Comments by "Janie Swanson" (@janieswanson2549) on "JRE Clips" channel.

  1.  @cdabcdefg12345  Hahahha You literally don't know what veganism is. If you did, you would know there isn't a single person that actually practices veganism.
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  2. The problem with voting democrats is it empowers the other democrats. I won't vote for another democrat until our cities are fixed.
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  3.  @me5969  That means he is not vegan. He is simply on a vegan diet. There is a difference.
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  4.  @theyellowturnip7060  Vegan Society definition of vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person that does not eat or use animal products. Anyone claiming to be vegan proves every day they are too stupid to stop claiming to be vegan. They all use animal products every day. Just making a comment on youtube servers proves the person to be using animal products.
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  5. You're not vegan. You use animal products just like everyone else.
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  6.  @alexndg5260  If you actually believed all the junk you're spewing you would be vegan.
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  7. You didn't go vegan. You went on a plant based diet. There is a difference.
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  8.  @Ghazithasoulja  They aren't vegan in the first place. They are just a bunch of virtue signaling liars and hypocrites. They should be mad at themselves for wasting everyone's time.
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  9. We are biologically omnivores.
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  10.  @alexndg5260  I made a comment. You could have responded numerous ways. You chose to respond in the most inane way possible. I didn't explain a position. If you can't understand that then it's not worth the time nor the crayons to explain it to you. Go back to spewing trash.
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  11.    So ad hominem and straw man? Is that really the best you got? Ed isn't vegan. He uses animal products. He lies about being vegan to get money from subs and donations. Anything else or just more lies, straw men, and ad hominem attacks?
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  12. Humans are omnivores. It's literally a scientific fact. To say otherwise is science denial.
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  13. Steve Jobs believed his diet would help him cure his cancer. He was right. His cancer is gone.
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  14. There are no "legit vegan" or "legit carnivore" doctors.
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  15.  @alexndg5260  It means "If you actually believed all the junk you're spewing you would be vegan. "
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  16.  @blakeniles3622  "There is no way to kill an animal that doesn’t want or need to die. Humans can thrive on plants (and break Olympic world records). It’s all for pleasure." If you truly believed this you would be vegan.
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  17.  @itzyourmom2646  Thanks for confirming you can't refute the facts. I accept your concession.
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  18.  @cdabcdefg12345  "He says he is vegan," So he is lying. "If heis against animal abuse, then he should care if others abuse animals or not." He is not. He uses animal products from the same animals that die for food. The rest of your babble is irrelevant and off topic. He uses animal products intentionally and needlessly that are possible and practicable to avoid. He isn't vegan and he doesn't practice veganism.
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  19. Ed is just a grifter. No need to have a proven liar on the show.
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  20.    Another 2 replies? Are you so triggered that you can't keep your thoughts together? More ad hominem attacks. Predictable. It is easy to see he isn't vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. He uses animal products to record, edit, and upload his videos. Electronics are made with animal products. Tallow - makes hardened plastic less brittle / more refined it is used in the LCD displays. Bones - used to purify silicon for glass and processors. Gelatin - used in batteries. Anything else or are you just going to resort to name calling because you're mad that I am right and you're wrong?
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  21.    So 2 more comments with more ad hominem attacks without refutation? I expected as much. You people get so upset when someone proves you wrong. I guessed right. You did resort to more name calling because you're mad that I am right.
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  22.    Why would anyone bother substantiating anything when you're nothing but spewing hatred and spamming replies with vitriol?
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  23. The fact that we were eating animals long before cooked meat became a thing proves you're an idiot. IMO
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  24.  @shawns4354  "It certainly is when you expand the definition from human being to sentient being." Playing pretend isn't an argument. Murder is uniquely human and is illegal. Livestock are not human and slaughter is legal. You're conflating humans with animals to create an appeal to emotion logical fallacy. "There's always two sides to a story." Trying to extort the guys business is okay for you? Use objective facts instead of appeals to emotion. "A civil discussion didn't cross his mind?" Watch the full interview. He tried to have a civil discussion and he even introduced a plant based menu. It wasn't until they started trying to extort him that he decided to cut the deer up in front of them. Why do you people use animal products needlessly for entertainment while claiming it is murder? Wouldn't that make you guilty of the very thing you claim to be against? I know you won't answer this directly and honestly, but I want others to see your moral hypocrisy. I predict you won't answer the questions, you will go into denial, you will ask which animal products proving you don't do any research, and/or you will use a doctrine as a justification for using animal products needlessly for entertainment.
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  25.  @shawns4354  "you are taking the life of another sentient being that can and does suffer and has a will to live." Just like you and everyone else here which is why I asked the question. Why do you people use animal products needlessly for entertainment while claiming it is murder? Wouldn't that make you guilty of the very thing you claim to be against? I know you won't answer this directly and honestly, but I want others to see your moral hypocrisy. I predict you won't answer the questions, you will go into denial, you will ask which animal products proving you don't do any research, and/or you will use a doctrine as a justification for using animal products needlessly for entertainment. "Do some research." I have. I do objective research. "Start with Earthling Ed or Joey Carbstrong here on YouTube." You're appealing to authority and using liars and hypocrites as an example. "Watch Dominion." I have. At best it is full of disingenuous assertions and at worst it contains many lies that are easily proven false. You use animal products just like me and everyone else. You're just a liar and a hypocrite pushing a cultish fad that you don't even follow yourself. I accept your concession.
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  26.  @sarastewart5526  Yep. Thanks for the easy win.
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  27.  @ironicstocktrader3993  So you're a liar and a hypocrite. Routers and servers are unavoidable if you make comments on youtube. Thanks for the easy win.
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  28.  @ND-gb3dd  So you come to Joe's video to call him an idiot but no one is allowed to see you actually make an idiot of yourself? That's funny.
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  29.  @ND-gb3dd  Ahh, I get it now. You're mad that Joe talks about things you know little about. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly every time you comment. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and/or contain animal products from the same animals normal people eat. You're not vegan. You're just a typical virtue signaling liar and hypocrite.
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  30. They tried to extort him so he did that.
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  31. He also drank water....
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  32. Prove it. Show the paycheck.
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  33. "Vegans don't deny that humans are omnivores" Scroll through the comments and you will see people saying that humans aren't omnivores. Most recently: E DAWG 1 hour ago Humans=Herbivores "they usually have moral/ecological arguments" All hypocritical. Don't eat meat.....but it's okay to use asphalt, smart phones, routers, servers, refrigerators, microwaves, carpet, televisions, etc etc. The same people that whine about eating animals use parts indiscriminately from those same animals for convenience, fun, and hobbies. People claiming to be vegan are just virtue signaling attention seekers.
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  34. Your reply is probably the most perfect reply to this video. Most of the replies fall on two sides. 1. Those trying to trigger the virtue signaling hypocrites. 2. Those being virtue signaling hypocrites. Your reply doesn't do either while putting both in their place. Perfect....
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  35.  @alexndg5260  "it is not more ethical atvall, sorry to burst your bubble :/" Just an example. That isn't a fact. That is an opinion. You're not even vegan. Stop trying so hard.
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  36.  @alexndg5260  "when the foremost experts in the field of economics," Appeal to authority. Morality is subjective. So you're a leftist? That explains your complete disregard for logic. Are you even vegan?
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  37.  @blakeniles3622  No I never justified that. You built a straw man to argue against. "and When its time to upgrade my phone I’ll look for alternatives." Smart phones, computers, routers, servers, refrigerators, asphalt roads, microwaves, drywall, carpet, etc etc. The list is millions of products long and you use several of them. It is not just gelatin. It is bones and fat as well. "Nobody can prevent themselves from say accidentally running over an ant on the sidewalk..." I never even brought up ants. I am talking about cows and pigs. Actual mammals. Wow you are trying your best to justify using animal products while lying about being vegan. That is hilarious. "Do you get what I’m saying? It’s completely silly and a cop out." Were you looking in the mirror when you typed this about the ants? LOL You use tons of animal products. You're not vegan. Anything else? Try to bring something other than lies, straw men, and justifications for being a liar.
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  38. Blue whales don't have teeth at all. Where are these canines on ant eaters? Seems like our teeth evolved with us and how we killed and ate animals.....with our hands.
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  39. Yay, another dullard arguing we are herbivores.
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  40. Do you often make up fan fiction about vegans? Smug because dumb?
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  41. Still omnivores.
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  42.  @brianjacob8728  Evolutionarily, humans come from omnivores. Apes are omnivore. Humans were eating animals long before cooked meat was on the menu.
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  43.  @brianjacob8728  They are omnivores. Frugivores are just a sub class of omnivore. The amount is irrelevant. They are classified omnivores. Comparing chimp diets to gluttony diets is just a red herring.
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  44.  @brianjacob8728  "Bullshit. Frugivores eat fruits." "The variety of different animals that are classified as omnivores can be placed into further sub-categories depending on their feeding behaviors. Frugivores include maned wolves and orangutans;[13][14] insectivores include swallows and pink fairy armadillos;[15][16] granivores include large ground finches and mice." "And picking lice of other members of the chimp assemblage and consuming them in no way equates to raising and slaugtering cows, pigs and chickens for meat." I never said it did. They eat animals. They have been seen catching piglets and eating them as well.
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  45.  @amizan8653  You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat for entertainment pleasure. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment? I know you won't answer this directly and honestly, but I want others to see you're just a hypocrite. I predict you will ignore the question, go into denial, ask me which animal products (proving you don't do your own research, and/or you will justify your needless use of animal products with a doctrine.
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  46.  @youratowel97  Nope. I am not vegan nor was I ever vegan. To be vegan you can't eat or use animal products. You use animal products for convenience and fun and you won't stop. Cool that you apologized though. Thinking you can become vegan is pretty sorry.
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  47.    "because you are lying and misrepresenting what Ed stands for." Ed claims to be vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Ed chooses to use animal products intentionally. "Do you know what a strawman is?" "Straw man" is two words. straw man (noun) - an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument. So not only do you not know what it is, you don't know how to spell it. "You clearly didn't take any philosophy classes " A straw man fallacy is a debate tactic and is not related to philosophy outside of normal debating. Anything else or are you going to lie some more because you're mad that I am right and you're wrong?
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  48.    "you confuse direct insults with ad hominem." You're directly insulting me instead of the argument. That is ad hominem. "Also you still haven't provided any sources for your stupid claim." Why should I when you do nothing but insult and lie? "Your argument is basically anyone who uses any electronic device is not a vegan." Electronics are made with animal products. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Anyone who uses animal products isn't vegan. "Ahahahaha where the hell did you go to school Karen? " The typical and predictable ending to your replies. More insults. I get it. You can't fathom what the facts are because you're too tied up in your phony beliefs. Very cult like behavior. Any information you don't like is attacked instead of debated. It's okay. You're just like every other virtue signaling hypocrites out there.
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  49.  @shawns4354  "Like slavery. War. Racism." These are all human related. They don't apply to livestock. You're appealing to emotions again.
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  50.  @dperr338  The fact that we were eating animals long before cooked meat became a thing proves you're an idiot. IMO Still can't refute me? Humans were eating animals long before cooked meat. Can you show me the Blue Whale's sharp teeth and claws? Take your time.
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  51.  @dperr338  Still looking?
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  52.  @dperr338  Still on the hunt for a refutation? Thanks for the win.
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  53.  @shawns4354  So you can't answer the simple question? "so we agree" Nope. You're lying again. "murder" Murder is uniquely human and is illegal. Livestock are not human and slaughter is legal. You're conflating humans with animals to create an appeal to emotion logical fallacy. I don't care if animals are slaughtered. I am just pointing out your hypocrisy. You use animal products needlessly for entertainment while claiming it is murder (an illegal act). I simply ask you why and you can't answer. You would rather build strawmen about some fictional agreement that only happened in your head. Thanks for the win and your concession based on your inability to use facts or answer a simple question.
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  54.  @sarastewart5526  "win or loose" Win or loose? Did you mean lose? "I don't cear if your better" You don't cear if I own better? Did you mean "care" and "you're?" I keep replying because you keep giving me notifications. There is no obsession. You said bye bye and yet here you are back again just to say it again? Why do you lie so much? Thanks again for the easy win.
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  55. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? I know you won't answer honestly, I just want others to see your hypocrisy.
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  56.  @dodumichalcevski  Still can't answer a simple question I see. You know I am typing right? No talking here... I accept your concession since you can't answer a simple fact based question.
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  57. Neither has James Wilks. Chris is a clinician who shows results. James is just another wannabe who eats and uses animal products while pretending to be against it for monetary gain.
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  58.  @bobbyb4024  "What makes you think animals were made purely for us?" Because of the fact that even people like you who claim we shouldn't use animal products are fine using them as long as it suits your agenda. You continue to make claims while using animal products intentionally and needlessly. You're just a common hypocrite that continues to out yourself by simply commenting.
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  59. Frugivore is a subclass of omnivore. So we are omnivores. You agree. Cool story.
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  60.  @RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr  "it is it's own class not a subset." Blatant lie. The variety of different animals that are classified as omnivores can be placed into further sub-categories depending on their feeding behaviors. Frugivores include maned wolves and orangutans; insectivores include swallows and pink fairy armadillos; granivores include large ground finches and mice.
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  61. "Vegetarians and vegans have proven that one does not have to kill animals for their flesh in order to live a happy and healthy life." And they have all proven they are willing to use animal flesh for convenience and entertainment while being virtue signaling liars and hypocrites. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while acting like you're against it? I know you won't answer this question directly and truthfully, I just want anyone reading to see your moral hypocrisy. I predict you will ignore the question, go into denial, ask me which animal products proving you don't do your own research, and/or use a doctrine as justification for using animal products needlessly for entertainment.
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  62. "Am I missing something?" Yes. A large amount of green house gases would be created if we didn't feed animals with the byproducts of industry. What do you think would happen to all of the plant waste if we didn't use it to feed animals? Burn it? - green house gases Store it? - green house gases Land fill? - green house gases
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  63. "I believe in Karma, and ppl who live and profit from the suffering of living beings will get their punishment one day, in this life, or the next!" Then why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment? They come from factory farmed animals and yet you use them anyway. I guess you don't believe in Karma or something.
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  64. I would try to take them seriously if people who claimed to be against using animal products actually stopped using animal products needlessly for convenience and entertainment. Take you as an example. You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment. Debunked in your first three words.
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  65. Scroll through the comments a bit and you will see plenty of people falsely claiming humans are herbivores.
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  66. Murder is only something a human can do to another human. You don't really care about dead animals. If you did you would be vegan instead of being here virtue signaling.
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  67.  @ironicstocktrader3993  You're not vegan. You use animal products. You're just a liar playing pretend. I don't know what you being sweaty has to do with anything.
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  68.  @ironicstocktrader3993  "fyi i do not use animal products." You do use animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, servers, refrigerators, microwaves, asphalt roads, vehicles, carpet, drywall, windows, etc are all made with and/or contain animal products. The simple act of making a comment on youtube proves you use animal products. "quit assuming things about people you know nothing about 😙" Quit assuming things about yourself that you know nothing about. 😂🤣😂
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  69.  @ironicstocktrader3993  I guess you learned something new and decided to stop using animal products. You're welcome for the learning experience. If you ever decide to use animal products again you can check your notifications and come back to apologize.
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  70. It's even more sinister than that. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are all made with fat, gelatin, and bones from the same dead animals that normal people eat. You can clearly see in the video these people are all fine using products made with the same dead animals. The truth is they aren't vegan at all. Just a bunch of attention seeking virtue signaling liars and hypocrites.
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  71. You use animal products just like everyone else. You're not vegan.
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  72.  @GaryHighFruit  "Well I AM taking just about diet." So you don't know the difference between a vegan (adjective) diet and a vegan (noun) person... You're not vegan. You lied when you claimed you were.
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  73. Earthling Ed is a liar and a conman. He literally lies about being vegan go get money for his videos.
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  74. Going vegan isn't possible, if it were there would be at least one person you could use as an example.
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  75.  @yaccfonoti  "I've been vegan about 3 years." And there it is. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You used animal products just to comment on youtube. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and/or contain animal products. Thank you for outing yourself as a liar and a hypocrite. It makes my win even easier and sweeter.
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  76.  @yaccfonoti  I know that isn't what veganism means. Veganism is a different word. 🤣😂🤔 Vegan (noun) is a word that describes a person. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. This is the definition that the Vegan Society petitioned Oxford University for placement in their reference. https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780198609810.001.0001/acref-9780198609810-e-7463 Every living person on the planet currently eats and/or uses animal products. Veganism is a doctrine that describes a lifestyle. "The word veganism shall mean the doctrine that man should live without exploiting animals." - Leslie Cross founding member of the vegan society and author of "Veganism Defined." This is the doctrine that they later made to describe a life style of avoiding animal products when possible and practicable. There is no one that actually does this because convenience is always more important than possible and practicable. "Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of and cruelty to animals for food, clothing and any other purpose." Notice the definition of veganism does not include the word "person" or "vegan" in any form? "way of living" = lifestyle "exclude, as far as is possible and practicable" - This includes convenience, hobbies, and fun. "all forms" - Does "all forms" mean "all forms" in your country? Maybe it just means "everything except what is inconvenient for me to stop using for the fun stuff." "any other purpose" - smart phones, routers, computers, servers, refrigerators, microwaves, asphalt roads, carpet, drywall, televisions, etc etc.....and millions more items long. Maybe learn what veganism means before making comments. 🤣😂 You may apologize for lying now. Maybe you should do some research before you blatantly lie about things you seem obviously oblivious about. Thanks for the easy win. Superpower by 2020!!!! 🤣😂🤣
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  77. They ate insects as well.
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  78. Okay? We are still omnivores.
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  79.  @wdemon85  Because we are. It scientific fact that we are omnivores. We can and do eat both plants and animals. If you want to be a science denier and claim I am wrong that's fine. I will just lump you in with flat earthers and climate change deniers.
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  80.  @wdemon85  "lol I could care less." Couldn't* "Animal based foods have been shown to promote heart disease, diabetes, cancer and obesity." Processed and in excess. Just like excess sugar can cause many problems and sugar doesn't come from animals. " Stop making excuses for your sick meat addiction." Who said I eat meat? Do you often make things up when you're wrong?
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  81.  @wdemon85  "you must be offended if you’re resorting to correcting my grammar." You must feel backed in to a corner because you're a liar and you deflect by addressing a small part of my reply. "Anyways though, sugar in any amount is unhealthy." So all plants are unhealthy. By your logic anyway. You claim meat is bad because people don't eat proper diets so plants must be unhealthy because sugar is bad. "And you said it’s a scientific fact we’re omnivores... curious as to what science says that?" Biology. More specifically genome biology.
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  82.  @wdemon85  "lol please tell me how I lied" "Especially, since science says the opposite actually." The healthiest diet happens to be an omnivorous diet according to science. " Also, its animal based protein that causes disease is what science shows." Quote the scientific article. " I’m not basing it on logic, but on science." I used your logic against you in an example of what you were saying. "Also, please explain how the biology genome science proves meat is healthy." Why would I explain something I never said or implied. Genome Biology proves humans are omnivores.
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  83.  @michaelwatts5481  "how do smart phones or microwaves come from animals?" Already answered. Actually read the reply. Bones - Used to purify silicon for glass/processors. Tallow - additive that makes hardened plastic less brittle. Gelatin - used in some adhesives and rechargeable lithium ion batteries. Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Maybe you should go upstairs and ask your parents to help you.
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  84. If you want to see an idiot go to Nairi Davidian's channel and watch that idiot fail at singing.
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  85.  @ND-gb3dd  He bashes a lifestyle no one adheres to because of convenience. Why does it bother you? You're not vegan.
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  86.  @ND-gb3dd  Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle and is not the definition of a person. "Veganism shall mean the doctrine that man should live without exploiting animals." - Leslie Cross founding member of the Vegan Society and author of "Veganism Defined." Vegan and veganism are different words with different definitions. Vegan (noun) is a word that describes a person. Veganism is a doctrine that describes a lifestyle. You use products that are possible and practicable to avoid intentionally and needlessly. Glad I could clear up your ignorance and failure to know about yourself. Like I said: You're not vegan. You're just a typical virtue signaling liar and hypocrite.
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  87.  @ND-gb3dd  Of course I use technology. I never lied about being vegan. I never claimed to be something I am not. Nothing to refute? Just going to throw out some babble?
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  88.  @ND-gb3dd  Me either. Because using technology means their not vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or "USE" animal products. You use animal products. You're not vegan. You may apologize for lying now.
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  89.  @ND-gb3dd  Two comments? Triggered? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? "if you can point me toward some brands that don’t use animal products, I would happily buy all my technology from them." There aren't any. That's why I know you're literally not vegan. "I will probably buy secondhand in the future" It doesn't matter if you buy it or not. It's what you "use." Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or "USE" animal products. You use animal products every time you comment. You're not vegan. "it’s not about being perfect." And? Being vegan isn't a percentage metric. You either are vegan or you're not. Since you use animal products you're not vegan. "No one can live without harming ANY animals." So no sterile caves with a diet of cave moss in your future? "Vegans do harm much less animals than people who aren’t vegan." That's only true because vegans don't exist. Unicorns do harm much less than people who aren't vegan. "Why do you care anyway? " Just pointing out liars, hypocrites, and idiots. You happen to be all three so it works. You lied about being vegan. You were a hypocrite with your "veganism" agenda, and you're an idiot for not knowing simple facts about what you're claiming to be.
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  90.  @ND-gb3dd  You're just a person like everyone else. If you need a label to feel better about yourself I suggest a psychiatrist.
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  91. It's absolutely true. Over 80% of people who claim to be vegan can be found eating meat or animals products within a year. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? I know you won't answer this directly and honestly, but I want others to see your moral hypocrisy. I predict you won't answer the question, you will go into denial, you will ask which animal products proving you don't do any research, and/or you will use a doctrine as a justification for using animal products needlessly for entertainment.
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  92.  @ZEEKRAHERU1188  If you can't answer the question or refute me without using foul language that gets you censored that is a "you" problem. This is a proven fact. Over 80% of people who claim to be vegan can be found eating meat or animals products within a year. This is an absolute fact. You use animal products needlessly for entertainment. I simply asked you why and all you're able to manage is excuses and babble of censorship. I win. I accept your concession based on the fact you can't refute me and you can't even answer a simple question.
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  93.  @ZEEKRAHERU1188  I have no idea why you keep giving me notifications without addressing what I actually said. So here is another cut and paste. If you can't answer the question or refute me without using something that you claim is "truth" which likely isn't because you get censored that is a "you" problem. This is a proven fact. Over 80% of people who claim to be vegan can be found eating meat or animals products within a year. This is an absolute fact. You use animal products needlessly for entertainment. I simply asked you why and all you're able to manage is excuses and babble of censorship. I win. I accept your concession based on the fact you can't refute me and you can't even answer a simple question.
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  94. Growing our own food results in many deaths as well. Don't bring your inane arguments here.
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  95.  Erik Cnating  You're wrong. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. If he was vegan he wouldn't be able to get to work, use electronics, or live in a modern home. So like I said...there are no "legit vegan" doctors.
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  96.  Erik Cnating  I'll forgive your ignorance on the subject. You have been confused by your fellow virtue signaling hypocrites and liars. It seems a lot of people don't know the difference between vegan and veganism. Vegan (noun) is a word that describes a person. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. This is the definition that the Vegan Society petitioned Oxford University for placement in their reference. https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780198609810.001.0001/acref-9780198609810-e-7463 Every living person on the planet currently eats and/or uses animal products. Veganism is a doctrine that describes a lifestyle. "The word veganism shall mean the doctrine that man should live without exploiting animals." - Leslie Cross founding member of the vegan society and author of "Veganism Defined." This is the doctrine that they later made to describe a life style of avoiding animal products when possible and practicable. There is no one that actually does this because convenience is always more important than possible and practicable. "Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of and cruelty to animals for food, clothing and any other purpose." Notice the definition of veganism does not include the word "person" or "vegan" in any form? "way of living" = lifestyle "exclude, as far as is possible and practicable" - This includes convenience, hobbies, and fun. "all forms" - Does "all forms" mean "all forms" in your country? Maybe it just means "everything except what is inconvenient for me to stop using for the fun stuff." "any other purpose" - smart phones, routers, computers, servers, refrigerators, microwaves, asphalt roads, carpet, drywall, televisions, etc etc.....and millions more items long. "It's about making everyday choices that reduce our impact on animals lives." Except what you find to convenient to give up. So really it is just a way to be a hypocrite and virtue signal. For example: "I feel like getting on youtube needlessly to debate someone that is using facts against my feelings so I will just use routers and servers that were possible and practicable to avoid for fun." - you "So, yes, you can certainly be a legit vegan doctor." So, no, you can not be a "legit vegan" anything. "I look forward to your response." I look forward to your response.....please stick to the facts. You may at any time apologize for making things up and the initial insult. (since that is exactly what you did)
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  97. You're not vegan. You freely and openly use products made with the same dead animals that people eat. The rest of your argument is irrelevant and anecdotal.
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  98.  @mrcia2129  Because evolutionary is a word and evalutonary is not. Notice he edited his comment?
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  99. You don't know any vegans like that. No one does. Every single person you know that you think is vegan is just good at using rhetoric.
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  100. And we are still omnivores.
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  101. Humans were eating animals long before cooked meat. We all use animal products needlessly. I always find it odd that people whine about necessity while using animal products intentionally.
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  102. "We’re descendants from great apes, who are vegans" The great apes were omnivores and still are. Not sure where you got this fan fiction from. They eat larva and grubs in the wild.
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  103.  @blakeniles3622  Why would anyone believe you when you proudly lie? You're not vegan. Let me help you since you're either ignorant or blatantly lying. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You used products that contain animal products just to reply to me. Bones, tallow, and/or gelatin exist in modern electronics that you used just to reply to me. Now you may apologize for being a liar or thank me for clearing up your ignorance.
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  104.  @blakeniles3622  Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle. "The word veganism shall mean the doctrine that man should live without exploiting animals." Leslie Cross author of "Veganism defined" and founding member of the vegan society. Veganism is not the definition of vegan. Vegan (noun) is the definition of a person. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You're not vegan. You use animal products. You don't follow the veganism doctrine. You are using animal products needlessly just to be on youtube beyond what is possible and practicable. On a scale from 1 to 10, how many extra chromosomes do you have? So you project your inability to understand on people because why? Anything else? If not, thanks for the easy win.
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  105.  @blakeniles3622  Just pointing out a fact. When I point out you're lying about being vegan you lose your mind. Is the only way you can argue against me is by building straw men? Anything else or new straw man?
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  106.  @blakeniles3622  It always goes in circles with you people. You can't handle the facts and prefer an echo chamber where you can virtue signal to each other for likes. You're not vegan if you eat or use animal products. You use animal products. You're not vegan. Very simple straight line of logic. You don't even adhere to the veganism doctrine. Every time you reply you're using animal products needlessly that you don't need to survive or for work. Congrats on being ignorant, a liar, and a hypocrite. You hit the virtue signaling trifecta. Edit: OMG!!! You even have a tattoo that says "Vegan" on your abdomen. Wow....I called it. You mad lad. No wonder you're so mad that I called you on your lies. You went and wasted good money on a tattoo just to virtue signal to people in real life. HAHAHAHA....omg that is hilarious.
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  107.  @alexndg5260  Blatant lie. I am using facts to point out liars and hypocrites. (and the occasional soy boy with "vegan" tattooed on his abdomen)
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  108. Murder is illegal and uniquely human. It was nothing to do with livestock, wild animals, or pets. A lion eating your kids is not murder....unless another human made it happen.
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  109.  @amizan8653  All you're doing is using appeals to emotion and inane babble to refute nothing. You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat for entertainment pleasure. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment? I know you won't answer this directly and honestly, but I want others to see you're just a hypocrite. I predict you will ignore the question, go into denial, ask me which animal products (proving you don't do your own research, and/or you will justify your needless use of animal products with a doctrine.
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  110. "Raw meat brings a bunch of diseases and we can only eat it cooked." Blatant lie. Yookhwe (Korea) Steak Tartare (France) Parisa (South Texas) Ossenworst (The Netherlands) Mett (Germany) Koi Soi (Thailand) Bo Tai Chanh (Vietnam) Kitfo (Ethiopia) Gored Gored (Ethiopia/Eritrea) Kibbeh Nayyeh (Lebanon/Middle East) Crudos (Chile) Carne Apache (Mexico) Cig Kofte (Turkey/Armenia) Beef Carpaccio (Italy) Basashi, sashimi, sushi, ceviche, and gravlax (Japan) All of these dishes are raw meat.
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  111.  @pompei1968  Yes we are. According to the scientific definition of "omnivore" we are. We can digest both plant and animal matter. Now deny science and prove that we are herbivores despite the fact remaining that we can digest both plant and animal matter.
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  112.  @pompei1968  Can't refute me? Thanks for the agreement that I am right. I accept your concession.
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  113.  @ohmss069  "How do you know every vegan is pretending?" They aren't vegan if they use animal products. "I think you're swiping a group of people with a broad brush cuz you don't like them. :)" This is a straw man. " Yeah true, someone using animal products isn't vegan, but so what?" This makes your first sentence a contradiction. "Becoming vegan like becoming an adult is a process over time" Blatant lie. You're either vegan or you're not. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Notice is says nothing about "over time." "and if the path they're on is to go animal product free," It never is. They choose convenience over actually being vegan. "I support them and I've got no problem with it. " What you support or have a problem with is irrelevant. I am stating facts. They are not vegan. They are lying about being vegan. I have no problem with anyone reducing harm where they can and completely support that decision. I do not support virtue signaling and lying about being something they're provably not.
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  114.  @ohmss069  It's easy to find middle ground when you stop being a white knight for liars and hypocrites.
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  115.  @harpalgill5935  Thanks for admitting you were dishonest. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  116. No, they are just doing it for attention.
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  117.  @jackmichaelpeter  Three replies? Are you unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? Thanks for admitting you use animal products intentionally and needlessly. You're a hypocrite. Congrats. Thanks for the easy win and your concession.
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  118. Right wingers enjoy breathing as well. Show them how you can go without.
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  119. You obviously know nothing about history. Roman Gladiators predate the word vegan. Roman Gladiators used armor with leather. Leather is not vegan. Do you people just make up whatever you want and claim it was vegan?
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  120. And some people make things up about cures and illnesses because of unrelated studies laced with medications that accompanied diets.
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  121.  @TheVitalij24  2 weeks? People would feel great on a meth and cocaine diet for two weeks. Instead research what the best diets are for your size and work with those for a few months. There is no data from any study that a pure plant based diet is better than any other diet.
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  122.  @TheVitalij24  Try what? I am already happy and healthy. Why would I change my diet? Anyone who believes they are vegan is just pretending and babbling bullshit.
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  123.  @amizan8653  Still stalking me after 6 months and lying about me eh? Thanks for proving your denial and lies are more important than facts.
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  124. Antler restaurant is on a street full of meat venders. They specifically attacked him because he was a small business.
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  125. You know he changed his menu since the protests right? He was trying to appease them at first so they would stop trying to extort him and in the end he just went back to his original menu. He wasn't lying. The menu changed in the last couple of years.
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  126.  @jameswelch82  It's an hour and 46 minutes long. He talks about the menu and why he changed it. Watch the full video instead of this cut.
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  127. Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle. It has nothing to do with crops.
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  128.  @davidgough3512  "the thoughtful vegan" They don't exist. Everyone currently living in the modern world eats and/or uses animal products in some way. The less than 1% of people around the world claiming to be vegan are just virtue signaling for attention.
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  129. Check out the largest animals on the planet. They are carnivores and don't even have teeth.
