wrong with reducing harm. There is no reason to lie about being vegan while trying to do it.
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@estifanosadmasu2430 Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with fat, gelatin, and bones. The simple act of commenting on youtube proves the person to not be vegan.
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@hen4699 "If you want to go by that logic, everyone is a hypocrite." You're making things up again. hypocrisy - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform You're the only one here doing that.
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@hen4699 Still trying to use your inane opinions against the facts? Thanks for the easy and continued wins.
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@hen4699 Domestic terrorism doesn't always involve death. Domestic terrorism or homegrown terrorism is a form of terrorism in which victims "within a country are targeted by a perpetrator with the same citizenship" as the victims.
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@hen4699 "..I'm so done with this.." And another lie. "I never said it did, Janie." It's funny that you deleted your own comment proving yourself wrong. "When will the slaughter end?" It isn't going to stop because of a FAD.
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@iii___iii All of those protestors are just liars and hypocrites virtue signaling for attention.
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@hen4699 "Why take any animal's life when you don't need to?" Ask yourself. You use products made with the same dead animals that everyone else uses. "and I do believe breading animals to kept as pets is pretty bad" People usually don't bread their pets. breading - The process of covering food with bread crumbs, cracker crumbs or also nuts, before it is cooked to improve the flavor and texture of the food after it has been prepared. Just another liar and hypocrite on the internet pretending to be vegan while virtue signaling for attention.
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@hen4699 Explaining away your ignorance? So nothing to refute me? Anything else liar?
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@NoInjusticeLastsForever Same old desperation from you. You claimed I eat animal products. Prove it. The burden of proof fallacy is a logical fallacy that occurs when someone tries to evade their burden of proof, by denying it, pretending to have fulfilled it, or shifting it to someone else.
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@hen4699 "If we needed meat to survive, vegetarians and vegans wouldn’t be cited as some of the healthiest populations on earth." More fan fiction. "It’s a fact that humans don’t need animal flesh to survive." And yet here you are using animal products intentionally and needlessly. "than your argument is invalid." Just like everything you ever type. Just more virtue signaling trash from a liar and a hypocrite.
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@hen4699 "..I'm so done with this.." And still lying. "Are you going to provide any evidence that it’s fanfiction or are you simply going to pretend like it is?" Sure. Look it up and research objectively. Start with the Mediterranean diet. "I’m not using animal products needlessly, hon." I see we have moved into the sexism... Babbling at strangers on the internet who have proved you're a liar and a hypocrite on multiple occasions is needless. "I’m using animal products" Needlessly. Anything else?
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Why do you use animal products while whining at your betters for using the same animal products? You seem hypocritical.
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@hen4699 "How so?" Private property is a human right. "I’d say that vegans are helping more than they’re hurting." To be vegan one would have to not eat or use animal products. None of those people are vegan. "Also, if we were to stop farming animals, the grain used to feed them could solve world hunger according to some studies." 85%+ of livestock feed is inedible to humans. 12% of the edible grains given to livestock are first processed in industry. The remainder couldn't feed the population of Rhode Island. "Not to mention the giant ass elephant in the room, meat CAUSES heart disease and cancer." Gluttony, not meat. You're confusing a proper balanced diet with gluttony. People on a plant based diet get heart disease and cancer like everyone else. "So who is really for human rights here?" The people who don't try to force others to eat a FAD diet.
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That's a strawman. It's illegal to trespass. If someone kicks in your door and sits down and drinks a glass of water would you be okay with that? I mean....they just drank a glass of water.
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@Spencer-lq3yd No. I would call the police because beating the dog in that context is illegal. You however would go to jail for burglary.
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@hen4699 All humans are omnivores. No humans are vegan.
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@hen4699 "..I'm so done with this.." Back again I see. And? All humans are omnivores. No humans are vegan.
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@hen4699 And you still use products made with that same brutal death intentionally and needlessly.
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@hen4699 And more comment spam after claiming you were done. You lied. You admitted to being a hypocrite. Since I am doing is outing liars and hypocrites, I win. Anything else person who claims they're done with me?
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Religious extremists are willing to go to jail for far less.
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@hen4699 Chickens were bred and raised to be eaten, as are cattle, and pigs. We also breed and slaughter them for animal products used in technology. You should know as you use some of that technology just to virtue signal on the internet. You're dogs and cats argument falls flat as they are a cultural delicacy and not bred for cuisine. Anything else?
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@hen4699 "..I'm so done with this.." Another lie. "1.)There are dog breeds in the past that were bred primarily for meat." In the past..... I said what is and you're babbling about what was. Cool story though. "2.) Chickens weren’t originally bred for eating." They were originally "kept" for cockfighting and originally "bred" for eating. "3.) A delicacy is still a food choice by definition-just rarer." So you agree with me... Good. "4.)" LOL Then do something about it? "5.)" Yawn... Just more babble. "6.)" And nothing relevant again. Just more logical fallacies. "Wahh, emotions, cry, blubbering. Edit: Because you did. Anything else?
