Comments by "Janie Swanson" (@janieswanson2549) on "Joe Rogan - Butchering Deer In Front of Vegan Protestors" video.

  1.  @cdabcdefg12345  Hahahha You literally don't know what veganism is. If you did, you would know there isn't a single person that actually practices veganism.
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  2.  @me5969  That means he is not vegan. He is simply on a vegan diet. There is a difference.
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  3.  @theyellowturnip7060  Vegan Society definition of vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person that does not eat or use animal products. Anyone claiming to be vegan proves every day they are too stupid to stop claiming to be vegan. They all use animal products every day. Just making a comment on youtube servers proves the person to be using animal products.
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  4.  @Ghazithasoulja  They aren't vegan in the first place. They are just a bunch of virtue signaling liars and hypocrites. They should be mad at themselves for wasting everyone's time.
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  5.  @cdabcdefg12345  "He says he is vegan," So he is lying. "If heis against animal abuse, then he should care if others abuse animals or not." He is not. He uses animal products from the same animals that die for food. The rest of your babble is irrelevant and off topic. He uses animal products intentionally and needlessly that are possible and practicable to avoid. He isn't vegan and he doesn't practice veganism.
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  6.  @shawns4354  "It certainly is when you expand the definition from human being to sentient being." Playing pretend isn't an argument. Murder is uniquely human and is illegal. Livestock are not human and slaughter is legal. You're conflating humans with animals to create an appeal to emotion logical fallacy. "There's always two sides to a story." Trying to extort the guys business is okay for you? Use objective facts instead of appeals to emotion. "A civil discussion didn't cross his mind?" Watch the full interview. He tried to have a civil discussion and he even introduced a plant based menu. It wasn't until they started trying to extort him that he decided to cut the deer up in front of them. Why do you people use animal products needlessly for entertainment while claiming it is murder? Wouldn't that make you guilty of the very thing you claim to be against? I know you won't answer this directly and honestly, but I want others to see your moral hypocrisy. I predict you won't answer the questions, you will go into denial, you will ask which animal products proving you don't do any research, and/or you will use a doctrine as a justification for using animal products needlessly for entertainment.
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  7.  @shawns4354  "you are taking the life of another sentient being that can and does suffer and has a will to live." Just like you and everyone else here which is why I asked the question. Why do you people use animal products needlessly for entertainment while claiming it is murder? Wouldn't that make you guilty of the very thing you claim to be against? I know you won't answer this directly and honestly, but I want others to see your moral hypocrisy. I predict you won't answer the questions, you will go into denial, you will ask which animal products proving you don't do any research, and/or you will use a doctrine as a justification for using animal products needlessly for entertainment. "Do some research." I have. I do objective research. "Start with Earthling Ed or Joey Carbstrong here on YouTube." You're appealing to authority and using liars and hypocrites as an example. "Watch Dominion." I have. At best it is full of disingenuous assertions and at worst it contains many lies that are easily proven false. You use animal products just like me and everyone else. You're just a liar and a hypocrite pushing a cultish fad that you don't even follow yourself. I accept your concession.
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  8.  @ironicstocktrader3993  So you're a liar and a hypocrite. Routers and servers are unavoidable if you make comments on youtube. Thanks for the easy win.
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  9. They tried to extort him so he did that.
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  10. He also drank water....
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  11. Your reply is probably the most perfect reply to this video. Most of the replies fall on two sides. 1. Those trying to trigger the virtue signaling hypocrites. 2. Those being virtue signaling hypocrites. Your reply doesn't do either while putting both in their place. Perfect....
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  12.  @shawns4354  "Like slavery. War. Racism." These are all human related. They don't apply to livestock. You're appealing to emotions again.
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  13.  @shawns4354  So you can't answer the simple question? "so we agree" Nope. You're lying again. "murder" Murder is uniquely human and is illegal. Livestock are not human and slaughter is legal. You're conflating humans with animals to create an appeal to emotion logical fallacy. I don't care if animals are slaughtered. I am just pointing out your hypocrisy. You use animal products needlessly for entertainment while claiming it is murder (an illegal act). I simply ask you why and you can't answer. You would rather build strawmen about some fictional agreement that only happened in your head. Thanks for the win and your concession based on your inability to use facts or answer a simple question.
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  14. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? I know you won't answer honestly, I just want others to see your hypocrisy.
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  15.  @dodumichalcevski  Still can't answer a simple question I see. You know I am typing right? No talking here... I accept your concession since you can't answer a simple fact based question.
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  16.  @bobbyb4024  "What makes you think animals were made purely for us?" Because of the fact that even people like you who claim we shouldn't use animal products are fine using them as long as it suits your agenda. You continue to make claims while using animal products intentionally and needlessly. You're just a common hypocrite that continues to out yourself by simply commenting.
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  17. "Vegetarians and vegans have proven that one does not have to kill animals for their flesh in order to live a happy and healthy life." And they have all proven they are willing to use animal flesh for convenience and entertainment while being virtue signaling liars and hypocrites. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while acting like you're against it? I know you won't answer this question directly and truthfully, I just want anyone reading to see your moral hypocrisy. I predict you will ignore the question, go into denial, ask me which animal products proving you don't do your own research, and/or use a doctrine as justification for using animal products needlessly for entertainment.
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  18. Murder is only something a human can do to another human. You don't really care about dead animals. If you did you would be vegan instead of being here virtue signaling.
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  19.  @ironicstocktrader3993  You're not vegan. You use animal products. You're just a liar playing pretend. I don't know what you being sweaty has to do with anything.
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  20.  @ironicstocktrader3993  "fyi i do not use animal products." You do use animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, servers, refrigerators, microwaves, asphalt roads, vehicles, carpet, drywall, windows, etc are all made with and/or contain animal products. The simple act of making a comment on youtube proves you use animal products. "quit assuming things about people you know nothing about 😙" Quit assuming things about yourself that you know nothing about. 😂🤣😂
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  21.  @ironicstocktrader3993  I guess you learned something new and decided to stop using animal products. You're welcome for the learning experience. If you ever decide to use animal products again you can check your notifications and come back to apologize.
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  22. It's even more sinister than that. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are all made with fat, gelatin, and bones from the same dead animals that normal people eat. You can clearly see in the video these people are all fine using products made with the same dead animals. The truth is they aren't vegan at all. Just a bunch of attention seeking virtue signaling liars and hypocrites.
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  23. Murder is illegal and uniquely human. It was nothing to do with livestock, wild animals, or pets. A lion eating your kids is not murder....unless another human made it happen.
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  24.  @harpalgill5935  Thanks for admitting you were dishonest. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  25. No, they are just doing it for attention.
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  26.  @jackmichaelpeter  Three replies? Are you unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? Thanks for admitting you use animal products intentionally and needlessly. You're a hypocrite. Congrats. Thanks for the easy win and your concession.
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  27. Antler restaurant is on a street full of meat venders. They specifically attacked him because he was a small business.
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  28. You know he changed his menu since the protests right? He was trying to appease them at first so they would stop trying to extort him and in the end he just went back to his original menu. He wasn't lying. The menu changed in the last couple of years.
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  29.  @jameswelch82  It's an hour and 46 minutes long. He talks about the menu and why he changed it. Watch the full video instead of this cut.
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  30. Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle. It has nothing to do with crops.
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  31.  @davidgough3512  "the thoughtful vegan" They don't exist. Everyone currently living in the modern world eats and/or uses animal products in some way. The less than 1% of people around the world claiming to be vegan are just virtue signaling for attention.
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  32.  @Ghazithasoulja  Two replies? Triggered? "How do you know for sure they use animal products?" Easy. Asphalt, smart phones, computers, routers, servers, vehicles, carpet, refrigerators, microwaves, drywall, etc.. are all made with and/or contain animal products. Everyone living in the modern world uses animal products. "And speak for yourself sweetheart u don't know me or know what i use" Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and/or contain animal products. You are using some of these just to make comments on the internet. Thanks for the win I guess. Next time you're proven wrong you should at least do some research in to what you're claiming before you lie and make things up.
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  33.  @Ghazithasoulja  "Still? Never was a trouble" Multiple replies to single comments prove that's not true. And more spelling like a child and sexism. Thanks for proving me right. You lose.
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  34.  @Ghazithasoulja  Still can't refute me? You could have just said so instead of making another inane comment.
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  35.  @Ghazithasoulja  "You still haven't really told me what's in it for me if i let u declare yourself a "winner" of a game i didn't even know we were playing and rules u made up?" You still haven't refuted my original comment. Learn how to spell "you." They aren't vegan in the first place. They are just a bunch of virtue signaling liars and hypocrites.
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  36.  @Ghazithasoulja  Another two replies....triggered and impatient. They aren't vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. They use animal products. It's impossible to live in the modern world without using animal products. They practice hypocrisy. They tell other people what they shouldn't do while doing the exact opposite. They use animal products. And of course more name calling. Thanks for the win.
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  37. "Being vegan is literally proven to help the environment," Never happened. "Not everyone can be vegan but there should be 100x as many vegans as there are today " 100 x 0 = 0
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  38. Look at your own hypocrisy before you try to point out others. You're fine using products made with animal products.
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  39.  @vidyakrishna5190  "i can't remember er you ever coming into my house to inspect what product i use." I don't need to come to your house to know that you use products made with animal products. "Please stop with your whataboutism." This doesn't make sense. "Your opinion in this matter means nothing unless your a vegan." Learn the difference between "your" and "you're." So you're saying your opinion means nothing because you're not vegan? You use animal products needlessly. That's just a fact.
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  40.  @vidyakrishna5190  And now you're name calling because you can't refute me. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. Thanks for the easy win.
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  41.  @vidyakrishna5190  "you are a vegan?" No and neither are you. "do you use animal products?" Yes, just like you do.
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  42.  @vidyakrishna5190  "you don't know me but i know you now. " I don't need to know you to know you do in fact use animal products. "Have a great life and i hope for your well being, you take a path of veganiusm." veganiusm is not a word. "Trust me you'll get the best sleep, knowing that your action have not contributed to a brutal killing of a sentient being." You use animal products from the same animals I do. I guess you didn't know smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and/or contain animal products from pigs and cows. You could have just said in your first comment that you're ignorant and a hypocrite. That would have been much better and I wouldn't have replied.
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  43.  @vidyakrishna5190  Actually smart phones are made with: Fat - LCD screens/plastic Gelatin - Lithium batteries/adhesives Bones - Used to purify mechanical grade silicon for glass/processors. You're welcome for the information. Now you can apologize for being a hypocrite.
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  44.  @citydogband  Which one of the facts I gave are not true in your uneducated opinion?
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  45.  @joshuasanchez9257  Funny you say that while you're commenting on a greedy exploitative corporation's website.
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  46. Can't murder livestock. Murder is uniquely human.
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  47. murder - the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. Cows, pigs, and chickens are now humans?
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  48.  @robotec0007  "so how does it differ from an animal?" You seriously don't know how a human differs from cows, pigs, and chickens? Are you okay? " If i kill your cat/dog its not murder?" Nope. And you will end up in jail if you indiscriminately kill animals. "Thats legal?" You don't own my animals so no you can't kill them legally. Do you have an extra chromosome? "Give me your address and i come right away, im looking for some dinner" This is a real life threat and I will be reporting you for it. Anything else?
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  49.  @hirl63  You're making things up. The majority of livestock feed is inedible to humans. Try again. The facts.
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  50.  @hirl63  Yep. The majority of soy and corn that goes to livestock are first used in human industry to make things like ethanol, soybean oil, etc... After industry they are inedible to humans. Good to see you can't refute me. I accept your concession.
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  51.  @hirl63  Already did. The majority of "crops" go to human industry first before they are made into livestock feed. Funny how you're just pulling "soy" numbers while ignoring the rest. And I am curious... Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? I accept your ongoing concession.
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  52.  @hirl63  "you said spy and corn now you are backtracking." You're making things up. I never said anything about "spy." Thanks for the win and your concession.
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  53.  @hirl63  You're the one who limited it to soy and corn. Read my first comment instead of trying to strawman me. The majority of livestock feed is inedible to humans. You can't refute this. The majority of crops used to feed livestock other than grass are first used by humans. You can't refute this. You didn't answer the simple question either. I guess I shouldn't expect much from someone who is disingenuous and makes things up. Thanks for the win and your concession since you decided to use logical fallacies and make things up.