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  130.  @malatwork3890  He eats animal products. There is an interview where he admits to eating the honey is brother's bees produce. He uses animal products. Animal based stearic acid (livestock tallow) and animal based activated carbon (livestock bones) are the industry standard in processor manufacturing. How did he make a video without using something with a processor? Smoke signals?
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  131. You're not vegan. You use animal products.
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  132.  @Ghazithasoulja  Two replies? Triggered? "How do you know for sure they use animal products?" Easy. Asphalt, smart phones, computers, routers, servers, vehicles, carpet, refrigerators, microwaves, drywall, etc.. are all made with and/or contain animal products. Everyone living in the modern world uses animal products. "And speak for yourself sweetheart u don't know me or know what i use" Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and/or contain animal products. You are using some of these just to make comments on the internet. Thanks for the win I guess. Next time you're proven wrong you should at least do some research in to what you're claiming before you lie and make things up.
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  133.  @Ghazithasoulja  "Still? Never was a trouble" Multiple replies to single comments prove that's not true. And more spelling like a child and sexism. Thanks for proving me right. You lose.
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  134.  @Ghazithasoulja  Still can't refute me? You could have just said so instead of making another inane comment.
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  135.  @Ghazithasoulja  "You still haven't really told me what's in it for me if i let u declare yourself a "winner" of a game i didn't even know we were playing and rules u made up?" You still haven't refuted my original comment. Learn how to spell "you." They aren't vegan in the first place. They are just a bunch of virtue signaling liars and hypocrites.
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  136.  @Ghazithasoulja  Another two replies....triggered and impatient. They aren't vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. They use animal products. It's impossible to live in the modern world without using animal products. They practice hypocrisy. They tell other people what they shouldn't do while doing the exact opposite. They use animal products. And of course more name calling. Thanks for the win.
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  137. "Being vegan is literally proven to help the environment," Never happened. "Not everyone can be vegan but there should be 100x as many vegans as there are today " 100 x 0 = 0
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  138. ​ @aaronstepien2363  I want equality for all. So many lawsuits and whining about men getting paid more (despite them having more and better sponsors) so it is time we stop segregating the sexes. True equality. No more worry about trans or who gets paid more. I mean in some states the bathrooms are even equal. We need to end segregation and give equal opportunities for all. If you qualify you get the job. If not you can go to a safe space.
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  139. Look at your own hypocrisy before you try to point out others. You're fine using products made with animal products.
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  140.  @vidyakrishna5190  "i can't remember er you ever coming into my house to inspect what product i use." I don't need to come to your house to know that you use products made with animal products. "Please stop with your whataboutism." This doesn't make sense. "Your opinion in this matter means nothing unless your a vegan." Learn the difference between "your" and "you're." So you're saying your opinion means nothing because you're not vegan? You use animal products needlessly. That's just a fact.
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  141.  @vidyakrishna5190  And now you're name calling because you can't refute me. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. Thanks for the easy win.
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  142.  @vidyakrishna5190  "you are a vegan?" No and neither are you. "do you use animal products?" Yes, just like you do.
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  143.  @vidyakrishna5190  "you don't know me but i know you now. " I don't need to know you to know you do in fact use animal products. "Have a great life and i hope for your well being, you take a path of veganiusm." veganiusm is not a word. "Trust me you'll get the best sleep, knowing that your action have not contributed to a brutal killing of a sentient being." You use animal products from the same animals I do. I guess you didn't know smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and/or contain animal products from pigs and cows. You could have just said in your first comment that you're ignorant and a hypocrite. That would have been much better and I wouldn't have replied.
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  144.  @vidyakrishna5190  Actually smart phones are made with: Fat - LCD screens/plastic Gelatin - Lithium batteries/adhesives Bones - Used to purify mechanical grade silicon for glass/processors. You're welcome for the information. Now you can apologize for being a hypocrite.
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  145.  @citydogband  Which one of the facts I gave are not true in your uneducated opinion?
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  146.  @joshuasanchez9257  Funny you say that while you're commenting on a greedy exploitative corporation's website.
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  147. Good question. Why do you use the products of the deaths of animals when you have the option not to? Answer that.
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  148. Can't murder livestock. Murder is uniquely human.
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  149. So much wrong with your comments. Can't murder livestock. Murder is uniquely human. Frugivore is just a subclass of Omnivore. Frugivore = omnivore with more fruit.... You do a lot of whining for someone that uses animal products from the same dead animals that everyone else uses.
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  150. You literally use animal products just like everyone else here. No need to make things up.
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  151. murder - the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. Cows, pigs, and chickens are now humans?
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  152.  @robotec0007  "so how does it differ from an animal?" You seriously don't know how a human differs from cows, pigs, and chickens? Are you okay? " If i kill your cat/dog its not murder?" Nope. And you will end up in jail if you indiscriminately kill animals. "Thats legal?" You don't own my animals so no you can't kill them legally. Do you have an extra chromosome? "Give me your address and i come right away, im looking for some dinner" This is a real life threat and I will be reporting you for it. Anything else?
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  153. People who push morality and feelings as fact often get burned out when actual facts they don't like are presented. It's just a waiting game.
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  154. It's labeled a Group 2A carcinogen. So are hot beverages.
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  155.  @hirl63  You're making things up. The majority of livestock feed is inedible to humans. Try again. The facts.
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  156.  @hirl63  Yep. The majority of soy and corn that goes to livestock are first used in human industry to make things like ethanol, soybean oil, etc... After industry they are inedible to humans. Good to see you can't refute me. I accept your concession.
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  157.  @hirl63  Already did. The majority of "crops" go to human industry first before they are made into livestock feed. Funny how you're just pulling "soy" numbers while ignoring the rest. And I am curious... Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? I accept your ongoing concession.
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  158.  @hirl63  "you said spy and corn now you are backtracking." You're making things up. I never said anything about "spy." Thanks for the win and your concession.
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  159.  @hirl63  You're the one who limited it to soy and corn. Read my first comment instead of trying to strawman me. The majority of livestock feed is inedible to humans. You can't refute this. The majority of crops used to feed livestock other than grass are first used by humans. You can't refute this. You didn't answer the simple question either. I guess I shouldn't expect much from someone who is disingenuous and makes things up. Thanks for the win and your concession since you decided to use logical fallacies and make things up.
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  160.  @hirl63  Welcome back...with nothing to refute me again. I accept your ongoing concession. Thanks for the easy win.
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  161.  @hirl63  Still can't even answer the simple question eh? I accept your ongoing concession and the win.
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  162. ​ @joshuasanchez9257  Funny you say that while you're commenting on a greedy exploitative corporation's website.
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  163.  @daviecarranza1474  He isn't even a real doctor. Take your pseudoscience elsewhere.
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  164.  @amizan8653  And that modern technology is made with animal products that you're using. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are all made with and/or contain animal products that you're actively using to prove your hypocrisy. You're just a liar.
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  165. It's hard to argue against something that no one really follows in the first place. Veganism is too hard, not convenient, and not very fun to actually practice. The people who claim to practice veganism derive more worth from the claim than actual practice.
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  166. She is a blatant liar. She needs to catch a beating.
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  167. You're sure eh? Everyone uses animal products...
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  168. Statistically people who claim to be vegan are on the left....
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  169.  @jiimmyyy  They are leftists. So they claim it all of the time. Leftists are incredibly contradictory and hypocritical.
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  170. Total nonsense. 1. It doesn't cost that much to hunt Elk. 2. "wich" is not a word. 3. It doesn't matter what you think of his hobby. 4. He can't join the Army. A total non-argument.
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  171. When someone claims they are vegan you can ask: "So you don't eat or use ANY animal products?" When they affirm they don't use any animal products drop this little knowledge bomb on them. Smart phones, computers, routers, servers, asphalt, motor vehicles, televisions, drywall, etc... are all made with and contain fat, gelatin, and bones. Or... next time someone claims to be vegan just look up their device and cross reference it with the MSDS site to show them how they are liars and hypocrites. They devolve into whining, justifications, denial, and name calling. It's hilarious.
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  172. Murder is uniquely human. Livestock can't be murdered. Just another appeal to emotion fallacy.
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  173.  @Sing4TheMoments  Two replies? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? There is no proof of your original claim in either of your spammed comments.
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  174.  @HonestTalksWithLucas  Another question and you can't even answer mine. I guess you're projecting your bot status since all you do is name call without answering the simple question. I accept your ongoing final concession.
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  175.  @spr4019  "it's a vegan website" So a biased website.... 😂🤣 Open that website > Type Control + F > Type 75 > Notice that it says nowhere that 75% of all crops go to animals. You're a liar. You didn't know smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and/or contain animal products? Wow. You're actually brainwashed. Thanks for the easy win hypocrite.
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  176.  @cdabcdefg12345  It took you 7 months to come up with that? Yeah you do use animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, servers, refrigerators, asphalt, microwaves, etc... are all made with and/or contain animal products. Some of those you used just to reply to me.
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  177. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly that are possible and practicable to avoid. It is very unlikely you have the self control necessary to become vegan.
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  178.  @youratowel97  So you think using facts to prove you're an idiot makes me hurt?
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  179.  @Lazyspaceout  Who is Keran? Can't even spell Karen right? Just more insults because you can't refute me. Thanks again for the easy win and your concession.
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  180. If all of the virtue signaling liars and hypocrites pretending to be vegan thought like that we wouldn't have any reason to argue with them.
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  181. Humans eat raw meat all of the time. All over the word there are dishes served raw. Yookhwe (Korea) Steak Tartare (France) Parisa (South Texas) Ossenworst (The Netherlands) Mett (Germany) Koi Soi (Thailand) Bo Tai Chanh (Vietnam) Kitfo (Ethiopia) Gored Gored (Ethiopia/Eritrea) Kibbeh Nayyeh (Lebanon/Middle East) Crudos (Chile) Carne Apache (Mexico) Cig Kofte (Turkey/Armenia) Beef Carpaccio (Italy) Basashi, sashimi, sushi, ceviche, and gravlax (Japan) Anything else or do you want to play pretend some more?
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  182. I wouldn't mind. No more flashes. I am not a fan of flashes anyway. Good to see you have no argument and are reduced to nonsense.
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  183.  @1god2674  "deer" is the plural form of "deer." I don't know why plant based people don't know how to spell. Could be diet related I guess. You literally use animal products just like everyone else here. Why do you do that while pretending to be against it? I know you won't answer truthfully and factually since it hurts your narrative. I will just go ahead and accept your admission that you enjoy using animal products needlessly for entertainment.
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  184. It's more extreme to be a bunch of hypocrites protesting a restaurant for attention.
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  185.    You're just as much a carnist as me. Carnism is a concept used in discussions of humanity's relation to other animals, defined as a prevailing ideology in which people support the use and consumption of animal products. You use animal products just like everyone else that comments on youtube. Are you confessing to being a lying hypocrite? Oxford dictionary and Encyclopedia Britannica. Vegan (noun) - a PERSON who DOES NOT eat or USE animal products. This is the official definition of vegan in the Oxford dictionary. This is official because the founders of the Vegan Society requested that this definition be the official definition of vegan. Electronics are made with or contain bones, fat, and/or gelatin aka animal products. Do you use a different definition of "vegan" than I do? Is that where all of your confusion is stemming from? Instead of all of the name calling why don't you try to prove me wrong like an adult instead of all of the delusional babbling.
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  186. A lot of people have admitted or have been caught using steroids including athletes claiming to be vegan. Anything else?
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  187. They aren't happy just enjoying their fad. They have to let others know how virtuous they are while being complete hypocrites.
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  188.  @shawns4354  "we all do as much as we can." Not really. Everyone only does as much as they feel like doing. Use yourself as an example. You don't feel like giving up entertainment, so here you are using animal products needlessly for entertainment. "I feel at this point your just a paid troll from the Meat and Dairy industries." you're* Learn to spell. So just more name calling and false accusations eh? "There is no point in debating with paid actors." I am not a paid actor. It's strange how you went from "feel" to making a direct accusation. Thanks for continuing to prove you can't refute me, answer a simple question, or stop being a hypocrite. I win. I accept your concession.
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  189. Making things up is not an argument. Name a single "vegan" that I can look up who performed equally or better than their previous scores. I will bet account deletion that you can't.
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  190.  @vegonstruct5786  "Thankfully supplements are cheap and plentiful so vegans aren’t required to get their b12 from a dead rotting hunk of exploited animal flesh." Yet you're happy to reply to people with a device partly made with "a dead rotting hunk of exploited animal flesh." "even if it isn’t, animal agriculture requires way more plants to be grown for livestock than for human consumption" It isn't. And animal agriculture requires less plants to be grown for livestock than for human consumption. To give you a few examples: Do you think a lot of animals smoke cigarettes? Do you think a lot of animals wear cotton? Do you think a lot of animals drive cars with ethanol fuel? Over 60% of all crops grown world wide are for human consumption. You keep lying to people. I can only imagine it is because you're one of those liars pretending to be vegan so you can virtue signal all over the web.
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  191. None of those people out there were vegan so the point of view of a bunch of liars and hypocrites is irrelevant.
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  192. preformed? LOL Can't murder livestock. Murder is uniquely human and illegal. Why do you use animal products?
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  193.  @dperr338  Thanks for proving you can't refute me.
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  194. It's okay. You don't really mind. You're okay with using bits of animal in your everyday life.
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  195.  @sarastewart5526  You don't mind using animal products. You intentionally use animal products in your everyday life. Just a couple of facts.
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  196.  @sarastewart5526  Loose? Did you mean lose? Do you deny using animal products every day?
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  197.  @sarastewart5526  Of course you couldn't answer the question. Just like I know for a fact that you're okay with using animal products. Every time you reply you're just reinforcing that fact. Are we done here or do you want to continue proving me right?
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  198.  @sarastewart5526  Two replies? Unable to keep your thoughts together? Why do you lie so much? Your brother is not vegan. Since you seem thoroughly uneducated on the subject and you admitted as much I will help you. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers contain animal products. Every time you make a comment you are using animal products. Some other products that contain animal products are windows, refrigerators, microwaves, asphalt roads, vehicles, carpet, televisions, drywall, electrical wires, etc... there are millions of products made with animal products. Tallow (refined cow/pig fat) - LCD screens/plastic Gelatin (boiled skin and bones) - lithium ion batteries/adhesives Bones (burned) - purification of mechanical grade silicon for glass/processors "If it' was a conscious creature it should not be killed for our consumption so obvious " So no need to virtue signal with comments like this while using products made from their death.
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  199.  @sarastewart5526  Your brother didn't stoped anything because stoped is not a word. He is not vegan. He uses animal products. You're a liar. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. He uses animal products. Like I said: Some other products that contain animal products are windows, refrigerators, microwaves, asphalt roads, vehicles, carpet, televisions, drywall, electrical wires, etc... there are millions of products made with animal products. Tallow (refined cow/pig fat) - LCD screens/plastic Gelatin (boiled skin and bones) - lithium ion batteries/adhesives Bones (burned) - purification of mechanical grade silicon for glass/processors How can anyone know if you're rite? Do you know what rite means? rite - a religious or other solemn ceremony or act. Don't give strangers your name on youtube. Is it against the rules to dox yourself.
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  200.  @sarastewart5526  "your very funny person" I don't own "very funny person." Learn the difference between "you're" and your. "you need some real freinds in your life who would tell you to take your head out your own ass guarantee it" "freinds" is not a word. You should go upstairs and ask your parents for help with your comments.
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  201.  @sarastewart5526  Do you have an extra chromosome?
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  202.  @sarastewart5526  Another two replies? Are you unable to keep your thoughts together? I expect as much from someone like you. Glad you admit to being wrong and a liar. Thanks for the easy win.
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  203. Deer is the plural for Deer...
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  204. "we aren't omnivores" is complete retardation.
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  205.  @investingwithbrian6196  Technically "frugivore" is a sub category of "omnivore" making us omnivores.
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  206. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly from factory farmed animals while claiming to be vegan. Do you lie and practice hypocrisy because you want people to think you're morally superior or do you just want the attention?
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  207. We are omnivores by definition. - an animal or person that eats food of both plant and animal origin.
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  208. They don't even know the definition of vegan and they actually claim to be vegan. They are all victims of extra chromosomes and leftist schools.
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  209.  @bobbyb4024  "Veganism/vegetarianism is growing more and more every year all over the world." "vegetarianism" has no comparison to veganism. Veganism growing from 0% to 0% isn't an accomplishment. No one practices veganism because it interferes with convenience and entertainment.
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  210.  @bobbyb4024  "Well in the US it went from 1% of consumers identifying as vegan to 6% in 3 years." People lying about being vegan make up 100% of people that identify as vegan. So like I said 0% to 0%. "That's just the US alone and worldwide it is increasing so I don't see your point." Vegans don't exist in the modern world by definition. That's the point.
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  211.  @Indrave_2274  "Even if vegans don't exist, whatever they'd be, they'd still be more ethical than you." Bold statement for knowing nothing about me. How do a bunch of liars and hypocrites have better ethics than me? Oh, do explain. "But keel hiding under your semantics and your denying of statistics lol." How do you expect me to "keel" hiding? So you have nothing to refute and just decided to babble?
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  212.  @Indrave_2274  It seems that you're only capable of ad hominem and assumption. I never said owning a phone means you don't practice veganism. I am simply stating that eating or using animal products means you're not vegan and using animal products when it is possible and practicable to avoid them is not practicing veganism. Just the facts.
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  213.  @Indrave_2274  "You did say owning a phone means someone doesn't practice veganism because they contain animal-derived materials - just in another comment." Quote it. When you try to find a quote maybe you will read it slower and see that I never said that. "So I guess lying is alright as long as it suits your ego." That's what you're doing. Stop projecting. "My assumptions are pretty fair considering your intellectual dishonesty - something vegans seldom have." If by "pretty fair" you mean "literally wrong" then sure. Vegans don't exist in the modern world. If you eat or use animal products you're literally and technically not vegan by definition. "What is your idea of a proper vegan?" Pretty simple. A person who does not eat or use animal products. Convenient for me because that is the definition of "vegan." "Someone living in a cardboard box that lives off particulates in the air? Cause this whole "possible and practicable" thing is not some kind of tangible value." Another assumption as expected. "possible and practicable" is part of the "veganism" doctrine and doesn't make someone vegan. "I remember you said "Vegans don't exist." Oh really?" Yep, really. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Name one person that doesn't eat or use animal products. Just one. "So I guess animal rights activists can't be called good people because they're not saving animals every waking moment of their lives?" Why do you continue to type fan fiction? I never said this. "I think you need to look up what "practicable" means" Okay. practicable (adjective) - able to be done or put into practice successfully. It is possible and practicable to stop using youtube's routers and servers (made with animal products) to reply to me. Yet you continue to do it proving you don't follow the veganism doctrine. "Meticulously scouring one's lifestyle for minute instances of unnecessary actions does not fall under that definition." I know this. I am just pointing out the blatant uses of animal products. If you eat or use animal products you're not vegan. If you eat or use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid then you don't practice veganism. It is possible to practice veganism while not being vegan. This is where many of you virtue signaling liars get confused. It is currently not possible to be vegan in the modern world. Pretty simple. No need to overcomplicate the definitions. More assumptions, lies, and fan fiction. Try again.
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  214.  @Indrave_2274  Why would I use google definitions when the Vegan Society's definitions are the official definitions? Still can't find the quote that you lied about? Give up yet? "As you can see, your statement that "it is possible to practice veganism while not being vegan" is incorrect." As you can see you lied again. "See, I can use definitions to make me look smart too." You cherry picked definitions. That doesn't make you look smart. It makes you look desperate. "Not necessarily. According to the "possible and practicable" aspect of veganism, if someone is starving on a desert island, they are still vegan if the kill an animal to survive." Making inane comments on youtube isn't survival. Try again. "I can only wonder why you go through so much trouble trying to be the semantics police." Says the person cherry picking definitions to fit your own personal bias instead of using the official definitions. "It's hard to imagine it's anything other than an illogical hatred toward vegans that stems from something else." I don't hate vegans. I don't hate unicorns or fire breathing dragons either. It must suck to have to make things up to push a narrative. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. This is the official definition of "vegan" created by the Vegan Society. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose;" This is the official definition of "veganism" created by the Vegan Society. Notice they are different words with different definitions? Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle and is not the definition of a person. Failure or success at practicing veganism doesn't make you vegan. To be vegan you simply must not eat or use animal products. To practice veganism you simply must not use animal products when possible and practicable to avoid them. No need to overcomplicate things. I win.
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  215.  @Indrave_2274  " I see no point continuing this conversation when you accuse me of cherry picking definitions " It's true. You literally cherry picked definitions instead of using the official definitions created by the Vegan Society. "(definitions that are both from Google lmao)" Google "flat earth." I guess that is real now according to your logic.... "and not addressing some of my points while just saying I'm wrong." I did address some of your points. I even quoted you. Still can't find the quote of me claiming that owning a phone means you don't practice veganism? Are you going to hire a team to help you search? 😂 "You are very strange." So you part with an ad hominem because you realize you lost the argument? Thanks again for the easy win I guess.
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  216.  @Indrave_2274  "Not ad hominem, just my honest opinion. I did find your quote, however:" Name calling instead of addressing the argument is an ad hominem attack... Aww....you found a quote and the context is about being "vegan" not practicing "veganism." I maintain the two are different words with different definitions. You can indeed practice veganism while owning a phone. I understand emergency use of a communications device does fall under the doctrine of "veganism." That said, it is made with animal products and does not fall under the definition of "vegan." So owning or using a phone means you're not "vegan." "Individual people aren't vegan because of the asphalt on the roads?" Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or "USE" animal products. This is the official definition of vegan created by the Vegan Society. Asphalt roads are made with animal products and using them means you're using animal products. "That makes no sense under the official definition of vegan by the vegan society, as choosing not to drive isn't necessarily practicable." What doesn't make sense is you're again conflating the words "vegan" and "veganism." The definition of "vegan" has nothing to do with "possible and practicable." "You know, as consistent as you probably appear to yourself, you omitted a part of the official vegan definition when listing it." You're lying again. Vegan and veganism are still different words. "Care to share since you're so good at being honest?" I guess I will cut and paste a previous reply. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. This is the official definition of "vegan" created by the Vegan Society. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose;" This is the official definition of "veganism" created by the Vegan Society. Notice they are different words with different definitions? Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle and is not the definition of a person. Failure or success at practicing veganism doesn't make you vegan. To be vegan you simply must not eat or use animal products. To practice veganism you simply must not use animal products when possible and practicable to avoid them. Try reading slower this time.
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  217.  @Indrave_2274  "Yeah you've definitely got some problems 😂." More ad hominem as expected. "Just understand that people, myself included, will continue to call ourselves vegan because truthfully, these semantics are unproductive." I understand that virtue signaling liars and hypocrites will continue to be virtue signaling liars and hypocrites. "This is because the basic, common-sense definition of a vegan who is someone that doesn't needlessly torture animals for their taste pleasure." And another unofficial definition because you refuse to accept the actual definitions. You're fine using products made with animal products from the same animals that everyone else uses. Using "taste" as an excuse to be a hypocrite is funny. "And that is where the possible and practicable issue comes into play:" Again, that is the veganism doctrine and not the definition of vegan. "You saying vegans don't exist because they don't fit the definition is like saying good people don't exist because they're not perfect exemplifications of what "good" is defined as." I am literally and technically correct. You're free to remain in denial of the facts as it won't change them. Still waiting for that quote. "You did say owning a phone means someone doesn't practice veganism because they contain animal-derived materials - just in another comment." Keep looking. Maybe one day you will find it. You could ask your parents for help. Anything else? Are you going to continue using fan fiction to justify your intentional and needless use of animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid? It baffles me that you people think replying to me or making inane comments is a necessity of life.
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  218.  @Indrave_2274  "I like how you think definitions translate into how the real world could work." Okay... "It's ironic that you're just objectively wrong about how people could conduct themselves with regards to veganism, as if your idea of someone following the ethical principle of veganism (possible and practicable) to a tee would not be the shittiest experience ever. " I see... So you justify your denial and hypocrisy because convenience and entertainment is more important than simply being honest. "Remember, well-being is one of the major variables when considering what is vegan and what is not." You continue to justify using animal products for convenience and entertainment. "So in conclusion, if you value well-being, then yes, unnecessary things like replying to you do culminate into something that can be called necessity." You would have never seen this comment if you weren't using animal products needlessly in the first place. So you were justifying your own hypocrisy before you ever found me to reply to. "We simply could not function on an individual, let alone societal level if everyone tried to employ your "definition" ideology." Sure we could. You virtue signaling liars and hypocrites think you have to lie and be hypocrites to help animals for some reason. It's entirely possible to help animals without lying about being vegan or lying about practicing veganism. It turns out "not lying" is harder than just being honest. "I encourage you to think about how your life would be if you tried to follow your own advice. " I already do. I don't lie and practice hypocrisy to virtue signal to strangers on the internet. " Meaning, anything that is technically not a necessity is off-limits;" I never lied about being vegan or pretended to practice veganism so these things don't apply to me. "But I suppose anything that's not a definition is just "babble" lmao." You're free to derail this to ethics and morals as long as we stop talking about liars and hypocrites like yourself. "Nothing you have said thus far holds any significance in reality." You're confusing the facts I used with your own personal fan fiction. Simply put. You're not vegan if you eat or use animal products. That doesn't mean that reducing your personal use of animal products is a bad thing. You're not practicing veganism if you use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid. That doesn't mean that reducing your personal use of animal products is a bad thing. Anything else? Just more inane babble and justifications for being a liar and a hypocrite?
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  219.  @Indrave_2274  "Lol it's sad you think people like me are virtue signaling just because we aren't as ornery as you about your definitions." That's not true at all. You're virtue signaling by claiming to be things you're not. "I think you may be narcissistic?" I don't meet the criteria. "It would certainly explain why you think definitions are significant but people's actions aren't" When peoples actions are in direct conflict with their claims it is significant. Telling others they should stop doing things while continuing to do the same things yourself is hypocrisy. "Us "lying" is just not really caring about the stupid things you care about." Like I said. You prefer to lie about being what you are and what you believe rather than just being honest. "We use our time actually doing productive things and not reading the Merriam-Webster." I am using the definition created by the Vegan Society...not Merriam-Webster. Your continuing deflection of that basic fact is the most telling of all. "Crazy to thing this whole debacle was just about you thinking everyone should have the same irrational concerns that you do." Crazy to thing huh? I don't think (or thing) everyone should or shouldn't do anything. I am just pointing out the lying and the hypocrisy. It's isn't my fault you people continue believing you must lie. Again, nothing new. Just a bunch of inane babble that doesn't refute anything I have stated or the facts.
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  220.  @Indrave_2274  Another load of babble. Your opinions don't refute the facts that I laid out. You should look up the difference between facts and opinions.
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  221. Can you name the study that proves this or did you make it up?
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  222.  @spiritualcleanse7115  The debunked study that didn't have a control group, had meat in the diet, used vitamin/antibiotic injections, and included cheese.... Any actual study?
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  223.  @spiritualcleanse7115  Nope. The 11 articles that came out years ago. Look up the China Study and Denise Minger. Good to see you have nothing to refute me.
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  224. Because you're using appeals to emotions. Two of those things can't be done to animals anyway. Torturing isn't the industry standard. You're just as non-"vegan" as the rest of us. No need to pretend you are different.
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  225.  @vishusharma1180  "Murder" is uniquely human and illegal. Livestock are not human. You're making things up and appealing to emotions. Thanks for the win and your concession.
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  226.  @vishusharma1180  Thanks for agreeing with me even though you don't know it. "Someone" is also a uniquely human word and only applies to humans. someone - an unknown or unspecified person; some person. Livestock animals aren't people. Thanks for the easy win and your ongoing concession.
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  227.  @vishusharma1180  "Murder" and "someone" are uniquely human. They don't apply to animals other than humans. Thanks for admitting you use animal products needlessly for entertainment because you didn't refute me. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  228.  @vishusharma1180  Two replies? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? - the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. Thanks for admitting you use animal products because you didn't refute me...again. You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment. I accept your concession because of your denial and inability to refute me
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  229.  @vishusharma1180  Who said I eat blood or flesh? I guess you're only left with false accusations since you can't refute me. You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment. YT is an entertainment platform. Animal based stearic acid (livestock tallow) and animal based activated carbon (livestock bones) are the industry standard in processor manufacturing. How are you commenting without using something with a processor? All you have is denial, false accusations, dishonesty, deflection, name calling, projection, and making things up. Thanks for the win and I accept your ongoing concession.
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  230.  @vishusharma1180  Another two replies eh? Guess I was right about you not being able to keep your thoughts together on your diet. I use animal products needlessly for entertainment just like you and everyone else here. YT servers are not your phone. Just debunked you again. You fund the use of animal products just like me and everyone else here. It seems you should be complaining at yourself instead of me. It doesn't matter if they "can be" manufactured without using animal products. The fact is that they ARE manufactured with animal products. "If if if if" is not an argument. Thanks again for automatically admitting you use animal products needlessly for entertainment since you can't refute me. Good to see you have nothing to refute me and are reduced to insults, triggered commenting, denial, and fan fiction. Thanks for the win and your ongoing concession.
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  231.  @vishusharma1180  You keep arguing in a circle. I state a fact, you deny it, then I restate the fact. Good to see you still can't refute me. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  232.  @vishusharma1180  I know you responded. You just didn't respond truthfully and factually. You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment. Fact. You're not what you claim because of that. Fact. " your intial statements were animals' suffering doesn't matter" You're being dishonest again. I didn't say that. You're making things up because you have no argument against what I actually said. Everything else you're going on about is irrelevant. Thanks for another easy win. I accept your ongoing concession due to your denial, name calling, and inability to refute me.
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  233.  @vishusharma1180  Thanks for admitting you're not "vegan" and are unable to refute me. You use animal products needlessly for entertainment that are "possible and practicable" to avoid which is contrary to the definition of "veganism." I accept your ongoing concession since you have nothing to refute me.
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  234.  @vishusharma1180  Just more denial and nonsense? Thanks for the win and your ongoing concession.
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  235.  @vishusharma1180  All of your arguments are just name calling, denial, dishonesty, and insults. You state no facts relevant to the conversation. You automatically concede when you resort to name calling and dishonesty. I don't know what more you want from me. I have proven my point with facts and you don't accept facts and rely on your feelings instead. That's why I continue to accept your concession because you have nothing to refute me. Thanks for another easy win and your ongoing concession.
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  236.  @ohdontchaknow  Sure it does. Stop making things up.
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  237.  @ohdontchaknow  "Why would you think I'm making things up?" How would I know why you decided to be dishonest? Liver has carbs. Sausage has carbs. Both meat and both contain carbs. Thanks for admitting you were dishonest. Anything else?
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  238. @qwerty Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? Go ahead and evade this simple question. We both know you will.
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  239.  @TwoPyramid  The most compelling argument is a plant based only diet is unhealthy. Another compelling argument is the same people who claim to be against using animal products use them just like normal omnivores. They derive more worth from pretending to be against it than actually practicing what they preach. Everyone here uses animal products. Some people just accept the fact while others stay in denial while using a doctrine to justify the needless use of animal products.
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  240.  @amizan8653  You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat for entertainment pleasure. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment? I know you won't answer this directly and honestly, but I want others to see you're just a hypocrite. I predict you will ignore the question, go into denial, ask me which animal products (proving you don't do your own research, and/or you will justify your needless use of animal products with a doctrine.
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  241. You consume animal products. Why would you say so many vile things about yourself?
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  242.  @markraymond7235  Can't answer the question? I accept your admission.
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  243.  @markraymond7235  What an incredibly evasive and predictable reply. Thanks for your admission.
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  244. None of those teammates are vegan. They use animal products. Just a bunch of liars pretending to be vegan.