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@andrewmccool5923 "Why do you believe they’re attempting to free the enslaved animals?" Because like you they are virtue signaling liars and hypocrites seeking attention. You use products made with the same dead animals.
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@NoInjusticeLastsForever Livestock aren't human. You're comparing human atrocity to livestock farming that we all benefit from. You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat. That seems hypocritical.
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@NoInjusticeLastsForever You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat. That seems hypocritical. Can't answer to this of course. Why do you use animal products while pretending to be against the consumption of animal products?
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@crow-y5k He isn't a teenager. The person I replied to is older. He used to have his own picture, but he took it down and changed his name when he really dived in to extremism.
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@hen4699 And you whine at me for spamming you when you're spamming the comment section. Sigh... You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people use. Practice what you preach. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with animal products.
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@hen4699 "God I feel sorry for your clothes. That bloods never coming out!" What blood? Do you make things up for fun or because facts make you feel bad? LOL... Thanks for win.
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@hen4699 Still can't tell me what blood is on my bloodless clothes? Anything else liar?
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@felixsatterly5031 Rape is uniquely human and illegal. Fact. You claim you don't use animal products even though computers and servers are made with animal products. Thanks for proving me right and you a liar.
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@hen4699 "Again, veganism means reducing animal suffering when you can." Veganism and vegan are different words. I say you're not vegan because technically you're not vegan. You don't practice veganism because you're here replying to a stranger that is possible and practicable to avoid. You're just another virtue signaling liar and hypocrite playing pretend. And more name calling as expected. Prove I am a carnist. Good luck with that.
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@hen4699 "Nope they are one in the same by definition." Wrong again. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. This is the definition of "vegan" created by the Vegan Society. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." This is the definition of "veganism" created by the Vegan Society. Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle. It is not the definition of a person. "Also name calling??" Yes. "You are the one who has been calling me a liar this entire time you massive hypocrite??" You are a liar. You use animal products and you claimed you didn't. You lied. You admitted to it. Prove I am a carnist.
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@hen4699 "Veganism is the act of causing the least amount of suffering possible." Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle of reducing harm as much as possible and practicable which you don't do. "you don't have the right to gatekeep the word veganism." I am using the definitions created by the Vegan Society. Are you saying they are gatekeeping? "I can tell you are carnist because no vegan would be trying this hard to justify their actions by saying" If a carnist is anyone that isn't vegan then everyone is a carnist. I am not vegan. You are not vegan. No on is vegan. Everyone currently living eats and/or uses animal products. "WeLl YoU CaNt ReDuCe AlL ThE sUfFeRiNg yOu CaUsE So YoU ArENt VeGAN!!11" I never said this or anything like it. This is the appeal to futility fallacy. There is nothing wrong with reducing suffering. There is nothing wrong with helping others to reduce suffering. I am just calling out liars and hypocrites that lie about being vegan and practicing veganism like yourself. "..I'm so done with this.." We will see. Anything else?
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@hen4699 IF you actually practiced what you preached you wouldn't be here to make such inane comments. Anything else liar?
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@hen4699 "Yeah because farmers are the real victims here, right? " Yes. He is doing what the law allows and people who are breaking the law are trying to hurt his livelihood. "Not the planet that is being destroyed so that meat eaters can continue with their destructive habits " It's not just meat eaters that use animal products. For example. You use products made with the same dead animals just so you can virtue signal on the internet. "Not the farm animals that are forced to live through years of torture for no good reason" Appeal to emotion and generalization. "Not the people who have sadly been kidnapped and forced to work in the fishing industry " More virtue signaling. Why aren't you fighting against that instead of whining about food? "Not the people who have sadly lost their lives to food related illnesses caused by meat" Gluttony* not meat. Plant based dieters get food related illnesses as well. "Not the slaughterhouse workers that have higher rates of PTSD " They choose to work there. "Nope it’s the farmers who are the victims" Exactly. Glad you agreed in the end.
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@andrewmccool5923 You use products made with the same dead animals that everyone else uses. Go practice what you preach. Win/win for everyone. You get to finally live the life you lie about living and we don't have to see your virtue signaling hypocrisy any more.
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@andrewmccool5923 You use products made with the same dead animals. It must be okay with you to kill animals as well.
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@andrewmccool5923 "You know he’s only raising them to profit off of their dead bodies, right?" And everyone uses those dead bodies. You use products made with the same dead animals that everyone else uses. You're just like everyone else.
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@Mike-hn7vc All of the time. I answered your inane question, now answer the simple question based on fact that I asked you.
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@Mike-hn7vc Of course you do. How do you think you replied? Smoke signals? Try again. Be honest.