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  54.  @hirl63  Welcome back...with nothing to refute me again. I accept your ongoing concession. Thanks for the easy win.
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  55.  @hirl63  Still can't even answer the simple question eh? I accept your ongoing concession and the win.
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  56. ​ @joshuasanchez9257  Funny you say that while you're commenting on a greedy exploitative corporation's website.
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  57.  @jiimmyyy  They are leftists. So they claim it all of the time. Leftists are incredibly contradictory and hypocritical.
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  58. When someone claims they are vegan you can ask: "So you don't eat or use ANY animal products?" When they affirm they don't use any animal products drop this little knowledge bomb on them. Smart phones, computers, routers, servers, asphalt, motor vehicles, televisions, drywall, etc... are all made with and contain fat, gelatin, and bones. Or... next time someone claims to be vegan just look up their device and cross reference it with the MSDS site to show them how they are liars and hypocrites. They devolve into whining, justifications, denial, and name calling. It's hilarious.
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  59.  @cdabcdefg12345  It took you 7 months to come up with that? Yeah you do use animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, servers, refrigerators, asphalt, microwaves, etc... are all made with and/or contain animal products. Some of those you used just to reply to me.
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  60. If all of the virtue signaling liars and hypocrites pretending to be vegan thought like that we wouldn't have any reason to argue with them.
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  61. It's more extreme to be a bunch of hypocrites protesting a restaurant for attention.
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  62. They aren't happy just enjoying their fad. They have to let others know how virtuous they are while being complete hypocrites.
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  63.  @shawns4354  "we all do as much as we can." Not really. Everyone only does as much as they feel like doing. Use yourself as an example. You don't feel like giving up entertainment, so here you are using animal products needlessly for entertainment. "I feel at this point your just a paid troll from the Meat and Dairy industries." you're* Learn to spell. So just more name calling and false accusations eh? "There is no point in debating with paid actors." I am not a paid actor. It's strange how you went from "feel" to making a direct accusation. Thanks for continuing to prove you can't refute me, answer a simple question, or stop being a hypocrite. I win. I accept your concession.
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  64. None of those people out there were vegan so the point of view of a bunch of liars and hypocrites is irrelevant.
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  65. preformed? LOL Can't murder livestock. Murder is uniquely human and illegal. Why do you use animal products?
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  66. Deer is the plural for Deer...
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  67. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly from factory farmed animals while claiming to be vegan. Do you lie and practice hypocrisy because you want people to think you're morally superior or do you just want the attention?
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  68. We are omnivores by definition. - an animal or person that eats food of both plant and animal origin.
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  69. They don't even know the definition of vegan and they actually claim to be vegan. They are all victims of extra chromosomes and leftist schools.
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  70.  @bobbyb4024  "Veganism/vegetarianism is growing more and more every year all over the world." "vegetarianism" has no comparison to veganism. Veganism growing from 0% to 0% isn't an accomplishment. No one practices veganism because it interferes with convenience and entertainment.
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  71.  @bobbyb4024  "Well in the US it went from 1% of consumers identifying as vegan to 6% in 3 years." People lying about being vegan make up 100% of people that identify as vegan. So like I said 0% to 0%. "That's just the US alone and worldwide it is increasing so I don't see your point." Vegans don't exist in the modern world by definition. That's the point.
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  72.  @Indrave_2274  "Even if vegans don't exist, whatever they'd be, they'd still be more ethical than you." Bold statement for knowing nothing about me. How do a bunch of liars and hypocrites have better ethics than me? Oh, do explain. "But keel hiding under your semantics and your denying of statistics lol." How do you expect me to "keel" hiding? So you have nothing to refute and just decided to babble?
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  73.  @Indrave_2274  It seems that you're only capable of ad hominem and assumption. I never said owning a phone means you don't practice veganism. I am simply stating that eating or using animal products means you're not vegan and using animal products when it is possible and practicable to avoid them is not practicing veganism. Just the facts.
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  74.  @Indrave_2274  "You did say owning a phone means someone doesn't practice veganism because they contain animal-derived materials - just in another comment." Quote it. When you try to find a quote maybe you will read it slower and see that I never said that. "So I guess lying is alright as long as it suits your ego." That's what you're doing. Stop projecting. "My assumptions are pretty fair considering your intellectual dishonesty - something vegans seldom have." If by "pretty fair" you mean "literally wrong" then sure. Vegans don't exist in the modern world. If you eat or use animal products you're literally and technically not vegan by definition. "What is your idea of a proper vegan?" Pretty simple. A person who does not eat or use animal products. Convenient for me because that is the definition of "vegan." "Someone living in a cardboard box that lives off particulates in the air? Cause this whole "possible and practicable" thing is not some kind of tangible value." Another assumption as expected. "possible and practicable" is part of the "veganism" doctrine and doesn't make someone vegan. "I remember you said "Vegans don't exist." Oh really?" Yep, really. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Name one person that doesn't eat or use animal products. Just one. "So I guess animal rights activists can't be called good people because they're not saving animals every waking moment of their lives?" Why do you continue to type fan fiction? I never said this. "I think you need to look up what "practicable" means" Okay. practicable (adjective) - able to be done or put into practice successfully. It is possible and practicable to stop using youtube's routers and servers (made with animal products) to reply to me. Yet you continue to do it proving you don't follow the veganism doctrine. "Meticulously scouring one's lifestyle for minute instances of unnecessary actions does not fall under that definition." I know this. I am just pointing out the blatant uses of animal products. If you eat or use animal products you're not vegan. If you eat or use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid then you don't practice veganism. It is possible to practice veganism while not being vegan. This is where many of you virtue signaling liars get confused. It is currently not possible to be vegan in the modern world. Pretty simple. No need to overcomplicate the definitions. More assumptions, lies, and fan fiction. Try again.
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  75.  @Indrave_2274  Why would I use google definitions when the Vegan Society's definitions are the official definitions? Still can't find the quote that you lied about? Give up yet? "As you can see, your statement that "it is possible to practice veganism while not being vegan" is incorrect." As you can see you lied again. "See, I can use definitions to make me look smart too." You cherry picked definitions. That doesn't make you look smart. It makes you look desperate. "Not necessarily. According to the "possible and practicable" aspect of veganism, if someone is starving on a desert island, they are still vegan if the kill an animal to survive." Making inane comments on youtube isn't survival. Try again. "I can only wonder why you go through so much trouble trying to be the semantics police." Says the person cherry picking definitions to fit your own personal bias instead of using the official definitions. "It's hard to imagine it's anything other than an illogical hatred toward vegans that stems from something else." I don't hate vegans. I don't hate unicorns or fire breathing dragons either. It must suck to have to make things up to push a narrative. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. This is the official definition of "vegan" created by the Vegan Society. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose;" This is the official definition of "veganism" created by the Vegan Society. Notice they are different words with different definitions? Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle and is not the definition of a person. Failure or success at practicing veganism doesn't make you vegan. To be vegan you simply must not eat or use animal products. To practice veganism you simply must not use animal products when possible and practicable to avoid them. No need to overcomplicate things. I win.
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  76.  @Indrave_2274  " I see no point continuing this conversation when you accuse me of cherry picking definitions " It's true. You literally cherry picked definitions instead of using the official definitions created by the Vegan Society. "(definitions that are both from Google lmao)" Google "flat earth." I guess that is real now according to your logic.... "and not addressing some of my points while just saying I'm wrong." I did address some of your points. I even quoted you. Still can't find the quote of me claiming that owning a phone means you don't practice veganism? Are you going to hire a team to help you search? 😂 "You are very strange." So you part with an ad hominem because you realize you lost the argument? Thanks again for the easy win I guess.
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  77.  @Indrave_2274  "Not ad hominem, just my honest opinion. I did find your quote, however:" Name calling instead of addressing the argument is an ad hominem attack... Aww....you found a quote and the context is about being "vegan" not practicing "veganism." I maintain the two are different words with different definitions. You can indeed practice veganism while owning a phone. I understand emergency use of a communications device does fall under the doctrine of "veganism." That said, it is made with animal products and does not fall under the definition of "vegan." So owning or using a phone means you're not "vegan." "Individual people aren't vegan because of the asphalt on the roads?" Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or "USE" animal products. This is the official definition of vegan created by the Vegan Society. Asphalt roads are made with animal products and using them means you're using animal products. "That makes no sense under the official definition of vegan by the vegan society, as choosing not to drive isn't necessarily practicable." What doesn't make sense is you're again conflating the words "vegan" and "veganism." The definition of "vegan" has nothing to do with "possible and practicable." "You know, as consistent as you probably appear to yourself, you omitted a part of the official vegan definition when listing it." You're lying again. Vegan and veganism are still different words. "Care to share since you're so good at being honest?" I guess I will cut and paste a previous reply. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. This is the official definition of "vegan" created by the Vegan Society. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose;" This is the official definition of "veganism" created by the Vegan Society. Notice they are different words with different definitions? Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle and is not the definition of a person. Failure or success at practicing veganism doesn't make you vegan. To be vegan you simply must not eat or use animal products. To practice veganism you simply must not use animal products when possible and practicable to avoid them. Try reading slower this time.
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  78.  @Indrave_2274  "Yeah you've definitely got some problems 😂." More ad hominem as expected. "Just understand that people, myself included, will continue to call ourselves vegan because truthfully, these semantics are unproductive." I understand that virtue signaling liars and hypocrites will continue to be virtue signaling liars and hypocrites. "This is because the basic, common-sense definition of a vegan who is someone that doesn't needlessly torture animals for their taste pleasure." And another unofficial definition because you refuse to accept the actual definitions. You're fine using products made with animal products from the same animals that everyone else uses. Using "taste" as an excuse to be a hypocrite is funny. "And that is where the possible and practicable issue comes into play:" Again, that is the veganism doctrine and not the definition of vegan. "You saying vegans don't exist because they don't fit the definition is like saying good people don't exist because they're not perfect exemplifications of what "good" is defined as." I am literally and technically correct. You're free to remain in denial of the facts as it won't change them. Still waiting for that quote. "You did say owning a phone means someone doesn't practice veganism because they contain animal-derived materials - just in another comment." Keep looking. Maybe one day you will find it. You could ask your parents for help. Anything else? Are you going to continue using fan fiction to justify your intentional and needless use of animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid? It baffles me that you people think replying to me or making inane comments is a necessity of life.
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  79.  @Indrave_2274  "I like how you think definitions translate into how the real world could work." Okay... "It's ironic that you're just objectively wrong about how people could conduct themselves with regards to veganism, as if your idea of someone following the ethical principle of veganism (possible and practicable) to a tee would not be the shittiest experience ever. " I see... So you justify your denial and hypocrisy because convenience and entertainment is more important than simply being honest. "Remember, well-being is one of the major variables when considering what is vegan and what is not." You continue to justify using animal products for convenience and entertainment. "So in conclusion, if you value well-being, then yes, unnecessary things like replying to you do culminate into something that can be called necessity." You would have never seen this comment if you weren't using animal products needlessly in the first place. So you were justifying your own hypocrisy before you ever found me to reply to. "We simply could not function on an individual, let alone societal level if everyone tried to employ your "definition" ideology." Sure we could. You virtue signaling liars and hypocrites think you have to lie and be hypocrites to help animals for some reason. It's entirely possible to help animals without lying about being vegan or lying about practicing veganism. It turns out "not lying" is harder than just being honest. "I encourage you to think about how your life would be if you tried to follow your own advice. " I already do. I don't lie and practice hypocrisy to virtue signal to strangers on the internet. " Meaning, anything that is technically not a necessity is off-limits;" I never lied about being vegan or pretended to practice veganism so these things don't apply to me. "But I suppose anything that's not a definition is just "babble" lmao." You're free to derail this to ethics and morals as long as we stop talking about liars and hypocrites like yourself. "Nothing you have said thus far holds any significance in reality." You're confusing the facts I used with your own personal fan fiction. Simply put. You're not vegan if you eat or use animal products. That doesn't mean that reducing your personal use of animal products is a bad thing. You're not practicing veganism if you use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid. That doesn't mean that reducing your personal use of animal products is a bad thing. Anything else? Just more inane babble and justifications for being a liar and a hypocrite?