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  245.  @redragna3648  So you're saying none of them use animal products despite animal products existing in smart phones, computers, servers, refrigerators, televisions, microwaves, etc..? That's a bold statement. I said they "use" animal products. Notice I said nothing about a dietary pattern.
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  246. @CasualDude Nah. Can't argue the opposite at all. None of the people now claiming to be vegan are vegan.
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  247. @Preston W "You're not vegan" Beat me to it. You're not vegan either. "I can't fathom why someone adhering to a philosophy about reducing harm would say "LOL, to each their own" when it comes to murdering animals." Can't murder livestock. Murder is uniquely human. No one adheres to the veganism doctrine. You're the perfect example of a hypocrite and liar that pretends to be vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You use animal products. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." You use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid. You're not vegan and you don't practice veganism. You're just a typical liar and hypocrite that pretends to be vegan for attention. You automatically lose any rebuttal by being the liar and hypocrite you are.
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  248. "maybe if joe did not take 300 suplements he would not have such a big problem going into the bathroom" "suplements" is not a word. He never said he had a problem going into the bathroom. Why are you making things up?
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  249.  @joaosilva-ji1ve  "He said on carnivore diet i have explosive experience in the bathroom." Okay? He never said he had a problem going IN TO THE BATHROOM. Suplements is still not a word.
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  250. That's odd. They are currently taking reservations. They are even looking to hire a full time line cook.
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  251. "I’m vegan because I won’t kill an animal unless it’s life or death" You're not vegan. "I hope that we evolve passed animals suffering as part of human culture." We won't anytime soon.
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  252.  @keeganreddy3126  "please think before you type..." Advice you should follow. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. I don't care about your dogs or cats. I am typing about you personally. "I understand that there are people like you who would not do the same." So you're making assumptions based on what? Try again...maybe without the assumptions.
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  253.  @keeganreddy3126  "Thanks for confirming my stance as a vegan as I do not use any animal products for myself." Aww...got you. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and/or contain animal products that you use every time you comment. You're literally using animal products to reply to a stranger. I made no assumptions. You seem to be uneducated on the subject. Try again.
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  254.  @keeganreddy3126  Okay? Saying good day doesn't mean you're immune from being proven a liar. You're a liar that pretends to be vegan.
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  255. bread? mutulate? inprison? Are you okay. I think your diet may be interfering with your cognitive functions.
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  256. They were actually asked about their stance on the subject and one of the girls screamed out pro-choice and then the organizer started telling people not to talk to the person recording.
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  257. Humans were eating animals long before cooked meat came along.
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  258. Since this video is filmed while he was in recovery from a plant based diet, your argument is moot.
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  259.  @smeshnoymatvey2054  Anecdotal evidence is not proper evidence. Anything else?
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  260.  @smeshnoymatvey2054  I enjoy entertainment and convenience. I don't want to give them up. We all use animal products for entertainment here.
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  261.  @amizan8653  You're not vegan. You're a proven and debunked liar that uses animal products intentionally and needlessly.
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  262. Extortion...
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  263. "People need to stop acting like veganism is just a trendy form of diet." A vegan diet is just a trendy form of diet. Veganism is just a trendy fad that people pretend to follow. "That's the fucking definition." In fantasy land? Sure. The actual definition of "veganism" can be found on the Vegan Society website and looks nothing like what you claimed. "I mean he literally said that protein is hard to come by in a vegan diet, which is utter bullsheek." The full compliment of complete proteins with the proper amino acids are hard to come by. Protein itself is easy... "Btw. soy has more protein per 100g than any sort of meat..." Incomplete proteins and a ton more carbs. "Also the thing with the supplements is that most vegans" None of the people you're babbling about are vegan. "Also the B 12 argument that gets brought up is also some CAP bc b12 is given to the animals as a supplement... that's why its in meat." So you think fish are caught, given supplements, and then released to be caught again? Cool story. Grass fed 100% organic cattle also have B12 in their systems. Do you think there is a magic B12 fairy that makes that happen? "Maybe it would be a better solution just to take those supplements ourselves right?" Ahh yes, animal tested lab supplements....mmmm... "You also get a shit ton of SHIT from people who see it as a threat or sum shit." Normal people don't like liars or virtue signaling hypocrites. You seem to be one of those who claims to be vegan. Why do you intentionally and needlessly use animal products? I know you won't answer this plainly and honestly, but I want anyone else reading your comment to see you evade, lie, and ignore.
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  264.  @pompei1968  "prove it ???" An omnivore is an animal that has the ability to eat and survive on both plant and animal matter. Scientific definition. An omnivore is an organism that regularly consumes a variety of material, including plants, animals, algae, and fungi. "start by the way we chew and digest our food" Teeth don't define an animal. Explain how blue whales are no longer carnivores because they don't have teeth by your logic. "or the way we drink water" Lol...really reaching aren't you. "and why we need water to swallow a tiny little pill" We don't "need" water for that. We prefer it. I have swallowed pills without water on numerous occasions, people do it all of the time. Now deny science some more. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment?
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  265.  @pompei1968  Still looking for something to prove me wrong? Good luck, it doesn't exist.
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  266.  @pompei1968  Good to see you're consistent. Even if it is just you consistently denying science. Look up the scientific definition of "omnivore." Thanks for another easy win and your concession.
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  267.  @pompei1968  You're making things up again. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  268. The source is "American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, July 2003." But sure, go into denial.
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  269.  @Q5000  It is an article. Name one "vegan" that I can look up who knows to supplement B12. Just one. If you can't then you admit their aren't many that know that.
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  270.  @Q5000  Everyone you named uses animal products. Try again....oh wait you dropped a nothing burger then...muh last reply. Thanks for the win and your automatic concession since you can't name a single one.
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  271.  @Q5000  Still looking for one person? All you have is insults and name calling? I accept your ongoing concession.
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  272.  @Q5000  Still can't name any eh? Thanks for the win. I accept your ongoing concession based on your name calling, denial, dishonesty, inability to refute me, and insults.
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  273.  @ironicstocktrader3993  "your a complete idiot lol." I don't possess a complete idiot. Are you offering? Learn the difference between you're and your. "you really have no idea how hard i work i use NOTHING from animals" You use electronics. I win.
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  274.  @Firm-Tofu-King  No one is.
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  275.  @Firm-Tofu-King  No you're not. You use animal products needlessly.
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  276.  @Firm-Tofu-King  How about three? You use fat, gelatin, and bones.
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  277.  @Firm-Tofu-King  Two replies? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? "um no I only eat while plant foods." while* What is while plant foods? Are you okay? Maybe go ask a parent for help. And? I said you use animal products. I didn't say you eat them. "and I research everything before I buy it to make sure" Who said anything about what you buy? I said you use animal products and you literally do. "I hate to say this but as a girl you're never gonna win this argument." I already won. You just don't know it yet.
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  278.  @Firm-Tofu-King  Another two replies? Is this the brain fog I heard about? "you still haven't named the animal product that I use" Actually I did. Scroll up and read. Maybe go ask a parent for help. I said: "You use fat, gelatin, and bones." "if you can name it I'll stop using it" I did. But you're still using them. Why do you lie?
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  279.  @Firm-Tofu-King  "what do I use fat gelatin and bones for?" Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with fat, gelatin, and bones. You use animal products every time you reply to me. You literally lied. I see you're still not answering my questions. I will paste them again. What is while plant foods? Why do you lie? Thanks for the win.
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  280.  @Firm-Tofu-King  Youtube's routers and servers aren't a necessity. Why did you lie again? "if you can name it I'll stop using it" And yet you used them again. So now you're a proven and admitted liar. Thanks for the complete and total win.
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  281. You went to "Collage" eh? Too bad they didn't teach you how to spell "College."
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  282.  @daviecarranza1474  "since I speak, read and write 3 languages." Obviously not since you can't even spell "college." Everyone uses animal products here. No point in whatever you were trying to convey with your unreadable wall of text.
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  283.  @daviecarranza1474  Good to see you have nothing to refute me. I accept your concession.
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  284.  @daviecarranza1474  You're making almost zero sense now. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  285.  @daviecarranza1474  Searching for my other comments is kind of desperate. "Collage Psychology professor Dr. Erickson" There is no such thing. Look up "collage." It doesn't mean what you think it means. I accept your ongoing concession since you are reduced to nonsense and picking arguments.
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  286. Humans can survive on a plant based and a meat based diet proving 100% that humans are omnivores.
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  287.  @amizan8653  Now you're name calling because you can't refute me. You use animal products. You're just a liar and a hypocrite.
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  288. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment?
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  289.  @dorjilama161  So you want me to imagine that I am in a Jew or a Muslim slaughterhouse? You use products cut from those same dead animals. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment?
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  290.  @dorjilama161  So can't answer the simple questions? I accept your concession and your admittance that you're a hypocrite.
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  291.  @justinpettit3432  Because it is true.
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  292.  @nissimlevy3762  So nothing to refute me?
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  293.  @GaryHighFruit  You literally use animal products cut from the same dead animals that normal people eat. You're not vegan. Cool story about $6 a day though.
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  294. People pretending to be vegan don't understand that they are looked down on and made fun of because each and every one of them are lying to themselves and others for virtue signaling points on the internet. The best proof is the internet is made with animal products yet you never have trouble finding the dip that starts out his lies with "as a vegan."
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  295. And yet they use animal products from those same screaming cows and pigs while pretending to be against it. I would take them seriously if they actually practiced what they preached.
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  296.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  The Material Safety Data Sheets aren't hidden.
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  297. Thanks for proving what he said is true. religion - a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it?
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  298. Our dentistry eh? Apes eat plants and animals. They are omnivores.
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  299.  @jamesmorss9940  Which has to do with dentistry and the absolute fact they are omnivores how?
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  300.  @jamesmorss9940  5 replies. Wow. Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? "chimps are frugivores, that is a fact." You're lying. Insects (ants, termites) account for approximately 4% of a wild chimpanzee’s diet. Still can't answer the question? I figured at least one of your inane replies would be relevant. Which has to do with dentistry and the absolute fact they are omnivores how? Try again. Try to keep the lies and assumptions to a minimum.
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  301.  @jamesmorss9940  3 more replies. Are you okay? What assumptions did I make about your diet? Feel free to quote me. Good luck. They are omnivores. They eat insects, meat, milk, and honey on top of fruit. Glad you finally agree that you're wrong. Thanks for the easy win.
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  302.  @jamesmorss9940  Insects only make up 4%. You did read the rest right? They drink milk from their mother for close to 5 years. They eat honey as often as they can find it. They actively hunt small mammals. That is far more than 5%. And look...you didn't quote me. I guess you admit that I am right and I didn't assume anything. Still avoiding this question? Which has to do with dentistry and the absolute fact they are omnivores how? Thanks for the win. https://janegoodall.ca/our-stories/10-things-chimpanzees-eat/
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  303.  @jamesmorss9940  3 more replies? I guess you're still having trouble keeping your thoughts together. I see you're unable to refute any of the facts I gave you so you have been reduced to babbling ad hominem attacks. Thanks for the easy win.
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  304.  @jamesmorss9940  Ah yes. More name calling because you can't refute me or the facts. I predict another inane comment.
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  305.  @jamesmorss9940  3 more triggered inane replies as predicted. Thanks for proving me right. "yes that's right moron, your right because of one outdated observation on a website. Well done." you're* Learn how to spell. It's funny that you're name calling while spelling like a child. Still can't refute me? Maybe while you're name calling you should grab a mirror. I think you deserve those names more than I.
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  306.  @jamesmorss9940  Look at you go. So mad that you're wrong that you posted 3 more times. It's okay. You must be so triggered because it happens often. Still can't refute me? Try again. Maybe 3 more replies or go back up to 5.
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  307.  @clarenceclarence9529  "Food with a victim is not food we should be mass producing." So you think we should harvest plants by hand? You do know that combines, tillers, rakes, plows, etc etc all kill animals and destroy their homes right? Why is a cow worth so much more than a mouse? Aren't they both equally animals?
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  308. The Baleen Whale is 100% a carnivore. Show me just one of its teeth.
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  309. How intense and spiritual it is, is subjective and opinion. Good to see you can't refute him.
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  310.  @CGKA2020  Good to see you can't refute me. Spirituality is subjective. You can't claim someone is experiencing it or not. I accept your concession since you were debunked and you can't refute me.
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  311. Yet not a single person on the planet exists without using animal products in some way regardless of poverty level.
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  312.  @theherionfather8274  "I did u realize that cancer comes from us eating meat" Blatant lie. "watch Dr sebi" Appeal to authority logical fallacy. "we are not supposed to eat animals" And yet you're fine with using their fat, gelatin, and bones for entertainment. "all life is precious your not supposed to eat living things eat sum fruit man and drink some tea I wish u the best in life" I think your diet is interfering with your ability to spell like an adult. You make things up and can't spell simple words.
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  313.  @yaccfonoti  Still crying or having trouble coming up with a rebuttal that can refute me? It must be embarrassing to be taken out with facts after all of that inane babble of yours. Thanks again for the easy win.
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  314.  @yaccfonoti  "lol I'm still waiting for you to learn what veganism is. Let me know when you do and we can have a conversation 😂" Yeah I already told you. I guess you have a hard time with reading comprehension., "10 paragraphs of nonsense...So desperate to "debunk" veganism." Oh look you edited. I guess you skipped all of the important parts. I guess I shouldn't expect much from you. "Out of all the good causes you could fight for, you choose to spend your time fighting FOR animal cruelty. " This is a straw man. Telling someone they are not vegan because they are factually not vegan isn't fighting for animal cruelty. Maybe argue against what I actually said instead of making things up and playing pretend. "Every time you buy meat," Another straw man. Who said I buy meat? Why do you keep making things up? "People like you are uninformed " I find this hilariously ironic given the fact you don't know the difference between vegan and veganism. "You have a severe lack of empathy, compassion, intelligence and morals. " And another straw man. Wow you just can't have an actual argument without making things up can you? Are you not smart enough to argue the facts instead of playing pretend? "Ps. I literally replied in 2 mins. You look like you spent two days writhing an essay on a subject that you have no understanding of 🤷‍♂️😂" Janie Swanson 2 days ago (edited) It "literally" took you over 2 days to reply. You replied to my second comment 2 days later. Thanks for the easy win. You can't argue without lying and straw men. You should learn how to read a bit too.
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  315.  @yaccfonoti  "not giving you anymore of my time." Ah yes. The child hood equivalent of taking your ball and going home because you were picked last. "I can't teach you how to be a decent human being" Straw man. You don't know what I have done or why I do anything. You're making things up again. "I can't make you comprehend animal cruelty and I can't do your research for you." Imagine that. Another straw man. "Please let me know when you've evolved." And a third straw man. Do you not know what a straw man is? straw man - an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument. Thanks for the easy win. Maybe next time you argue with someone you should avoid the lies and straw men. I get it. You have nothing to refute me so you have to play pretend to argue against me.
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  316.  @yaccfonoti  ""not giving you anymore of my time." Yet you send another reply....I guess you prove yourself a liar.
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  317.  @yaccfonoti  I win. 😂🤣
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  318.  @yaccfonoti  This is hilarious. You're such a sore loser the only way you think you can win is if you get the last post.....all yours unless you can finally refute me. Thanks again for the easy win.
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  319.  @yaccfonoti  Who are these angry meat eaters you're referring to? Did you just build a straw man because I wrecked your comment? It took you 3 weeks to come up with that crap from a biased website? Just get over it. I won.
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  320.  @vegonstruct5786  You're not vegan though. You used animal products just to reply. No need to be such a liar all of the time.
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  321. No one is vegan then.
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  322.  @THEAMISHCYBORG  You don't know any vegans. You're lying. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, servers, vehicles, asphalt roads, carpet, refrigerators, microwaves, televisions, drywall, etc are made with and contain animal products. If you eat or USE animal products you're not vegan.
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  323.  @THEAMISHCYBORG  So you recite the veganism doctrine because I factually told you that you don't know any vegans? Vegan and veganism are different words with different definitions. To be vegan you can't eat or use animal products, period. To practice veganism, you can't eat or use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid. It is possible and practicable for the liars pretending to be vegan to stop using many animal products but they won't because of convenience and entertainment. Just look at you. You're unwilling to stop using animal products just so you can reply to some random stranger on the internet. Consuming isn't just eating. It includes using. consume (verb) - buy (goods or services). consume (verb) - use up (a resource).
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  324.  @THEAMISHCYBORG  So you falsely label and name call people "trolls" when they use facts you don't like? Thanks for the win then.
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  325.  @THEAMISHCYBORG  That's what I thought.
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  326.  @THEAMISHCYBORG  And more name calling. "think less about what others do and strive to perfect your own life." You should take your own advice. Look at your first comment. Define "plantet." "Instead of trolling the tube and calling people liars." You mean using facts and outing people for lying?
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  327.  @THEAMISHCYBORG  You conflated a doctrine with a definition of a different word. Nowhere on the veganism definition website made by the Vegan Society does it state you magically become vegan if you fail or succeed in practicing the doctrine of veganism. They are different words with different definitions and are both made by the Vegan Society. You're continued push to say otherwise just proves you're more trying to convince yourself than you are trying to convince me.
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  328.  @THEAMISHCYBORG  You do the same. You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people use. Why is it okay for you, but others are "narcissistic af?" You should stop with the logical fallacies. Appealing to emotion is a desperation play.
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  329.  @THEAMISHCYBORG  "I live off-grid in nature on my own land in Spain." As usual you're leaving out the numerous routers and servers made with animal products you're using just to reply to me needlessly. " I dont have to explain myself to you" And I don't have to stop calling you out for your lies and hypocrisy. "It is very important and gives great meaning to me" Can't be that important or have much meaning when you're here using products made with the same dead animals that everyone else uses. You're just another fad hopping hypocrite and liar.
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  330.  @THEAMISHCYBORG  "oh did I hit a nerve or did the jellymonster get you?" Okay? Just more babble. "That a person cant be vegan because then they have to stop using cellphones and drywall?" If you eat or use animal products you're not vegan. You can't refute anything as usual. Thanks for the win I guess.
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  331.  @THEAMISHCYBORG  You're not vegan. You intentionally and needlessly use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid. You're just another virtue signaling liar and hypocrite that uses animal products when you want to and you can't refute that. As usual, I win.
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  332.  @THEAMISHCYBORG  Fat, gelatin, and bones at the least.
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  333. Frugivore is just a subclass of omnivore. They eat animals every chance they get. Thanks for agreeing we are omnivores.
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  334.  @MrDayday4641  So all of the termites, grubs, and small mammals that most frugivores eat don't count as animals? "The variety of different animals that are classified as omnivores can be placed into further sub-categories depending on their feeding behaviors. Frugivores include maned wolves and orangutans; insectivores include swallows and pink fairy" Cool story. Thanks for the win and your concession.
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  335.  @MrDayday4641  Good to see all you have is denial and fan fiction. Thanks for the win and your concession.
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  336.  @MrDayday4641  My first comment stands. Your denial is not an argument. Try again.
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  337.  @MrDayday4641  And some name calling added in to your inability to refute me. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  338.  @MrDayday4641  Still can't refute my first comment I see. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  339.  @MrDayday4641  I don't know what your goal is. If it is to avoid scientific fact and my first comment then you are succeeding. Type "you lost. Face it." if you admit I won. So nothing to refute me still? Just name calling? LOL I accept your ongoing concession.
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  340. Seems like you're doing a lot of reaching. We all use animal products here. No need to be so judgmental.
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  341. You're not vegan. No need to lie.
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  342.  @wdemon85  "I’m telling the truth and you’re the one spreading false information." You're lying again. "You keep saying biology genome with no evidence to back it up." I never said that once. You lied again. "If you want proof that meat causes disease pick up the China study." Off topic. The only way you can argue is by making things up to argue against it seems. "Or go watch what the health or the gamechangers." So you're saying that you source information from "the gamechangers" which isn't scientifically recognized and doesn't prove humans aren't omnivores. It is a documentary with cherry picked plant based half truths. "Clown." I see we have made it to the name calling portion of your argument.
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  343.  @wdemon85  "Lol keep thinking you’re an omnivore and keep eating yourself to disease if you want." What does the scientific fact of humans being omnivores have to do with what my diet might possibly be? Is assuming what my diet is the only argument you have? "I’m not the one who will suffer." Still making assumptions I see. "Sucks you can’t see past the brainwashing the meat industry feeds you. ✌️" Sucks you have to make up things to argue against because plain English is too hard for you.
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  344.  @wdemon85  So you never heard of Sushi? Kitfo? Koi Soi? Ossenworst? Tartare? Yukhoe? Funny how you replied to Assassin 9958 and ignored me. I guess you don't like being wrong. You're still making things up to make a point that doesn't exist because you're just wrong.
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  345.  @wdemon85  Read the article you linked. They debunk you in the first paragraph. They use words like "may." Anything else? Maybe try some actual science.
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  346.  @wdemon85  "99% vegan with the exception of eating termites." Being vegan isn't a percentage metric. You either are or you're not. 99% = not vegan. Eating termites = eating other animals. Chimpanzees are classified scientifically as omnivores. If you actually believed half the crap you were babbling about you would be vegan.
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  347.  @wdemon85  All you have is conjecture and assumptions. You continue to admit I am right and yet continue to babble on about diets. The healthiest known diet is currently an omnivore diet. When you compare the typical adult diets where people don't really care or monitor their diet you end up with slanted and false assumptions. Actual omnivorous diets are more healthy than plant based... If you actually believed half the crap you were babbling about you would be vegan. You're not vegan so it is obvious you don't practice what you preach.
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  348.  @wdemon85  "You just enjoy eating your gross animal based food and because it “taste good” you believe you need it." So you're still making things up I see. Quote me where I claimed to eat animal based food for any reason. If you can't quote me saying it then you admit to lying and making things up. " And yes, before you lie to me, you for sure eat animal based food like meat." When you have to blatantly lie and makes things up to push an agenda you don't even believe in, it proves you're unable to converse like an adult. You can't even address this factual comment. If you actually believed half the crap you were babbling about you would be vegan. You're not vegan so it is obvious you don't practice what you preach.
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  349.  @wdemon85  "ok genius, what do you eat and why?" And there it is. You're now begging for information because I have proven you to be a liar that makes things up. "According to logic, which you seem to like to apply based on your previous comments, why would you eat vegetarian or vegan if you believe being an omnivore is healthiest." Since when does someone have to do what they claim is healthiest? Claiming something is healthy doesn't automatically mean they do it. My prediction was right...as usual. You can't address this. If you actually believed half the crap you were babbling about you would be vegan. You're not vegan so it is obvious you don't practice what you preach.
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  350.  @wdemon85  "why are you so afraid to answer how you eat?" You're confusing fear with disinterest in starting a new conversation when you can't even argue the one you're already in. "Because it’s obvious you are." Prove it... LOL "At least I’m being transparent." By proving me right several times and avoiding this: If you actually believed half the crap you were babbling about you would be vegan. You're not vegan so it is obvious you don't practice what you preach.
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  351.  @wdemon85  "I can’t argue?" Intelligent arguments don't include lies, guesses, and strawmen. "You’ve proven nothing." Other than the fact that humans are omnivores. "I’ve done nothing but spit facts backed by science." Blatant lie. Scroll up a couple comments and see where you lie about my diet and make assumptions. Your assumptions of my diet are not scientifically backed. "I’m vegan 100%, so I do practice what I preach." You're not vegan. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. You're lying again. "Way to assume though." It's not an assumption, it's a fact. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You use animal products. Try again.
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  352.  @wdemon85  "lol you’re so dumb 😂 I’m a vegan." A vegan is a person who does not eat or "USE" animal products. You use animal products. You're not vegan. "I will have been a vegan for two years in March." So you have been lying for two years in March... "Not sure where you’re getting this idea that I eat animal products." I am not sure where you get the idea that I said you "EAT" animal products. I guess you're just showing your poor reading comprehension. "Looks who’s lying now, even though I never did lie." Still you. "Why would I so passionately defend veganism and then eat animal products." Still never said you eat animal products. You're making things up again. I guess since you can't argue against what I actually said you have to make things up. "You lack common sense." Says the person that can't read. "I feel like I’m debating a 7 year old 😂" Must be your projection. Try again liar.
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  353.  @wdemon85  "Your arguments are lame and make no sense." You mean fact based and you can't handle them? "Lmao never argue with an idiot, they’ll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Good bye idiot" Your denial was worth it. All of you idiots pretending to be vegan are in the same denial. You freely and openly use products made with the same animals that die for food while lying about being vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You use animal products. You do it every time you comment. Thanks for the easy win.
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  354.  @mushshrap6471  They are just a bunch of virtue signaling liars and hypocrites. No one with a bit of intelligence respects animal activists lying about being vegan.
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  355. That doesn't make sense. "Murder" is illegal and uniquely human. You're just appealing to emotions with nonsense fan fiction.
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  356. I am glad he pointed out their hypocrisy. They whine and complain about how he cuts up a deer but have no problems with the businesses across the street that are much larger. People claiming to be vegan are fine using animal products cut from dead animals while whining at normal people for doing the same thing.
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  357. Cool story. Bioavailability is key. The easiest to absorb B12 comes from meat digestion.
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  358. Why is it you people babbling about eating meat being immoral are always using things made with the same animals to complain about it? Do you know you're a hypocrite or do you just enjoy virtue signaling while being a hypocrite?
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  359.  @michaelwatts5481  Smart phones, servers, computers, routers, asphalt roads, drywall, carpet, refrigerators, microwaves, etc etc. Look up what happens with bones, tallow and gelatin that isn't used in food. More specifically those things used in electronics. Bones - Used to purify silicon for glass/processors. Tallow - additive that makes hardened plastic less brittle. Gelatin - used in some adhesives and rechargeable lithium ion batteries.
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  360.  @lenguyenngoc479  B12 deficiency is well documented on plant based diets. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it?
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  361.  @lenguyenngoc479  Who is "u" in your insult? I guess spelling is the first thing to go with a unbalanced diet. Define "enoughare" for us. I guess you have nothing to refute me because of the nonsense you typed...
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  362.  @lenguyenngoc479  So you're reduced to nonsense now? I accept your concession.
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  363.  @lenguyenngoc479  Who said I eat meat or animal fat? Reduced to making things up along with your nonsense? Thanks for the win and your ongoing concession.
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  364.  @lenguyenngoc479  I eat and use whatever I want. I don't know what my diet has to do with you using animal products needlessly while pretending to be against it.
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  365.  @lenguyenngoc479  You didn't have to say it. You're here. Animal based stearic acid (livestock tallow) and animal based activated carbon (livestock bones) are the industry standard in processor manufacturing. How did you reply without using something with a processor? Smoke signals? Magic? Good to see you can't refute me. I accept your concession.
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  366.  @lenguyenngoc479  I did specify and named the actual products. There are two types of stearic acid. Animal based is listed specifically. Probably because of its higher heat tolerances. Who said I eat meat? Why do you keep making things up? So all you have is making things up, insults, and name calling? Thanks for the win and I accept your concession.
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  367.  @lenguyenngoc479  Still nothing to refute me and still can't answer a simple fact based question? I accept your ongoing concession.
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  368.  @mushshrap6471  You're not vegan. You use animal products. I win.
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  369. Mic isn't credible at all. He literally uses animal products needlessly for entertainment and monetary gain. Ask him about his kid... "Dr. Greggor" Who is that? You know adding letters to a name changes the name right? And more making things up... Name one person who doesn't eat or use animal products that I can look up who is healthy. Just one. If you can't then you admit to being dishonest and making things up for your religion.
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  370. from and brag eh? LOL
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  371.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  It's much harder to hunt than it is to go to a grocery store...
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  372.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  I am not white and I call it a sport.
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  373.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  I am Asian. There was no debate. Just you whining. It's a sport. Just a fact. You don't have to like it. I accept your concession since you can't refute me.
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  374.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  Two replies? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? They aren't defenseless. Go try to wrestle with one and see what happens. LOL My playing? That doesn't make sense. Did you mean "you're"? It's funny that you're name calling like that while not spelling "your" properly. Old definition of "sport" - a source of amusement or entertainment. Another definition of "sport" - entertainment; fun. Another definition of "sport" - an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. "in a sport both are in participation." I compete against my older and younger brothers when we hunt. Thanks for the win and your ongoing concession.
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  375.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  "you're" No one taught you? "You're" is short for "you are." "Your" is possessive. Examples: Your smart phone. Your desk. Golfers don't hit the ball at each other either. Shooters in the Olympics don't shoot each other either. Bows in the Olympics don't shoot each other either. Thanks for cementing me as the one who is right. I accept your final concession.
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  376.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  Already covered above with a different definition. There is more than one definition of the word "sport." "spoert" is not a word. Try again. Good to see you still can't refute me. I take it that you're just mad because I proved you wrong. You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment so I don't understand your insults. I accept your ongoing concession. Thanks for the easy win.
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  377.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  Four replies....must be that brain fog I heard about. Animal based stearic acid (livestock tallow) and animal based activated carbon (livestock bones) are the industry standard in processor manufacturing. How are you replying without using something with a processor? Smoke signals? LOL Thanks for the win and your ongoing concession due to your dishonest, making things up, inability to refute me, and ad hominem attacks.
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  378.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  Another two replies and nothing to refute me. LOL Good to see you have nothing to refute me. I accept your ongoing concession since you are reduced to name calling and nonsense.
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  379.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  Good to see you have nothing to refute me. I accept your ongoing concession since you are reduced to name calling and nonsense.
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  380.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  Good to see you still have nothing to refute me. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  381.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  Reduced to name calling again... Thanks for the win and your ongoing concession.
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  382.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  And still nothing to refute me. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  383.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  You think you can hear text? That's funny. Your denial is not an argument. Still nothing to refute me I see. Thanks for the easy wins and your ongoing concession.
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  384.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  I wouldn't know because it still hasn't happened. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  385.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  I accepted your concession long before your inane questions started. You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment. Stop making things up. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  386. @Bill T It's funny that you claim humans which are scientifically classified as omnivores aren't. It seems like you're a science denier. Why do you whine at other people and call them carnists while you literally use animal products just like they do? Are you okay? You seem a bit delusional?
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  387. You don't seem to mind using products of their deaths. If you actually believed it was so horribly wrong you wouldn't be doing that.
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  388.  @amizan8653  "But I can't stand the fact that 25 million animals a day are killed for their flesh." They are also killed for fat, gelatin, and bones to make modern electronics, vehicles, and appliances that you use intentionally and needlessly. You're just a liar and a hypocrite.
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  389.  @amizan8653  Now you're name calling because you can't refute me. You use animal products. You're just a liar and a hypocrite.
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  390. To everyone that claims to be vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Smart phones, computers, asphalt roads, refrigerators, carpet, routers, servers, vehicles, drywall, microwaves, wire coating, glass, etc etc are made with or contain animal products. Offering a processed bag of powder and pretending that is natural is hilarious. Plant based is totally possible (as long as you buy expensive bags of powder and animal tested lab supplements)
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  391.  @vegonstruct5786  I don't think you understand what veganism is. Veganism is doctrine about a lifestyle. It is not the definition of a person. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Maybe if you people stopped virtue signaling and lying about things people would be more interested in listening to what you had to say. As it is you're just a lying hypocrite.
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  392.  @Freakyjohnsson1  You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people use. Why do you continue to do that while questioning other peoples ethics? Doesn't that make you hypocritical?
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  393.  @ND-gb3dd  "lol I don’t need a label." Then stop asking me to give you one. "People are always asking why I don’t eat animal products." And you lie to them in response. "What should I tell them?" Thought you didn't need a label. "And psychiatrists deal with medicine, not therapy." Look up the definition. You're need for a label and the delusion that you're vegan could require some kind of prescription. It's funny that you call Joe Rogan an idiot while being completely uninformed yourself. By your own logic you should have just told everyone you're an idiot.