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@Mike-hn7vc So you justify your needless use of animal products for entertainment which is perfectly avoidable because of where you chose to work and live? Cool story. Thanks for proving you don't practice what you preach and you make excuses. I accept your concession since you didn't answer the simple question honestly without excuses.
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@Mike-hn7vc Replying to me is needed for survival? Why are all of the tribes around the world and people like the Amish still alive? Oh right...it's not actually needed for survival. I accept your ongoing concession.
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@Mike-hn7vc And still, replying to me isn't needed for survival. Thanks for showing your moral inconsistency. I accept your ongoing concession.
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@Mike-hn7vc Three replies? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? "seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable" Which you don't do. Replying to me using YT servers is possible and practicable to avoid. Thanks for confirming my win. I accept your ongoing concession.
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@Mike-hn7vc More excuses eh? Animal products come from the same animals. I accept your permanent concession.
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@hen4699 And you think you accomplish that by being on youtube's routers and servers made with animal products? Just another virtue signaling liar.
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@hen4699 And more comment spam after claiming you were done. You lied. You admitted to being a hypocrite. Since I am doing is outing liars and hypocrites, I win. Anything else person who claims their done with me?
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@Srishti_Kaur You made a whole wall of text to demonstrate your hypocrisy. You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people use while lying about being vegan so you can feel better about yourself. Just another liar and hypocrite.
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@andrewmccool5923 You use products made with the same dead animals. Stop being such a virtue signaling hypocrite.
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@NoInjusticeLastsForever You literally use animal products cut from the same dead animals that everyone else uses. Why are you such a hypocrite?
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@hen4699 So you think being a hypocrite is a good argument? You literally use products made with animal death. You still consume whatever animal is society acceptable with little regard to their lives.
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@hen4699 And more comment spam after claiming you were done. You lied. You admitted to being a hypocrite. Since all I am doing is outing liars and hypocrites, I win. Anything else person who claims they're done with me?
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@NoInjusticeLastsForever Livestock can't be murdered. Murder is uniquely human. Go ahead and toss out your irrelevant secondary definition that in context means "to wantonly slay (humans)." You appeal to emotions by using buzzwords like "murder" instead of just using facts and reason. That's why you will forever turn away more people than everyone else.
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@NoInjusticeLastsForever You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat. Do you consider yourself a hypocrite? Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with dead animals.
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@NoInjusticeLastsForever "Because you support the very thing you say you're against." So do you. You use products made with the same dead animals. Practice what you preach.
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@hen4699 "I simply said that they were starting a discussion." And breaking the law, harassing an honest man, and virtue signaling.
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@hen4699 And more comment spam after claiming you were done. You lied. You admitted to being a hypocrite. Since I am doing is outing liars and hypocrites, I win. Anything else person who claims they're done with me?
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@hen4699 Still spamming eh?
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@hen4699 "You aren't going to stop the rise of veganism that way." It has grown from 0% to 0%. No one practice veganism because it is to inconvenient. Let's use you as an example. You literally and technically use products made with dead animals that are possible and practicable to avoid just to argue with strangers you can't refute. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with fat, gelatin, and bones. You simply replying to people proves you don't even practice what you preach. hypocrisy - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform
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You have no idea how to spell "literally."
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@iii___iii None of them are vegan. They are just a bunch of liars and hypocrites virtue signaling for attention.
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@iii___iii So you're making things up and playing pretend for fun?
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@iii___iii It means you're making things up like I said.
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@iii___iii They are not. They are just a bunch of virtue signaling attention seekers that use animal products for convenience and entertainment.
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@iii___iii So basically you can't refute me and try to smother me with nonsense instead. Again, thanks for the win.
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Just democrats doing democrat things.
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@PedroHenrique-id9co Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it?
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@PedroHenrique-id9co It's not a percentage metric. You either are or you're not. You're not. Look into the MSDS. Check processor, LCD screen, Batteries, and Plastic. You will find animal based stearic acid, animal based activated carbon, and animal based gelatin. "I don’t use." Lie. You evaded the question. Try again. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it?
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@Emre_Kermen He lost his morality argument when he found out electronics are made with animal products and he uses them intentionally and needlessly just to virtue signal his moral inconsistency.
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@PedroHenrique-id9co Thanks for agreeing that you lied since you can't refute me. You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment which is proven every time you comment here on this entertainment site. I accept your concession since you refuse to answer the simple question.
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@PedroHenrique-id9co "and you can’t nether" Nether? LOL You use animal products. Check. You claimed you didn't. Check. You lied. Check. You still haven't answered the first question. Check. I win. I accept your concession.
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@PedroHenrique-id9co "you can’t nether" And now. "you nether because" Contradicting yourself must be normal for you. My point is that you don't practice what you preach and you can't answer a simple question. That was all. Since you can't refute me or answer the simple question I automatically win. I accept your ongoing concession.