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  80.  @Indrave_2274  "Lol it's sad you think people like me are virtue signaling just because we aren't as ornery as you about your definitions." That's not true at all. You're virtue signaling by claiming to be things you're not. "I think you may be narcissistic?" I don't meet the criteria. "It would certainly explain why you think definitions are significant but people's actions aren't" When peoples actions are in direct conflict with their claims it is significant. Telling others they should stop doing things while continuing to do the same things yourself is hypocrisy. "Us "lying" is just not really caring about the stupid things you care about." Like I said. You prefer to lie about being what you are and what you believe rather than just being honest. "We use our time actually doing productive things and not reading the Merriam-Webster." I am using the definition created by the Vegan Society...not Merriam-Webster. Your continuing deflection of that basic fact is the most telling of all. "Crazy to thing this whole debacle was just about you thinking everyone should have the same irrational concerns that you do." Crazy to thing huh? I don't think (or thing) everyone should or shouldn't do anything. I am just pointing out the lying and the hypocrisy. It's isn't my fault you people continue believing you must lie. Again, nothing new. Just a bunch of inane babble that doesn't refute anything I have stated or the facts.
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  81.  @Indrave_2274  Another load of babble. Your opinions don't refute the facts that I laid out. You should look up the difference between facts and opinions.
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  82.  @markraymond7235  Can't answer the question? I accept your admission.
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  83.  @markraymond7235  What an incredibly evasive and predictable reply. Thanks for your admission.
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  84. @Preston W "You're not vegan" Beat me to it. You're not vegan either. "I can't fathom why someone adhering to a philosophy about reducing harm would say "LOL, to each their own" when it comes to murdering animals." Can't murder livestock. Murder is uniquely human. No one adheres to the veganism doctrine. You're the perfect example of a hypocrite and liar that pretends to be vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You use animal products. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." You use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid. You're not vegan and you don't practice veganism. You're just a typical liar and hypocrite that pretends to be vegan for attention. You automatically lose any rebuttal by being the liar and hypocrite you are.
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  85. That's odd. They are currently taking reservations. They are even looking to hire a full time line cook.
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  86. "I’m vegan because I won’t kill an animal unless it’s life or death" You're not vegan. "I hope that we evolve passed animals suffering as part of human culture." We won't anytime soon.
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  87.  @keeganreddy3126  "please think before you type..." Advice you should follow. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. I don't care about your dogs or cats. I am typing about you personally. "I understand that there are people like you who would not do the same." So you're making assumptions based on what? Try again...maybe without the assumptions.
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  88.  @keeganreddy3126  "Thanks for confirming my stance as a vegan as I do not use any animal products for myself." Aww...got you. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and/or contain animal products that you use every time you comment. You're literally using animal products to reply to a stranger. I made no assumptions. You seem to be uneducated on the subject. Try again.
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  89.  @keeganreddy3126  Okay? Saying good day doesn't mean you're immune from being proven a liar. You're a liar that pretends to be vegan.
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  90. They were actually asked about their stance on the subject and one of the girls screamed out pro-choice and then the organizer started telling people not to talk to the person recording.
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  91. Extortion...
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  92.  @ironicstocktrader3993  "your a complete idiot lol." I don't possess a complete idiot. Are you offering? Learn the difference between you're and your. "you really have no idea how hard i work i use NOTHING from animals" You use electronics. I win.
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  93.  @clarenceclarence9529  "Food with a victim is not food we should be mass producing." So you think we should harvest plants by hand? You do know that combines, tillers, rakes, plows, etc etc all kill animals and destroy their homes right? Why is a cow worth so much more than a mouse? Aren't they both equally animals?
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  94. Yet not a single person on the planet exists without using animal products in some way regardless of poverty level.
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  95. Seems like you're doing a lot of reaching. We all use animal products here. No need to be so judgmental.
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  96.  @mushshrap6471  They are just a bunch of virtue signaling liars and hypocrites. No one with a bit of intelligence respects animal activists lying about being vegan.
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  97. I am glad he pointed out their hypocrisy. They whine and complain about how he cuts up a deer but have no problems with the businesses across the street that are much larger. People claiming to be vegan are fine using animal products cut from dead animals while whining at normal people for doing the same thing.
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  98.  @mushshrap6471  You're not vegan. You use animal products. I win.
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  99. Livestock can't be murdered. Are you stupid by accident or is it a choice?
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  100. The funny thing is Hitler was more vegan than people now given that smart phones, computers, refrigerators, microwaves, routers, servers, vehicles, televisions, etc... are all now made with animal products that people today that claim to be vegan use without a care. How crazy is it that the a guy in the top 10 of genocidal maniacs was more vegan than the random virtue signaling hypocrites showing up at some restaurant (when there is a butcher shop across the street)?
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  101. It's not that it is forgotten. It is that some people don't believe in fanfiction written for weak people.
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  102.  @kevinstarrider1258  "Compassion is strength if you can educate yourself on how the slaughterhouse process works and continue to eat flesh you have ice water in your veins" So you're admitting to not having strength? You use products made with parts from the same dead animals. Why do you think you're somehow morally superior? "True hunting isn’t as brutal no torture and suffering or chemicals and it’s a clean kill but humans are not designed to eat flesh key word humans" So you know little about "true hunting"? Often the animals are mortally wounded but not incapacitated. So they run in fear and bleed out in the process. Is that how you want to go? If not then why? Sounds likes torture to me.
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  103. You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment. Your sarcasm is hilarious.
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  104. "Murder" is illegal and uniquely human. Livestock are not human. You're appealing to emotions and making things up.
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  105. "I am vegan, and yes, meat is murder." A lie with more lies tacked on. You're not vegan. Livestock can't be murdered. Murder is uniquely human. You're just another virtue signaling liar and hypocrite. Why do you use animal products while lying about being vegan?
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  106. Watch the full episode.
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  107. To be vegan for 6.5 years it would mean you didn't eat or use animal products. We all know you did use animal products.
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  108. you're* whiny* You should learn how to spell simple words before you worry about insulting other people.
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  109. Murder is uniquely human and illegal. It is legal to slaughter livestock and they aren't human. No need to lie.
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  110. Murder is uniquely human. Can't murder livestock or wild animals, only humans.
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  111. "To the poeple that cauae suffering" poeple and cauae aren't words. Why are you so quick to kill people like yourself? You're okay with using the parts of dead animals for needless things. Why are you so against other people doing the same thing?
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  112.  @markraymond7235  "She, unfortunately, doesn't understand that vegans and vegetarians aren't perfect and that" So you don't know the definition of vegan? Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. It's not about perfection. It's about deriving more worth from the claim than the actual practice. Here you go. Prove your hypocrisy again. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while acting like you're against it?
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  113.  @markraymond7235  Not by definition. Still can't answer the question?
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  114.  @markraymond7235  Thanks for admitting to using animal products intentionally and needlessly. You are a moral hypocrite. hypocrisy - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform. You claim to be against animal exploitation while actively and intentionally using products produced with animal suffering.
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  115.  @markraymond7235  You claim you do what you can to avoid them while contradicting yourself by replying to me on an entertainment site made with animal products. You continue to prove me right. Try again.
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  116.  @markraymond7235  There are no vegans on the internet so I have no idea why your making things up. Still evading the question?
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  117. Because protesting in front of nondescript labs doesn't give them the virtue signaling attention they are craving.
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  118. They wouldn't care because they only care about perception. They derive more worth from the claim than the actual practice.
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  119. "I really like the vegan message" Lie about being vegan and be a massive hypocrite? " I was a vegan for 4 years," You were never vegan. I guess this is why you like the vegan message. You enjoy lying.
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  120.  @shadowilderness364  "Haha! here comes the vituous vegan who likes to feel they are above everyone else," vituous? That isn't a word. I never said I am vegan. I am not vegan. Do you always make things up and play pretend? "and pretend that they have never eaten or tasted animal products before." I eat animal products daily. Where are you getting your information? "New flash "you were never vegan". I was exactly like you before. A lot of vitue signaling. A lot of anger and hatred. A lot of ego." vitue? Are you okay? I never claimed to be vegan. I have no hatred. I just point out hypocrites and liars. Do you have an extra chromosome? How does your lie make me a liar in the same thing? Anything else or just more assumptions and lies?
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  121.  @shadowilderness364  "well, then you previous comment has no worth" Then you? That doesn't make much sense. You should apologize for lying.
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  122.  @shadowilderness364  Trolling because I told the truth? Do you think facts are trolling? Do you have an extra chromosome? You were never vegan. You lied.
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  123.  @shadowilderness364  "Oh, and the fact that you are not me, and don't know me; you can't really say that I was never vegan." Sure I can. Vegans don't exist by definition in the modern world. Smart phones, computers, routers, servers, refrigerators, microwaves, asphalt roads, electrical wires, carpet, drywall, television, vehicles, etc contain and/or are made with animal products. You were never vegan. "I know what I ate." Being on a vegan (adjective) diet and being vegan (noun) are two different things. Well now we know why you are confused. You were claiming to be something you're not because you're ignorant. "I know what I myself experienced on a daily basis." So do I. You experienced the use of animal products daily. Thanks for the easy win. You should stop lying to strangers.
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  124.  @shadowilderness364  "congratulations," Just another day. You liars pretending to be vegan are easy to call out. "blah blah blah" More inane garbage. Thanks again for the easy win. Try to stop being a liar.
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  125.  @shadowilderness364  🤣
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  126.  @shadowilderness364  Thanks again. Are you so upset you lost that you can't help but comment more emojis using your animals product laden electronics? Even after losing you're continuing to demonstrate your hypocrisy.
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  127.  @shadowilderness364  Still mad I proved you're a liar?
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  128.  @shadowilderness364  "nah, not mad, because you didn't prove anything" I did, so you lied again. That must also mean you're mad. "other than you being just another person wanting to feel superior in a comment section🤭" Compared to you? Not hard at all. Your first comment was a lie and you just spiraled from there. "Gurl, bye & keep on trippin😂" You will reply again. You liars are predictable.
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  129.  @bobbyb4024  So you think liars and hypocrites pretending to be vegan so they can virtue signal is a struggle? If you really think that you're* a moron.
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  130.  @bobbyb4024  People claiming to be vegan are liars. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. If you eat or use animal products you're not vegan. Simply making a comment on a webpage proves their not vegan. People pushing the veganism agenda are hypocrites. They intentionally and needlessly use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid by simply making comments on websites. Glad you understand now.
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  131. Imagine claiming to be vegan when there is no such thing.
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  132. Ed has already been thoroughly debunked and proven to be a liar. He pretends to be vegan for subs, donations, and likes.
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  133. You're not vegan though. Stop claiming to be something you're provably not.
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  134.  @willdavidson8971  I didn't ask a question. I have no idea how you think that is a question. It is a fact. You're not vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person that does not eat or use animal products. You use animal products every time you comment. I guess you didn't know animal products exist in electronics.You're also a liar because you claimed you didn't use animal byproducts....
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  135.  @willdavidson8971  Refined tallow (cow/pig fat) is used in LCD screens, plastic (anti-slip agent), metal (anti corrosive agent). Gelatin (boiled skin, tendons, ligaments, and/or bones) is used as a coating in the lithium ion batteries. Bone char is used to the filtration process for making the glass screens. If you use a cell phone, refrigerator, asphalt roads, microwave, router, desktop, personal/private transportation, dry wall, glass windows, carpet, electricity, lap top, and/or internet, etc etc etc (millions of other products) you are using animal products. These products are not hidden. They are simply convenient so no one does the research. Do you honestly believe that all of these hypocrite liars will stop using their electronics to stop vitue signaling like you did on videos on the internet? LOL Every single person claiming to be a vegan activist is a hypocrite and liar. They all use animal products. Even their laminated signs have animal products in them. Anyone claiming to be vegan is a liar. Congrats on accepting facts instead of falling back on excuses and justifications. Its a long way from statements like this "Get over yourself; we tolerant and accepting vegans do exist, you don’t have to be one of them." - dip
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  136. @Ivan I prefer Barbeque or Taco.