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  394. You literally use animal products. Lying for 16 years must be exhausting. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending that you don't?
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  395. Livestock can't be murdered. Are you stupid by accident or is it a choice?
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  396. The funny thing is Hitler was more vegan than people now given that smart phones, computers, refrigerators, microwaves, routers, servers, vehicles, televisions, etc... are all now made with animal products that people today that claim to be vegan use without a care. How crazy is it that the a guy in the top 10 of genocidal maniacs was more vegan than the random virtue signaling hypocrites showing up at some restaurant (when there is a butcher shop across the street)?
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  397. It's not that it is forgotten. It is that some people don't believe in fanfiction written for weak people.
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  398.  @kevinstarrider1258  "Compassion is strength if you can educate yourself on how the slaughterhouse process works and continue to eat flesh you have ice water in your veins" So you're admitting to not having strength? You use products made with parts from the same dead animals. Why do you think you're somehow morally superior? "True hunting isn’t as brutal no torture and suffering or chemicals and it’s a clean kill but humans are not designed to eat flesh key word humans" So you know little about "true hunting"? Often the animals are mortally wounded but not incapacitated. So they run in fear and bleed out in the process. Is that how you want to go? If not then why? Sounds likes torture to me.
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  399.  @thesupremeveggieburger427  Allow me to correct you. There* are* didn't* that's* You shouldn't attack someone's spelling while spelling like a eight year old.
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  400.  @thesupremeveggieburger427  "but i dont even see where these errors are" I* don't* You edited your comment. Thanks for leaving lasting proof that you changed your comment to lie about it.
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  401.  @thesupremeveggieburger427  "And i only corrected “there” Thanks for admitting to being a liar. "so you dont have ANYTHING to contribute to the discussion" I showed you that correcting people while spelling like a five year old is funny. You think name calling contributes something or are you mad that I corrected you? Anything else?
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  402.  @thesupremeveggieburger427  "and i never lied." You edited and then claimed you didn't see the errors. You did see them because you edited them and then you admitted to it. "Your just being a" You're* Learn to spell. "Thanks for correcting me" Children need all of the help they can get. "care to talk about meat vs a vegetarian diet ?" Meat is in the vegetarian diet. So there is no vs. Glad I could educate the ignorant again. Anything else?
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  403.  @thesupremeveggieburger427  As usual the ignorant resort to personal attacks when proven liars. Thanks for the win.
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  404. Good luck finding an actual vegan doctor. Hint: there is no such thing.
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  405. You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment. Your sarcasm is hilarious.
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  406. Found in dirt > Eaten by animals > Processed and made bioavailable for humans to properly introduce into our systems.
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  407. "Murder" is illegal and uniquely human. Livestock are not human. You're appealing to emotions and making things up.
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  408. fan? You can "only eat meat," but I don't think it is something you can do permanently. Vegans don't really exist. Just people on a plant based diet.
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  409.  @preator_vallum6377  No problem.
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  410.  @ZEEKRAHERU1188  Still can't come up with an answer over a year later? Humans are scientifically classified as omnivores. You're free to deny science and evade questions, it just shows your IQ.
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  411. "I am vegan, and yes, meat is murder." A lie with more lies tacked on. You're not vegan. Livestock can't be murdered. Murder is uniquely human. You're just another virtue signaling liar and hypocrite. Why do you use animal products while lying about being vegan?
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  412.  @pompei1968  Just like you and everyone else living in the modern world. We all use animal products needlessly. I am just wondering why you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it... I know you won't answer honestly, you will evade that simple fact. I will just go ahead and accept your concession.
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  413.  @pompei1968  Animal based stearic acid and animal based activated carbon are the industry standard in processor manufacturing. So yes, you do. I accept your concession since you evaded the simple fact based statements as I predicted you would.
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  414.  @pompei1968  Evaded them again. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  415. The biggest carnivore on the planet doesn't have teeth or claws. I guess you make things up and start babbling nonsense when facts make you mad. " were frugavors." frugavors* is not a word. More proof you're making things up.
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  416.  @chizile-Bravo  Good to see you can't refute me. I accept your concession.
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  417.  @chizile-Bravo  Reduced to name calling now? Thanks for the easy win and your ongoing concession.
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  418. Watch the full episode.
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  419. You haven't been a vegan for any amount of days. You literally use animal products needlessly. Why you people like to virtue signal lie and push hypocrisy is beyond me.
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  420. To be vegan for 6.5 years it would mean you didn't eat or use animal products. We all know you did use animal products.
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  421.  @coraltitan6225  Scroll through these comments and you will find dozens of people arguing how humans are herbivores. It doesn't really matter either way. No one really practices the vegan philosophy anyway.
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  422.  @coraltitan6225  Did I specifically say YOU did? Nope. It doesn't really matter either way. No one really practices the vegan philosophy anyway.
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  423.  @coraltitan6225  Thanks for agreeing with my other comment.
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  424.  @coraltitan6225  Yet you keep replying. I guess being unable to refute me is frustrating you enough to make inane replies.
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  425.  @coraltitan6225  " at this point you’re just talking to yourself... whatever." Oh look you replied again. I didn't give an opinion. I stated a fact. Name one person that adheres to the veganism doctrine. (since you're done replying I can just assume you're out looking)
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  426. you're* whiny* You should learn how to spell simple words before you worry about insulting other people.
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  427.  Erik Cnating  You can't refute me so you go with a personal attack?
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  428.  Erik Cnating  You typed out a short story just to admit I am right. You included more lies and personal attacks so I am not going to bother teaching you further. If you have any further questions refer to my previous response. Thanks for the easy win.
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  429.  Erik Cnating  "ignorance is bliss!" Says the person that didn't know the difference between vegan and veganism, then made up a bunch of justifications and lies to evade the facts.
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  430.  Erik Cnating  "I explained that. A vegan is someone who follows veganism." Proceeds to continually lie and make things up. To be vegan you can't eat or use animal products. No one does that. To follow veganism you can't eat or use animal products when it is possible and practicable to avoid them. No one does that. You continually lie for a bunch of virtue signaling hypocritical liars. Thanks for the easy win.
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  431.  Erik Cnating  "Your definition of veganism or vegans (which is the same thing!)" They are not the same thing. They were never the same thing. I am not embarrassing myself. Stop lying. "It is about reducing as much as is possible and practicable. That is certainly doable. Therefore, it is possible to be a vegan. " Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle. It is possible and practicable to stop using animal products for convenience. No one ever does. Even if you were to do "as much as possible and practicable" it wouldn't make you vegan (noun) because they are two different words that mean two different things. "I'm starting to think I'm dealing with a crazy person here." You must be referring to yourself. I am laying out actual facts. You're beliefs in two words meaning the same thing is quite frankly laughable. Thanks for the easy win. If you have further comments or questions refer to my earlier comments.
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  432.  @g3rdus12  "Everybody knows that vegan stands for" Except people lying about being vegan apparently. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. This is the official definition created by the Vegan Society. The rest of your babble is irrelevant.
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  433.  @thinginground5179  You're not vegan.
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  434.  @thinginground5179  Of course I am still using a computer. I never lied about being vegan.
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  435.  @thinginground5179  lol... You babble and make assumptions and then ask if we are cool?
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  436.  @thinginground5179  There is nothing to judge me on. I am simply pointing out you aren't vegan.
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  437.  @thinginground5179  You can't convert to vegan. Pay attention. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Animal products exist in most everything in the modern world. The simple act of replying to me proves you use animal products.
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  438.  @thinginground5179  No, I use animal products...just like you and everyone else on youtube.
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  439.  @thinginground5179  You replied to me first. Ask yourself. I am just saying you're not vegan.
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  440.  @thinginground5179  Okay?
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  441.  @thinginground5179  And now you degenerate in to babble. Thanks for proving you're unhinged.
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  442.  @thinginground5179  Good to see that since you're unable to refute me that you're okay with derailing. It proves that I am right.
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  443. A bunch of lies. Not a single vegan living today has big dick.
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  444. We are only omnivores with the ability to eat a mostly carnivore or herbivore diet.
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  445. Murder is uniquely human and illegal. It is legal to slaughter livestock and they aren't human. No need to lie.
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  446. Murder is uniquely human. Can't murder livestock or wild animals, only humans.
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  447.  @fuhishva  That's where the animal tested lab supplements come in.
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  448. It's also an evolutionary advantage.
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  449.  @amizan8653  You have been a liar since 2019. You actively use animal products needlessly and intentionally. You're just a liar and a hypocrite that justifies your own use of animal products.
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  450.  @amizan8653  Now you're name calling because you can't refute me. You use animal products. You're just a liar and a hypocrite.
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  451.  @bigbonedones7162  We are all omnivores.
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  452. That friend literally uses animal products. I always found it's better to educate than to just avoid people.
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  453. "To the poeple that cauae suffering" poeple and cauae aren't words. Why are you so quick to kill people like yourself? You're okay with using the parts of dead animals for needless things. Why are you so against other people doing the same thing?
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  454.  @markraymond7235  "She, unfortunately, doesn't understand that vegans and vegetarians aren't perfect and that" So you don't know the definition of vegan? Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. It's not about perfection. It's about deriving more worth from the claim than the actual practice. Here you go. Prove your hypocrisy again. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while acting like you're against it?
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  455.  @markraymond7235  Not by definition. Still can't answer the question?
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  456.  @markraymond7235  Thanks for admitting to using animal products intentionally and needlessly. You are a moral hypocrite. hypocrisy - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform. You claim to be against animal exploitation while actively and intentionally using products produced with animal suffering.
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  457.  @markraymond7235  You claim you do what you can to avoid them while contradicting yourself by replying to me on an entertainment site made with animal products. You continue to prove me right. Try again.
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  458.  @markraymond7235  There are no vegans on the internet so I have no idea why your making things up. Still evading the question?
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  459. Because protesting in front of nondescript labs doesn't give them the virtue signaling attention they are craving.
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  460. They wouldn't care because they only care about perception. They derive more worth from the claim than the actual practice.
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  461. James literally eats and uses animal products. Normal people don't like it when others don't practice what they preach while pushing nonsense.
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  462. Pure delusion. You're free to make up fan fiction that has no basis in reality if you like.
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  463.  @JB.zero.zero.1  You can thank the fortified food and supplements. Stop pretending you eat nothing but plants. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? You're just another wannabe playing pretend because you derive more worth from the claim than the actual practice.
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  464. "I really like the vegan message" Lie about being vegan and be a massive hypocrite? " I was a vegan for 4 years," You were never vegan. I guess this is why you like the vegan message. You enjoy lying.
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  465.  @shadowilderness364  "Haha! here comes the vituous vegan who likes to feel they are above everyone else," vituous? That isn't a word. I never said I am vegan. I am not vegan. Do you always make things up and play pretend? "and pretend that they have never eaten or tasted animal products before." I eat animal products daily. Where are you getting your information? "New flash "you were never vegan". I was exactly like you before. A lot of vitue signaling. A lot of anger and hatred. A lot of ego." vitue? Are you okay? I never claimed to be vegan. I have no hatred. I just point out hypocrites and liars. Do you have an extra chromosome? How does your lie make me a liar in the same thing? Anything else or just more assumptions and lies?
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  466.  @shadowilderness364  "well, then you previous comment has no worth" Then you? That doesn't make much sense. You should apologize for lying.
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  467.  @shadowilderness364  Trolling because I told the truth? Do you think facts are trolling? Do you have an extra chromosome? You were never vegan. You lied.
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  468.  @shadowilderness364  "Oh, and the fact that you are not me, and don't know me; you can't really say that I was never vegan." Sure I can. Vegans don't exist by definition in the modern world. Smart phones, computers, routers, servers, refrigerators, microwaves, asphalt roads, electrical wires, carpet, drywall, television, vehicles, etc contain and/or are made with animal products. You were never vegan. "I know what I ate." Being on a vegan (adjective) diet and being vegan (noun) are two different things. Well now we know why you are confused. You were claiming to be something you're not because you're ignorant. "I know what I myself experienced on a daily basis." So do I. You experienced the use of animal products daily. Thanks for the easy win. You should stop lying to strangers.
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  469.  @shadowilderness364  "congratulations," Just another day. You liars pretending to be vegan are easy to call out. "blah blah blah" More inane garbage. Thanks again for the easy win. Try to stop being a liar.
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  470.  @shadowilderness364  🤣
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  471.  @shadowilderness364  Thanks again. Are you so upset you lost that you can't help but comment more emojis using your animals product laden electronics? Even after losing you're continuing to demonstrate your hypocrisy.
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  472.  @shadowilderness364  Still mad I proved you're a liar?
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  473.  @shadowilderness364  "nah, not mad, because you didn't prove anything" I did, so you lied again. That must also mean you're mad. "other than you being just another person wanting to feel superior in a comment section🤭" Compared to you? Not hard at all. Your first comment was a lie and you just spiraled from there. "Gurl, bye & keep on trippin😂" You will reply again. You liars are predictable.
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  474. James eats animal products just like Joe and Chris.
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  475. Quiet eh?
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  476.  @chrispick306  quite*
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  477.  @chrispick306  Happens to everyone.
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  478.  @bobbyb4024  So you think liars and hypocrites pretending to be vegan so they can virtue signal is a struggle? If you really think that you're* a moron.
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  479.  @bobbyb4024  People claiming to be vegan are liars. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. If you eat or use animal products you're not vegan. Simply making a comment on a webpage proves their not vegan. People pushing the veganism agenda are hypocrites. They intentionally and needlessly use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid by simply making comments on websites. Glad you understand now.
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  480. You literally use animal products from the same animals that you pretend to care about. Maybe stop playing pretend and start practicing what you preach.
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  481.  @aquietlife8873  Which part of my factual statement did you not understand?
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  482. Imagine claiming to be vegan when there is no such thing.
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  483.  @Freakyjohnsson1  Then avoid them instead of using them. Practice what you preach.
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  484.  @Freakyjohnsson1  No, you're not. You use animal products.
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  485.  @Freakyjohnsson1  Because you do. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and contain animal products. The simple act of replying to me proves you use animal products. Anything else?
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  486.  @Freakyjohnsson1  "Mate, a phone is not an animalls product." So you have reading comprehension problems? animalls? "Also being a vegan does not mean not hurting a single animal every," Getting confused? every? "but veganism is about reducing the harm by as much as possible and not choosing to kill animals by buying products that you KNOW contains animal products." Veganism is a doctrine about avoiding animal products that are possible and practicable* to avoid. It is possible and practicable to avoid making comments on youtube to lie about being vegan. You're conflating being vegan with a doctrine. "by buying products that you KNOW contains animal products." Smart phones, computers, routers and servers are made with and contain animal products. Fat is used in making plastic and LCD screens. Gelatin is used in making batteries. Bones are used to purify mechanical grade silicon for glass and processors. "What part from an animal comes from an animal?" ....the whole animal. Are you okay? Maybe you should ask a parent for help... " lol, a phone is basically minerals and plastic." And fat, gelatin, and bones. Anything else?
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  487. Ed has already been thoroughly debunked and proven to be a liar. He pretends to be vegan for subs, donations, and likes.
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  488. You're not vegan though. Stop claiming to be something you're provably not.
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  489.  @willdavidson8971  I didn't ask a question. I have no idea how you think that is a question. It is a fact. You're not vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person that does not eat or use animal products. You use animal products every time you comment. I guess you didn't know animal products exist in electronics.You're also a liar because you claimed you didn't use animal byproducts....
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  490.  @willdavidson8971  Refined tallow (cow/pig fat) is used in LCD screens, plastic (anti-slip agent), metal (anti corrosive agent). Gelatin (boiled skin, tendons, ligaments, and/or bones) is used as a coating in the lithium ion batteries. Bone char is used to the filtration process for making the glass screens. If you use a cell phone, refrigerator, asphalt roads, microwave, router, desktop, personal/private transportation, dry wall, glass windows, carpet, electricity, lap top, and/or internet, etc etc etc (millions of other products) you are using animal products. These products are not hidden. They are simply convenient so no one does the research. Do you honestly believe that all of these hypocrite liars will stop using their electronics to stop vitue signaling like you did on videos on the internet? LOL Every single person claiming to be a vegan activist is a hypocrite and liar. They all use animal products. Even their laminated signs have animal products in them. Anyone claiming to be vegan is a liar. Congrats on accepting facts instead of falling back on excuses and justifications. Its a long way from statements like this "Get over yourself; we tolerant and accepting vegans do exist, you don’t have to be one of them." - dip
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  491. Still looking for the proof?
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  492.  @pompei1968  So a lie is your best argument? Thanks for admitting you lied. I accept your concession.
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  493. You're not vegan. No need to start off with a lie.
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  494. @Ivan I prefer Barbeque or Taco.
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  495. You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment... I just debunked you before you went past 2 words.
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  496. Prove it without appealing to authority.
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  497. That dude tells everyone how "vegan" he is while literally using animal products. He can't be honest.
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  498. You're the same species. LOL Good to see you have no expectations for yourself.
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  499.  @jackmichaelpeter  So nothing to refute what I said? "I whine about necessity and I don’t eat animals" I didn't say you eat animals. I said you use animal products intentionally. You use animal products intentionally and needless from the same dead animals that normal people eat for entertainment.
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  500.  @jackmichaelpeter  Fat, gelatin, and bones.
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  501.  @jackmichaelpeter  "I don’t." You're lying. "You seem to think you have an insight into my dietary choices." Scroll up and read slower. I never mentioned that you eat animal products. I said you use them. Maybe have a parent come help you. "I avoid all animal foods so you’re wrong actually." ....I never said you ate them... "There’s nothing we need from animal foods that we can get from plants better" Cool story. Still never said you eat animal products. You literally USE (made it caps and bold for the learning impaired) animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and contain fat, gelatin, and bones. You prove you use animal products by simply replying to me. Thanks for the easy win and your concession.
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  502.  @jackmichaelpeter  Wall of text with you admitting to using animal products like I stated in the beginning. Thanks for agreeing with me. Your concession is accepted.
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  503.  @jackmichaelpeter  You're replying to me and making comments on youtube. That is needless. Bones are used in the production of silicon for processors and is the industry standard. Your concession is still accepted based on the fact you use animal products intentionally and needlessly.
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  504.  @jackmichaelpeter  Two replies? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? "I’m having a bit of trouble understanding what your are saying.?" you are* I am having the same trouble, but it's because you spell like a child. "I have laid out why the use of electronic equipment is not needless" No, you have justified using animal products intentionally and needlessly because you think you need a phone. Let me give you an example. You're claiming that since you need a smart phone that it's okay to just use any animal products they connect to. Routers and servers are also made with animal products. Your same logic justifies you ordering a meat lovers pizza with a phone app. B-b-but it's okay because you need a phone. Mmmmm pizza. And there you go.....thoroughly debunked. Still nothing to refute me? Maybe ask a parent for help or repeat yourself a few more times with the same inane babble you have been using all along.
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  505.  @jackmichaelpeter  What are you babbling about now? You have been debunked using your own logic. You need a phone for a profession you chose. You don't need to be replying to strangers that prove you're a hypocrite. You ignored the example. I will paste it again for you. Maybe have one of your students read it to you. Let me give you an example. You're claiming that since you need a smart phone that it's okay to just use any animal products they connect to. Routers and servers are also made with animal products. Your same logic justifies you ordering a meat lovers pizza with a phone app. B-b-but it's okay because you need a phone. Mmmmm pizza. And there you go.....thoroughly debunked. Still nothing to refute me? Maybe ask a parent for help or repeat yourself a few more times with the same inane babble you have been using all along.
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  506.  @jackmichaelpeter  Try again I guess. We are stuck here until you acknowledge that you use animal products outside of your phone. What are you babbling about now? You have been debunked using your own logic. You need a phone for a profession you chose. You don't need to be replying to strangers that prove you're a hypocrite. You ignored the example. I will paste it again for you. Maybe have one of your students read it to you. Let me give you an example. You're claiming that since you need a smart phone that it's okay to just use any animal products they connect to. Routers and servers are also made with animal products. Your same logic justifies you ordering a meat lovers pizza with a phone app. B-b-but it's okay because you need a phone. Mmmmm pizza. And there you go.....thoroughly debunked. Still nothing to refute me? Maybe ask a parent for help or repeat yourself a few more times with the same inane babble you have been using all along.
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  507.  @jackmichaelpeter  Try again I guess. We are stuck here until you acknowledge that you use animal products outside of your phone. What are you babbling about now? You have been debunked using your own logic. You need a phone for a profession you chose. You don't need to be replying to strangers that prove you're a hypocrite. You ignored the example. I will paste it again for you. Maybe have one of your students read it to you. Let me give you an example. You're claiming that since you need a smart phone that it's okay to just use any animal products they connect to. Routers and servers are also made with animal products. Your same logic justifies you ordering a meat lovers pizza with a phone app. B-b-but it's okay because you need a phone. Mmmmm pizza. And there you go.....thoroughly debunked. Still nothing to refute me? Maybe ask a parent for help or repeat yourself a few more times with the same inane babble you have been using all along.
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  508.  @jackmichaelpeter  "If you copy/ paste your response again I will not be wasting my time replying." Welcome back. Guess you lied again. Thanks for the easy win and your concession.
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  509.  @jackmichaelpeter  Try again I guess. We are stuck here until you acknowledge that you use animal products outside of your phone. What are you babbling about now? You have been debunked using your own logic. You need a phone for a profession you chose. You don't need to be replying to strangers that prove you're a hypocrite. You ignored the example. I will paste it again for you. Maybe have one of your students read it to you. Let me give you an example. You're claiming that since you need a smart phone that it's okay to just use any animal products they connect to. Routers and servers are also made with animal products. Your same logic justifies you ordering a meat lovers pizza with a phone app. B-b-but it's okay because you need a phone. Mmmmm pizza. And there you go.....thoroughly debunked. Still nothing to refute me? Maybe ask a parent for help or repeat yourself a few more times with the same inane babble you have been using all along.
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  510.  @jackmichaelpeter  You said you were done. You lied again. Try again I guess. We are stuck here until you acknowledge that you use animal products outside of your phone. What are you babbling about now? You have been debunked using your own logic. You need a phone for a profession you chose. You don't need to be replying to strangers that prove you're a hypocrite. You ignored the example. I will paste it again for you. Maybe have one of your students read it to you. Let me give you an example. You're claiming that since you need a smart phone that it's okay to just use any animal products they connect to. Routers and servers are also made with animal products. Your same logic justifies you ordering a meat lovers pizza with a phone app. B-b-but it's okay because you need a phone. Mmmmm pizza. And there you go.....thoroughly debunked. Still nothing to refute me? Maybe ask a parent for help or repeat yourself a few more times with the same inane babble you have been using all along.
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  511.  @jackmichaelpeter  You said you were done. You lied again. Try again I guess. We are stuck here until you acknowledge that you use animal products outside of your phone. What are you babbling about now? You have been debunked using your own logic. You need a phone for a profession you chose. You don't need to be replying to strangers that prove you're a hypocrite. You ignored the example. I will paste it again for you. Maybe have one of your students read it to you. Let me give you an example. You're claiming that since you need a smart phone that it's okay to just use any animal products they connect to. Routers and servers are also made with animal products. Your same logic justifies you ordering a meat lovers pizza with a phone app. B-b-but it's okay because you need a phone. Mmmmm pizza. And there you go.....thoroughly debunked. Still nothing to refute me? Maybe ask a parent for help or repeat yourself a few more times with the same inane babble you have been using all along.
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  512.  @jackmichaelpeter  You said you were done. You lied again. Try again I guess. We are stuck here until you acknowledge that you use animal products outside of your phone. What are you babbling about now? You have been debunked using your own logic. You need a phone for a profession you chose. You don't need to be replying to strangers that prove you're a hypocrite. You ignored the example. I will paste it again for you. Maybe have one of your students read it to you. Let me give you an example. You're claiming that since you need a smart phone that it's okay to just use any animal products they connect to. Routers and servers are also made with animal products. Your same logic justifies you ordering a meat lovers pizza with a phone app. B-b-but it's okay because you need a phone. Mmmmm pizza. And there you go.....thoroughly debunked. Still nothing to refute me? Maybe ask a parent for help or repeat yourself a few more times with the same inane babble you have been using all along.
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  513.  @jackmichaelpeter  I already debunked you in a different comment when you decided to start spamming the same inane babble. You stopped replying once I said this. Sure I have. You just choose to ignore it in favor of your narrative. Do you need a phone? Most likely. Do you need to be making comments on youtube? No. Youtube's servers are made with and contain animal products. You're justifying using animal products that are easily avoided and not a necessity at all because you need a phone for work. That's no different than using your phone to order a meat lovers pizza and some chicken wings.....because "phone." So basically you're proving your hypocrisy by claiming it's okay to use whatever animal products you want as long as your phone connects to it..... I already explained this to you. I think I used too many big words last time. I probably did this time as well. Anyway...thanks for confirming you're a hypocrite again. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. Making comments on an entertainment platform is needless no matter how you want to spin it for your narrative. You keep mentioning "potential gelatine" while ignoring the fat and bones. Very typical of you liars and disingenuous hypocrites. You pick one thing apart while ignoring the rest. Bones are the industry standard for purifying mechanical grade silicon. You can shove your "potential gelatine" up your monologuing ignorant ass. You are literally a hypocrite. All of your appeals to emotion can be used to lambast someone else that disagrees with you. You have already been proven disingenuous and a hypocrite. There is nothing left for me to prove. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. You use appeals to emotion by comparing human slavery to livestock farming. You use products made with the same dead animals everyone else uses. Even after I explained point number 4 to you no less than 3 times, you still attack strawmen. Its over. You lose. Go to google > Type "define needless" > Push search. It's not rocket science. This will be your canned reply. Your concession is accepted.
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  514. ​ @jackmichaelpeter  I already debunked you in a different comment when you decided to start spamming the same inane babble. You stopped replying once I said this. Sure I have. You just choose to ignore it in favor of your narrative. Do you need a phone? Most likely. Do you need to be making comments on youtube? No. Youtube's servers are made with and contain animal products. You're justifying using animal products that are easily avoided and not a necessity at all because you need a phone for work. That's no different than using your phone to order a meat lovers pizza and some chicken wings.....because "phone." So basically you're proving your hypocrisy by claiming it's okay to use whatever animal products you want as long as your phone connects to it..... I already explained this to you. I think I used too many big words last time. I probably did this time as well. Anyway...thanks for confirming you're a hypocrite again. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. Making comments on an entertainment platform is needless no matter how you want to spin it for your narrative. You keep mentioning "potential gelatine" while ignoring the fat and bones. Very typical of you liars and disingenuous hypocrites. You pick one thing apart while ignoring the rest. Bones are the industry standard for purifying mechanical grade silicon. You can shove your "potential gelatine" up your monologuing ignorant ass. You are literally a hypocrite. All of your appeals to emotion can be used to lambast someone else that disagrees with you. You have already been proven disingenuous and a hypocrite. There is nothing left for me to prove. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. You use appeals to emotion by comparing human slavery to livestock farming. You use products made with the same dead animals everyone else uses. Even after I explained point number 4 to you no less than 3 times, you still attack strawmen. Its over. You lose. Go to google > Type "define needless" > Push search. It's not rocket science. This will be your canned reply. Your concession is accepted.
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  515. Then explain our ability to process meat.
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  516. You use animal products just like everyone else.
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  517.  @stephencane6653  "I haven't eaten or wore any animal for 17 years." I didn't say you did either of those things. "I just told you that!" And I just told you that you "USE" animal products just like everyone else. The words "eat" and "wear" do not exist in any way in my original reply to you. Why do you needlessly use animal products? I know you either won't answer, you will deny, or you will justify your use of animal products with a doctrine.
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  518.  @stephencane6653  As predicted you didn't answer. "oh you are one of them kind of people oh dear. OK so what animal products do I use that does have an alternative." You use fat, gelatin and bones. I answered your question.... Now answer the question if you can. Why do you needlessly use animal products? I know you either won't answer, you will deny, or you will justify your use of animal products with a doctrine.
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  519.  @stephencane6653  I knew you wouldn't answer. "i only use thing that are essential to me living that don't have an alternative to animal." Except you are literally here on youtube servers replying to a stranger. Explain how replying to me is essential to living....LOL "You are very angry." Have proof of this accusation? Of course you don't. You're one of "them kind of people" who get anger about facts so you project your anger on others. "All I said was that I don't eat or wear animal but I don't care if other people do" And all I said is "You use animal products just like everyone else." "You seem like a right dick." And the name calling begins. Yay.
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  520.  @stephencane6653  Just more name calling. "I have no time for people like you." Your several comments prove differently. "My first comment still stands!" Stands as proof of your lies. You edited your comment because I called you out for your lies!!!! "I don't mind people choosing what they want to do.!" Neither do I. I also don't lie about what I am like you do.
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  521.  @stephencane6653  "what are you talking about? I haven't lied!" The proof is above. You claimed to be vegan while intentionally and needlessly using animal products. "Why are you so angry?" I'm not angry at all. I enjoy pointing out liars and hypocrites like yourself. "Why are you bothered that I don't eat or wear animal?" I'm not. You use animal products. That's a fact. "What is happening in your life to make you like this?" Nothing bad at all. Like I said, I enjoy pointing out liars and hypocrites like yourself. You literally use animal products every time you make a comment. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with the same dead animals that the food and clothes you don't use are made out of. Anything else you want to lie about?
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  522.  @stephencane6653  "I have no time for people like you." You're replying a lot for someone that claimed they had no time for me. "OK. So you are completely wrong." Nah. You're backpedaling. "How does that feel that you just embarrassed yourself online in front of everyone." I haven't. "I never said I was vegan." B-b-but you said: "I've been a veggie for 17years. No animal to eat or wear for 17years." Which is just another word for vegan. And you said: "Those crazy vegans are not speak for all vegans just their nut job group!!!!" So yes, you said you are vegan. "You come across angry, you are so quick to try and catch people out that you just embarrass yourself!" You come across as triggered because you were factually outed as a liar. You're so quick to backpedal you didn't read your first comment. "Wow you really are one of those people everyone says about." Yep, I out liars and hypocrites like yourself. "I haven't lied about anything but you are still a dick!" You just lied about not lying, And more name calling as expected.
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  523.  @stephencane6653  "I have no time for people like you." You're replying a lot for someone that claimed they had no time for me. Two replies? Having trouble keeping your thoughts together on your diet? Forget that you claimed you had no time for me? "i have not lied everyone else can see but you can't!" Proof is above. You lied. Thanks for your concession.
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  524.  @stephencane6653  "I have no time for people like you." You're replying a lot for someone that claimed they had no time for me. Two replies? Having trouble keeping your thoughts together on your diet? Forget that you claimed you had no time for me? "i have not lied everyone else can see but you can't!" Proof is above. You lied. Thanks for your concession.
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  525.  @stephencane6653  "i am replying because" Because you lied about not having time for me. Thanks for proving yourself a liar and a hypocrite. Your concession is accepted.
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  526.  @stephencane6653  You have lied. I am still factually correct. You're projecting your pettiness by name calling because you can't refute me. Thanks for the win and your concession.
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  527.  @stephencane6653  And more name calling because I can't be refuted. "i still haven't lied," You said you were done with me three different times and yet here you are still replying. Proven liar. Thanks again for the win and your concession.
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  528.  @stephencane6653  And just more name calling as expected. You lied. You practiced hypocrisy. You haven't refuted me. You still can't answer a simple question. You literally use animal products from the same dead animals that everyone else uses. You have said literally nothing to refute any of the facts. You just keep name calling and whining that I am mean. At this point I am just responding to notifications from a liar and a hypocrite that claimed they were done replying to me multiple times.