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@PedroHenrique-id9co I am not making you "seem" like one. You literally are one. You literally use animal products intentionally and needlessly that are possible and practicable to avoid while telling others lies and pretending to be against it. If you practiced what you preached then you wouldn't be here because you would be avoiding animal products needlessly for entertainment. YT is an entertainment platform as said by it's creators. entertain - give attention or consideration to (an idea, suggestion, or feeling). Try again or admit I am right. Either way I am using facts that you can't refute. I accept your ongoing concession.
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@PedroHenrique-id9co Good to see you can't refute me. I accept your ongoing concession since you can't answer a simple question honestly and would rather evade.
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@PedroHenrique-id9co I am happy to see that you can't refute me. I accept your ongoing concession.
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@iii___iii So? Are you saying you don't use the products of cruelty?
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They were doing it to each other long before white people moved in. Try a different argument.
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@hen4699 What about what about what about. Why don't you practice what you preach and stop using animal products intentionally and needlessly while being a massive liar and hypocrite.
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@hen4699 And more comment spam after claiming you were done. You lied. You admitted to being a hypocrite. Since I am doing is outing liars and hypocrites, I win. Anything else person who claims they're done with me?
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@hen4699 And you whine at me for spamming you when you're spamming the comment section. Sigh... You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people use. Practice what you preach. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with animal products.
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@hen4699 And more comment spam after claiming you were done. You lied. You admitted to being a hypocrite. Since I am doing is outing liars and hypocrites, I win. Anything else person who claims they're done with me?
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@hen4699 And you whine at me for spamming you when you're spamming the comment section. Sigh... You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people use. Practice what you preach. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with animal products.
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None of them are vegan.
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He is a victim. Hundreds of people are breaking the law on his private property while threatening him.
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@johnobrien9147 They are raised and bred for a purpose that is legal. Harassing and trespassing is illegal.
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@johnobrien9147 Cool story. The activists still broke the law.
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@johnobrien9147 Appeal to emotion. You're conflating people with livestock. They are disregarding the law by trespassing and vandalizing private property. That's a pretty big deal. You're saying that it's okay for a mob to rush in to someone's home and destroy what they like because of cultish beliefs.
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@johnobrien9147 "ppl are livestock in General." You're making things up. livestock (noun) - farm animals regarded as an asset. And learn to spell...have some self respect. "The only reason the government keeps us alive is to make money off of us." Cool story Mr. Conspiracy Theorist.
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@johnobrien9147 And another conspiracy theorist loses to facts and intellect. Thanks for the win and your concession.
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@johnobrien9147 And now you lied. You claimed you were done and here you are babbling more conspiracies and making assumptions about your superior.
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@johnobrien9147 Two replies? Unable to keep your thoughts together? Still lying I see. Still spelling like a child I see. Still making false accusations about me I see. Thanks again for the win and your concession.
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@johnobrien9147 And another lie while being sexist. Typical for you people. Like I said. Thanks for the easy win and your concession.
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@hen4699 "Again, just because an animal doesn't serve humanity does not give us an excuse to slaughter them needlessly." Yet you're fine using products of their death so you can virtue signal on the internet. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and contain animal products from the same dead animals. Just more virtue signaling hypocrisy. Practice what you preach.
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@hen4699 "..I'm so done with this.." Still lying. "I DO practice what I preach." You preach about being vegan while intentionally using animal products. You lied again. "How about you give me a reason to exploit animals instead of focusing on me personally?" I never said anything about that. In fact it is you that gives reasons exploit animals. Remember this? "I’m using animal products to provide counter arguments to common lies vegans hear everyday!" Your justification is a lie. You have yet to counter me and the people you're claiming are vegan aren't vegan at all. "You really are a monster at this point!" For what? Pointing out your lies and hypocrisy? Using facts instead of fiction? Seems you're just trying to label me as "other" because you can't refute the facts.
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@andrewmccool5923 You're making things up again. The majority of crops grown world wide are for humans. Those land animals take up less than 35% of total grown crops. Besides, you use products made with the same dead animals that everyone else uses. Stop being such a virtue signaling liar.
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Having a massive group of political religious extremists force themselves onto your private property stealing, vandalizing, and threatening is terrorism. If you don't think so can you give your address?
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@Ozzy3000 If they come on my property to steal sure. No need to be sexist.
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@Ozzy3000 How would I know they are unarmed? They are illegally climbing my fences, opening my gate, and trespassing on my private property. As a women it is perfectly understandable for me to fear for my life since a crowd of over 100 are illegally trespassing to harm my property. Lucky for me Iowa doesn't have those silly mag restrictions. How many would I have to drop before they decided it was probably a bad idea?
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