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  137. You're the same species. LOL Good to see you have no expectations for yourself.
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  138. You use animal products just like everyone else.
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  139.  @stephencane6653  "I haven't eaten or wore any animal for 17 years." I didn't say you did either of those things. "I just told you that!" And I just told you that you "USE" animal products just like everyone else. The words "eat" and "wear" do not exist in any way in my original reply to you. Why do you needlessly use animal products? I know you either won't answer, you will deny, or you will justify your use of animal products with a doctrine.
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  140.  @stephencane6653  As predicted you didn't answer. "oh you are one of them kind of people oh dear. OK so what animal products do I use that does have an alternative." You use fat, gelatin and bones. I answered your question.... Now answer the question if you can. Why do you needlessly use animal products? I know you either won't answer, you will deny, or you will justify your use of animal products with a doctrine.
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  141.  @stephencane6653  I knew you wouldn't answer. "i only use thing that are essential to me living that don't have an alternative to animal." Except you are literally here on youtube servers replying to a stranger. Explain how replying to me is essential to living....LOL "You are very angry." Have proof of this accusation? Of course you don't. You're one of "them kind of people" who get anger about facts so you project your anger on others. "All I said was that I don't eat or wear animal but I don't care if other people do" And all I said is "You use animal products just like everyone else." "You seem like a right dick." And the name calling begins. Yay.
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  142.  @stephencane6653  Just more name calling. "I have no time for people like you." Your several comments prove differently. "My first comment still stands!" Stands as proof of your lies. You edited your comment because I called you out for your lies!!!! "I don't mind people choosing what they want to do.!" Neither do I. I also don't lie about what I am like you do.
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  143.  @stephencane6653  "what are you talking about? I haven't lied!" The proof is above. You claimed to be vegan while intentionally and needlessly using animal products. "Why are you so angry?" I'm not angry at all. I enjoy pointing out liars and hypocrites like yourself. "Why are you bothered that I don't eat or wear animal?" I'm not. You use animal products. That's a fact. "What is happening in your life to make you like this?" Nothing bad at all. Like I said, I enjoy pointing out liars and hypocrites like yourself. You literally use animal products every time you make a comment. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with the same dead animals that the food and clothes you don't use are made out of. Anything else you want to lie about?
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  144.  @stephencane6653  "I have no time for people like you." You're replying a lot for someone that claimed they had no time for me. "OK. So you are completely wrong." Nah. You're backpedaling. "How does that feel that you just embarrassed yourself online in front of everyone." I haven't. "I never said I was vegan." B-b-but you said: "I've been a veggie for 17years. No animal to eat or wear for 17years." Which is just another word for vegan. And you said: "Those crazy vegans are not speak for all vegans just their nut job group!!!!" So yes, you said you are vegan. "You come across angry, you are so quick to try and catch people out that you just embarrass yourself!" You come across as triggered because you were factually outed as a liar. You're so quick to backpedal you didn't read your first comment. "Wow you really are one of those people everyone says about." Yep, I out liars and hypocrites like yourself. "I haven't lied about anything but you are still a dick!" You just lied about not lying, And more name calling as expected.
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  145.  @stephencane6653  "I have no time for people like you." You're replying a lot for someone that claimed they had no time for me. Two replies? Having trouble keeping your thoughts together on your diet? Forget that you claimed you had no time for me? "i have not lied everyone else can see but you can't!" Proof is above. You lied. Thanks for your concession.
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  146.  @stephencane6653  "I have no time for people like you." You're replying a lot for someone that claimed they had no time for me. Two replies? Having trouble keeping your thoughts together on your diet? Forget that you claimed you had no time for me? "i have not lied everyone else can see but you can't!" Proof is above. You lied. Thanks for your concession.
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  147.  @stephencane6653  "i am replying because" Because you lied about not having time for me. Thanks for proving yourself a liar and a hypocrite. Your concession is accepted.
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  148.  @stephencane6653  You have lied. I am still factually correct. You're projecting your pettiness by name calling because you can't refute me. Thanks for the win and your concession.
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  149.  @stephencane6653  And more name calling because I can't be refuted. "i still haven't lied," You said you were done with me three different times and yet here you are still replying. Proven liar. Thanks again for the win and your concession.
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  150.  @stephencane6653  And just more name calling as expected. You lied. You practiced hypocrisy. You haven't refuted me. You still can't answer a simple question. You literally use animal products from the same dead animals that everyone else uses. You have said literally nothing to refute any of the facts. You just keep name calling and whining that I am mean. At this point I am just responding to notifications from a liar and a hypocrite that claimed they were done replying to me multiple times.
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  151.  @stephencane6653  your? Learn the difference between your and you're. Learn to spell. Remember, you have replied more than I have. "i still haven't lied" You claimed you were done replying to me 3 times. You literally use animal products that aren't essential to you every time you reply. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with animal products. Youtube is not essential to living. It is an entertainment company. And more name calling as expected. Reply again liar. At this point I am just responding to notifications from a liar and a hypocrite that claimed they were done replying to me multiple times.
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  152.  @stephencane6653  Remember, you have replied more than I have. "i still haven't lied" You claimed you were done replying to me 3 times. You literally use animal products that aren't essential to you every time you reply. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with animal products. Youtube is not essential to living. It is an entertainment company. And more name calling as expected. Reply again liar. At this point I am just responding to notifications from a liar and a hypocrite that claimed they were done replying to me multiple times.
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  153.  @mushshrap6471  The number of vegans grew by 0. To be vegan you can't eat or use animal products. Everyone currently living on the planet eats and/or uses animal products. Let's use you as an example. You happily use animal products any time you feel like it needlessly.
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  154.  @mushshrap6471  Eating imaginary food isn't cannibalism.
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  155. Murder is uniquely human. It does not apply to livestock or wild animals.
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  156. Murder is uniquely human by definition. Livestock can't be murdered. There is a difference between having compassion and being a virtue signaling liar and hypocrite.
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  157. Wannabe vegan Paul Obojski name calling Joe Rogan, what a hypocrite.
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  158. Why do you support violence and murder? You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat. Why is it okay for you but everyone else is doing something bad? Why do you think being a liar and a hypocrite is morally superior to being normal? You do know "murder" is uniquely human and not something that can be done to livestock right? Public school has failed you.
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  159. murder - the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. Livestock aren't human.
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  160. You're not vegan. No need to lie.
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  161.  @margaretpanama9116  That is a lie. You're not vegan. You use animal products needlessly and intentionally.
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  162. You're making things up. "Murder" is illegal and uniquely human.
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  163.  @bigt4490  Cool story. Still impossible to "murder" non-human animals.
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  164.  @bigt4490  Cool story, still impossible. It's illegal and uniquely human. This isn't an opinion. It a fact.
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  165.  @bigt4490  Actually it is. The official definition even confirms it. Thanks for proving your dishonesty. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  166.  @bigt4490  Thanks for agreeing I am right again. someone - an unknown or unspecified person; some person. "someone" is uniquely human as well. I win again. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  167. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while making such claims?
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  168.  @harpalgill5935  "I’m not using anything from animals" Remember you typed that. Animal based stearic acid (livestock tallow) and animal based activated carbon (livestock bones) are the industry standard in processor manufacturing. How did you reply without using something with a processor? Smoke signals? Denial and dishonesty is not an answer. I accept your concession.
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  169.  @harpalgill5935  You claimed you didn't use animal products and I proved you did. I told you to remember... "I’m not using anything from animals" You do. You were dishonest. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  170.  @harpalgill5935  Good to see you still can't refute me. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  171. You use products made with the same dead animals. Why do you use animal products needlessly while claiming it's unnecessary? I know you won't answer this plainly and honestly, but I just want everyone else to see your hypocrisy.
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  172.  @jackmichaelpeter  Sure I have. You just choose to ignore it in favor of your narrative. Do you need a phone? Most likely. Do you need to be making comments on youtube? No. Youtube's servers are made with and contain animal products. You're justifying using animal products that are easily avoided and not a necessity at all because you need a phone for work. That's no different than using your phone to order a meat lovers pizza and some chicken wings.....because "phone." So basically you're proving your hypocrisy by claiming it's okay to use whatever animal products you want as long as your phone connects to it..... I already explained this to you. I think I used too many big words last time. I probably did this time as well. Anyway...thanks for confirming you're a hypocrite again. Your concession is accepted.
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  173.  @jackmichaelpeter  Yeah....I'm not going to respond to comment spam. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. Making comments on an entertainment platform is needless no matter how you want to spin it for your narrative. You keep mentioning "potential gelatin" while ignoring the fat and bones. Very typical of you liars and disingenuous hypocrites. You pick one thing apart while ignoring the rest. Bones are the industry standard for purifying mechanical grade silicon. You can shove your "potential gelatine" up your monologuing ignorant ass. You are literally a hypocrite. All of your appeals to emotion can be used to lambast someone else that disagrees with you. Your concession is accepted.
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  174.  @jackmichaelpeter  You have already been proven disingenuous and a hypocrite. There is nothing left for me to prove. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. You use appeals to emotion by comparing human slavery to livestock farming. You use products made with the same dead animals everyone else uses. Even after I explained point number 4 to you no less than 3 times, you still attack strawmen. Its over. You lose. Go to google > Type "define needless" > Push search. It's not rocket science. This will be your canned reply. Your concession is accepted.
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  175.  @Indrave_2274  "Also notice how you don't need to do these things to live a vegan lifestyle." You're making things up again. "You're just painting vegans as pompous, cushy elitists when that's about as true as the sentiment that only asain people have brown eyes." Vegans don't exist in the modern world. There is no such word in the English dictionary as "asain." It is quite possible for a mythical people to have a certain color eyes. Elves can have purple eyes. "so you're vegan if you cut out the unnecessary suffering from your current lifestyle." Thanks again for agreeing with me that vegans don't exist. No one cuts out unnecessary suffering from their lifestyle so no one is vegan. "Hell, this could technically mean simply eating less meat " Nah... Vegan (noun) - a person who does not EAT or USE animal products. Less meat = not vegan. No meat + animal products = not vegan. You = not vegan. You're just a virtue signaling liar and hypocrite pushing an agenda you don't even follow yourself. Practice what you preach.
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  176.  @Indrave_2274  "Do you eat meat or animal products?" You already claimed I "eat" meat in another comment. Prove it. It's hilarious that you have to make things up just to argue against me and when you get caught in a lie you resort to going to another comment to question me about the lie you already told.
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  177.  @Indrave_2274  "Sure, you can argue that." I did. "However, you haven't answered my question." You haven't proven your claim. You're a liar.
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  178.  @Indrave_2274  "Yeah, well, I assumed you eat meat because you're kind of a useless tool." You are a proven liar so now you're admitting to your lies while name calling. "Now, are you going to answer my question of whether or not you eat meat or animal products?" That is my business. You made the claim that I do. So it is up to you to prove it. Good luck with that. "If not, I will take that as a concession." You already lost when you admitted to being a liar. "That would be the easiest win of them all" I already won. I predict you will reply again with another inane comment.
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  179.  @Indrave_2274  Glad you admit that you're a liar, hypocrite, and you virtue signal for attention. The ultimate win. When all I do is pointing out virtue signaling liars and hypocrites, it's nice having one of them admit to being the trash they are.
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  180.  @Indrave_2274  "I'm trash? How so?" Because you admit to being trash by admitting you're a virtue signaling liar and hypocrite. I won. Everything after this is just you devolving into whining about me calling you trash for being an admitted virtue signaling liar and hypocrite.
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  181.  @Indrave_2274  "For one to be a virtue signaler, one needs to fit the definition of what it is to virtue signal." virtue signaling - the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue. You do that. "Likewise, for one to be a hypocrite, one needs to fit the definition of what a hypocrite is." the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; You do this as well. "However, the term "trash" is different." trash (noun) - a person or people regarded as being of very low social standing. Liars and hypocrites are at the lowest of social standings. "But, of course, you wouldn't want to get into morality with me haha." Virtue signaling again while you use animal products. You automatically lose. Thanks again for the easy win. I predict yet another inane reply.