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  529.  @stephencane6653  your? Learn the difference between your and you're. Learn to spell. Remember, you have replied more than I have. "i still haven't lied" You claimed you were done replying to me 3 times. You literally use animal products that aren't essential to you every time you reply. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with animal products. Youtube is not essential to living. It is an entertainment company. And more name calling as expected. Reply again liar. At this point I am just responding to notifications from a liar and a hypocrite that claimed they were done replying to me multiple times.
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  530.  @stephencane6653  Remember, you have replied more than I have. "i still haven't lied" You claimed you were done replying to me 3 times. You literally use animal products that aren't essential to you every time you reply. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with animal products. Youtube is not essential to living. It is an entertainment company. And more name calling as expected. Reply again liar. At this point I am just responding to notifications from a liar and a hypocrite that claimed they were done replying to me multiple times.
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  531.  @vojtechnovak5350  Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment if you believe it is slavery? I know you won't answer this question directly and truthfully, I just want anyone reading to see your moral hypocrisy. I predict you will ignore the question, go into denial, ask me which animal products proving you don't do your own research, and/or use a doctrine as justification for using animal products needlessly for entertainment.
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  532. "'ll take supplements and be sure I cover everything." If you have to supplement then it isn't a healthy diet.
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  533. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while acting like you're against it?
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  534. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it?
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  535.  @Darchie  "I don't" Remember you typed that. Animal based stearic acid (livestock tallow) and animal based activated carbon (livestock bones) are the industry standard in processor manufacturing. How did you reply without using something with a processor? Smoke signals? Denial and dishonesty is not an answer. I accept your concession.
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  536.  @Darchie  "haha what on earth are you talking about?" I am typing, not talking. Stop making things up. "By your logic" Facts... "innocent" Logical fallacy. Appeal to emotions. You use animal products from the same animals that normal people eat. Fact. You can either accept this or stay in denial. Either way it stays a fact. I accept your ongoing concession since you can't refute me and are reduced to using logical fallacies and denial.
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  537.  @Darchie  And now the typical name calling begins. It's not my fault you were dishonest and in denial. Maybe go name call into a mirror. Look up ad hominem. It's another logical fallacy you're using. Thanks for the win and your ongoing concession.
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  538. Your brother isn't vegan. He is just playing pretend for a fad.
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  539.  @englishjake  Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. He uses animal products. "He throws up if we drive by road kill" Motor vehicles are made with and contain animal products. You're brother is not vegan. He is just just pretending.
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  540.  @tyeades975  "just cause your vegan" you're* Learn to spell. "it’s just people wanting to be healthier and eat like they’re supposed to" They wouldn't lie about if that were the case. To be vegan a person can't eat or use animal products. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products.
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  541.  @englishjake  " no he doesn't eat anything that is produced by animals." I never said he did. You're making things up to argue about. "I said he eats the beyond meat burgers the vegan ones, i hate the vegan police." Okay and? He uses animal products. Lol....calling me the vegan police. That's hilarious. Pay attention idiot. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You're brother USES animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, servers, motor vehicles, drywall, refrigerators, microwaves, carpet, etc...(and millions of other products) are all made with and contain animal products. You're not vegan if you eat or USE animal products. ffs.
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  542.  @englishjake  "OK not only are you the vegan police your also crazy." you're* Learn to spell. Learn the facts before you start lying and name calling.
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  543.  @englishjake  " what you said previously was so highly illogical anybody reading this will agree with my opinion that your loopy." you're* Learn to spell. I am using facts. You're not vegan if you eat or use animal products. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You're brother intentionally and needlessly uses products made with dead animals. I guess people like you don't really learn.
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  544.  @englishjake  So you're slow? Fat - plastic, LCD screens Gelatin - Batteries. Bones - used to purify mechanical grade silicon for glass/processors. Thanks for showing your lack of education. Anything else?
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  545.  @mushshrap6471  The number of vegans grew by 0. To be vegan you can't eat or use animal products. Everyone currently living on the planet eats and/or uses animal products. Let's use you as an example. You happily use animal products any time you feel like it needlessly.
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  546.  @mushshrap6471  Eating imaginary food isn't cannibalism.
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  547.  @JB.zero.zero.1  You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment that are "possible and practicable" to avoid. You commenting here isn't a matter of survival dippy. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? You're just another wannabe playing pretend because you derive more worth from the claim than the actual practice.
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  548. You never went vegan. You just went on a diet. No need to make things up.
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  549. The Mediterranean diet has been proven to be much healthier than any other diet. You're comment doesn't make sense.
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  550.  @localkauf  "S PR 2 days ago 100% herbivores, check this https://youtu.be/nS2_Q1NY8nU Even if you still believe we're omnivores that just means you can choose . Don't choose to be cruel, go vegan ✌️" 1 like so far. It appears someone agrees with them.
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  551.  @localkauf  "what's the point you're trying to make here?" Already answered. I will cut and paste the reply for you. "Scroll through the comments and you will see people saying that humans aren't omnivores." "Whats your angle?" Just pointing out you were wrong. "You really seem to hate vegans for some reason" I don't hate vegans. I don't hate dragons or unicorns either. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Everyone on the planet eats and/or uses animal products.
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  552.  @localkauf  I got a reply on a different comment so I came back. Nice deflection.
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  553.  @localkauf  "I really wasnt deflecting" You didn't address the reply...deflecting. "I'm honestly just interested as to why you care so much." Because I can. "btw in response to your video link" It is not my link. S PR posted that. No need to make things up. "a random video doesn't represent the majority of vegans" No video represents vegans. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Everyone currently living on the planet eats and/or uses animal products.
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  554.  @localkauf  "if no video represents vegans, what was the point of posting the video?" Ask the user S PR. They are the one that posted it. I just cut and pasted their post to prove people are calling humans herbivores and getting likes. "deflecting" implies I was consciously trying to deflect, I wasn't" You intentionally replied to me without addressing the comment.
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  555.  @localkauf  "my original point was that the majority of vegans don't seriously think that humans aren't natural omnivores. " If you eat or use animal products you're not vegan. Stop telling me what a majority of people who don't exist think. "When I said that "no one would agree with them", I was being a bit hyperbolic, obviously there's a small minority and group of any belief in this world" At least you somewhat admit to lying. "someone posting a comment or video that gets a couple likes isn't really a refutal of my point." refutal? Sure it is. People claiming to be vegan claim humans are herbivores quite often. "I don't care." That explains why you keep replying.... 🤦‍♀️
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  556.  @localkauf  "ah yes, because hyperbole is the equivalent to lying...?!" It is a form of lying. "either respond with evidence to the contrary or leave it" I did and you dismissed it because it didn't fit your narrative. "I find your obsessivness quite interesting" obsessivness? Says the person that replies as often as I do. 🤣😂 "I just specifically don't care about whether you think I'm deflecting or not" Okay. You did. If you don't care about it ignore it.
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  557. Murder is uniquely human. It does not apply to livestock or wild animals.
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  558. Murder is uniquely human by definition. Livestock can't be murdered. There is a difference between having compassion and being a virtue signaling liar and hypocrite.
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  559. Wannabe vegan Paul Obojski name calling Joe Rogan, what a hypocrite.
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  560. Why do you support violence and murder? You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat. Why is it okay for you but everyone else is doing something bad? Why do you think being a liar and a hypocrite is morally superior to being normal? You do know "murder" is uniquely human and not something that can be done to livestock right? Public school has failed you.
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  561.  @Freakyjohnsson1  "I'm special because I understand that plants are not sentient and you "kill" more plants on an omnivore diet?" This isn't true. More plants aren't killed on an omnivore diet. You're making things up. 85%+ of animal feed is inedible to humans. 12% of animal feed that is edible is processed in industry first to make things like ethanol, soybean oil, and biodiesel. The remaining 2%-3% of animal feed is usually the unsold portions of beans, corn, etc. that isn't sold. "IF" animals were not eaten anymore for whatever reason we would have to grow many more plants so humans could receive a more diverse amount of nutrients that aren't currently available in the quantities needed for a world wide healthy diet. Statistically people who claim to be vegan are on the far left spectrum.
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  562.  @amizan8653  You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat for entertainment pleasure. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment? I know you won't answer this directly and honestly, but I want others to see you're just a hypocrite. I predict you will ignore the question, go into denial, ask me which animal products (proving you don't do your own research, and/or you will justify your needless use of animal products with a doctrine.
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  563. Humans started changing to omnivores when they were gatherers. Insects were part of the diet before meat was ever an option.
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  564. okay?
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  565. murder - the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. Livestock aren't human.
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  566. It's more than the taste. You're a great example. You're fine using products made with the same animals intentionally and needlessly.
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  567. Humans are omnivores by definition. You use animal products from the same animals that normal people eat.
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  568.  @alexndg5260  Are you unable to understand what I already said to you? Is that why you're white knighting for some other liar? Now you want to spew more vitriol for someone else? Do you have a hero complex?
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  569.  @alexndg5260  There you go again, spewing more garbage. I don't know why you're projecting on me. Is it because I called you out or because I am the only person at work bored enough to keep replying? I can fix it though by just ignoring the rest of your garbage since you're unable to answer simple questions yet expect me to answer yours.
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  570. People aren't getting mad at vegans. People in general dislike virtue signaling liars and hypocrites.
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  571.  @amizan8653  Now you're name calling because you can't refute me. You use animal products. You're just a liar and a hypocrite.
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  572.  @chesnek2776  "My problem lies with the poor treatment of animals in slaughterhouses." We can agree on that. "Pigs for instance are shown to be intelligent animals, yet they are chained to the ground and live their entire lives chained to ground." Depends on the farm. But yeah they aren't treated nice at all. "Now you can eat pork and keep it kosher but I believe we need to treat life as life and not be unnecessary cruel to animals that feel pain." We agree again. I just point out that those people aren't vegan. They intentionally and needlessly use animal products. For instance @Ali has been trolling me and slandering me because I pointed out he lied about using animal products and I even took the time to explain to him how. Now he just spams comment sections lying about me. So I started spamming as well. Good to see we agree more than we disagree.
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  573. You're not vegan. No need to lie.
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  574.  @margaretpanama9116  That is a lie. You're not vegan. You use animal products needlessly and intentionally.
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  575. You're making things up. "Murder" is illegal and uniquely human.
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  576.  @bigt4490  Cool story. Still impossible to "murder" non-human animals.
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  577.  @bigt4490  Cool story, still impossible. It's illegal and uniquely human. This isn't an opinion. It a fact.
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  578.  @bigt4490  Actually it is. The official definition even confirms it. Thanks for proving your dishonesty. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  579.  @bigt4490  Thanks for agreeing I am right again. someone - an unknown or unspecified person; some person. "someone" is uniquely human as well. I win again. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  580. So much virtue signaling. You know you use parts of dead animals just like everyone else does right? Why are you exempt?
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  581. ignarance? LOL? deers? What? Tell us more about his "ignarance" while spelling like that.
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  582.  @bzzzzzzBits  I speak 3...and in all 3 the plural of "deer" is "deer." Glad you understand my point. If you are going to name call or insult people, it's best you get it right.
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  583.  @bzzzzzzBits  It's also pretty funny that you think "grammer" is a word. We all use animal products needlessly for entertainment here. Hunting is just a small part of that. You're free to pretend to be against it, but it doesn't help your narrative when you seem fine with it.
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  584.  @bzzzzzzBits  Good to see you can't refute me. I guess you missed this part. We all use animal products needlessly for entertainment here. Hunting is just a small part of that. You're free to pretend to be against it, but it doesn't help your narrative when you seem fine with it. You have no solutions either. Just crying about a guy who said some things you don't like. I guess that's you admitting to being part of the problem. He lives in an area with plentiful deer to hunt and your solution is to allow deer to overpopulate and starve. Typical.
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  585. Thanks for admitting a plant based only diet isn't healthy without supplementation. Bloodwork isn't accurate when supplementing because of the false positives.
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  586.  @xrbperformance4290  And you can't refute me either. B12 from animals is bioavailable to humans. Dirty plants is a good way to get E.coli and B12 isn't as easily absorbed. I accept your concession.
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  587.  @xrbperformance4290  intelectual? That isn't a word. I guess my capacity is greater than yours because I can spell intellectual. Good to see you have nothing to refute me. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  588. Everyone has different body chemistry. Your anecdotal personal history means nothing.
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  589. No video exists like the one you described.
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  590.  @amizan8653  There aren't millions..... You're not vegan. You literally use animal products intentionally and needlessly for entertainment. You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat for entertainment pleasure. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment? I know you won't answer this directly and honestly, but I want others to see you're just a hypocrite. I predict you will ignore the question, go into denial, ask me which animal products (proving you don't do your own research, and/or you will justify your needless use of animal products with a doctrine. Now hit me with your spam reply that doesn't refute me. It just shows you're mad that you can't prove me wrong.
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  591.  @smashmusique  I am pretty sure slavery was outlawed in most civilized places.
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  592.  @smashmusique  I mean....if you really cared as much as you pretend to you would be vegan. If you really thought animals being killed for all of our mutual benefit was so bad you wouldn't use animal products at all.
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  593.  @smashmusique  "animals being killed for our mutual benefit?" Yeah....asphalt roads, refrigerators, power lines, smart phones, computers, routers, servers, motorized vehicles, public transportation, etc etc etc the list is millions of products long. "what do you mean?" I mean you use products made with parts from the same animals normal people eat. If you really cared as much as you pretend to then you would stop. You won't stop though. You're just a hypocrite.
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  594.  @smashmusique  Not very good with English are you? Go upstairs and ask your parents for help, then get back to me.
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  595.  @smashmusique  Okay then. "How does your list uses animal parts?" This doesn't make sense at all. "Even is asphalt roads would need animals death to be produced." Even is? How do you "even is" an asphalt road? "Nobody can be perfect." Okay? And? What does that have to do with anything? "Somewhere, a vegan will indirectly kill an animal." Blatant lie. A vegan can't indirectly kill an animal. They would have to be vegan in the first place to do that. "Don't you agree the goal should be to reduce animal suffering?" Then do that. Reduce the suffering of animals as much as practical and possible. You do it and show me it can be done. You keep replying to me proving you don't have the will to do it. "Doesn't make hypocrisy" What doesn't make hypocrisy? Claiming to be vegan while using animal products and pushing a narrative on others is absolutely hypocritical. You're a hypocrite.
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  596.  @smashmusique  "Can you explain how does all the things in your list use animals products? there's no food " No food? What does that have to do with anything? Do you think leather jackets are food? Do you think candles are food? Do you think soap is food? A typical cow is only about 50%-60% meat. The rest is fat, bones, skin, and collagen. These things are used in a great number of industries. Fat is rendered in to tallow and once purified is used to make LCD screens and as an additive to make hardened plastic less brittle. Bones are scorched and burned to make bone char for black pigment and is used to purify silicon to make glass and computer processors. The skin, some bones, and collagen are used to make gelatin which is sometimes used as an adhesive(glue) in a great number of things you use all of the time and rechargeable lithium Ion batteries. You had to use animal products just to reply to me. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers contain animal products. You had no problem with using the animal products from slaughtered animals to reply to me so I say you're being a hypocrite. You learned something new today. You may thank me and apologize for being slow. "You're logic is.." Straw man argument. My logic is.. don't lie about cattle and I won't call you out on your hypocrisy.
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  597. ​ @smashmusique  Since you can't refute me you just keep going with nonsense? Try harder.
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  598.  @smashmusique  And there it is. "Don't you agree the goal should be to reduce animal suffering?" Yet here you are continuing to use animal products needlessly instead of stopping. "I'm not refuting you." I know. You can't. "My analogy is" Irrelevant. I win. You're a hypocrite. Thanks for trying.
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  599.  @smashmusique  Oh look. Another straw man argument. You keep replying to me so you're okay with animals being used for food and consumer products.
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  600. Next time one of those people claim it is a moral choice ask them if it is okay to use animal products from the same animals killed for meat. If they say no. Explain to them smart phones, computers, routers, cars, trucks, refrigerators, microwaves, servers, asphalt, carpet, drywall, etc etc are made with bits from the same animals normal people eat.
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  601.  @ohmss069  "Yeah I'll bet animal products are in items a lot of us don't realize they are." People claiming to be vegan should know that better than everyone. They are just pretending to be vegan so they can virtue signal. "I think the idea of the moral argument is to reduce harm, and that it's a transition over time rather than a switch instantly to purity." That sounds good. They are skipping quite a few steps by claiming to be vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. They use animal products. They aren't vegan. Reducing harm doesn't make you vegan if you're using animal products while doing it.
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  602. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while making such claims?
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  603.  @harpalgill5935  "I’m not using anything from animals" Remember you typed that. Animal based stearic acid (livestock tallow) and animal based activated carbon (livestock bones) are the industry standard in processor manufacturing. How did you reply without using something with a processor? Smoke signals? Denial and dishonesty is not an answer. I accept your concession.
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  604.  @harpalgill5935  You claimed you didn't use animal products and I proved you did. I told you to remember... "I’m not using anything from animals" You do. You were dishonest. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  605.  @harpalgill5935  Good to see you still can't refute me. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  606. You use products made with the same dead animals. Why do you use animal products needlessly while claiming it's unnecessary? I know you won't answer this plainly and honestly, but I just want everyone else to see your hypocrisy.
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  607.  @jackmichaelpeter  Sure I have. You just choose to ignore it in favor of your narrative. Do you need a phone? Most likely. Do you need to be making comments on youtube? No. Youtube's servers are made with and contain animal products. You're justifying using animal products that are easily avoided and not a necessity at all because you need a phone for work. That's no different than using your phone to order a meat lovers pizza and some chicken wings.....because "phone." So basically you're proving your hypocrisy by claiming it's okay to use whatever animal products you want as long as your phone connects to it..... I already explained this to you. I think I used too many big words last time. I probably did this time as well. Anyway...thanks for confirming you're a hypocrite again. Your concession is accepted.
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  608.  @jackmichaelpeter  Yeah....I'm not going to respond to comment spam. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. Making comments on an entertainment platform is needless no matter how you want to spin it for your narrative. You keep mentioning "potential gelatin" while ignoring the fat and bones. Very typical of you liars and disingenuous hypocrites. You pick one thing apart while ignoring the rest. Bones are the industry standard for purifying mechanical grade silicon. You can shove your "potential gelatine" up your monologuing ignorant ass. You are literally a hypocrite. All of your appeals to emotion can be used to lambast someone else that disagrees with you. Your concession is accepted.
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  609.  @jackmichaelpeter  You have already been proven disingenuous and a hypocrite. There is nothing left for me to prove. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. You use appeals to emotion by comparing human slavery to livestock farming. You use products made with the same dead animals everyone else uses. Even after I explained point number 4 to you no less than 3 times, you still attack strawmen. Its over. You lose. Go to google > Type "define needless" > Push search. It's not rocket science. This will be your canned reply. Your concession is accepted.
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  610.  @JB.zero.zero.1  Just like in plants dippy. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? You're just another wannabe playing pretend because you derive more worth from the claim than the actual practice.
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  611.  @Indrave_2274  "Also notice how you don't need to do these things to live a vegan lifestyle." You're making things up again. "You're just painting vegans as pompous, cushy elitists when that's about as true as the sentiment that only asain people have brown eyes." Vegans don't exist in the modern world. There is no such word in the English dictionary as "asain." It is quite possible for a mythical people to have a certain color eyes. Elves can have purple eyes. "so you're vegan if you cut out the unnecessary suffering from your current lifestyle." Thanks again for agreeing with me that vegans don't exist. No one cuts out unnecessary suffering from their lifestyle so no one is vegan. "Hell, this could technically mean simply eating less meat " Nah... Vegan (noun) - a person who does not EAT or USE animal products. Less meat = not vegan. No meat + animal products = not vegan. You = not vegan. You're just a virtue signaling liar and hypocrite pushing an agenda you don't even follow yourself. Practice what you preach.
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  612.  @Indrave_2274  "Do you eat meat or animal products?" You already claimed I "eat" meat in another comment. Prove it. It's hilarious that you have to make things up just to argue against me and when you get caught in a lie you resort to going to another comment to question me about the lie you already told.
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  613.  @Indrave_2274  "Sure, you can argue that." I did. "However, you haven't answered my question." You haven't proven your claim. You're a liar.
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  614.  @Indrave_2274  "Yeah, well, I assumed you eat meat because you're kind of a useless tool." You are a proven liar so now you're admitting to your lies while name calling. "Now, are you going to answer my question of whether or not you eat meat or animal products?" That is my business. You made the claim that I do. So it is up to you to prove it. Good luck with that. "If not, I will take that as a concession." You already lost when you admitted to being a liar. "That would be the easiest win of them all" I already won. I predict you will reply again with another inane comment.
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  615.  @Indrave_2274  Glad you admit that you're a liar, hypocrite, and you virtue signal for attention. The ultimate win. When all I do is pointing out virtue signaling liars and hypocrites, it's nice having one of them admit to being the trash they are.
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  616.  @Indrave_2274  "I'm trash? How so?" Because you admit to being trash by admitting you're a virtue signaling liar and hypocrite. I won. Everything after this is just you devolving into whining about me calling you trash for being an admitted virtue signaling liar and hypocrite.
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  617.  @Indrave_2274  "For one to be a virtue signaler, one needs to fit the definition of what it is to virtue signal." virtue signaling - the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue. You do that. "Likewise, for one to be a hypocrite, one needs to fit the definition of what a hypocrite is." the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; You do this as well. "However, the term "trash" is different." trash (noun) - a person or people regarded as being of very low social standing. Liars and hypocrites are at the lowest of social standings. "But, of course, you wouldn't want to get into morality with me haha." Virtue signaling again while you use animal products. You automatically lose. Thanks again for the easy win. I predict yet another inane reply.
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  618.  @Indrave_2274  Two replies? Triggered? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? Just as I expected. You decided to go with inane comments. Why don't you tell us all about "asains" with brown eyes, whatever that means.
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  619.  @Indrave_2274  "You're avoiding argument and have nothing to add but ad-hominem lol." You're lying again. You're derailing the original argument because you lost. Quote the ad hominem. You should probably look up the definition. "Thanks for the easy win. Nothing but babble, as expected." Fake it until you make it? Still not going to tell us what a "asain" is?
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  620. "Please explain how my iron in my blood and B12 increased on veganism???" It didn't. You're lying. You can't eat veganism and it is not a diet.
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  621. It worked for Steve Jobs. He was on a fruit/water diet to get rid of his cancer. It worked, his cancer stopped growing.
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  622. You use animal products just like everyone else. I guess it is only wrong for everyone except you?
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  623. 0% Vegans.... No need for you to lie. You're not vegan. You use animal products. Why do you use animal products while lying about being vegan?
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  624.  @ameensh2439  Proof of? Be more specific. Use your words. Maybe ask a parent for help.
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  625.  @ameensh2439  Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Everyone currently living on the planet eats and/or uses animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with fat, gelatin, and/or bones. Simply making a comment on youtube proves you're not vegan. Now instead of derailing or babbling about doctrines....answer the question. Why do you use animal products while lying about being vegan?
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  626.  @ameensh2439  "I havent disrespected you for you to keep making harsh comments." Lying and making things up is disrespectful. You should stop disrespecting people if you don't want them to disrespect you. "Anyway, do you know what the definition of veganism is?" I know exactly what the definition is and I know it is not the definition of "vegan" which is a different word. "So yes I am vegan in that sense." In the sense that you're making things up? You're being disrespectful again. You needlessly use animal products. You're not vegan. You needlessly use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid. You don't practice veganism. Now stop being disrespectful and answer the question. Why do you use animal products while lying about being vegan?
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  627.  @ameensh2439  "First of all, I am free to say whatever I believe in whether its true or false." And I am free to think you're being disrespectful when you aren't truthful. "Second, if I did lie or if you think I'm lying that technically isnt disrespectful, because you're assuming that in lying." Lying to people is disrespectful. I am not assuming. I am stating fact. "And again its freedom of speech." Freedom of speech is not freedom from being called out for lying. "Moreover, you are being offensive to me directly and thats different to someone lying especially as an assumption." Calling my facts "assumption" is disrespectful. "Moving on, you didnt answer me so whats the definition of veganism and vegan?" I knew you were going to babble about a doctrine... You still haven't answered my first question... It's very odd that you're upset that I didn't answer your inane questions while you are intentionally evading mine. "After you answer this question, we can take it from there, so we make sure we have the same understanding before we move on." I use the definitions created by the Vegan Society. Now that you don't have any more excuses. Why do you use animal products while lying about being vegan?
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  628.  @ameensh2439  Nah, it's your turn. Answer the question or concede. Why do you use animal products while lying about being vegan?
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  629.  @ameensh2439  "You haven't even answered mine for it to be my turn." I asked first and gave you the definitions I used. Answer or concede.
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  630.  @ameensh2439  4 months later and you still can't come up with an answer. I accept your concession.
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  631.  @ameensh2439  "If you see this differently and you still continue on disrespecting me." You have been disrespecting me since the beginning with your lies and hypocrisy. You're also a hypocrite when it comes to answering questions. You whine about me not answering you while you still haven't answered the very first question in my very first comment. I answered several of your questions.....such a hypocrite. Looks like you're coming up with several excuses to be done. "If you're disrespectful blah blah (sensitive man baby whining) blah." Thanks for the win and your concession.
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  632. Actually closer to 20-25%. You still use animal products just like everyone else.
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  633.  @bearcathampton5844  You're forgetting all of the animal products you use.
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  634.  @bearcathampton5844  Cool story. Thanks for agreeing you aren't "vegan."
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  635.  @bearcathampton5844  Pay attention. There is no percentage. Pay attention. You either are or you aren't. Pay attention. You aren't. Pay attention. If there was a percentage... You use animal products needlessly for entertainment. 0% You eat eggs and cheese. 0% Pay attention. Total.... 0% Pay attention. Thanks for agreeing I am right by not being able to refute me. Pay close attention. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  636.  @bearcathampton5844  The official definition proves otherwise. - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You both eat and use animal products. Good to see you have no argument. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  637.  @bearcathampton5844  Since you are reduced to going by my original comment, I win. You literally use animal products just like everyone else here and you said in your first comment that you eat them as well. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  638. The restaurant location and name are in the first 25 seconds of the video...
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  639. Not true at all. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. If you searched what animal products were used in you would know that 0% of India is vegan.
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  640. You literally use animal products needlessly... Go !!!! at a mirror.
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  641. He isn't even a real doctor. Take your pseudoscience elsewhere.
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  642.  @daviecarranza1474  Cool story. Lol...he didn't cure A.I.D.S. You made the claim. Prove it. The burden of proof is on you. Since you claim to have went to "Collage" I am sure you can come up with some more pseudoscience.
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  643. Hitler was vegetarian. His SS wore leather overcoats and leather boots. One would think a vegan would be able to notice something like that.
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  644. They did in the full video.
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  645. James doesn't practice what he preaches. He literally eats and uses animal products.
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  646. "We were still omnivores then?" Yeah. Just like gorillas today are omnivores.
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  647.  @Raystonebooks  You never heard of sushi?
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  648.  @Raystonebooks  "I don't know anyone that eats raw meat, you?" So you lied? Or is backpedaling now an accepted debate tactic when caught in a lie? "All of that has to be cooked for us to eat it." And? That is how we evolved. We were omnivores eating bugs and such until we discovered how easy and tasty it was to cook the meat. Now we mostly eat cooked meat. I do know of a family close to me that eats uncooked beef. So your original comment is debunked. We were eating animals long before we knew we could cook meat.
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  649.  @Raystonebooks  Like primates now we also ate bugs. Just a fact. We were omnivores long before we started cooking meat.
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  650. Look up "persistence hunting" and get back to me. Humans were hunting deer long before rifles were invented.
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  651.  @amizan8653  All the vegans around the world....total number 0. Everyone on the planet eats and/or uses animal products.
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  652.  @amizan8653  Now you're name calling because you can't refute me. You use animal products. You're just a liar and a hypocrite.
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  653. "countless scientific studies" A vegan diet with animal tested lab supplements. 😂🤣
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  654.  @doobie6971  Okay link some of those "countless" studies. You can't can you? You call me brainwashed while being unable to back up your lie. That's hilarious.
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  655. Humans were eating animals long before cooking became a method of eating them. Just like Gorillas now eat animals.
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  656.  @JB.zero.zero.1  Just like you and everyone else here. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? You're just another wannabe playing pretend because you derive more worth from the claim than the actual practice.
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  657. Murder is uniquely human and illegal. Livestock slaughter is legal and they aren't human.
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  658. His business profited from that display. You say triggered, I say advertising.
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  659. We are omnivores. Not all omnivores eat every type of plant or animals. Ask someone about eating sushi. Ask them how they purify their "raw" fish before they eat it.
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  660.  @stephanwatson7902  It took you two replies to get your thoughts together? Bad diet effecting your brain? "So we're both wrong and that makes me feel better" Speak for yourself. You lied and I gave you an example of how you were wrong. "An omnivore is an animal that has the ability to eat and survive on both plant and animal matter. Obtaining energy and nutrients from plant and animal matter, omnivores digest carbohydrates, protein, fat, and fiber, and metabolize the nutrients and energy of the sources absorbed."
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  661.  @stephanwatson7902  Four replies and name calling because you can't keep your thoughts together? "Like me for instance I dont need to try and rub it in when someone is incorrect on something so very unimportant." Yet here you are making multiple comments to a single reply while name calling and whining. LOL "Instead I like pointing out how stupid, ego-driven, immature and narcissistic people like you are" You like projecting because other people are smarter than you? You're calling me stupid because you didn't know something taught before high school. Thanks for the laugh and the easy win.
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  662.  @stephanwatson7902  Another two replies? And you call me stupid? You can't even keep your thoughts together. So you have nothing really? You already admitted to being wrong. Anything else?
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  663.  @parthmudgal9270  You fell into the trap. The majority of livestock feed is inedible to humans and is grown for human consumption. Unless you actually believe the cows, pigs, and chickens enjoy eating and drinking ethanol, soybean oil, palm oil, beer, biodiesel, plastic, etc...
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  664.  @parthmudgal9270  The one you seem to think we live in. The majority of livestock feed is inedible to humans and are byproducts of those industries. The majority of agriculture isn't for feed. It's for humans. The animals get the byproducts, overstock, contaminated, grass, etc.
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  665.  @parthmudgal9270  The FAO. Sorry I used an actual Government Agency with stats backed by actual data instead of some college kid's research paper. Anything else?
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  666. I see you graduated from Tarded college with a bachelors in babble.
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  667. Conspiracy theory. Gluttony is bad. Eating healthy is not. To prove this. First eat a nice salad with some broccoli, mashed potatoes, and chicken. Then... Go eat a bowl of hemlock which would be plant based. Let me know which one is bad for you AFTER you do it.
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  668.  @mushshrap6471  Did you see the full video and the interviews with the activists? They were literally asked if they supported abortion and many of them said yes.
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  669. "We can’t bite into bare animal flesh" Tell the Baleen Whale that it's no longer a carnivore. "We can’t hunt animals without weapons" Search "hand fishing" and "persistence hunting." "We get sick if we eat raw meat" Carpaccio, Kitfo, Yookhwe, Steak Tartare, Parisa, Ossenworst, Mett, Koi Soi, Bo Tai Chanh, Gored Gored, Kibbeh Nayyeh, Crudos, Carne Apache, Cig Kofte, Basashi, and Sushi prove you're lying. "We have to clean, cut, and prepare meat to make it palatable" We have to clean, cut, and prepare most vegetables too. Are you saying we shouldn't eat anything? "Our bodies can’t digest meat as well as fruits and vegetables" Meat is far more dense in nutrients than vegetables/fruits and takes longer to digest. "Numerous illnesses arise from excess in meat consumption.. never with fruits or vegetables " You're leaving out the deficiencies and diabetes. How convenient... "Gorillas CAN consume meat in utter starvation but they thrive on their herbivore diet." Gorillas are omnivores. They regularly eat animals. "Understand this and realize humans aren’t meat eaters BY NATURE." We are omnivores by nature. Literal fact. "Not without its consequences though." The majority of the "consequences" are due to overeating.
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  670.  @Lifeishard237  Just proving you wrong. I wasn't trying to change your mind.
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  671. @CasualDude So you typed out a short story for nothing. Everything I said is factual and true. Try again.
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  672. @CasualDude Nothing you said refutes anything I said. So no I won't bother.
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  673. @CasualDude "Veganism is scientifically the healthiest diet" Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle. It is not a diet. I get that you're in to fan fiction but you shouldn't lie to people and type up short stories because you're sad that you're not vegan.
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  674. @CasualDude "Veganism can refer both to the broader philosophy or the diet." Blatant lie. "The word veganism shall mean the doctrine that man should live without exploiting animals." - Leslie Cross Ignored the rest of your anecdotal babble.
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  675. @CasualDude " It's funny watching a meat-eater so obviously WAY out of their depth." Quote me where I claimed to eat meat. If you can't find the quote feel free to apologize for being a liar. Try again.
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  676. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it?
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  677.  @amizan8653  You use animal products form the same animals that die for food. You're just a liar and a hypocrite pushing a narrative that you don't even believe in.
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  678.  @amizan8653  More name calling because you can't refute me.
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  679. Just ignoring that humans ate bugs before they had the ability or knowledge to cook meat. We were omnivores long before cooked meat ever came along. Primates are omnivores as well. Many happily eat insects and grubs.
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  680.  @YoungEarthCreation  Why did you build a straw man? I just said they did it. I never said anything more. We were omnivores long before cooked meat ever came along. Primates are omnivores as well. Many happily eat insects and grubs.
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  681.  @YoungEarthCreation  I can pull an apple off a tree and eat it. I am an omnivore.
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  682.  @YoungEarthCreation  I can pull a carrot out of the ground and eat it. I can pull an onion out of the ground and eat it. I can pull a potato out of the ground and eat it. I can pull lettuce out of the ground and eat it. Just blew up your lies and your terrible narrative.
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  683.  @YoungEarthCreation  They are still vegetables. I win.
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  684.  @shadowdancer3531  I never said vegetables were fruit. "Our systems were not designed to be omnivores, did you know it takes up to 12 hours for meat," Did you know the length of time it takes to digest something does not determine if we are an omnivore? The fact that we can digest both plants and animals proves we are omnivores. Period. You may have an extra chromosome.
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  685.  @YoungEarthCreation  "She thinks that because something can eat something that it should. By that standard I guess that’s why people are so fat nowadays." Blatant lie. I never said that.
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  686. Just laugh at them for showing their IQ. Murder is illegal and uniquely human.
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  687.  @Indrave_2274  Can't believe anything you type. You're a proven liar and hypocrite. You claim to be vegan while blatantly using animal products. You're just the same as the rest of them. Ignorant virtue signaling liars and hypocrites.
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  688.  @Indrave_2274  I do? Prove it. If you can't prove that I "eat" meat then you admit to being a liar. Thanks for the easy win.
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  689.  @Indrave_2274  So you can't read either...wow. The quotes are around "eat." Try again dippy. Edit: Now this idiot is asking me if I eat meat in a different comment.
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  690. No one hates on vegans. Everyone dislikes virtue signaling hypocrites.
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  691. James lost before he ever showed up. He claims to be "vegan" and yet he eats and uses animal products. Just another wannabe who pretends to be against using animal products for monetary gain.
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  692.  @malatwork3890  Of course it's true and easily searched. I accept your concession.
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  693.  @Ghazithasoulja  "None of them are vegan?!" No. They use animal products. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. "I guess then it's a strange title to have that says ...Vegan Protestors." So when I find a title about flat Earth that means it's magically real....because it says so in the title? 😂🤣 "You're saying your benefit is worth more than its life." So does everyone living in the modern world. We all use animal products for our own convenience and entertainment. You, me, everyone.
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  694.  @Ghazithasoulja  Still triggered and full of it I see. "Also, asphalt is the distillate of petroleum or petroleum-based byproducts." So you didn't know cattle/pig animal fat is used to keep the asphalt from sticking to the mixing surface? Cool. You could have just admitted to being ignorant. "Not sure why routers and phones would need animal products because they aren't known for their conductivity or for their heat resistance." So you didn't know mechanical grade silicon is purified using bones? You didn't know glass is purified with bones? You didn't know refined fat was used to make the plastic less brittle? You didn't know lithium batteries used gelatin because it is non-conductive? Admit your ignorance instead of playing the assumption game. "Trying to insult me isn't going to give credence to your poor arguments." Says the person being sexist and condescending. Didn't you call me "sweetheart" in one of your replies? "u" and "ur" aren't words. Learn to spell and try again.
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  695.  @Ghazithasoulja  Still having trouble keeping your thoughts together I see. All I see is ur and sweetheart and more babble because you can't spell like an adult. Try again.
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  696.  @Ghazithasoulja  Your ad hominem about my maturity is ironic since you're the one that is being sexist and spelling like a child. Thanks for the win.
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  697.  @user-ye9bc7nw2c  So just name calling because you're mad that I am right or mad you can't refute me?
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  698.  @user-ye9bc7nw2c  Thanks for proving you can't refute the facts. Anything else? More inane babble?
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  699.  @user-ye9bc7nw2c  Thanks for proving you can't refute me. I win.
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  700. Lowest is Lesotho. Which fake study did you use?
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  701. "Im vegan" No one asked... "but I hate telling people i am" And yet you did it in the first two words.
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  702. "Do you see apes eat meat??" Yes. All of the time. They eat large amounts of insect meat.
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  703.  @tryfreeforexsignalstoday  You're reply is nonsensical. Are you okay? "To those who cannot leace meat " leace? Do you have an extra chromosome?
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  704.  @tryfreeforexsignalstoday  Two replies? Can't keep your thoughts together or even address the actual comment? Thanks for the easy win I guess.
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  705.  @tryfreeforexsignalstoday  Another two inane comments that don't address my comment. Is that why you reply multiple times? You just keep tossing out irrelevant and off topic babble in hopes something may work? Thanks for the easy win. Take your loss like an adult and go learn to spell like one.
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  706.  @tryfreeforexsignalstoday  So now you're name calling because you were debunked? Are you okay in the head? "You can't even spell the word "insane" correctly." So you didn't know inane is a word? inane (adjective) - silly; stupid. You're just proving that you're slow.
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  707.  @tryfreeforexsignalstoday  I don't know what "yoh" has to do with anything. Learn to spell. You could just as easily stop messaging me. Practice what you preach.
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  708.  @tryfreeforexsignalstoday  "it says "You" idiot." It does now. You edited it. Aaron Truth TV 1 hour ago (edited) You're so insecure you have to lie about misspelling simple words. And you're saying you "gotta" block me. This is hilarious. Yes. Be the child that takes his ball home because he was picked last. Block me child.
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  709. Can't murder livestock. If you believe so strongly that killing animals is wrong then why do you use products of their slaughter?
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  710.  @bluelagoon5  "Are you high?" Nope, just educated. murder - the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. Livestock aren't human. "I don't use products of their slaughter." And you're a liar. Two for two. Stupid and a liar. You use animal products every time you comment. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are all made with and/or contain animal products. Try again dippy.
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  711.  @carterhoward2827  You're a liar. You're not vegan. You use animal products needlessly.
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  712.  @carterhoward2827  What did you not understand? Is your diet causing you to have reading comprehension problems?
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  713.  @carterhoward2827  You're legit a liar. You literally use animal products intentionally and needlessly. You're literally not vegan. Continuing to lie doesn't make it a fact.
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  714.  @carterhoward2827  The fact that you're intentionally and needlessly using animal products. I would think a liar claiming to be vegan would have done research on what it means to be vegan. I guess I was wrong again. You people just like to virtue signal. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and/or contain animal products. You are literally using animal products every time you comment. Thanks for the easy win.
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  715.  @carterhoward2827  I guess you learned something new. The silence is deafening. 😂😃🤣
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  716.  @shadowcolorado3668  They usually end up eating their own. We will see.
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  717. Why have different divisions in the first place? May the best athlete win in any sport. If you aren't good enough to qualify then you don't qualify and can't compete.
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  718.  @aaronstepien2363  So? I thought we all wanted equality? Isn't that equality?
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  719.  @aaronstepien2363  Not me. I would rather the most qualified do the job. If that so happens to be only men then so be it. My country has a horrible history of segregation and the current democrats are trying to continue in that direction. It's past time we had true equality.
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  720.  @aaronstepien2363  Pass on that wall of text. You're not going to change my mind.
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  721.  @MrTimjm009  "men and women are not equal ." Duh. "It is about establishing equal respect and value for both." That doesn't have to be in sports. "The problem has always been that women didnt get the same recognition and value for those things ." And we shouldn't if we are only going to whine about how men get paid more for sports.
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  722.  @MrTimjm009  I am not implying that nor have I ever pretended that. I have no idea where you're getting that implication from. I think we should give rad fems exactly what they want. Complete and true equality. Once the radicals get what they want they will beg for it to go back.
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  723. "Once you get past the annoying look-at-me vegans" And then... "Went vegan and never looked back." You never went vegan....you changed your diet. You still use animal products needlessly just like everyone else.
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  724.  @melanievoltz9844  So just name calling and insults because you can't refute what I actually said.... Thanks for your concession.
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  725. And long before we ate cooked meat there were other things that humans ate from the animal kingdom. People think being an omnivore means we have sharp teeth for tearing flesh while not realizing that omnivores and carnivores come in many shapes and sizes. Anteaters eat fruit and insects.
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  726. murder - the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. Livestock aren't human.
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  727.  @XEN-ZOMBIE  You're wrong though. Murder is uniquely human. It's the difference between an animals instinct and a humans premeditation. I cared enough to reply and you cared enough to defend your ignorance. "If all human's died. The earth would be better off." No one is stopping you.
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  728.  @XEN-ZOMBIE  "Involuntary manslaughter for example or negligent homicide." manslaughter - the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder. It's literally in the name. MAN. homicide - the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another; murder. Livestock is not a person. Homicide is a synonym for murder. "So, no, your wrong." you're* Learn to spell. You're still wrong. "Not sure why I need to explain any of this." You should do some of those simple google searches before you make things up. " Maybe you just want to fight rather than understand or learn anything." That's exactly what you're doing. Instead of learning you're fighting. I win the argument. Thanks for trying I guess.
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  729.  @XEN-ZOMBIE  Three comments? Unable to keep your thoughts together? "Because we are animals." Yep, and human which the definitions apply. "Also, you came onto youtube video to defend the killing of animals by arguing definitions." Nope, just pointing out your mistake and lies. Thanks again for the win. Have any more babble or denial?
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  730.  @XEN-ZOMBIE  Three more comments? Must be that brain fog I heard about. "Why do you act like a dick rather than have a discussion?" I have no reason to be nice to liars and people that make up fan fiction on the spot. "If your only focus is with winning your missing the point." This doesn't make sense. Learn to spell. "And we can solve it by removing killing from the equation as much as we can." Why are you using animal products made with the same dead animals while pushing a narrative? That seems hypocritical to me. Just more babble, goalpost moving, and lies. You lose again.
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  731.  @XEN-ZOMBIE  "Yeah I broke it up because i know you love it." Nah. We both know you can't concentrate on your defense. "English isnt my first language," Not my problem. And more ad hominem name calling because you lost. Very typical of you liars. I figured you would be incapable of answering the question. Why are you using animal products made with the same dead animals while pushing a narrative? I win again. You're a liar.
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  732.  Ivara Skathi  Why are you criticizing someone for something you do yourself? "What I communicate is not propaganda, it is moral consistency. " This is a blatant lie. Why are you such a hypocrite?
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  733.  Ivara Skathi  "So while I AM technically a hypocrite" Ahh so you admit to justifying the deaths of the same animals that people eat when you use their flesh for entertainment. I get it. You are the textbook definition of a hypocrite. "The difference between vegans and non-vegans is that non-vegans take this to an extreme" The difference is vegans don't exist. "they unnecessarily torture and kill animals for taste pleasure." And you do it for entertainment. "Do you see no problem with this?" Nope. "Are you really going to call me a hypocrite rather than acknowledging the blatant immorality of eating meat?" Yep. You are a hypocrite. You criticize others for the deaths of the same animals you're happy to use for entertainment. Anything else or are you going to babble more about your justifications for being a hypocrite?
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  734.  Ivara Skathi  "Entertainment?" Yes. Youtube is for entertainment. You are here for your own reasons to be a hypocrite. "Where are you getting this idea lmao" From the facts. "you think I go the the circus or something? You're the clown here you absolute joke." Straw man, red herring, and ad hominem. "Keep projecting, Janie." I don't need to project anything. You already admitted to being a hypocrite. "So while I AM technically a hypocrite" "The only one babbling here is you." Now you're projecting. "If you see nothing wrong with killing animals solely for taste pleasure, you may be a psychopath." Another straw man. I didn't say that. Anything else or just more babble, hypocrisy, and insults because you can't refute me?
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  735.  Ivara Skathi  I get it. You were outed as a hypocrite and proven wrong in the same comment thread you were being condescending and now you're upset. Maybe apologize to @fetanyl patch and myself instead of being such a loser.
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  736.  Ivara Skathi  So nothing else? Either you decided to finally practice what you preach and stop using youtube routers and servers (made with animal products) needlessly or you realized you aren't intelligent enough to debate this topic since you started it out by being a hypocrite.
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  737.  Ivara Skathi  "Oh, still here?" Janie Swanson 1 day ago Yeah I replied to your post before this and you ran away then. "Either way, you clearly have no idea what veganism is, so I'll leave you with this:" You can't refute me so you leave an irrelevant video and run away. LOL Vegan (noun) is a word that describes a person. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. This is the definition that the Vegan Society petitioned Oxford University for placement in their reference. Every living person on the planet currently eats and/or uses animal products. Veganism is a doctrine that describes a lifestyle. "The word veganism shall mean the doctrine that man should live without exploiting animals." - Leslie Cross founding member of the vegan society and author of "Veganism Defined." This is the doctrine that they later made to describe a life style of avoiding animal products when possible and practicable. There is no one that actually does this because convenience, hobbies, fun, and entertainment is always more important than possible and practicable. You prove this every time you reply to me using animal products that are easily avoided. Replying to me using your electronics is not a necessity of life. "Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of and cruelty to animals for food, clothing and any other purpose." Notice the definition of veganism does not include the word "person" or "vegan" in any form? This is because veganism is not the definition of vegan nor is failing at practicing veganism. "way of living" = lifestyle "exclude, as far as is possible and practicable" - This includes convenience, hobbies, fun, entertainment, and replying to people on youtube. "all forms" - Does "all forms" mean "all forms" in your country? Maybe it just means "everything except what is inconvenient." "any other purpose" - smart phones, routers, computers, servers, refrigerators, microwaves, asphalt roads, carpet, drywall, televisions, etc.....and millions more items long. If it is not a necessity for life then using it means you don't practice the doctrine of veganism. Thanks for the easy win. You people always prove me right.
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  738.  Ivara Skathi  Since you can't debunk me you throw out a "vegan gains" red herring. Thanks again for the easy win.
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  739.  Ivara Skathi  Another derailing comment that doesn't debunk anything I said. "I can throw all the logic and facts I want at you, but I know your type - you think you're in the right no matter what." How could you know that? You haven't thrown any facts at me and your logic is hypocritical logical fallacies. Appeals to emotion and appeals to popularity. "It's charming in a sad way how you're committed to your logical fallacies" Says the person preaching hypocrisy and spouting fallacy after fallacy. "I would just be wasting my time." You do that every time you pretend to be vegan to shove your hypocritical morals at someone. "Just know that it makes you a horrible person if you continue to do so after knowing they feel pain. What I communicate is not propaganda, it is moral consistency." Remember this? This is you using animal products to make a comment using routers and servers needlessly. This is you being a massive hypocrite. Not only have I won you have now implied your own defeat. Thanks again. You make it easy when you're a hypocrite.
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  740.  @zeflixy9814  "your criticizing someone for something you disagree with" What do you think I disagree with?
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  741.  @zeflixy9814  "your criticizing someone for something you disagree with" you're* Learn to spell. Prove I disagree with what I am criticizing them for. Not much of a fact when you spell like a 5 year old.
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  742.  @zeflixy9814  So you can't prove your accusation? Anything else?
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  743.  @zeflixy9814  Four replies? Are you okay? Unable to keep your thoughts together? "read your replies narcissist" More name calling without proof. "I’m not the one apart of a cult so keep hating because I’m eating a burger rn" This doesn't make sense. Did you really mean "apart" instead of "a part"? Enjoy your burger. "I’m finna finish eating McDonald’s" Okay? "no it just pointless to argue with someone who obviously is narcissist and stupid" So you can't prove your accusation? Thanks for the win I guess.
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  744. It's easy to be anti-liar. People claiming to be vegan make the diet look bad.
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  745. Don't bother using logic. Those people are unable to handle such things.
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  746.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  "victom" is not a word. It is actually. They have doctrines. They try to convert others. They suppress skepticism. They delegitimize former members. They rely on shaming others. They resort to clichés and nonsense instead of engaging in factual arguments. They pretend to be morally superior. All signs of religion and a cult.
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  747.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  Good to see you can't refute me. I accept your concession.
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  748.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  You use animal products from the same animals that I and everyone else uses. I don't know why you think you don't. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  749.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  You literally use animal products needlessly so you do support the slaughter even if it is unknowingly. Good to see you still have nothing to refute me. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  750.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  Thanks for admitting you use animal products needlessly for entertainment because it's "pretty hart." Whatever that means... I accept your ongoing concession because you just proved your dishonesty.
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  751.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  You think replying to me is required for survival? LOL Thanks again for proving you are in denial and justify not practicing what you preach with nonsense justifications. Thanks for the win and your final concession since you still haven't even refuted me.
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  752.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  You're not making sense. Ask a kid to help you spell. Good to see you still have nothing to refute me. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  753.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  Name calling is not an argument. Another easy win for me. Make an argument instead of spelling like a kid and name calling. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  754.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  " I didn't call you names" You called me a bot. Thanks for proving your dishonesty. Since you have proven your dishonesty you also automatically admit defeat. Thanks for the easy win and your final concession.
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  755.  @citydogband  "ur saying not a single person is vegan?" ur? Are you 8? Name one living person that doesn't eat or use animal products. Just one. Good luck with that. "Have about u stop being pretentious and belittling a positive lifestyle?" u? Yeah...8 year old confirmed. You're making things up. I only belittled liars and hypocrites pretending to be vegan. "Are u vegan?" u? Again? Public school is failing you. I am not vegan. I eat and/or use animal products just like everyone else.
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  756.  @citydogband  So still can't refute me? Cool, I win. Funny that you think I am a Trump supporter just because I am using facts you don't like.
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  757.  @citydogband  You're* Learn to spell. You're the one saying not a single person on Earth is vegan. I simply asked you to name one. You haven't. I guess you can't. You lose. Try again. Maybe try leaving all of the insults out of this since you're so bad at them.
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  758.  @citydogband  So you're just ignorant. That's okay. I understand. You didn't know smart phones, computers, routers, servers, refrigerators, microwaves, asphalt, carpet, drywall, etc.. are all made with and/or contain animal products. Specifically fat, gelatin, and bones. All of those people you named do in fact use animal products. Thanks for the win. Get educated.
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  759.  @citydogband  Still can't refute anything I said? You're also calling me fat? I only weigh 45kgs. As usual, a triggered liar can't refute anything and resorts to insults because facts hurt their feelings. I win.
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  760.  @citydogband  What does your age have to do with it? What is a "9n earth"? u? Are you mad that you can't refute facts? Is that why you're name calling? You're the one that claimed no one on Earth is vegan. I am simply asking you to name one person that is vegan and you can't do it. Try again.
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  761.  @citydogband  "I never said no one on earth is vegan I was quoting you." So you don't know how a quote works either? Public school has failed you. Give me an exact quote from this thread. Good luck with that liar. And more crying and name calling because you're mad. I expect as much. "Please get a life thousands of people are vegan as best as they realistically can be." So no one? You still can't name a single person that doesn't eat or use animal products. I guess that's why you're so mad. You're realizing that you lied and instead of just owning that fact now you're just backpedaling and getting defensive. Thanks again for the easy win. If you can't refute me then I win. If you can't name a single living person that doesn't eat or use animal products, I win. Good luck. Try to calm down.
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  762.  @travisswartz3587  Is there a reason you said my name twice? Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are not on that list. He uses some of those in each reply and they are made with animal products from the same dead animals that normal people eat.
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  763.  @travisswartz3587  "I couldnt find any either, though the list was very long and I didnt check all of it." I did. "If a vegan was put in charge they would likely make those changes." Can't put a vegan in charge. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Everyone eats and/or uses animal products. "You didnt answer my question though" I will paste it again since you missed it the first time. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are not on that list. He uses some of those in each reply and they are made with animal products from the same dead animals that normal people eat. "Vegans don't run things in the world so they can't control all of this." Sigh... Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Everyone eats and/or uses animal products. "if vegans could control how all products are made, would they eliminate animal product from everything?" If the nonexistent had control would they do a thing they can't do because they don't exist? Ask me about unicorns and fire breathing dragons next. "I think they are morally consistent in their belief where I would say yes." You think nonexistent humans are morally consistent? Okay....sure. If you eat or use animal products, you're not vegan. If you eat or use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid, you don't practice veganism. Let's use you as an example. Replying to me using all of the hardware, cables, etc. is possible and practicable to avoid by simply not replying at all with your made up babble and fan fiction. Anything else?
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  764.  @travisswartz3587  "The idea of veganism is people who actively try to avoid using animal products" Do you often make things up when you don't know and try to pass it off as fact? "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." It is possible and practicable to stop replying to strangers with made up fan fiction. "You said he willingly does it when it can easily be avoided, what products do you know of?" Already listed above. Do you have a hard time with reading comprehension? Is that why you decided to start making things up? Get caught up with the facts and do some research. I am not your teacher. Ask your parents for help if you need it.
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  765. ​ @travisswartz3587  So nothing to say? Just a bunch of "if" this and "if" that? Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Eating or using animal products means you're not vegan. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." Eating or using animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid means you don't practice veganism. Anything else?
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  766.  @travisswartz3587  "The definition of veganism you quoted is spot on and we agree." Then you agree with me on everything. It is possible and practicable to avoid replying to me. I win. "Overall I'm not really sure what your position towards vegans are" I don't have a position towards people that don't exist. I hold the same position on unicorns and fire breathing dragons. Apparently you didn't read. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Eating or using animal products means you're not vegan. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." Eating or using animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid means you don't practice veganism. Try again. Use facts next time.
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  767.  @travisswartz3587  Two replies? Triggered? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? "A key point in that." It's "possible and practicable" to stop replying to me. Just debunked your first reply. "I don't believe telling people not to use" I didn't tell anyone to stop using anything. I am simply stating that by definition of "vegan" eating or using animal products means you're not vegan. It seems you're conflating the definitions of "vegan" and "veganism" to arrive at a made up narrative. To be vegan you can't eat or use animal products. To practice veganism you can't eat or use animal products that are "possible and practicable" to avoid. What are you not understanding?
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  768.  @travisswartz3587  "I didnt say you told people to stop using anything." Okay. "I don't believe telling people not to use refrigerators, asphalt, carpet, wood, computers, pretty much every day material we can't avoid would be considered practicable." "I also mentioned I wasn't vegan, just added that second reply because I thought of it afterward." I know you're not vegan. "Vegan and veganism is the same thing." Please cite the official source that states that. Good luck finding that. "The things you listed seem very unlikely to avoid in almost every society." Replying to me is very unlikely to avoid? LOL "You're focused too much on semantics here," Ah yes. The typical holdout for people who don't like facts. Vegan is a word that describes a person. Veganism is a word that describes a doctrine. They are not the same thing. Try again. Stop making things up.
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  769.  @travisswartz3587  "The definition describes things that are possible and practicable to avoid" You're confusing the definitions again. " the things you mentioned would be pretty much impossible to avoid if you wanted to be apart of society in any way." Using animal products means you're not vegan. Using products that are "possible and practicable" to avoid means you aren't practicing veganism. "You mentioned my diet so I don't know what you would be talking about if you didn't think I was a vegan." I know you're not vegan. No one is vegan. Everyone currently living in the modern world uses animal products. "I really shouldn't have to explain to you that there is no difference in vegan and veganism" B-b-but, "yes one is a person and one is an ideology" So you agree with me. You're never going to get anywhere with me. Vegan and veganism are different words with different definitions. They are not the same thing. Anything else?
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  770.  @travisswartz3587  "No I don't see anything you have written I agree with." Scroll up and read what has been said slower. "I really shouldn't have to explain to you that there is no difference in vegan and veganism" B-b-but, "yes one is a person and one is an ideology" So you agree with me. Read this again. "Like I said, these things aren't practicable and possible to avoid" Is it your extra chromosome or lack of medication that is preventing you from understanding? You're conflating two different words with two different definitions instead of reading what I am telling you. You're NOT vegan if you eat or use animal products. PERIOD. THOSE THINGS I LISTED ARE NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE AND PRACTICABLE TO AVOID. THEY ARE EXAMPLES OF WHAT PEOPLE USE THAT MAKE THEM NOT VEGAN. VEGANISM IS A DIFFERENT DEFINITION. USING ANIMAL PRODUCTS THAT ARE POSSIBLE AND PRACTICABLE TO AVOID MEANS YOU DON'T PRACTICE VEGANISM. ANIMAL PRODUCTS IN SMART PHONES, COMPUTERS, ROUTERS, AND SERVERS ARE POSSIBLE AND PRACTICABLE TO AVOID FOR THE PURPOSE OF REPLYING TO STRANGERS. It's like you're stupid on purpose. Every time you reply I know it's going to be some stupid babble conflating two different definitions to purposely misunderstand what I typed. Try again.
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  771.  @travisswartz3587  "if you are a vegan," No one is. "which tries to avoid animal products as much as possible." "possible and practicable" you liar. You're just going in circles. Scroll up and read again.
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  772.  @travisswartz3587  You're going around in circles. I am simply explaining facts. All those things I listed contain animal products. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You're not vegan if you eat or use animal products. PERIOD. Eating or using animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid means you're not practicing veganism. That only includes the things listed "IF" they are possible and practicable to avoid. Not all of them are. Using any of them to make comments on youtube is possible and practicable to avoid. PERIOD. Maybe you will get it the 10th time. Maybe ask a parent for help. Anything else of substance or just more constant disingenuous circular inane questions?
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  773.  @travisswartz3587  "you said vegans dont even exist, now you're saying you cant be one if you respond on Youtube." You're lying again. You're still conflating the definitions. All those things I listed contain animal products. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You're not vegan if you eat or use animal products. PERIOD. Eating or using animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid means you're not practicing veganism. That only includes the things listed "IF" they are possible and practicable to avoid. Not all of them are. Using any of them to make comments on youtube is possible and practicable to avoid. PERIOD.
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  774.  @travisswartz3587  "I won't respond any longer but you're just not making sense." You're reading comprehension is the problem "Unfortunately you won't listen to me" Because you lie. If you stopped lying and making things up I would have. "so show somebody else this and ask them if you are making a good point, I promise you aren't." I have been doing this for years, Earthling Ed even said I made a good point and now he points out that he isn't really vegan. Anything else? Oh right you're done because I won't appease you with your lies.
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  775.  @travisswartz3587  "I won't respond any longer" I expected you to lie again. "you ignored multiple things I've said" Because you're not making sense. "and simply stated the same the same definition over and over again in almost every reply." Because you were using the same circular babble over and over. "These aren't good debate tactics." Circular arguments aren't good at all. Stop using them. "I still don't understand what you think is practicable and possible to avoid" Replying to me on youtube is possible and practicable to avoid as I have stated 10+ times. "I dont understand why you think being a vegan and practicing veganism is drastically different." Already explained multiple times. Yay another circle. You're still conflating the definitions. All those things I listed contain animal products. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You're not vegan if you eat or use animal products. PERIOD. Eating or using animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid means you're not practicing veganism. That only includes the things listed "IF" they are possible and practicable to avoid. Not all of them are. Using any of them to make comments on youtube is possible and practicable to avoid. PERIOD. "You're not explaining your argument well." You're reading comprehension is the problem. Ask a parent for help. Now reply again despite claiming you're done....liar.
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  776.  @travisswartz3587  "I won't respond any longer" And the lies never end. "Ok so which products are possible to avoid, just the phones?" I already covered this. You're just proving me right about your poor reading comprehension. When making a comment you're using a device (which is made with and contains animal products), routers (which are made with and contain animal products), and servers (which are made with and contain animal products) that would have never been used if there was never a reply. Seriously ask a parent for help. You're just asking more of the same that has already been addressed.
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  777. ​ @travisswartz3587  You replied again liar. You're being contrarian just to argue and you're now a proven liar. I never said anything like that. You're still conflating two different words. Anything else?
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  778.  @travisswartz3587  "Yes Janie I replied again, can we move past that?" Just admit that you're a liar....which you are. "You said somethings cannot be avoided but that this can be" The word vegan (noun) covers any and everything made with or containing animal products. If you eat or use animal products you're not vegan. Read this until you understand. Seriously. I know you just read it, so now read it again. Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle of avoiding animal products when possible and practicable. Regardless of whether something is possible or practicable to avoid, if it contains animal products, you're not vegan. Read this again as well. It is possible to stop replying to me on youtube which uses personal devices, routers, and servers across the country/world. Watching a movie is possible and practicable to avoid. Traveling to a restaurant is possible and practicable to avoid. Get this in your head. If you use products made with animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid you're not practicing veganism. Whether or not you're attempting to practice veganism, if you eat or use animal products you're not vegan. I explained it several different ways this time. Maybe you will understand one of them. I doubt it. Anything else.
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  779.  @travisswartz3587  More ad hominems. Yay. As expected you can't refute me, you continue to lie, and now you're name calling as well. Thanks again for the win.
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  780.  @travisswartz3587  Still can't refute me? Just going to keep babbling? I have already explained all of this to you and you personally choose to continue conflating two different words and definitions. I will try to make it simple because apparently that is all you can handle. Vegan and veganism are different words with different definitions made by the vegan society. You're not vegan if you eat or use animal products. You don't practice veganism if you eat or use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid. Failure or success at practicing veganism does not make you vegan. If you think any of this is wrong, you're free to cite the source from the vegan society proving me wrong. As you haven't cited a single source (nor is one to be found) you're free to continue lying and making things up which is rude. "This is the first time I've insulted you," Telling someone they are wrong when they are only using facts while you continually cite opinions and fan fiction is an insult. You have been insulting me this entire time. Okay...I win.
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  781.  @michaellarue8645  Three comments? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? So you can't refute me and resort to insults and babble just like the last person? Anything else?
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  782.  @leahflower9924  Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, servers, asphalt, refrigerators, microwaves, televisions, etc. are all made with and contain fat, gelatin, and bones. None of the people claiming to be vegan are actually vegan. They are just hypocrites playing pretend because they chose a fad they thought gave them virtue.
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  783.  @therealchefboyardee  You use animal products. You're not vegan.
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  784.  @therealchefboyardee  "I never once said in my text that i used animal products during my 2 years being vegan." Okay? You didn't have to say it. You did in fact use animal products the whole time you claimed to be vegan. "i started eating animal products a couple weeks ago, so yeah im not vegan anymore." You never were. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You "USE" animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, servers, asphalt roads, vehicles, televisions, refrigerators, microwaves, etc are all made with and contain animal products. You were never vegan. Just another uneducated ignorant person lying about who he is for attention. Anything else?