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  182.  @Indrave_2274  Two replies? Triggered? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? Just as I expected. You decided to go with inane comments. Why don't you tell us all about "asains" with brown eyes, whatever that means.
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  183.  @Indrave_2274  "You're avoiding argument and have nothing to add but ad-hominem lol." You're lying again. You're derailing the original argument because you lost. Quote the ad hominem. You should probably look up the definition. "Thanks for the easy win. Nothing but babble, as expected." Fake it until you make it? Still not going to tell us what a "asain" is?
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  184. You use animal products just like everyone else. I guess it is only wrong for everyone except you?
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  185. 0% Vegans.... No need for you to lie. You're not vegan. You use animal products. Why do you use animal products while lying about being vegan?
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  186.  @ameensh2439  Proof of? Be more specific. Use your words. Maybe ask a parent for help.
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  187.  @ameensh2439  Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Everyone currently living on the planet eats and/or uses animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with fat, gelatin, and/or bones. Simply making a comment on youtube proves you're not vegan. Now instead of derailing or babbling about doctrines....answer the question. Why do you use animal products while lying about being vegan?
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  188.  @ameensh2439  "I havent disrespected you for you to keep making harsh comments." Lying and making things up is disrespectful. You should stop disrespecting people if you don't want them to disrespect you. "Anyway, do you know what the definition of veganism is?" I know exactly what the definition is and I know it is not the definition of "vegan" which is a different word. "So yes I am vegan in that sense." In the sense that you're making things up? You're being disrespectful again. You needlessly use animal products. You're not vegan. You needlessly use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid. You don't practice veganism. Now stop being disrespectful and answer the question. Why do you use animal products while lying about being vegan?
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  189.  @ameensh2439  "First of all, I am free to say whatever I believe in whether its true or false." And I am free to think you're being disrespectful when you aren't truthful. "Second, if I did lie or if you think I'm lying that technically isnt disrespectful, because you're assuming that in lying." Lying to people is disrespectful. I am not assuming. I am stating fact. "And again its freedom of speech." Freedom of speech is not freedom from being called out for lying. "Moreover, you are being offensive to me directly and thats different to someone lying especially as an assumption." Calling my facts "assumption" is disrespectful. "Moving on, you didnt answer me so whats the definition of veganism and vegan?" I knew you were going to babble about a doctrine... You still haven't answered my first question... It's very odd that you're upset that I didn't answer your inane questions while you are intentionally evading mine. "After you answer this question, we can take it from there, so we make sure we have the same understanding before we move on." I use the definitions created by the Vegan Society. Now that you don't have any more excuses. Why do you use animal products while lying about being vegan?
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  190.  @ameensh2439  Nah, it's your turn. Answer the question or concede. Why do you use animal products while lying about being vegan?
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  191.  @ameensh2439  "You haven't even answered mine for it to be my turn." I asked first and gave you the definitions I used. Answer or concede.
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  192.  @ameensh2439  4 months later and you still can't come up with an answer. I accept your concession.
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  193.  @ameensh2439  "If you see this differently and you still continue on disrespecting me." You have been disrespecting me since the beginning with your lies and hypocrisy. You're also a hypocrite when it comes to answering questions. You whine about me not answering you while you still haven't answered the very first question in my very first comment. I answered several of your questions.....such a hypocrite. Looks like you're coming up with several excuses to be done. "If you're disrespectful blah blah (sensitive man baby whining) blah." Thanks for the win and your concession.
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  194. The restaurant location and name are in the first 25 seconds of the video...
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  195. Not true at all. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. If you searched what animal products were used in you would know that 0% of India is vegan.
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  196. Hitler was vegetarian. His SS wore leather overcoats and leather boots. One would think a vegan would be able to notice something like that.
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  197. They did in the full video.
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  198. Murder is uniquely human and illegal. Livestock slaughter is legal and they aren't human.
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  199. His business profited from that display. You say triggered, I say advertising.
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  200.  @parthmudgal9270  You fell into the trap. The majority of livestock feed is inedible to humans and is grown for human consumption. Unless you actually believe the cows, pigs, and chickens enjoy eating and drinking ethanol, soybean oil, palm oil, beer, biodiesel, plastic, etc...
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  201.  @parthmudgal9270  The one you seem to think we live in. The majority of livestock feed is inedible to humans and are byproducts of those industries. The majority of agriculture isn't for feed. It's for humans. The animals get the byproducts, overstock, contaminated, grass, etc.
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  202.  @parthmudgal9270  The FAO. Sorry I used an actual Government Agency with stats backed by actual data instead of some college kid's research paper. Anything else?
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  203. I see you graduated from Tarded college with a bachelors in babble.
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  204.  @mushshrap6471  Did you see the full video and the interviews with the activists? They were literally asked if they supported abortion and many of them said yes.
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  205. Just laugh at them for showing their IQ. Murder is illegal and uniquely human.
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  206.  @Indrave_2274  Can't believe anything you type. You're a proven liar and hypocrite. You claim to be vegan while blatantly using animal products. You're just the same as the rest of them. Ignorant virtue signaling liars and hypocrites.
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  207.  @Indrave_2274  I do? Prove it. If you can't prove that I "eat" meat then you admit to being a liar. Thanks for the easy win.
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  208.  @Indrave_2274  So you can't read either...wow. The quotes are around "eat." Try again dippy. Edit: Now this idiot is asking me if I eat meat in a different comment.
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  209. No one hates on vegans. Everyone dislikes virtue signaling hypocrites.
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  210.  @Ghazithasoulja  "None of them are vegan?!" No. They use animal products. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. "I guess then it's a strange title to have that says ...Vegan Protestors." So when I find a title about flat Earth that means it's magically real....because it says so in the title? 😂🤣 "You're saying your benefit is worth more than its life." So does everyone living in the modern world. We all use animal products for our own convenience and entertainment. You, me, everyone.
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  211.  @Ghazithasoulja  Still triggered and full of it I see. "Also, asphalt is the distillate of petroleum or petroleum-based byproducts." So you didn't know cattle/pig animal fat is used to keep the asphalt from sticking to the mixing surface? Cool. You could have just admitted to being ignorant. "Not sure why routers and phones would need animal products because they aren't known for their conductivity or for their heat resistance." So you didn't know mechanical grade silicon is purified using bones? You didn't know glass is purified with bones? You didn't know refined fat was used to make the plastic less brittle? You didn't know lithium batteries used gelatin because it is non-conductive? Admit your ignorance instead of playing the assumption game. "Trying to insult me isn't going to give credence to your poor arguments." Says the person being sexist and condescending. Didn't you call me "sweetheart" in one of your replies? "u" and "ur" aren't words. Learn to spell and try again.
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  212.  @Ghazithasoulja  Still having trouble keeping your thoughts together I see. All I see is ur and sweetheart and more babble because you can't spell like an adult. Try again.
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  213.  @Ghazithasoulja  Your ad hominem about my maturity is ironic since you're the one that is being sexist and spelling like a child. Thanks for the win.
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  214.  @user-ye9bc7nw2c  So just name calling because you're mad that I am right or mad you can't refute me?
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  215.  @user-ye9bc7nw2c  Thanks for proving you can't refute the facts. Anything else? More inane babble?
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  216.  @user-ye9bc7nw2c  Thanks for proving you can't refute me. I win.
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  217. "Im vegan" No one asked... "but I hate telling people i am" And yet you did it in the first two words.
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  218. Can't murder livestock. If you believe so strongly that killing animals is wrong then why do you use products of their slaughter?
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  219.  @bluelagoon5  "Are you high?" Nope, just educated. murder - the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. Livestock aren't human. "I don't use products of their slaughter." And you're a liar. Two for two. Stupid and a liar. You use animal products every time you comment. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are all made with and/or contain animal products. Try again dippy.
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  220.  @carterhoward2827  You're a liar. You're not vegan. You use animal products needlessly.
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  221.  @carterhoward2827  What did you not understand? Is your diet causing you to have reading comprehension problems?
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  222.  @carterhoward2827  You're legit a liar. You literally use animal products intentionally and needlessly. You're literally not vegan. Continuing to lie doesn't make it a fact.
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  223.  @carterhoward2827  The fact that you're intentionally and needlessly using animal products. I would think a liar claiming to be vegan would have done research on what it means to be vegan. I guess I was wrong again. You people just like to virtue signal. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and/or contain animal products. You are literally using animal products every time you comment. Thanks for the easy win.
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  224.  @carterhoward2827  I guess you learned something new. The silence is deafening. 😂😃🤣
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  225.  @shadowcolorado3668  They usually end up eating their own. We will see.
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  226. murder - the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. Livestock aren't human.
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  227.  @XEN-ZOMBIE  You're wrong though. Murder is uniquely human. It's the difference between an animals instinct and a humans premeditation. I cared enough to reply and you cared enough to defend your ignorance. "If all human's died. The earth would be better off." No one is stopping you.
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  228.  @XEN-ZOMBIE  "Involuntary manslaughter for example or negligent homicide." manslaughter - the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder. It's literally in the name. MAN. homicide - the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another; murder. Livestock is not a person. Homicide is a synonym for murder. "So, no, your wrong." you're* Learn to spell. You're still wrong. "Not sure why I need to explain any of this." You should do some of those simple google searches before you make things up. " Maybe you just want to fight rather than understand or learn anything." That's exactly what you're doing. Instead of learning you're fighting. I win the argument. Thanks for trying I guess.
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  229.  @XEN-ZOMBIE  Three comments? Unable to keep your thoughts together? "Because we are animals." Yep, and human which the definitions apply. "Also, you came onto youtube video to defend the killing of animals by arguing definitions." Nope, just pointing out your mistake and lies. Thanks again for the win. Have any more babble or denial?
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  230.  @XEN-ZOMBIE  Three more comments? Must be that brain fog I heard about. "Why do you act like a dick rather than have a discussion?" I have no reason to be nice to liars and people that make up fan fiction on the spot. "If your only focus is with winning your missing the point." This doesn't make sense. Learn to spell. "And we can solve it by removing killing from the equation as much as we can." Why are you using animal products made with the same dead animals while pushing a narrative? That seems hypocritical to me. Just more babble, goalpost moving, and lies. You lose again.
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  231.  @XEN-ZOMBIE  "Yeah I broke it up because i know you love it." Nah. We both know you can't concentrate on your defense. "English isnt my first language," Not my problem. And more ad hominem name calling because you lost. Very typical of you liars. I figured you would be incapable of answering the question. Why are you using animal products made with the same dead animals while pushing a narrative? I win again. You're a liar.
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  232.  Ivara Skathi  Why are you criticizing someone for something you do yourself? "What I communicate is not propaganda, it is moral consistency. " This is a blatant lie. Why are you such a hypocrite?
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  233.  Ivara Skathi  "So while I AM technically a hypocrite" Ahh so you admit to justifying the deaths of the same animals that people eat when you use their flesh for entertainment. I get it. You are the textbook definition of a hypocrite. "The difference between vegans and non-vegans is that non-vegans take this to an extreme" The difference is vegans don't exist. "they unnecessarily torture and kill animals for taste pleasure." And you do it for entertainment. "Do you see no problem with this?" Nope. "Are you really going to call me a hypocrite rather than acknowledging the blatant immorality of eating meat?" Yep. You are a hypocrite. You criticize others for the deaths of the same animals you're happy to use for entertainment. Anything else or are you going to babble more about your justifications for being a hypocrite?
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  234.  Ivara Skathi  "Entertainment?" Yes. Youtube is for entertainment. You are here for your own reasons to be a hypocrite. "Where are you getting this idea lmao" From the facts. "you think I go the the circus or something? You're the clown here you absolute joke." Straw man, red herring, and ad hominem. "Keep projecting, Janie." I don't need to project anything. You already admitted to being a hypocrite. "So while I AM technically a hypocrite" "The only one babbling here is you." Now you're projecting. "If you see nothing wrong with killing animals solely for taste pleasure, you may be a psychopath." Another straw man. I didn't say that. Anything else or just more babble, hypocrisy, and insults because you can't refute me?
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  235.  Ivara Skathi  I get it. You were outed as a hypocrite and proven wrong in the same comment thread you were being condescending and now you're upset. Maybe apologize to @fetanyl patch and myself instead of being such a loser.