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  785.  @therealchefboyardee  So I am crazy for pointing out facts? You were literally a liar but I am the crazy one for pointing it out? Hilarious. Thanks for the win.
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  786.  @therealchefboyardee  "you are clearly crazy." And more name calling. "No one cares if im vegan or not." When did I say someone did? "At the end of the day, i don't give a ** about any of your nonsense." Four replies proves otherwise. "If someone uses a phone, hes not vegan." If someone eats or uses animal products. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. "Go comment elsewhere thinking anyone cares." Four comments proves you do care. If you didn't care you wouldn't have replied at all.
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  787.  @therealchefboyardee  You may want to look inward if you're looking for crazy. I merely used a few facts. You're replying a lot for someone that claims they don't care. I predict another inane comment from you.
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  788.  @therealchefboyardee  As predicted you replied with another inane comment. Try again. I predict another inane comment.
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  789.  @therealchefboyardee  Says the person that continues to spam me with babble after claiming they didn't care. I predict another inane reply.
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  790.  @therealchefboyardee  No. I use animal products. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Figured someone that lied about being vegan would know that.
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  791.  @therealchefboyardee  Ever stop to think that you could be on any diet you like and reduce as much harm as you want without lying about being vegan? It never ceases to amaze that you virtue signaling liars would rather be called out for lying than just live your lives. If reducing harming to animals is such a profound cause then why do all of the people claiming to be vegan lie about it so blatantly?
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  792.  @therealchefboyardee  No. Do you tell everyone that you don't care while spamming replies?
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  793.  @therealchefboyardee  Still can't answer the question? Thanks for the win.
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  794.  @therealchefboyardee  I haven't talked at all. I have typed a bit. Why do you lie? Ever stop to think that you could be on any diet you like and reduce as much harm as you want without lying about being vegan? Do you tell everyone that you don't care while spamming replies?
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  795.  @michaela5932  Thought you were done replying to me. Guess you couldn't stop lying. You must have a lot of anger in you to spam me after saying you were done.
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  796.  @79464f  It took you 10 months to come up with that?
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  797.  @79464f  And nothing to refute me... Odd how quickly you guys lob insults while being unable to prove me wrong.
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  798.  @79464f  Again... nothing to refute me. I accept your concession.
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  799.  @79464f  Again... nothing to refute me. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  800.  @zs8796  Says the person who waited months to come up with that nonsense reply.
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  801. Should have asked him about "millionaires and billionaires" and how he changed his rhetoric after he became a millionaire.
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  802. Just animal tested lab supplements.
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  803.  @politrickz  Yes....that is one place you can buy animal tested supplements.
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  804.  @politrickz  To get a balanced diet without eating animal products you need lab supplements.
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  805.  @politrickz  I am just as much a nutritionist as you are a vegan.
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  806. @E DAWG "What is the definition of veganism according to you" This is the official definition of "veganism" according to the creators of "veganism." "Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." I never called anyone a veganism. Himi Grace never claimed to be a veganism. I said he wasn't vegan. And according to the definition of "vegan" he isn't. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Himi Grace uses animal products as evidenced by the comment section. In order to leave a comment you need to use several electronics. Electronics are made with animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with animal products. It never ceases to amaze me the number of people who don't know the difference between veganism (a doctrine about a lifestyle which he ignores in favor of convenience and fun) and the word vegan (a person who does not eat or use animal products).
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  807. @E DAWG "The other person did not say anything about using animal products." He didn't have to. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with animal products. Simply making a comment on youtube proves people use animal products. "You made a comment like that, but he rejected it." People often reject facts when it puts in to question their hopes and dreams. "So how did you come to that conclusion?" You should have read the whole comment.
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  808. Double negative. I guess you will take advice from jRE.
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  809. You're not vegan.
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  810.  @shadejustcant  Vegan (noun) - a person that does not eat or use animal products. Just by commenting with your electronic device (made with animal products) on the internet (made with animal products) on youtube servers (made with animal products) you prove you're not vegan. You prove you're a liar. Congrats on proving yourself a liar I guess.
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  811. The number of people who quit is at 85% over 5 years. 85% = almost all
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  812. He literally uses animal products just like everyone else. I guess lying is his best offensive argument strategy.
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  813. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while falsely claiming you don't eat or use animal products?
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  814. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? I predict you won't answer this simple fact based question.
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  815.  Le Abdollen  They are scientifically classified as omnivores because they eat a large number of animals. Stop making things up.
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  816. Nothing wrong with mocking virtue signaling hypocrites and liars. More people should do things like this.
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  817. ​ @Ghazithasoulja  Nothing wrong with mocking virtue signaling hypocrites and liars. More people should do things like this.
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  818.  @Ghazithasoulja  I also learned how to spell.
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  819.  @chimp09  Name one person that I can look up who doesn't eat or use animal products. If you can't then you admit there isn't any.
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  820. It's really funny too when you meet a really stubborn person claiming to be vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers contain animal products from cows and pigs. Just point out their hypocrisy and watch them seethe.
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  821. Humans can survive on plant based and meat based diets proving without a doubt they are omnivores. It sounds like you're heavily biased. If you actually cared you would be vegan.
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  822. Joe's show is an entertainment podcast, it is not a news station. If you want facts that may or may not exist go look them up.
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  823. "Everyone should be a vegan." Then go be vegan instead of telling others to do what you're unwilling to do.
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  824. You're not vegan. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. You're just another virtue signaling liar.
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  825.  @amizan8653  Looks like you found another liar to bond with.
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  826.  @amizan8653  Now you're name calling because you can't refute me. You use animal products. You're just a liar and a hypocrite.
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  827. Okay? Then try it. Don't eat or use any animal products from slaughtered animals.
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  828.  @amizan8653  "I already doing that." Read that slowly and try again. "I'm a vegan." You use animal products intentionally and needlessly so you're not vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. "I think everyone should be vegan just for the ethical reason alone." Then do it instead of being a hypocrite and liar that claims to do it while not doing it. "And even without the ethical reason, the environmental reason alone is also enough to make the switch." Sigh...more babble... You're using animal products. You're a liar and hypocrite. "I really don't see a valid excuse to eat animal products." Then don't eat them. You don't have to lie about being vegan while not eating animal products. "Mouth pleasure isn't a valid excuse." Yet you think that replying to strangers on the internet and making inane comments on youtube is a valid excuse to use animal products? You people just leap for the chance to virtue signal your hypocrisy and lies.
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  829.  @amizan8653  Ah yes. You can't refute me so you just jump straight to name calling. You used animal products just to reply to me. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and/or contain animal products. You're a liar and a hypocrite. Thanks for the win. Another liar proven wrong and shown to be a salty loser.
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  830.  @amizan8653  "If you don't eat meat, dairy, eggs, or honey, you're a vegan. " You're conflating the noun with the adjective. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You use animal products. The glass, processor, plastic, battery are all made with fat, gelatin, and/or bones. You're just a liar and a proven hypocrite. Thanks for the easy win. Learn what a refutation is and learn some facts.
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  831.  @amizan8653  "would not eating animal products greatly reduce the amount of animal suffering on factory farms and also be much better for the environment?" What does that have to do with what I factually stated? If you eat or use animal products you're not vegan. You use animal products and you do it intentionally and needlessly without any problem just to name call people on the internet. No need to deflect and go off topic. Try again. Stick to the topic instead of deflecting.
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  832.  @amizan8653  "stick to the topic?" Read my first reply. "and so we're killing and torturing them for mouth pleasure and nothing else" Blatant lie. Tallow, gelatin, and bone manufacturers exist that don't even keep or sell the meat. They are industries that provide for the glass, plastic, cpu processor, battery, etc industries. So you're making things up to suit your narrative. You're a liar. So again....practice what you preach before you tell others to do it. You use animal products. You're not vegan.
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  833.  @amizan8653  Two replies to my single comment... Triggered? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? "yeah yeah yeah just keep focusing on character attacks since your arguments are trash and you can't refute what I said" You still haven't refuted my original comment and you lied about not using animal products. You started the name calling. Scroll up and read your own comments. "it's so clear and obvious that we shouldn't be killing animals for food, and that's what the vast majority of them after killed for." Subjective bias. If you truly believed that you wouldn't be using animal products. "There's nothing you can say to refute that." But I did. Humans have been killing animals for food since the dawn of human existence. Entitled prats shouldn't be using animal products when they claim to be vegan, yet here you are doing it intentionally and needlessly anyway.
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  834.  @amizan8653  No. I don't advocate against it either. I just point out liars and hypocrites like yourself. You literally lied about being vegan. You literally practice hypocrisy.
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  835.  @amizan8653  "You look for the tiniest little technicality you can to get some strange pleasure calling people out over it." You think your blatant and intentional lies and hypocrisy are tiny technicalities? "I've significantly reduced the horrific impact I've had on those poor animals that are tortured and killed in factory farms" Okay? Want a gold star sticker? Why do you lie about being vegan and using animal products while using animal products? "All I had to do was not eat meat, milk and eggs." And not lie about being vegan. Guess that part was too hard for you. "And I don't care at all if you call me a hypocrite because smart phone screens contain traces of animal products" That's not why I called you a hypocrite. The screens, plastic, battery, processors in the phone and the routers and servers you need to use just to make a comment needlessly. You could have avoided those but chose to do it anyway. "when I'm preventing the deaths of many animals a year just by eating a vegan diet." Completely untrue. More animals die in crop harvesting than meat production. More crops are used for human consumption. "Enjoy getting off calling people who try to be better hypocrites simply by looking at tiny little technicalities." Ever think of just not lying and being a hypocrite? Rather than whine at me for pointing out facts you don't like you could have just practiced what you preach and avoid using animal products needlessly. I guess actually doing what you say you're doing is too hard. It's funny that you think someone pointing out facts you don't like is "pathetic" and you also think lying to people and practicing blatant hypocrisy is a worthy cause. Thanks for the laughs.
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  836.  @amizan8653  "This is by far THE stupidest thing you've said." You should probably delete this comment unless you genuinely believe animals use flax, hemp, tobacco, ethanol corn, barley, soy based diesel, ethanol wheat, etc. All these things are consumed by humans. Consumption doesn't always mean eat. consumption - the using up of a resource. I said crops. Not feed crops. "There's no point arguing with you." Yet you continue to argue with more lies and name calling. "I can tell you're a troll." I can tell you're not educated on the subject and facts make you mad and drive you to start name calling. You claim to be done...lets see if you lie about that too. I win.
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  837.  @amizan8653  Still can't refute me? I figured as much. You just start name calling when it's proven that you're a liar and a hypocrite then delete comments when they go against your narrative.
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  838.  @saucy3639  Supplements and fortified food aren't usually plant based. Try plant based only without the supplements and fortified food. Once your body's reserves are gone, your body will start breaking down.
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  839. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it?
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  840. Because humans are omnivores meant to eat mostly plants with few animal products. How come human stomach acid is more powerful than a cow? How come humans can consistently get nutrients from both plants and animals? People are confusing a good diet with a gluttony diet.
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  841.  @chicago_rocker23  Good to see you have nothing to refute me. I accept your concession.
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  842.  @chicago_rocker23  Still waiting on a refutation... I guess you can't manage one since all you have said is nonsense and denial.
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  843. Show me evidence of god. Just have him/her/it perform a miracle or two. Tell him/her/it to add another moon to Earth for a few days. That should do it.
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  844.  @jabroni_bk8834  He isn't attacking anyone for being vegan. You're not vegan. You're just pretending to be vegan for virtue signaling purposes. Gorillas are omnivores.
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  845.  @jabroni_bk8834  Your dismissal is hilarious. You can't refute me so you start making excuses on a social media site on why I can't respond to you. You're not vegan. You never were vegan. Just facts. No need to virtue signal and lie.
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  846.  @jabroni_bk8834  You're still not vegan. You're a virtue signaling hypocrite. I win.
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  847. Except James Wilks both eats and uses animal products. He is just another fraud pretending to be plant based for money.
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  848.  @mckgarth  Okay?
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  849. The three actual types. 1. The liar that wants other people to see their virtue. 2. The ignorant person that doesn't know they really aren't vegan. 3. The fascist that wants to push their beliefs on others while being a hypocrite.
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  850.  @ElectronicSin  "Are you talking about vegans or omnis?" People that claim to be vegan obviously. "I'm confused." Likely your resting state. Anyone trying to push being vegan on another person is a liar and a hypocrite.
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  851. You're not vegan. No need to lie.
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  852.  @dowhatevertfyouwannado1387  Thanks for admitting you use animal products needlessly for entertainment which means you were dishonest. I accept your concession.
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  853.  @dowhatevertfyouwannado1387  You still use them. You were dishonest again. No surprise there. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  854.  @robotec0007  "so you report me for what?" For telling me to give you my address so you can commit home invasion and animal abuse. "killing an animal is perfectly fine and you shouldn't care less." Do you just make things up for fun?
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  855. You're* Why are you so mad Joe insults people that lie about being vegan? They are all liars and hypocrites and you're mad that someone is pointing that out? Who hurt you?
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  856. Animal prints? Lol what? On a proper omnivore diet, people are more healthy than anyone on plant only based or meat only based. Can you name someone that doesn't eat any animal products, fortified foods, or use supplements?
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  857. Russell literally uses animal products daily which is directly contradictory. You can make an argument without making things up...try it.
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  858. You use animal products needlessly for entertainment. You're not vegan.
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  859. Why would he want a proven liar that cons people for likes, subs, and donations?
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  860. Why do you use animal products while claiming you want to be vegan for life? That doesn't make sense.
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  861.  @jlowe8614  "that has absolutely not been my experience with people I know who are vegan." Everyone you know uses animal products. They aren't vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, servers, asphalt, motor vehicles, refrigerators, microwaves, televisions, drywall, etc. are all made with and/or contain animal products. So like I said. The people who claim to practice veganism derive more worth from the claim than actual practice.
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  862. You want a guy to fight another guy 10 years younger to prove what? That he is 10 years younger? How many extra chromosomes do you have?
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  863.  @philedwards5110  What do these things have to do with anything? None of the people you have named are vegan.
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  864. You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment. You're not vegan. People like you contribute to why people claiming to be vegan look bad.
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  865.  @sharshal465  Smart phones, computers, and servers are made with animal products. Fat, gelatin, and bones are used in the production of the electronics you used to make that comment. Thanks for proving me right.
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  866.  @sharshal465  So you resort to name calling when proven wrong? I expected as much. You use animal products while claiming it is against your religion. Thanks for proving me right.
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  867. "Performance = omnivore , vegan = live longer" This has never been proven by anyone. Name one "vegan" who has lived longer.... Hell, just name one "vegan" at all.
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  868. You literally use animal products from the same animals that normal people eat. Congrats on outing yourself as someone who doesn't practice what they preach.
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  869. None of them are vegan. Everyone uses animal products in the modern world. You, me, everyone. There are better ways to make a change than lying about what you are.
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  870.  @Kanzu999  "Then you misunderstand what a vegan is." Then you misunderstand what a vegan is. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You use animal products. You're not vegan. "A vegan is someone who's trying to do the least amount of harm as possible. " And here is proof of your misunderstanding. You're conflating the word vegan (noun) with the veganism doctrine. Vegan (noun) is a word that describes a person. Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle of avoiding animal products when possible and practicable. It is possible and practicable not to use routers and servers made with animal products to make inane replies on youtube. "I haven't been vegan for more than 3 months right now," You have never been vegan. "but I also haven't bought animal products besides food either," And yet here you are using animal products needlessly just to make comments. "and I will keep on trying to be aware of what I buy." While justifying what you use for convenience and entertainment. Anything else?
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  871.  @Kanzu999  It would mean you're not a liar if that were the case.
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  872.  @Kanzu999  "So what word would you use to describe my position?" Liar that pretends to be vegan. "If I am trying my best to not buy animal products?" Neither of the definitions mention buying them. "If you want to say that someone can't be vegan if they happen to buy an animal product once every month" I never said that. I am going by the definition instead of placing additional words in a definition. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Notice it says nothing about "buy, buying, purchase, etc..." "What do you think?" I think people are just people. A small percentage of people are indoctrinated by grifters on youtube like Vegan Gains, Earthling Ed, and Joey Carbstrong to believe the lies they tell them. No need to lie about what you are to reduce harm. Simply reduce harm if that is what you want to do. You don't need to lie about your identity while doing it.
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  873.  @Kanzu999  "Lol where is the lying?" I will quote you. "Okay I'm vegan" "It's you who's trying to define my position and therefore calling me a liar." Because you lied. That is after all what a liar is. "The ones who call themselves vegan don't use the definition you do." Not my problem if people want to use a definition that isn't the official definition. "It's stupid to imagine that you have to go by such an iron definition, where you're not vegan if you happen to use an animal product, even if you're not doing so 99.9% of the time." 99.9% is an extreme made up statistic. Every time you reply you are using animal products intentionally and needlessly. If you use animal products so blatantly just to reply to a stranger then it is highly likely you use them for other things. You probably have a refrigerator that is made with animal products currently running 100% of the time in your home for example. "As far as I can see, you just want to provoke people who call themselves vegan." I just like pointing out liars and hypocrites. If you want to be vegan then be vegan. I am all for people not lying anymore. "It's incredibly childish and unhelpful to call someone a liar in a conversation before you even know them and before you even know what they mean by the words they use." It's incredibly childish and unhelpful to lie about being vegan when you use animal products intentionally and needlessly every day. " It's important to establish how we define the words we use in a serious conversation." Seems more like a "you" problem. Maybe do more research so you're not ignorant of the official words. "So really you're not worth my time." Yet here you are replying again. Again, you don't have to lie about being vegan to reduce harm. Let that sink in. Maybe you could have a parent read it slowly to you.
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  874. There were no "vegans" in this video.
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  875. "Millions of people around the world are vegan." Name one. " Olympic athletes, bodybuilders, even some NFL players are vegan." Name one that I can easily look up. You're confusing a plant based diet for being vegan.
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  876. A proper diet of any kind is better than gluttony. Conflating the two proves nothing.
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  877.  @jameslester6785  "The standard American diet is not working, just look around." A proper diet is better than gluttony.
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  878. "And Gorillas are mostly herbivores and look at their massive canines." Mostly herbivore = omnivore. They still eat animals.
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  879.  @MarcusAnthonyCornwallWilliams  "Uh no- Gorillas do not eat animals." Insects are animals dippy. "They do eat insects." Yep...and insects are animals. "But they do not eat any meat." And? omnivore - an animal or person that eats food of both plant and animal origin. "Unless you are asking a question, inform yourself before you speak please." Practice what you preach. You should have asked if insects are part of the animal kingdom before you made so many dumb comments. "Humans die more from diseases caused by eating animals than anything else." The healthiest diet on the planet currently is an omnivorous diet. You're confusing gluttony with proper diet. "That is evidence demonstrating its not best for our natural diet." That is anecdotal evidence at best. "Teeth shape doesnt even come close to that kind of evidence." I never said it did. Anteaters are omnivores as well. Try again.
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  880.  @MarcusAnthonyCornwallWilliams  "Okay- insects are apart of the animal kingdom." Thanks for agreeing that Gorillas are omnivores. "Also my comment about not speaking and asking was out of line, i apologize, no need to start name calling." I was stating a fact. You can't be very smart if you didn't know insects are animals. "But was that what you meant when you said that gorillas do eat animals? That they strictly only ate insect animals?" Yes. Insects are animals and according to the definition of omnivore they are omnivores. "When it comes to a healthy diet- all the best evidence is showing that plant based is the healthiest.. " Currently the healthiest scientifically backed diet is the Mediterranean diet. No idea why you keep babbling about teeth. Teeth are irrelevant. Try again.
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  881.  @MarcusAnthonyCornwallWilliams  Ahh yes. You're proven wrong so now it is time for you to make excuses for leaving. Typical. Gorillas are omnivores. Insects are animals. Humans are omnivores. Teeth are an evolutionary trait that don't always have anything to do with what something eats. Baleen whales are 100% carnivores and don't have any teeth.
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  882. So you want to use an appeal to emotions to equate eating food with human slavery? LOL
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  883.  @LoowheezeBreeze  "I'd argue animal agriculture is worse than human slavery..." Okay...then why do you use animal products needlessly if you're against it?
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  884.  @LoowheezeBreeze  I used facts. You literally use animal products needlessly and you act like you're against it. I simply asked why. It's okay. You don't have to answer. Your evasion shows more than whatever lie you would come up with. I accept your concession.
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  885.  @LoowheezeBreeze  Look at you asking questions while evading mine. I will show you how to answer a question directly and honestly. "Which animal products would that be?" You use fat, gelatin, and bones. Now answer my question instead of evading and asking more questions. Why do you use animal products needlessly if you're against it?
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  886.  @LoowheezeBreeze  And another question as I expected. You're just evading the question. Thanks for proving you're unable to answer a simple question because it outs you as a hypocrite. I accept your concession.
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  887.  @LoowheezeBreeze  "Attack the messenger, ignore the message..." I addressed the message in my first comment. You're using a logically fallacious argument to appeal to emotions. You then claimed livestock slaughter is worse than human slavery so I simply asked why you use animal products needlessly and you're frozen in your own hypocrisy. Again, thanks for your concession since you continue to evade the simple question.
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  888.  @LoowheezeBreeze  Glad you admit to being a hypocrite.
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  889.  @LoowheezeBreeze  Still nothing to refute my original comment?
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  890. If they actually felt that way they wouldn't be such hypocrites about it. I mean, why is it okay for them to use animal products from the same animals that normal people eat while extorting businesses?
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  891.  @jacobbridges5143  Their not vegan. You're lying or ignorant. Smart phones, computers, televisions, routers, servers, refrigerators, microwaves, vehicles, carpet, drywall, etc. are all made with and/or contain fat, gelatin, and/or bones. Everyone currently living in the modern world uses animal products.
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  892.  @jacobbridges5143  Two replies? Triggered? Unable to keep your thoughts together? "lying about what?" They claim they're vegan. They are not. "The definition of being vegan is not using animal products." So you agree that their not vegan. Why reply multiple times if you agree with me? "I don’t think this is so much a me problem as it is a reading comprehension problem on your part" Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. They use animal products so they aren't vegan. This isn't hard to understand. Maybe you should pick up some of that reading comprehension you're babbling about.
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  893.  @jacobbridges5143  And as expected you can't refute me. Thanks for the easy win.
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  894. No one really practices veganism. It's too hard, inconvenient, and not much fun.
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  895.  @michaela5932  If you eat or use animal products you're not vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Caring about animals isn't part of the definition.
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  896.  @michaela5932  Still stalking me eh? Strange since you claimed you were done replying to me. I guess you can't stop lying.
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  897.  @michaela5932  More name calling while lying about being done? Cool story. Anything else?
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  898.  @michaela5932  Still replying after claiming you were done? I figured you would. You just can't stop lying.
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  899.  @maxrobespierre9176  Fruitarian is just another word for omnivore with a fruit caveat. Great apes to this day eat animals.
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  900.  @maxrobespierre9176  You wrote a short story just to say I am right. They are omnivores.
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  901.  @maxrobespierre9176  What does what I may or may not eat have to do with what apes do in fact eat? They actively hunt small game and eat it. There are plenty of videos showing Gorillas eating insects and Chimps eating small pigs and such. They are omnivores.
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  902.  @maxrobespierre9176  "frugivores" Which is just another way of saying omnivore with a fruit caveat.
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  903.  @maxrobespierre9176  "Only chimpanzees and bonobos have been witnessed hunting" Gorillas actively hunt for animals. No need to lie. "No, its a frugivore with an omnivore caveat." Wrong again. They are an omnivore first and foremost. Frugivore is a sub classification. Try again. Try to keep the fan fiction to a minimum.
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  904.  @maxrobespierre9176  Can't post links. Of course you want citations in a channel where links aren't possible. Lets see your citations for the lies you told.
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  905.  @maxrobespierre9176  "Check my earlier replies for some." I couldn't in the past. The post gets censored. Possibly depends on who is running the channel. Anyway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnivore "The variety of different animals that are classified as omnivores can be placed into further sub-categories" Frugivore and insectivore are sub-categories. https://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/what-do-gorillas-eat-and-other-gorilla-facts#:~:text=Gorillas%20stick%20to%20a%20mainly,nests%20to%20eat%20the%20larvae. "Western lowland gorillas, however, also have an appetite for termites and ants, and break open termite nests to eat the larvae." Termites, ants, and larva are animals. And fittingly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btkUWwddZgQ&ab_channel=Mediocre
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  906.  @maxrobespierre9176  "Now who’s the liar?" Still you. There is a difference between a lie and simply not knowing. I tried posting links in another channel and the comment was censored. "The post is there." Yep, with citations that you can't refute. "I checked on it yesterday and today." Without a single refutation. So I guess you admit to lying. "So long!" Fine by me. I win.
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  907.  @maxrobespierre9176  "The great apes are classed as frugivores." Which is an omnivore like I said and cited. I win.
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  908.  @amizan8653  Still stalking me and lying to feel better about yourself eh?
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  909. Look up "persistence hunting" and get back to us.
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  910.  @tomreid2686  So you never heard of rocks or sticks? Cool story.
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  911.  @tomreid2686  What does it matter if it is larger or smaller? They literally eat animals raw and it's part of their diet. They literally hunt and eat meat. They catch and eat little pigs. Search "jane goodall chimp diet" and you can see for yourself.
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  912.  @amizan8653  So now you're stalking me and name calling because I proved you're a liar and a hypocrite. You make my win so much sweeter.
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  913. You're name calling a guy that just babbles for fun. Why do you use animal products needlessly while acting like you're against it?
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  914. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it?
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  915. 3 months of silence. Just as good as an admission that you're dishonest as far as I am concerned.
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  916. No point in letting a hypocrite propagandize.
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  917. With enough supplements and cheating you can get all of the nutrients on a plant based diet. Can you name a single "vegan" athlete that I can look up? If you can't then you automatically admit you made up the majority of your nonsense.
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  918.  @8rk  "You just eat the animal who eats the plants." Have proof of this? Of course not. Thanks for proving yourself to be dishonest. Everyone you named uses animal products. Thanks for admitting you made up the majority of your nonsense.
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  919.  @8rk  Still can't name a single one? I accept your concession.
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  920.  @8rk  Still looking for a single "vegan" athlete? That would be a athlete who doesn't eat or "USE" animal products. Keep trying I guess. Until then, I accept your ongoing concession.
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  921.  @8rk  So you confused the adjective (diet) with the noun (person). You could have just admitted that. Thanks for proving me right.
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  922.  @8rk  Eery nutrition? LOL? Still can't name a single athlete who is "vegan"?
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  923. No they aren't. vergertarian is not a word.
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  924.  @jiimmyyy  Yes you are very cringe. Glad you admit that.
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  925.  @mushshrap6471  To claim you're something that doesn't exist is delusion.
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  926. Yes. Humans were eating animals long before cooked meat or hunting red meat was an option.
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  927. Neither of them are vegan.
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  928. Do you have a problem with them extorting him and threatening his business when there are other businesses close by that use factory farmed meat? Just more virtue signaling.
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  929. We are omnivores that can survive on a plant based diet with animal tested lab supplements. People like you are funny though. You are happy to use animal products while virtue signaling about them.
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  930. The hate doesn't come from people hating on the diet. It comes from people virtue signaling. Take you for instance. You don't have a problem using animal products.
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  931. Most plants are processed in some way before we eat them. Are you saying we are meant to eat air?
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  932.  @TheTERMlNAT0R  You do realize humans were eating animals long before cooked meat came along right? Do you think Gorillas cook the animals they eat?
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  933.  @TheTERMlNAT0R  So you didn't know insects are animals? Just like primates now humans ate insects long before cooked meat became an option. Go survive on some grubs and tell me your body isn't getting energy from them. Please quote me where I claimed something about eating cows before the ability to cook meat. Come back in a few months when you figure out there are more animals in the animal kingdom than just cows.
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  934.  @Freakyjohnsson1  And yet you use products made with the same dead animals just to babble at people on youtube. Doesn't that make you hypocritical?
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  935.  @amizan8653  You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat for entertainment pleasure. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment? I know you won't answer this directly and honestly, but I want others to see you're just a hypocrite. I predict you will ignore the question, go into denial, ask me which animal products (proving you don't do your own research, and/or you will justify your needless use of animal products with a doctrine.
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  936. You currently use the exploitation of animals for convenience and entertainment.
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  937.  @amizan8653  " For that reason alone, I'm vegan." You're just a liar playing pretend. You're not vegan. You use animal products.
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  938.  @amizan8653  Now you're name calling because you can't refute me. You use animal products. You're just a liar and a hypocrite.
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  939. I would rather be known for practicing what I preach. James literally eats and uses animal products while pretending to be against it.
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  940.  @misterx3188  Look up how he eats honey from his brothers hive and the fact he is on the internet which is made with animal products. Thanks for agreeing that he has no credibility since you can't refute me.
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  941.  @misterx3188  I didn't comment about deterioration. Nice deflection attempt. I would guess it's the years of training and omnivorous diet before he decided to start monetizing religion. Thanks again for agreeing he EATS and USES animal products which removes his credibility.
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  942.  @misterx3188  I don't know what a "Gotha" moment is. Must mean you admit you lost. Thanks for admitting again he has no credibility.
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  943.  @tinyspeaker  Glad you agree with me that he has no credibility.
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  944. For the animals? You have no problem using products made with bits of animals.
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  945. There is no proof of that. The study it is based on includes medications and daily exercise. No need to make thing up.
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  946.  @Sing4TheMoments  Burden of proof is on you. You're the one that made the false claim. "Whole food Plant based diet is the only proven diet to reverse heart disease, it’s incredible."
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  947.  @Sing4TheMoments  "I knew you wouldn’t read any of the studies :)" I knew you wouldn't link a study with definitive proof.
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  948.  @Sing4TheMoments  "I’m posting multiple studies so you can read them" You posted 1. "but you report it as spam and get my comment deleted." Blatant lie. I haven't reported a single comment as spam. Prove your accusation. I guess when you don't have facts, you lie. "Instead of being so ignorant maybe actually read them so we can have a healthy discussion" That one study doesn't provide proof of a diet reversing heart disease. "I could care less but spouting opinions as facts online as you do is very dangerous when it comes to health advice." You could care less? You're the one making claims while posting a single ncbi government study that doesn't even prove your claim. Anything else?
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  949.  @AzureVoltic  "Technically omnivores, but when I think of other primates like apes, I don't think of them as meat eaters." So you know humans are omnivores. Just like Gorillas are omnivores. (They eat insects/animals) "Because we're not omnivores." But you said we are "Technically omnivores" in your other sentence. Are you contradicting yourself and lying for a reason?
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  950.  @AzureVoltic  You typed out a short story just to verify that I am right. Thanks. Humans are omnivores. Primates are omnivores. No further classification needed.
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  951.  @AzureVoltic  "You are completely missing the point and just hearing what you want to here." Here? Where do you think "here" is? "If the only thing you got out of what I said is "Humans are omnivores", then you didn't read it." "Primates are technically omnivores" - you "Technically omnivores" - you "Because we're not omnivores." - also you You're possibly suffering from an extra chromosome. I am just pointing out your blatant lies and contradictions. I don't care about the "reduce" argument because not even the people claiming to be vegan actually do it. Do you "here" me? 😂🤣
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  952.  @AzureVoltic  "Still oblivious to the point" I am glad you admit that you're still oblivious to MY point. Humans are technically, literally, and factually omnivores. Period. End of. That's the whole point. All of your babble and short stories are irrelevant. Humans are omnivores.
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  953. You're appealing to emotions. The word "someone" is uniquely human. Livestock aren't human. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? I know you won't answer this simple fact based question honestly and factually. I can laugh as you try though.
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  954.  @HonestTalksWithLucas  Ah...I get it. Pure denial. "Someone" is uniquely human. Period. Irrefutable. "I don’t use animal products." Remember you typed that. Animal based stearic acid (livestock tallow) and animal based activated carbon (livestock bones) are the industry standard in processor manufacturing. How did you reply without using something with a processor? Smoke signals? I accept your concession since you chose dishonesty over honesty and being factual.
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  955.  @HonestTalksWithLucas  Who said I eat meat? I guess all you have is denial and false accusations. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  956.  @HonestTalksWithLucas  You evaded my simple fact based question again as I predicted. Livestock are not "someone" because that word is uniquely human. Saying otherwise is just an appeal to emotions. They life? What? I accept your ongoing concession since you evaded the question I asked you first.
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  957.  @HonestTalksWithLucas  You evaded my simple fact based question again as I predicted. Literally the definition. someone (pronoun) - an unknown or unspecified person; some person. Livestock are not human. I will accept this as your permanent concession since you continue to evade the simple fact based question that I asked you first.
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  958.  @HonestTalksWithLucas  You evaded the simple fact based question again. You answer your own question. You said I did and you admitted it when you claimed it was your assumption. Because other? That doesn't make sense. So name calling, denial, false accusations, and nonsense are your only arguments... Thanks for the win and I accept your final concession.
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  959.  @HonestTalksWithLucas  Welcome back. Add dishonesty to the list. You still haven't answered the fact based question. Reduced to name calling now as well. Thanks for the win and I accept your ongoing final concession.
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  960.  @HonestTalksWithLucas  "I’m also not gonna waste my time on you anymore." Welcome back again. You and honesty don't have much of a relationship eh... You evaded the simple fact based question again as I predicted you would. Thanks for the win and your ongoing final concession.
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  961. toady - a person who behaves obsequiously to someone important. He literally uses animal products for entertainment. He is just a hypocrite. You shouldn't be his toady.
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  962.  @quietman208  People claiming to be vegan are fine with the death of animals. They just enjoy virtue signaling. Not a single person currently living that ever claimed to be vegan actually is.
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  963. You're not vegan. You use animal products.
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  964. "We are closest to frugivores." So you get all of your B12 from fruit? "B12 is in Duckweed (or water lentils), Nutritional yeast, mushrooms, algae/seaweed, tempeh, also fortified cereals." None of these are fruit. "where do you get your B12?" The same place the other 99.2% of the world gets it. Animals.
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  965.  @bethanylivesfree  "so you could just supplement is my point." Supplements are required by law to be tested on animals.
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  966.  @bethanylivesfree  Certified vegan supplements are a certain type. Please don't generalize and spread lies. If you really cared about animals you wouldn't be using products of their slaughter. You don't seem to have a problem with doing that.
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  967.  @bethanylivesfree  "How do you know what I have a problem with?" You are currently using products of their slaughter to argue with a random person on the internet. So you don't seem to have a problem with that. Are you bothered that I am right? I am not being a troll and I have never preached values or morals that I ignore.
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  968.  @bethanylivesfree  "so saying to a random person on the internet that they can supplement B12 instead of getting it from an animal that also supplements tells you that I personally contribute to animal slaughter?" Yes, it does. Smart phones, computers, routers and servers are made with and/or contain animal products from slaughtered animals. "You are the one who said you get your B12 from a slaughtered animal," I never said this. You're lying. Lab animals are not slaughtered animals. " I however have never claimed that." I didn't say you did.
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  969.  @bethanylivesfree  "You are right, in the sense that no one can be 100% Vegan" Vegans don't exist. The definition doesn't care if you eat or use 1% or 100% animal products. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. "I quite enjoy when meat eaters think they can “gotcha” me by trying to use what they think my morals are against me. " I quite enjoy when the intellectually stunted assume I am a meat eater because they don't like what I said. It's almost like they don't realize B12 exists in milk and cheese. I guess they are too busy virtue signaling to worry about facts. "This is a fair reason to assume you are a meat eater. Okay? You shouldn't assume. "I apologize if I assumed incorrectly." I don't accept. Anything else?
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  970.  @bethanylivesfree  "Thanks for your input. Have a nice life. " Why did you say this first? "How did B12 get into that milk and cheese?" From cows eating grass.
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  971.  @bethanylivesfree  "Even organic raised animals are given B12." Cool assumption. Organic grass fed cows aren't given B12 supplements in my area. Thanks for losing. You will probably reply again after waving off twice.
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  972. "I am a vegan" You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. You're not vegan.
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  973. "100% herbivores, check this (insert biased plant based youtube channel") We are omnivores. That is just a fact. Yes we can make choices. We should also embody the choices we push on others. Take yourself for example. You have no problem with using products made with animal bits. Stop being a hypocrite. Go factual.
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  974.  @spr4019  "But 75% of the agriculture is to feed the animals before killing them ." This is a lie. This is the soy numbers alone. You're forgetting that we grow a multitude of other crops. Cotton, flax, ramie, hemp, jute, etc etc. The number of plants that go to animals is closer to 30% and of that number only 20% go directly to animals.
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  975.  @spr4019  Yet you're happy to use products made from their exploitation while lying about the percentages used. Maybe just stop typing until you get your research done. That way you won't be such a huge liar.
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  976.  @jiimmyyy  You want him to meet a burden of proof for his opinion? I really hate people claiming to be vegan too. They are just a bunch of virtue signaling hypocrites.
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  977.  @cdabcdefg12345  You do know that vegan and veganism are different words with different definitions right? Let me help you. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. If you eat or use animal products you're not vegan. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." If you use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid then you don't practice veganism. You replied to me using routers and servers that are possible and practicable to avoid so you don't practice veganism. Failing or succeeding at practicing the doctrine of veganism doesn't make you vegan. The rest of your babble is just you building strawmen.
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  978.  @cdabcdefg12345  "Doesn't matter what word games you wanna play" You think using the actual official definitions of words created by the Vegan Society is playing word games? LOL "animal exploitation is wrong and avoiding it is the right thing to do." Okay and? I never said it wasn't wrong. I am simply pointing out that lying about being vegan or lying about practicing veganism isn't a requirement to care about animals. " I don't want to make any personal attacks but its hard to believe that you really think your argument invalidates the cause of animal rights or veganism." This is just you attacking a strawman. I never made such an argument. "Your argument may mean that no one is truly a vegan, but what significance does that have?" That people are provably lying. That's it. "That small paradox definitely does not justify killing an animal when it is unnecessary." Attacking another strawman I see. I never argued this or anything like this. You're making things up to argue against. " Would you say that, because it's impossible to eliminate all animal exploitation, making an effort to eliminate nearly all of it is pointless?" No. Would you say that since you completely lost on the facts you decided to make things up to argue against? Typical liar. You not only make up arguments you also make things up to argue against.
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  979.  @cdabcdefg12345  Took you long enough to figure out what I was plainly saying. Not sure why you decided to make so many things up.
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  980. Okay? Then try it. Don't eat or use any animal products from slaughtered animals.
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  981.  @braziliantsar  He likes to delete comments that interfere with his narrative.
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  982.  @amizan8653  Yet you're happy to use products made with animal products from those same factory farms while virtue signaling about your nonexistent morality. So either way you're a liar for claiming to be vegan and a hypocrite for using animal products from factory farms.
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  983. More name calling because you can't refute me. I proved this person a liar and a hypocrite so now he deletes comments. Thanks for the win. (see....no reason for name calling)
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  984. That's what James was doing when he made his movie. He literally eats and uses animal products while pretending to be against it fort monetary gain.
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  985.  @Lazyspaceout  "dude dont hate on someone because of their food choices thats immature," I never did that. Don't hate one someone and make things up they never said because you're slow. " just because someone vegan" No one here is vegan. Why do you keep making things up? "your clearly" you're* You clearly have spelling issues. Anything else?
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  986.  @Lazyspaceout  "I've seen several comments throughout, this video you hating on vegan" I have never hated on a vegan. You're lying again. If all you're going to do it lie, why even bother making a comment? Thanks for the win and your concession.
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  987.  @Lazyspaceout  You're the one claiming I said things that never happened. That is literally delusion. You're making things up. Good to see you can't refute me. Thanks for the easy win and your concession.
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  988.  @amizan8653  You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat for entertainment pleasure. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment? I know you won't answer this directly and honestly, but I want others to see you're just a hypocrite. I predict you will ignore the question, go into denial, ask me which animal products (proving you don't do your own research, and/or you will justify your needless use of animal products with a doctrine.
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  989.  @alvarez321  Your entire comment has nothing to refute me and is just name calling and insults. Thanks for proving you can't refute me. I accept your concession.
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  990.  @bruceree1574  He wants evidence of an opinion. He isn't so bright.
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  991. You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment. Maybe stop with the fan fiction and start practicing what you preach. YT is an entertainment platform. Animal based stearic acid (livestock tallow) and animal based activated carbon (livestock bones) are the industry standard in processor manufacturing. How did you reply without using something with a processor? Smoke signals? Typical wannabe trying to push your religious nonsense instead of practicing what you preach.
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  992.  @antitheistvegan  You think you can hear my text? LOL Good to see you agree with me since you can't refute me. I accept your concession.
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  993. Vegans don't exist. The super aggressive people pretending to be vegan are some of the dumbest people on the planet.
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  994. "I’ve been healthy vegan for five years." You're not vegan and you haven't been vegan for any years. You use animal products needlessly.
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  995.  @clarenceclarence9529  Earthling Ed is a liar that pretends to be vegan for subs. He isn't any more vegan than you are. Easily proven.
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  996.  @JB.zero.zero.1  Just like on raw plants dippy. Norovirus, Salmonella, Listeria, and Cyclospora to name a few. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? You're just another wannabe playing pretend because you derive more worth from the claim than the actual practice.
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  997.  @RobertSmith-tc1oc  Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it?
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  998.  @1god2674  You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment. Funny how you believe they should be sacrificed for your pleasure while pretending you are against it. Typical...
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  999.  @1god2674  Good to see you admit I am right since you can't refute me and are reduced to insults. I accept your admission that you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it.
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  1000.  @Bmanlaine21  Neither have you. You use animal products just like everyone else here.
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  1001.  @Bmanlaine21  Neither have you ever been "vegan." Animal based stearic acid (livestock tallow) and animal based activated carbon (livestock bones) are the industry standard in processor manufacturing. How did you comment without using something with a processor? Smoke signals? So just denial? Go ahead and regale me with justifications on why it's okay you use animal products intentionally and needlessly for entertainment now.
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  1002.  @Bmanlaine21  As predicted, you made justifications and you were dishonest again. "Do I need a phone?" You do realize a reply to me here requires more than just a phone right? YT servers are also made with animal products. So you're claiming you need YT to communicate with your kids? Really? LOL I accept your concession due to your dishonesty and denial.
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  1003.  @Bmanlaine21  Thanks for again admitting to using animal products needlessly for entertainment. That's my point. Your admission is your automatic concession that I am right. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  1004.  @Bmanlaine21  Thanks again for agreeing you're not "vegan." The material safety data sheet site has all of the information you need. Simply sign in and search the mechanical grade silicon manufacturers. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  1005.  @Bmanlaine21  Reduced to name calling now? Ad hominem = automatic win Thanks for the win and your ongoing concession.
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  1006.  @Bmanlaine21  Name calling is all you got? I accept your ongoing concession.
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  1007.  @CBT5777  So nothing to refute me either? I accept your concession.
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  1008.  @CBT5777  Because you have nothing to refute me. Did you read the first question? I accept your ongoing concession.
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  1009.  @CBT5777  Still nothing to refute me I see... I accept your ongoing concession.
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  1010.  @CBT5777  Thanks for admitting I am irrefutable since you chose to attack me instead of attempting to refute anything in this entire comment. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  1011.  @CBT5777  Still nothing to refute me? I accept your ongoing concession.
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  1012.  @CBT5777  Using my own words just proves how effective they are against you. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  1013.  @CBT5777  Scroll up and you will see you still haven't refuted my original comments. You're just here to babble nonsense. Thanks for the easy win and your ongoing concession.
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  1014. Enjoy.
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  1015.  @superfinevids  So you think insects aren't animals? What do you think they are? Dirt? Flowers? So you're okay with eating animal death as long as it is animal death that you approve of.... Just another hypocrite.
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  1016.  @superfinevids  "Lol I'm saying biology maybe we can eat insects." This doesn't make sense. Did you mean biologically or are you genuinely stupid? "But I personally don't." So you're a hypocrite? Cool. Why do you use animal products needlessly while pretending to be against it?
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  1017.  @robert.mechura  More crops are used for human consumption than livestock consumption. No need to make things up.
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  1018.  @robert.mechura  "Okay, I think you're a little confused." Nope, you're misunderstanding. More crops are used for human consumption. Consumption isn't just what we eat, it includes everything made with crops that humans use. Plastic, textiles, ethanol, rubber, cigarettes, biodiesel, etc... 70% of the world wide crops are for human consumption. Glad you're caught up.
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  1019.  @robert.mechura  You can stand by that all you like...it doesn't make it magically make sense. There isn't enough crop diversity for all humans to stop eating meat. Humans consume more crops than animals. consume - use up (a resource). Besides, if you really cared that much you would be vegan.
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  1020.  @robert.mechura  "I think we can agree to disagree." Nah, I will stick with facts as I am an adult. "We're probably just going to keep going in circles." That's just you. I state a fact and you try to argue around it instead of accepting it. "And I really do care and I am vegan." So you're a liar too. You're not vegan. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. Why do all of you virtue signaling hypocrites always lie about being vegan? You know you don't have to lie about being vegan to reduce harm right?
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  1021.  @robert.mechura  " woah I’m sorry to offend you." Who said I am offended? Is that your usual stance when a woman uses facts? "Do you mean that no one is truly vegan because everyone has an impact on animals?" Nope. Just going by the definition of "vegan." "You’re right, but I do choose vegan products and I don’t eat animal products (or as close as I can be because I recognize all forms of wide scale farming do kill insects)." Okay? You also use animal products intentionally and needlessly for entertainment and convenience.
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  1022.  @robert.mechura  "What are you referring to in your last paragraph?" So you agree that the first two paragraphs are correct... Good, that makes your other questions irrelevant.
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  1023.  @robert.mechura  "I know the definition of vegan and I don’t see how I’m violating it" Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You use animal products. No need to lie. "Can you please tell me how I am “using animal products intentionally and needlessly for entertainment and convenience?”" Mostly with your hands I am sure.
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  1024.  @robert.mechura  "Can you please explain how I am consuming animal products on a regular basis?" Strawman. I said you use animal products intentionally and needlessly for entertainment and convenience. You then asked how. I answered again. Now you're changing the words for some reason. "What am using that is in violation of veganism?" Now it's veganism? You're not vegan. Vegan and veganism are different words that have different definitions. You really should stop conflating the two. Then I will be specific since you don't do a lot of research into what you're lying about being. A vegan is a person who doesn't eat or use animal products. You use animal products. Specifically you use fat, gelatin, and bones in your electronic device and youtube's routers and servers every time you comment. Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle of avoiding animal products when possible and practicable. It is possible and practicable to stop replying to me using youtube's routers and servers. Now stop making things up and being a liar. Stick with the facts like an adult.
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  1025.  @1god2674  Good to see you can't refute me or answer a simple fact based question. I accept your concession.
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  1026.  @TheCnicus  Brand is more flamboyant than most British men...
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  1027.  @jiimmyyy  You want evidence of an opinion? You're not so bright are you?
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  1028. He is using animal products on this podcast. He isn't vegan.
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  1029. No vegan has acknowledged that to my knowledge. People claiming to be vegan go both ways in my experience. None of them are actually vegan.
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  1030. They were actually asked about their stance on the subject and one of the girls screamed out pro-choice and then the organizer started telling people not to talk to the person recording.
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  1031.  @markraymond7235  Make sure you include everyone claiming to be vegan in your comment. They all use animal products as well.
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  1032.  @markraymond7235  "Like many, you maybe missing the point." Kind of like you're missing my point. "Most vegans" They aren't vegan. "are well aware that it is almost impossible to completely avoid using animal products if you live in modern society." Which contradicts the definition of "vegan." Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. " Car tires, drywall, white sugar, some paint and even asphalt...all contain cow parts, for example." Not to mention smart phones, computers, servers, televisions, etc... "What some of the vegan" They aren't vegan. "(animals rights) folks are trying to do is use as few animal products as possible and advocate for finding non-animal product alternatives to existing products." While making themselves into complete hypocrites by using animal products that are perfectly possible to avoid.
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  1033.  @markraymond7235  "Why is that, because a real vegan can't use any animal products in order to qualify under your definition?" It's not my definition. It's the official definition created by the Vegan Society. "Why do you think you're intent on labeling them as hypocrites?" A lot of questions from you.... If you lie, you're a liar. If you practice hypocrisy, you're a hypocrite. They use animal products = they are not vegan. They claim to be against animal suffering while taking part in it = hypocrisy. I am not sure which concept is too hard for you to grasp. Thanks for proving you can't refute me.
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  1034.  @markraymond7235  You're free to continue using logical fallacies. You still haven't refuted me. I accept your concession.
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  1035.  @markraymond7235  So you're confusing the veganism doctrine which is about a lifestyle with the word vegan which describes a person... At least now I see why you're confused. Youtube's servers are made with animal products and are possible and practicable to avoid. Anyone making a comment here is using animal products needlessly for entertainment. I get it. You're religion was put on the spot and it hurt your feelings. There is nothing you can do about it. You're not vegan and you don't practice veganism with the proof being your own comments. Edit: I went off topic like you. My bad. As far as the people in the video, none of them are vegan or practice veganism. They are all using animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  1036. "Can anyone explain why Gorillas have such large canines if they're only on a plant based diet?" Sure. They aren't on a plant based diet. They eat animals as well. They are omnivores. Tooth and claw are evolutionary traits for defense as well as eating. "Also what teeth are we supposed to use for bread?" So you think the earliest evolution of humans were making bread? Try to eat a apple without teeth...
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  1037. You're not vegan. No need to lie.
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  1038. Just another liar or ignorant person pretending to be vegan for fun. You're not vegan. You never were.
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  1039.  @manikantasrao7868  It's a fact.
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  1040. "There’s no argument against veganism to this day" There is no reason to argue against something that no one does. Take you for example. You're fine using animal products intentionally and needlessly that are possible and practicable to avoid. Every living person on the planet chooses convenience, hobbies, fun, and entertainment over possible and practicable.
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  1041. James eats animal products. He lost his entire argument before he even began.
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  1042. You literally use animal products. No need to play pretend.
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  1043. You're lying. According to the CDC they are the highest but nowhere near 95%. You're making things up to suit a narrative that you made up in your head.
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  1044.  @ccmkoho  No, like I already told you. They are high, but are not 95%.
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  1045. The guy who made the film eats and uses animal products. He isn't legit so his movie based on what he is faking likely isn't legit either.
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  1046.  @Winterstorm137  "he doesn’t" So you didn't see the interview where he admitted to eating honey from his brother's hives? Honey = animal product Animal based stearic acid (livestock tallow) and animal based activated carbon (livestock bones) are the industry standard in processor manufacturing. How do you think he has an internet presence without using something with a processor? Smoke signals? He does in fact eat and use animal products. Your denial proves your dishonesty. Thanks for the easy win and your automatic concession because you went with denying facts.
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  1047.  @shawns4354  You literally use animal products while preaching that other people should not use animal products. You're just a liar and a hypocrite full of your own cognitive dissonance.
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  1048.  @shawns4354  Of course you do. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and contain fat, gelatin, and bones. Every time you comment you are using animal products intentionally and needlessly for entertainment.
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  1049.  @shawns4354  "I believe you misunderstand veganism." I know exactly what veganism is "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." It is possible and practicable to stop using youtube's servers which are made with animal products and is an entertainment platform. "as far as practically possible." The word "practically" does not exist in the definition of veganism. You're a liar. You continue to prove you're a liar and a hypocrite. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while lying about practicing veganism? I know you won't answer this directly and honestly, but I want others to see your moral hypocrisy. I predict you won't answer the questions, you will go into denial, you will ask which animal products proving you don't do any research, and/or you will use a doctrine as a justification for using animal products needlessly for entertainment.
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  1050.  @tbag6600  They aren't really vegan though. They just claim to be for the victim status they crave. They use animal products cut from the same dead animals that meat eaters use.
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  1051.  @DavidBLoveRebel  So you're going to delete your account now? I never asked a question. Thanks for the win. Bye bye to your account.
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  1052.  @DavidBLoveRebel  Still can't name one? Figured you deleted your account already. There wasn't a single person in the documentary who doesn't use animal products. Try again or delete your account. Either way I knew you couldn't name one.
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  1053.  @DavidBLoveRebel  He uses animal products. Try again. Still waiting.
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  1054.  @DavidBLoveRebel  Still looking? Just delete it already...
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  1055.  @DavidBLoveRebel  The search continues I guess.
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  1056.  @vegonstruct5786  "You seem to think that this justifies all suffering" Straw man. "That’s why I’m vegan fyi," You use animal products. You're not vegan. You're just a virtue signaling liar.
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  1057.  @vegonstruct5786  "I addressed your argument that I am not vegan." Then you lied about being vegan again. "That’s why I’m vegan fyi," "You don’t seem to know what veganism or straw man means." Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle. You don't seem to know what veganism is. A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy of having the impression of refuting an argument, meanwhile the proper idea of argument under discussion was not addressed or properly refuted. "If you’re thinking of trying to argue that the net suffering you cause is less than even a junk food vegan who doesn’t recycle then you’re foolish." If you have to make things up to argue against me you already lost the argument. You "use" animal products. You're not vegan. Veganism is not the definition of vegan.
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  1058. People claiming to be vegan are just a bunch of virtue signaling liars and hypocrites. They want in on the oppression Olympics.
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  1059. Wilks eats and uses animal products needlessly. He didn't have any credibility.
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  1060. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? I know you won't answer honestly so don't bother trying.
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  1061.  @CONAN1952  As predicted, you didn't answer. You use animal products. You do so needlessly. You do so for entertainment. You pretend to be against it. All facts and all irrefutable. I simply asked why and you are evading the simple question as I knew you would. I accept your concession.
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  1062.  @CONAN1952  Livestock tallow and livestock bones. What's with the 20 question routine? Just answer the question I asked you first. You're the one using animal products so you should be well aware of the fact you're using them.
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  1063.  @CONAN1952  "actually I don't use animal products for entertainment." Remember you typed that. YT is an entertainment platform. Animal based stearic acid (livestock tallow) and animal based activated carbon (livestock bones) are the industry standard in processor manufacturing. How did you reply without using a processor? Smoke signals? As predicted, you didn't answer the simple fact based question again. I guess denial and dishonesty are your only arguments. I accept your concession because you refuse to accept facts.
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  1064.  @CONAN1952  Must be still looking for an answer or stuck in a denial loop.
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  1065.  @CONAN1952  Still looking for that answer?
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  1066.  @Mushur0x0r5s0x36  Why are you recommending a documentary based on lies and propaganda?
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  1067.  @Mushur0x0r5s0x36  Five replies? Triggered? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? You claim you're not going to argue, then spam me with 5 irrelevant replies? Someone not hug you enough?
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  1068.  @amizan8653  They are also killed for electronics, appliances, and vehicles to name a few. https://www.britannica.com/explore/savingearth/the-processing-of-gelatin "Gelatin processing plants are usually located near slaughterhouses, and often the owners of gelatin factories have their own slaughterhouses where animals are killed just for their skin and bones." Turns out you're just a virtue signaling liar and hypocrite.
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  1069.  @amizan8653  Did you not read? The meat isn't even harvested from some cattle by some companies. They are not byproducts when they are what the animal is killed for. They are primary products. Primary products - require the death of an animal. I guess when all you have is lies and hypocrisy you get very narrow minded and stupid. You claim to want it phased out while you're actively using animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid. You're just a liar and a hypocrite.
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  1070.  @amizan8653  More name calling because I proved you're a liar and a hypocrite. Very typical of you liars pretending to be vegan. "Alternatives to gelatin" For food. You're cherry picking as well. Fat, gelatin, and bones are used in the production of the products you're using. So again. You're a liar and a hypocrite.
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  1071. James has no credibility. He literally eats and uses animal products. Just another fad movement populated by people who don't practice what they preach.
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  1072. Fan fiction is not an argument. Denying science is not an argument. Gorillas and chimpanzees eat insects and rarely mammals all of the time. Humans are scientifically classified as omnivores. Obesity is because of gluttony. Most diets (including plant based) can result in obesity. What is a "Tom's of animal products."? I don't buy anything from any Tom that I know of. I guess denying science and making things up are the last arguments you have left.
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  1073. He doesn't respect liars and hypocrites. He is claiming to be vegan while openly and blatantly using animal products for entertainment and convenience.
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  1074. Animals "loose" their lives eh? Look that word up. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? Answer that instead of blaming others for things you do yourself.
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  1075. People pretending to be vegan are attempting to take meat off the table for everyone. They love people like you that have a fair amount of respect. It means they can push their agenda with one less person (you) getting in their way.
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  1076. We are omnivores. This is scientific fact.
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  1077.  Le Abdollen  They are scientifically classified as omnivores because they eat a large number of animals. Stop making things up.
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  1078. He is just a guy on a plant based diet. He continues to use animal products needlessly for convenience and entertainment. This alone proves he is not vegan. No need to lie for him.
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  1079. Our ability to adapt and make tools is a human trait.
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  1080.  @blakeniles3622  We were omnivores long before we started eating cooked meat. Omnivores come in all shapes and sizes. Look at the Gorilla or the anteater. Besides, you have already proven yourself a liar. You claim to be vegan and even have a tattoo of "vegan" on your abdomen yet you use animal products from the same animals normal people eat for fun. You're just a virtue signaling hypocrite.
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  1081.  @blakeniles3622  My last word? No I am just pointing out liars and hypocrites.
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  1082. You could have just replied to them directly.
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  1083. @E DAWG Both choices involve animal death.
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  1084. @E DAWG "Yes they due." What are they due? "I was referring to HUMAN death." The Mediterranean diet is the healthiest diet. It is both meat and plants. When people overeat or are glutonous they die early. Just a fact of life. Not sure how "due" comes in to play.
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  1085. @E DAWG So you believe fish, chicken, eggs, cheese, duck, and turkey are plants? Thanks I win. That was easy. You still haven't explained "Yes they due." I doubt you can.
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  1086. @E DAWG Actually it didn't. If we were herbivores we wouldn't be able to digest meat like we can. You should spend your time UFO spotting instead of being a science denier.
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  1087. @E DAWG Two replies? Triggered? Can't keep your thoughts together? "Using your own words (you claimed that the Mediterranean diet is best for humans), we are herbivores." The Mediterranean diet has a daily meat requirement. It is not a herbivore diet. I never said it was the "best." You're a liar. I said it was the "healthiest diet." "Herbivores are able to digest meat." Humans received the classification of omnivore for their ability to properly digest plant and animal material. This is a scientific classification. You deny it by claiming humans are herbivores. You are a science denier. "This is besides the point, but how does me filming objects in the sky make me a science denier?" This is a straw man argument. I never said filming objects in the sky makes you a science denier. I called you a science denier and suggested you're better off filming "UFOs" as you called it. Anything else? Care to explain what "Yes they due." means? Just going to lie some more? Maybe build a few more straw men?
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  1088. @E DAWG I see you went with "lie some more." You just can't help it. I understand that you have an agenda to push, but denying science will always make you the loser. Thanks for the easy win.
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  1089. @E DAWG "Their is literally no argument in their, just an ad hominom." In their? In their what? Do you not know the difference between there and their? And you're arguing about something technical like the third trophic level? That's funny. It isn't ad hominem to state a fact. You literally deny scientific data. You're a science denier. "If by saying the "healthiest diet", you DID NOT mean "the best", then what did you mean?" "Best" is subjective per person. Healthiest is a "objective" fact. I see you're still a science denier. So you actually have nothing? Try one more time. Let's see if you can get a little bit of truth out.
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  1090. @E DAWG "Thier was literally no argument in that comment either." Thier? That's not even a word. Learn to spell or go upstairs and ask your parents for help. "Instead of talking shit" Stating facts you mean? "ARE YOU UNABLE...." And now you're breaking out the caps lock. I figured you for the type. I get it. You don't like the facts I have presented so you're dismissing them entirely. Thanks for the easy irrefutable win.
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  1091.  @jiimmyyy  Again you're asking for evidence for an opinion. Do you have an extra chromosome or do you enjoy being irrelevant?
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  1092. So nothing to refute him and just nonsense babble? Cool.
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  1093.  @darkengine5931  I didn't speak. I typed. If I replied to you it would say @Dark Engine in blue letters eh?
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  1094.  @shawns4354  You must have missed my last comment. Try again. So you can't answer the simple question? "so we agree" Nope. You're lying again. "murder" Murder is uniquely human and is illegal. Livestock are not human and slaughter is legal. You're conflating humans with animals to create an appeal to emotion logical fallacy. I don't care if animals are slaughtered. I am just pointing out your hypocrisy. You use animal products needlessly for entertainment while claiming it is murder (an illegal act). I simply ask you why and you can't answer. You would rather build strawmen about some fictional agreement that only happened in your head. Thanks for the win and your concession based on your inability to use facts or answer a simple question.
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  1095.  @shawns4354  So you can't answer a simple question again and have instead decided to appeal to hypocritical authorities who also use animal products needlessly for entertainment? Thanks for continuing to prove you can't refute me. Since you ignored my previous comment again I will paste it for you. Try again. So you can't answer the simple question? "so we agree" Nope. You're lying again. "murder" Murder is uniquely human and is illegal. Livestock are not human and slaughter is legal. You're conflating humans with animals to create an appeal to emotion logical fallacy. I don't care if animals are slaughtered. I am just pointing out your hypocrisy. You use animal products needlessly for entertainment while claiming it is murder (an illegal act). I simply ask you why and you can't answer. You would rather build strawmen about some fictional agreement that only happened in your head. Thanks for the win and your concession based on your inability to use facts or answer a simple question.
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  1096.  @shawns4354  "Your ignorant on the matter and your a troll." You're* Learn to spell. It's funny that you're reduced to name calling because you don't like the facts. "You don't understand what veganism and I am not your momma." Sure I do. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." It is possible and practicable to stop using youtube's servers which are made with animal products and is an entertainment platform. I see you didn't answer the simple question again. It's very telling that a simple question has you so triggered you would rather name call than answer. Remember, you're the only who lies about livestock being murdered. You're the one who continues to justify using animal products cut from the same dead animals that everyone uses. Anything else or are you going to stick with your concession based on your inability to refute me, prove me wrong, or spell like an adult?
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  1097.  @shawns4354  "Your ignorant on the matter and your a troll." You're* Learn to spell. It's funny that you're reduced to name calling because you don't like the facts. "You don't understand what veganism and I am not your momma." Sure I do. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." It is possible and practicable to stop using youtube's servers which are made with animal products and is an entertainment platform. I see you didn't answer the simple question again. It's very telling that a simple question has you so triggered you would rather name call than answer. Remember, you're the only who lies about livestock being murdered. You're the one who continues to justify using animal products cut from the same dead animals that everyone uses. Anything else or are you going to stick with your concession based on your inability to refute me, prove me wrong, or spell like an adult?
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  1098. You literally use animal products just like everyone else here. You were just debunked two words in.
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  1099.  @verosalvo1  "I don't." Remember you typed that. Animal based stearic acid (livestock tallow) and animal based activated carbon (livestock bones) are the industry standard in processor manufacturing. How did you reply without using something with a processor? Smoke signals? You're confusing the adjective with the noun. You use animal products. Fact No need to make things up.
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  1100.  @bobbyb4024  "Clarence Kennedy?" Not vegan. He uses animal products. Stop making things up.
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  1101. Gorillas are omnivores. They eat insect larva quite often in the wild.
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