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  236.  Ivara Skathi  So nothing else? Either you decided to finally practice what you preach and stop using youtube routers and servers (made with animal products) needlessly or you realized you aren't intelligent enough to debate this topic since you started it out by being a hypocrite.
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  237.  Ivara Skathi  "Oh, still here?" Janie Swanson 1 day ago Yeah I replied to your post before this and you ran away then. "Either way, you clearly have no idea what veganism is, so I'll leave you with this:" You can't refute me so you leave an irrelevant video and run away. LOL Vegan (noun) is a word that describes a person. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. This is the definition that the Vegan Society petitioned Oxford University for placement in their reference. Every living person on the planet currently eats and/or uses animal products. Veganism is a doctrine that describes a lifestyle. "The word veganism shall mean the doctrine that man should live without exploiting animals." - Leslie Cross founding member of the vegan society and author of "Veganism Defined." This is the doctrine that they later made to describe a life style of avoiding animal products when possible and practicable. There is no one that actually does this because convenience, hobbies, fun, and entertainment is always more important than possible and practicable. You prove this every time you reply to me using animal products that are easily avoided. Replying to me using your electronics is not a necessity of life. "Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of and cruelty to animals for food, clothing and any other purpose." Notice the definition of veganism does not include the word "person" or "vegan" in any form? This is because veganism is not the definition of vegan nor is failing at practicing veganism. "way of living" = lifestyle "exclude, as far as is possible and practicable" - This includes convenience, hobbies, fun, entertainment, and replying to people on youtube. "all forms" - Does "all forms" mean "all forms" in your country? Maybe it just means "everything except what is inconvenient." "any other purpose" - smart phones, routers, computers, servers, refrigerators, microwaves, asphalt roads, carpet, drywall, televisions, etc.....and millions more items long. If it is not a necessity for life then using it means you don't practice the doctrine of veganism. Thanks for the easy win. You people always prove me right.
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  238.  Ivara Skathi  Since you can't debunk me you throw out a "vegan gains" red herring. Thanks again for the easy win.
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  239.  Ivara Skathi  Another derailing comment that doesn't debunk anything I said. "I can throw all the logic and facts I want at you, but I know your type - you think you're in the right no matter what." How could you know that? You haven't thrown any facts at me and your logic is hypocritical logical fallacies. Appeals to emotion and appeals to popularity. "It's charming in a sad way how you're committed to your logical fallacies" Says the person preaching hypocrisy and spouting fallacy after fallacy. "I would just be wasting my time." You do that every time you pretend to be vegan to shove your hypocritical morals at someone. "Just know that it makes you a horrible person if you continue to do so after knowing they feel pain. What I communicate is not propaganda, it is moral consistency." Remember this? This is you using animal products to make a comment using routers and servers needlessly. This is you being a massive hypocrite. Not only have I won you have now implied your own defeat. Thanks again. You make it easy when you're a hypocrite.
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  240.  @zeflixy9814  "your criticizing someone for something you disagree with" What do you think I disagree with?
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  241.  @zeflixy9814  "your criticizing someone for something you disagree with" you're* Learn to spell. Prove I disagree with what I am criticizing them for. Not much of a fact when you spell like a 5 year old.
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  242.  @zeflixy9814  So you can't prove your accusation? Anything else?
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  243.  @zeflixy9814  Four replies? Are you okay? Unable to keep your thoughts together? "read your replies narcissist" More name calling without proof. "I’m not the one apart of a cult so keep hating because I’m eating a burger rn" This doesn't make sense. Did you really mean "apart" instead of "a part"? Enjoy your burger. "I’m finna finish eating McDonald’s" Okay? "no it just pointless to argue with someone who obviously is narcissist and stupid" So you can't prove your accusation? Thanks for the win I guess.
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  244.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  "victom" is not a word. It is actually. They have doctrines. They try to convert others. They suppress skepticism. They delegitimize former members. They rely on shaming others. They resort to clichés and nonsense instead of engaging in factual arguments. They pretend to be morally superior. All signs of religion and a cult.
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  245.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  Good to see you can't refute me. I accept your concession.
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  246.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  You use animal products from the same animals that I and everyone else uses. I don't know why you think you don't. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  247.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  You literally use animal products needlessly so you do support the slaughter even if it is unknowingly. Good to see you still have nothing to refute me. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  248.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  Thanks for admitting you use animal products needlessly for entertainment because it's "pretty hart." Whatever that means... I accept your ongoing concession because you just proved your dishonesty.
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  249.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  You think replying to me is required for survival? LOL Thanks again for proving you are in denial and justify not practicing what you preach with nonsense justifications. Thanks for the win and your final concession since you still haven't even refuted me.
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  250.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  You're not making sense. Ask a kid to help you spell. Good to see you still have nothing to refute me. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  251.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  Name calling is not an argument. Another easy win for me. Make an argument instead of spelling like a kid and name calling. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  252.  @richardbaumkuschler3265  " I didn't call you names" You called me a bot. Thanks for proving your dishonesty. Since you have proven your dishonesty you also automatically admit defeat. Thanks for the easy win and your final concession.
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  253.  @citydogband  "ur saying not a single person is vegan?" ur? Are you 8? Name one living person that doesn't eat or use animal products. Just one. Good luck with that. "Have about u stop being pretentious and belittling a positive lifestyle?" u? Yeah...8 year old confirmed. You're making things up. I only belittled liars and hypocrites pretending to be vegan. "Are u vegan?" u? Again? Public school is failing you. I am not vegan. I eat and/or use animal products just like everyone else.
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  254.  @citydogband  So still can't refute me? Cool, I win. Funny that you think I am a Trump supporter just because I am using facts you don't like.
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  255.  @citydogband  You're* Learn to spell. You're the one saying not a single person on Earth is vegan. I simply asked you to name one. You haven't. I guess you can't. You lose. Try again. Maybe try leaving all of the insults out of this since you're so bad at them.
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  256.  @citydogband  So you're just ignorant. That's okay. I understand. You didn't know smart phones, computers, routers, servers, refrigerators, microwaves, asphalt, carpet, drywall, etc.. are all made with and/or contain animal products. Specifically fat, gelatin, and bones. All of those people you named do in fact use animal products. Thanks for the win. Get educated.
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  257.  @citydogband  Still can't refute anything I said? You're also calling me fat? I only weigh 45kgs. As usual, a triggered liar can't refute anything and resorts to insults because facts hurt their feelings. I win.
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  258.  @citydogband  What does your age have to do with it? What is a "9n earth"? u? Are you mad that you can't refute facts? Is that why you're name calling? You're the one that claimed no one on Earth is vegan. I am simply asking you to name one person that is vegan and you can't do it. Try again.
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  259.  @citydogband  "I never said no one on earth is vegan I was quoting you." So you don't know how a quote works either? Public school has failed you. Give me an exact quote from this thread. Good luck with that liar. And more crying and name calling because you're mad. I expect as much. "Please get a life thousands of people are vegan as best as they realistically can be." So no one? You still can't name a single person that doesn't eat or use animal products. I guess that's why you're so mad. You're realizing that you lied and instead of just owning that fact now you're just backpedaling and getting defensive. Thanks again for the easy win. If you can't refute me then I win. If you can't name a single living person that doesn't eat or use animal products, I win. Good luck. Try to calm down.
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  260.  @travisswartz3587  Is there a reason you said my name twice? Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are not on that list. He uses some of those in each reply and they are made with animal products from the same dead animals that normal people eat.
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  261.  @travisswartz3587  "I couldnt find any either, though the list was very long and I didnt check all of it." I did. "If a vegan was put in charge they would likely make those changes." Can't put a vegan in charge. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Everyone eats and/or uses animal products. "You didnt answer my question though" I will paste it again since you missed it the first time. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are not on that list. He uses some of those in each reply and they are made with animal products from the same dead animals that normal people eat. "Vegans don't run things in the world so they can't control all of this." Sigh... Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Everyone eats and/or uses animal products. "if vegans could control how all products are made, would they eliminate animal product from everything?" If the nonexistent had control would they do a thing they can't do because they don't exist? Ask me about unicorns and fire breathing dragons next. "I think they are morally consistent in their belief where I would say yes." You think nonexistent humans are morally consistent? Okay....sure. If you eat or use animal products, you're not vegan. If you eat or use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid, you don't practice veganism. Let's use you as an example. Replying to me using all of the hardware, cables, etc. is possible and practicable to avoid by simply not replying at all with your made up babble and fan fiction. Anything else?
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  262.  @travisswartz3587  "The idea of veganism is people who actively try to avoid using animal products" Do you often make things up when you don't know and try to pass it off as fact? "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." It is possible and practicable to stop replying to strangers with made up fan fiction. "You said he willingly does it when it can easily be avoided, what products do you know of?" Already listed above. Do you have a hard time with reading comprehension? Is that why you decided to start making things up? Get caught up with the facts and do some research. I am not your teacher. Ask your parents for help if you need it.
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  263. ​ @travisswartz3587  So nothing to say? Just a bunch of "if" this and "if" that? Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Eating or using animal products means you're not vegan. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." Eating or using animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid means you don't practice veganism. Anything else?
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  264.  @travisswartz3587  "The definition of veganism you quoted is spot on and we agree." Then you agree with me on everything. It is possible and practicable to avoid replying to me. I win. "Overall I'm not really sure what your position towards vegans are" I don't have a position towards people that don't exist. I hold the same position on unicorns and fire breathing dragons. Apparently you didn't read. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Eating or using animal products means you're not vegan. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." Eating or using animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid means you don't practice veganism. Try again. Use facts next time.
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  265.  @travisswartz3587  Two replies? Triggered? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? "A key point in that." It's "possible and practicable" to stop replying to me. Just debunked your first reply. "I don't believe telling people not to use" I didn't tell anyone to stop using anything. I am simply stating that by definition of "vegan" eating or using animal products means you're not vegan. It seems you're conflating the definitions of "vegan" and "veganism" to arrive at a made up narrative. To be vegan you can't eat or use animal products. To practice veganism you can't eat or use animal products that are "possible and practicable" to avoid. What are you not understanding?
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  266.  @travisswartz3587  "I didnt say you told people to stop using anything." Okay. "I don't believe telling people not to use refrigerators, asphalt, carpet, wood, computers, pretty much every day material we can't avoid would be considered practicable." "I also mentioned I wasn't vegan, just added that second reply because I thought of it afterward." I know you're not vegan. "Vegan and veganism is the same thing." Please cite the official source that states that. Good luck finding that. "The things you listed seem very unlikely to avoid in almost every society." Replying to me is very unlikely to avoid? LOL "You're focused too much on semantics here," Ah yes. The typical holdout for people who don't like facts. Vegan is a word that describes a person. Veganism is a word that describes a doctrine. They are not the same thing. Try again. Stop making things up.
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  267.  @travisswartz3587  "The definition describes things that are possible and practicable to avoid" You're confusing the definitions again. " the things you mentioned would be pretty much impossible to avoid if you wanted to be apart of society in any way." Using animal products means you're not vegan. Using products that are "possible and practicable" to avoid means you aren't practicing veganism. "You mentioned my diet so I don't know what you would be talking about if you didn't think I was a vegan." I know you're not vegan. No one is vegan. Everyone currently living in the modern world uses animal products. "I really shouldn't have to explain to you that there is no difference in vegan and veganism" B-b-but, "yes one is a person and one is an ideology" So you agree with me. You're never going to get anywhere with me. Vegan and veganism are different words with different definitions. They are not the same thing. Anything else?
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  268.  @travisswartz3587  "No I don't see anything you have written I agree with." Scroll up and read what has been said slower. "I really shouldn't have to explain to you that there is no difference in vegan and veganism" B-b-but, "yes one is a person and one is an ideology" So you agree with me. Read this again. "Like I said, these things aren't practicable and possible to avoid" Is it your extra chromosome or lack of medication that is preventing you from understanding? You're conflating two different words with two different definitions instead of reading what I am telling you. You're NOT vegan if you eat or use animal products. PERIOD. THOSE THINGS I LISTED ARE NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE AND PRACTICABLE TO AVOID. THEY ARE EXAMPLES OF WHAT PEOPLE USE THAT MAKE THEM NOT VEGAN. VEGANISM IS A DIFFERENT DEFINITION. USING ANIMAL PRODUCTS THAT ARE POSSIBLE AND PRACTICABLE TO AVOID MEANS YOU DON'T PRACTICE VEGANISM. ANIMAL PRODUCTS IN SMART PHONES, COMPUTERS, ROUTERS, AND SERVERS ARE POSSIBLE AND PRACTICABLE TO AVOID FOR THE PURPOSE OF REPLYING TO STRANGERS. It's like you're stupid on purpose. Every time you reply I know it's going to be some stupid babble conflating two different definitions to purposely misunderstand what I typed. Try again.
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  269.  @travisswartz3587  "if you are a vegan," No one is. "which tries to avoid animal products as much as possible." "possible and practicable" you liar. You're just going in circles. Scroll up and read again.
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  270.  @travisswartz3587  You're going around in circles. I am simply explaining facts. All those things I listed contain animal products. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You're not vegan if you eat or use animal products. PERIOD. Eating or using animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid means you're not practicing veganism. That only includes the things listed "IF" they are possible and practicable to avoid. Not all of them are. Using any of them to make comments on youtube is possible and practicable to avoid. PERIOD. Maybe you will get it the 10th time. Maybe ask a parent for help. Anything else of substance or just more constant disingenuous circular inane questions?
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  271.  @travisswartz3587  "you said vegans dont even exist, now you're saying you cant be one if you respond on Youtube." You're lying again. You're still conflating the definitions. All those things I listed contain animal products. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You're not vegan if you eat or use animal products. PERIOD. Eating or using animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid means you're not practicing veganism. That only includes the things listed "IF" they are possible and practicable to avoid. Not all of them are. Using any of them to make comments on youtube is possible and practicable to avoid. PERIOD.
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  272.  @travisswartz3587  "I won't respond any longer but you're just not making sense." You're reading comprehension is the problem "Unfortunately you won't listen to me" Because you lie. If you stopped lying and making things up I would have. "so show somebody else this and ask them if you are making a good point, I promise you aren't." I have been doing this for years, Earthling Ed even said I made a good point and now he points out that he isn't really vegan. Anything else? Oh right you're done because I won't appease you with your lies.
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  273.  @travisswartz3587  "I won't respond any longer" I expected you to lie again. "you ignored multiple things I've said" Because you're not making sense. "and simply stated the same the same definition over and over again in almost every reply." Because you were using the same circular babble over and over. "These aren't good debate tactics." Circular arguments aren't good at all. Stop using them. "I still don't understand what you think is practicable and possible to avoid" Replying to me on youtube is possible and practicable to avoid as I have stated 10+ times. "I dont understand why you think being a vegan and practicing veganism is drastically different." Already explained multiple times. Yay another circle. You're still conflating the definitions. All those things I listed contain animal products. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You're not vegan if you eat or use animal products. PERIOD. Eating or using animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid means you're not practicing veganism. That only includes the things listed "IF" they are possible and practicable to avoid. Not all of them are. Using any of them to make comments on youtube is possible and practicable to avoid. PERIOD. "You're not explaining your argument well." You're reading comprehension is the problem. Ask a parent for help. Now reply again despite claiming you're done....liar.
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  274.  @travisswartz3587  "I won't respond any longer" And the lies never end. "Ok so which products are possible to avoid, just the phones?" I already covered this. You're just proving me right about your poor reading comprehension. When making a comment you're using a device (which is made with and contains animal products), routers (which are made with and contain animal products), and servers (which are made with and contain animal products) that would have never been used if there was never a reply. Seriously ask a parent for help. You're just asking more of the same that has already been addressed.
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  275. ​ @travisswartz3587  You replied again liar. You're being contrarian just to argue and you're now a proven liar. I never said anything like that. You're still conflating two different words. Anything else?
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  276.  @travisswartz3587  "Yes Janie I replied again, can we move past that?" Just admit that you're a liar....which you are. "You said somethings cannot be avoided but that this can be" The word vegan (noun) covers any and everything made with or containing animal products. If you eat or use animal products you're not vegan. Read this until you understand. Seriously. I know you just read it, so now read it again. Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle of avoiding animal products when possible and practicable. Regardless of whether something is possible or practicable to avoid, if it contains animal products, you're not vegan. Read this again as well. It is possible to stop replying to me on youtube which uses personal devices, routers, and servers across the country/world. Watching a movie is possible and practicable to avoid. Traveling to a restaurant is possible and practicable to avoid. Get this in your head. If you use products made with animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid you're not practicing veganism. Whether or not you're attempting to practice veganism, if you eat or use animal products you're not vegan. I explained it several different ways this time. Maybe you will understand one of them. I doubt it. Anything else.
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  277.  @travisswartz3587  More ad hominems. Yay. As expected you can't refute me, you continue to lie, and now you're name calling as well. Thanks again for the win.
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  278.  @travisswartz3587  Still can't refute me? Just going to keep babbling? I have already explained all of this to you and you personally choose to continue conflating two different words and definitions. I will try to make it simple because apparently that is all you can handle. Vegan and veganism are different words with different definitions made by the vegan society. You're not vegan if you eat or use animal products. You don't practice veganism if you eat or use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid. Failure or success at practicing veganism does not make you vegan. If you think any of this is wrong, you're free to cite the source from the vegan society proving me wrong. As you haven't cited a single source (nor is one to be found) you're free to continue lying and making things up which is rude. "This is the first time I've insulted you," Telling someone they are wrong when they are only using facts while you continually cite opinions and fan fiction is an insult. You have been insulting me this entire time. Okay...I win.
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  279.  @michaellarue8645  Three comments? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? So you can't refute me and resort to insults and babble just like the last person? Anything else?
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  280.  @leahflower9924  Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Smart phones, computers, routers, servers, asphalt, refrigerators, microwaves, televisions, etc. are all made with and contain fat, gelatin, and bones. None of the people claiming to be vegan are actually vegan. They are just hypocrites playing pretend because they chose a fad they thought gave them virtue.
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  281. You're not vegan.
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  282.  @shadejustcant  Vegan (noun) - a person that does not eat or use animal products. Just by commenting with your electronic device (made with animal products) on the internet (made with animal products) on youtube servers (made with animal products) you prove you're not vegan. You prove you're a liar. Congrats on proving yourself a liar I guess.
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  283. Nothing wrong with mocking virtue signaling hypocrites and liars. More people should do things like this.
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  284. ​ @Ghazithasoulja  Nothing wrong with mocking virtue signaling hypocrites and liars. More people should do things like this.
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  285.  @Ghazithasoulja  I also learned how to spell.
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  286.  @mckgarth  Okay?
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  287.  @robotec0007  "so you report me for what?" For telling me to give you my address so you can commit home invasion and animal abuse. "killing an animal is perfectly fine and you shouldn't care less." Do you just make things up for fun?
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  288. You're* Why are you so mad Joe insults people that lie about being vegan? They are all liars and hypocrites and you're mad that someone is pointing that out? Who hurt you?
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  289. You want a guy to fight another guy 10 years younger to prove what? That he is 10 years younger? How many extra chromosomes do you have?
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  290.  @philedwards5110  What do these things have to do with anything? None of the people you have named are vegan.
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  291. You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment. You're not vegan. People like you contribute to why people claiming to be vegan look bad.
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  292.  @sharshal465  Smart phones, computers, and servers are made with animal products. Fat, gelatin, and bones are used in the production of the electronics you used to make that comment. Thanks for proving me right.
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  293.  @sharshal465  So you resort to name calling when proven wrong? I expected as much. You use animal products while claiming it is against your religion. Thanks for proving me right.
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  294. None of them are vegan. Everyone uses animal products in the modern world. You, me, everyone. There are better ways to make a change than lying about what you are.
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  295.  @Kanzu999  "Then you misunderstand what a vegan is." Then you misunderstand what a vegan is. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You use animal products. You're not vegan. "A vegan is someone who's trying to do the least amount of harm as possible. " And here is proof of your misunderstanding. You're conflating the word vegan (noun) with the veganism doctrine. Vegan (noun) is a word that describes a person. Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle of avoiding animal products when possible and practicable. It is possible and practicable not to use routers and servers made with animal products to make inane replies on youtube. "I haven't been vegan for more than 3 months right now," You have never been vegan. "but I also haven't bought animal products besides food either," And yet here you are using animal products needlessly just to make comments. "and I will keep on trying to be aware of what I buy." While justifying what you use for convenience and entertainment. Anything else?
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  296.  @Kanzu999  It would mean you're not a liar if that were the case.
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  297.  @Kanzu999  "So what word would you use to describe my position?" Liar that pretends to be vegan. "If I am trying my best to not buy animal products?" Neither of the definitions mention buying them. "If you want to say that someone can't be vegan if they happen to buy an animal product once every month" I never said that. I am going by the definition instead of placing additional words in a definition. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Notice it says nothing about "buy, buying, purchase, etc..." "What do you think?" I think people are just people. A small percentage of people are indoctrinated by grifters on youtube like Vegan Gains, Earthling Ed, and Joey Carbstrong to believe the lies they tell them. No need to lie about what you are to reduce harm. Simply reduce harm if that is what you want to do. You don't need to lie about your identity while doing it.
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  298.  @Kanzu999  "Lol where is the lying?" I will quote you. "Okay I'm vegan" "It's you who's trying to define my position and therefore calling me a liar." Because you lied. That is after all what a liar is. "The ones who call themselves vegan don't use the definition you do." Not my problem if people want to use a definition that isn't the official definition. "It's stupid to imagine that you have to go by such an iron definition, where you're not vegan if you happen to use an animal product, even if you're not doing so 99.9% of the time." 99.9% is an extreme made up statistic. Every time you reply you are using animal products intentionally and needlessly. If you use animal products so blatantly just to reply to a stranger then it is highly likely you use them for other things. You probably have a refrigerator that is made with animal products currently running 100% of the time in your home for example. "As far as I can see, you just want to provoke people who call themselves vegan." I just like pointing out liars and hypocrites. If you want to be vegan then be vegan. I am all for people not lying anymore. "It's incredibly childish and unhelpful to call someone a liar in a conversation before you even know them and before you even know what they mean by the words they use." It's incredibly childish and unhelpful to lie about being vegan when you use animal products intentionally and needlessly every day. " It's important to establish how we define the words we use in a serious conversation." Seems more like a "you" problem. Maybe do more research so you're not ignorant of the official words. "So really you're not worth my time." Yet here you are replying again. Again, you don't have to lie about being vegan to reduce harm. Let that sink in. Maybe you could have a parent read it slowly to you.
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  299. So you want to use an appeal to emotions to equate eating food with human slavery? LOL
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  300.  @LoowheezeBreeze  "I'd argue animal agriculture is worse than human slavery..." Okay...then why do you use animal products needlessly if you're against it?
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  301.  @LoowheezeBreeze  I used facts. You literally use animal products needlessly and you act like you're against it. I simply asked why. It's okay. You don't have to answer. Your evasion shows more than whatever lie you would come up with. I accept your concession.
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  302.  @LoowheezeBreeze  Look at you asking questions while evading mine. I will show you how to answer a question directly and honestly. "Which animal products would that be?" You use fat, gelatin, and bones. Now answer my question instead of evading and asking more questions. Why do you use animal products needlessly if you're against it?
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  303.  @LoowheezeBreeze  And another question as I expected. You're just evading the question. Thanks for proving you're unable to answer a simple question because it outs you as a hypocrite. I accept your concession.
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  304.  @LoowheezeBreeze  "Attack the messenger, ignore the message..." I addressed the message in my first comment. You're using a logically fallacious argument to appeal to emotions. You then claimed livestock slaughter is worse than human slavery so I simply asked why you use animal products needlessly and you're frozen in your own hypocrisy. Again, thanks for your concession since you continue to evade the simple question.
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  305.  @LoowheezeBreeze  Glad you admit to being a hypocrite.
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  306.  @LoowheezeBreeze  Still nothing to refute my original comment?
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  307. If they actually felt that way they wouldn't be such hypocrites about it. I mean, why is it okay for them to use animal products from the same animals that normal people eat while extorting businesses?
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  308.  @jacobbridges5143  Their not vegan. You're lying or ignorant. Smart phones, computers, televisions, routers, servers, refrigerators, microwaves, vehicles, carpet, drywall, etc. are all made with and/or contain fat, gelatin, and/or bones. Everyone currently living in the modern world uses animal products.
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  309.  @jacobbridges5143  Two replies? Triggered? Unable to keep your thoughts together? "lying about what?" They claim they're vegan. They are not. "The definition of being vegan is not using animal products." So you agree that their not vegan. Why reply multiple times if you agree with me? "I don’t think this is so much a me problem as it is a reading comprehension problem on your part" Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. They use animal products so they aren't vegan. This isn't hard to understand. Maybe you should pick up some of that reading comprehension you're babbling about.
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  310.  @jacobbridges5143  And as expected you can't refute me. Thanks for the easy win.
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  311.  @jiimmyyy  Yes you are very cringe. Glad you admit that.
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  312.  @mushshrap6471  To claim you're something that doesn't exist is delusion.
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  313. Neither of them are vegan.
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  314. Do you have a problem with them extorting him and threatening his business when there are other businesses close by that use factory farmed meat? Just more virtue signaling.
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  315. "I am a vegan" You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. You're not vegan.
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  316.  @jiimmyyy  You want him to meet a burden of proof for his opinion? I really hate people claiming to be vegan too. They are just a bunch of virtue signaling hypocrites.
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  317.  @cdabcdefg12345  You do know that vegan and veganism are different words with different definitions right? Let me help you. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. If you eat or use animal products you're not vegan. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." If you use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid then you don't practice veganism. You replied to me using routers and servers that are possible and practicable to avoid so you don't practice veganism. Failing or succeeding at practicing the doctrine of veganism doesn't make you vegan. The rest of your babble is just you building strawmen.
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  318.  @cdabcdefg12345  "Doesn't matter what word games you wanna play" You think using the actual official definitions of words created by the Vegan Society is playing word games? LOL "animal exploitation is wrong and avoiding it is the right thing to do." Okay and? I never said it wasn't wrong. I am simply pointing out that lying about being vegan or lying about practicing veganism isn't a requirement to care about animals. " I don't want to make any personal attacks but its hard to believe that you really think your argument invalidates the cause of animal rights or veganism." This is just you attacking a strawman. I never made such an argument. "Your argument may mean that no one is truly a vegan, but what significance does that have?" That people are provably lying. That's it. "That small paradox definitely does not justify killing an animal when it is unnecessary." Attacking another strawman I see. I never argued this or anything like this. You're making things up to argue against. " Would you say that, because it's impossible to eliminate all animal exploitation, making an effort to eliminate nearly all of it is pointless?" No. Would you say that since you completely lost on the facts you decided to make things up to argue against? Typical liar. You not only make up arguments you also make things up to argue against.
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  319.  @cdabcdefg12345  Took you long enough to figure out what I was plainly saying. Not sure why you decided to make so many things up.
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  320.  @bruceree1574  He wants evidence of an opinion. He isn't so bright.
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  321. Vegans don't exist. The super aggressive people pretending to be vegan are some of the dumbest people on the planet.
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  322.  @clarenceclarence9529  Earthling Ed is a liar that pretends to be vegan for subs. He isn't any more vegan than you are. Easily proven.
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  323.  @robert.mechura  More crops are used for human consumption than livestock consumption. No need to make things up.
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  324.  @robert.mechura  "Okay, I think you're a little confused." Nope, you're misunderstanding. More crops are used for human consumption. Consumption isn't just what we eat, it includes everything made with crops that humans use. Plastic, textiles, ethanol, rubber, cigarettes, biodiesel, etc... 70% of the world wide crops are for human consumption. Glad you're caught up.
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  325.  @robert.mechura  You can stand by that all you like...it doesn't make it magically make sense. There isn't enough crop diversity for all humans to stop eating meat. Humans consume more crops than animals. consume - use up (a resource). Besides, if you really cared that much you would be vegan.
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  326.  @robert.mechura  "I think we can agree to disagree." Nah, I will stick with facts as I am an adult. "We're probably just going to keep going in circles." That's just you. I state a fact and you try to argue around it instead of accepting it. "And I really do care and I am vegan." So you're a liar too. You're not vegan. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. Why do all of you virtue signaling hypocrites always lie about being vegan? You know you don't have to lie about being vegan to reduce harm right?
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  327.  @robert.mechura  " woah I’m sorry to offend you." Who said I am offended? Is that your usual stance when a woman uses facts? "Do you mean that no one is truly vegan because everyone has an impact on animals?" Nope. Just going by the definition of "vegan." "You’re right, but I do choose vegan products and I don’t eat animal products (or as close as I can be because I recognize all forms of wide scale farming do kill insects)." Okay? You also use animal products intentionally and needlessly for entertainment and convenience.
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  328.  @robert.mechura  "What are you referring to in your last paragraph?" So you agree that the first two paragraphs are correct... Good, that makes your other questions irrelevant.
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  329.  @robert.mechura  "I know the definition of vegan and I don’t see how I’m violating it" Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You use animal products. No need to lie. "Can you please tell me how I am “using animal products intentionally and needlessly for entertainment and convenience?”" Mostly with your hands I am sure.
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  330.  @robert.mechura  "Can you please explain how I am consuming animal products on a regular basis?" Strawman. I said you use animal products intentionally and needlessly for entertainment and convenience. You then asked how. I answered again. Now you're changing the words for some reason. "What am using that is in violation of veganism?" Now it's veganism? You're not vegan. Vegan and veganism are different words that have different definitions. You really should stop conflating the two. Then I will be specific since you don't do a lot of research into what you're lying about being. A vegan is a person who doesn't eat or use animal products. You use animal products. Specifically you use fat, gelatin, and bones in your electronic device and youtube's routers and servers every time you comment. Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle of avoiding animal products when possible and practicable. It is possible and practicable to stop replying to me using youtube's routers and servers. Now stop making things up and being a liar. Stick with the facts like an adult.
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  331.  @jiimmyyy  You want evidence of an opinion? You're not so bright are you?
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  332. They were actually asked about their stance on the subject and one of the girls screamed out pro-choice and then the organizer started telling people not to talk to the person recording.
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  333.  @markraymond7235  Make sure you include everyone claiming to be vegan in your comment. They all use animal products as well.
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  334.  @markraymond7235  "Like many, you maybe missing the point." Kind of like you're missing my point. "Most vegans" They aren't vegan. "are well aware that it is almost impossible to completely avoid using animal products if you live in modern society." Which contradicts the definition of "vegan." Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. " Car tires, drywall, white sugar, some paint and even asphalt...all contain cow parts, for example." Not to mention smart phones, computers, servers, televisions, etc... "What some of the vegan" They aren't vegan. "(animals rights) folks are trying to do is use as few animal products as possible and advocate for finding non-animal product alternatives to existing products." While making themselves into complete hypocrites by using animal products that are perfectly possible to avoid.
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  335.  @markraymond7235  "Why is that, because a real vegan can't use any animal products in order to qualify under your definition?" It's not my definition. It's the official definition created by the Vegan Society. "Why do you think you're intent on labeling them as hypocrites?" A lot of questions from you.... If you lie, you're a liar. If you practice hypocrisy, you're a hypocrite. They use animal products = they are not vegan. They claim to be against animal suffering while taking part in it = hypocrisy. I am not sure which concept is too hard for you to grasp. Thanks for proving you can't refute me.
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  336.  @markraymond7235  You're free to continue using logical fallacies. You still haven't refuted me. I accept your concession.
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  337.  @markraymond7235  So you're confusing the veganism doctrine which is about a lifestyle with the word vegan which describes a person... At least now I see why you're confused. Youtube's servers are made with animal products and are possible and practicable to avoid. Anyone making a comment here is using animal products needlessly for entertainment. I get it. You're religion was put on the spot and it hurt your feelings. There is nothing you can do about it. You're not vegan and you don't practice veganism with the proof being your own comments. Edit: I went off topic like you. My bad. As far as the people in the video, none of them are vegan or practice veganism. They are all using animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  338. You're not vegan. No need to lie.
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  339.  @shawns4354  You literally use animal products while preaching that other people should not use animal products. You're just a liar and a hypocrite full of your own cognitive dissonance.
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  340.  @shawns4354  Of course you do. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and contain fat, gelatin, and bones. Every time you comment you are using animal products intentionally and needlessly for entertainment.
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  341.  @shawns4354  "I believe you misunderstand veganism." I know exactly what veganism is "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." It is possible and practicable to stop using youtube's servers which are made with animal products and is an entertainment platform. "as far as practically possible." The word "practically" does not exist in the definition of veganism. You're a liar. You continue to prove you're a liar and a hypocrite. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while lying about practicing veganism? I know you won't answer this directly and honestly, but I want others to see your moral hypocrisy. I predict you won't answer the questions, you will go into denial, you will ask which animal products proving you don't do any research, and/or you will use a doctrine as a justification for using animal products needlessly for entertainment.
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  342.  @tbag6600  They aren't really vegan though. They just claim to be for the victim status they crave. They use animal products cut from the same dead animals that meat eaters use.
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  343. People claiming to be vegan are just a bunch of virtue signaling liars and hypocrites. They want in on the oppression Olympics.
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  344.  @jiimmyyy  Again you're asking for evidence for an opinion. Do you have an extra chromosome or do you enjoy being irrelevant?
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  345.  @shawns4354  You must have missed my last comment. Try again. So you can't answer the simple question? "so we agree" Nope. You're lying again. "murder" Murder is uniquely human and is illegal. Livestock are not human and slaughter is legal. You're conflating humans with animals to create an appeal to emotion logical fallacy. I don't care if animals are slaughtered. I am just pointing out your hypocrisy. You use animal products needlessly for entertainment while claiming it is murder (an illegal act). I simply ask you why and you can't answer. You would rather build strawmen about some fictional agreement that only happened in your head. Thanks for the win and your concession based on your inability to use facts or answer a simple question.
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  346.  @shawns4354  So you can't answer a simple question again and have instead decided to appeal to hypocritical authorities who also use animal products needlessly for entertainment? Thanks for continuing to prove you can't refute me. Since you ignored my previous comment again I will paste it for you. Try again. So you can't answer the simple question? "so we agree" Nope. You're lying again. "murder" Murder is uniquely human and is illegal. Livestock are not human and slaughter is legal. You're conflating humans with animals to create an appeal to emotion logical fallacy. I don't care if animals are slaughtered. I am just pointing out your hypocrisy. You use animal products needlessly for entertainment while claiming it is murder (an illegal act). I simply ask you why and you can't answer. You would rather build strawmen about some fictional agreement that only happened in your head. Thanks for the win and your concession based on your inability to use facts or answer a simple question.
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  347.  @shawns4354  "Your ignorant on the matter and your a troll." You're* Learn to spell. It's funny that you're reduced to name calling because you don't like the facts. "You don't understand what veganism and I am not your momma." Sure I do. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." It is possible and practicable to stop using youtube's servers which are made with animal products and is an entertainment platform. I see you didn't answer the simple question again. It's very telling that a simple question has you so triggered you would rather name call than answer. Remember, you're the only who lies about livestock being murdered. You're the one who continues to justify using animal products cut from the same dead animals that everyone uses. Anything else or are you going to stick with your concession based on your inability to refute me, prove me wrong, or spell like an adult?
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  348.  @shawns4354  "Your ignorant on the matter and your a troll." You're* Learn to spell. It's funny that you're reduced to name calling because you don't like the facts. "You don't understand what veganism and I am not your momma." Sure I do. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." It is possible and practicable to stop using youtube's servers which are made with animal products and is an entertainment platform. I see you didn't answer the simple question again. It's very telling that a simple question has you so triggered you would rather name call than answer. Remember, you're the only who lies about livestock being murdered. You're the one who continues to justify using animal products cut from the same dead animals that everyone uses. Anything else or are you going to stick with your concession based on your inability to refute me, prove me wrong, or spell like an adult?
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  349.  @bobbyb4024  "Clarence Kennedy?" Not vegan. He uses animal products. Stop making things up.
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